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HopFan16 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:04 pm
1766 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:41 pm People do things for various reasons but leaving a head coach D1 job to coach a high school team isn't great for the sport.
He paid his dues, he was there for like 17 years. Blame the school and/or conference for the job being no more attractive than an MIAA gig. Or the NCAA for creating a system where this kind of job is often a low-paying dead end. I find it really hard to find any fault with a guy leaving a job after so long for something new, regardless of reason. It's not his responsibility to do what's "great for the sport."
I never placed blame anywhere, but it's just not good for the sport. You don't see this happen in many college sports.

He's free to make any decision he wants for him and his family. I have no issue with that. I suggest you calm down.
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1766 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:07 pm
HopFan16 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:04 pm
1766 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:41 pm People do things for various reasons but leaving a head coach D1 job to coach a high school team isn't great for the sport.
He paid his dues, he was there for like 17 years. Blame the school and/or conference for the job being no more attractive than an MIAA gig. Or the NCAA for creating a system where this kind of job is often a low-paying dead end. I find it really hard to find any fault with a guy leaving a job after so long for something new, regardless of reason. It's not his responsibility to do what's "great for the sport."
I never placed blame anywhere, but it's just not good for the sport. You don't see this happen in many college sports.

He's free to make any decision he wants for him and his family. I have no issue with that. I suggest you calm down.
…calm down? Where’d that come from? We’re just talking here, I didn’t attack you. Very weird thing to say.
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HopFan16 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:04 pm
1766 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:41 pm People do things for various reasons but leaving a head coach D1 job to coach a high school team isn't great for the sport.
He paid his dues, he was there for like 17 years. Blame the school and/or conference for the job being no more attractive than an MIAA gig. Or the NCAA for creating a system where this kind of job is often a low-paying dead end. I find it really hard to find any fault with a guy leaving a job after so long for something new, regardless of reason. It's not his responsibility to do what's "great for the sport."
Man...I saw him in Towson 4 weeks ago at a tournament where he was scouting 2025s. Had a brief chat with him about his success at Marist.

I wonder how much financial trouble Marist is in for him to make this move. That was my first thought when I saw this.

He's a really good coach. What he did at Marist wasn't easy.
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D1 lax is very much the “haves” and “have nots”…
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Gorilla Fan wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:01 pm Pressler did too.
One is not like the other
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Laxbuck wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:30 pm
Gorilla Fan wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:01 pm Pressler did too.
One is not like the other
Long time respected D1 coaches, left to very good high school programs
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Over 120 wins, 3 NCAAs - Wilkinson did all right for a relatively small enrollment DI program.
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Get's to coach with his former college HC and also easy on the family as they don't need to move. The writing was on the wall with this move once Breschi brought Petro in. Unterstein is a great coach who should do well for Duke.
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Wheels wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:35 pm
HopFan16 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:04 pm
1766 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:41 pm People do things for various reasons but leaving a head coach D1 job to coach a high school team isn't great for the sport.
He paid his dues, he was there for like 17 years. Blame the school and/or conference for the job being no more attractive than an MIAA gig. Or the NCAA for creating a system where this kind of job is often a low-paying dead end. I find it really hard to find any fault with a guy leaving a job after so long for something new, regardless of reason. It's not his responsibility to do what's "great for the sport."
Man...I saw him in Towson 4 weeks ago at a tournament where he was scouting 2025s. Had a brief chat with him about his success at Marist.

I wonder how much financial trouble Marist is in for him to make this move. That was my first thought when I saw this.

He's a really good coach. What he did at Marist wasn't easy.
FWIW Fitch recently gave Marist an "AA- stable" rating
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Gorilla Fan wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:55 am
Laxbuck wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:30 pm
Gorilla Fan wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:01 pm Pressler did too.
One is not like the other
Long time respected D1 coaches, left to very good high school programs
.
True
Pressler retiring to Texas. Coaching at HP in large part due to a relationship with a former player who has a son on the team. Has no financial concerns after Duke payout. Wilkinson not yet retirement age.
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Probably not much difference in salary (or higher at in MIAA). Less stress (though more parents and a much more competitive environment than MAAC lacrosse). As someone said, would very extremely odd to see something like this in basketball and pretty much unheard of in football but the lower tier D1 lacrosse is so far removed from the upper that it's not so shocking here. He will be coaching and coaching against vastly better players in the MIAA than the MAAC (younger of course and less physically mature), not have to worry about what is going on in the dorms or NIL nonsense (not that Marist is paying much of that but anyone he recruits under the radar and develops very well may now be bought away elsewhere). He will of course still need to worry about recruiting in general though ;) . Best of luck to him, I would hope that the change will be really fun and fulfilling.
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Wheels wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:35 pm
HopFan16 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:04 pm
1766 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:41 pm People do things for various reasons but leaving a head coach D1 job to coach a high school team isn't great for the sport.
He paid his dues, he was there for like 17 years. Blame the school and/or conference for the job being no more attractive than an MIAA gig. Or the NCAA for creating a system where this kind of job is often a low-paying dead end. I find it really hard to find any fault with a guy leaving a job after so long for something new, regardless of reason. It's not his responsibility to do what's "great for the sport."
Man...I saw him in Towson 4 weeks ago at a tournament where he was scouting 2025s. Had a brief chat with him about his success at Marist.

I wonder how much financial trouble Marist is in for him to make this move. That was my first thought when I saw this.

He's a really good coach. What he did at Marist wasn't easy.
This isn’t a reflection of Marist College or the program at all. Wilks has a young family now and would rather not raise a child in Poughkeepsie, which is understandable. Also, he still has family in the area (Maryland) that can assist with anything if need be. Don’t make this anything more than that because it’s not. Marist will be fine with Scarcello at the helm and the alumni all support him.
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HopFan16 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:08 pm
1766 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 4:07 pm
HopFan16 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:04 pm
1766 wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 2:41 pm People do things for various reasons but leaving a head coach D1 job to coach a high school team isn't great for the sport.
He paid his dues, he was there for like 17 years. Blame the school and/or conference for the job being no more attractive than an MIAA gig. Or the NCAA for creating a system where this kind of job is often a low-paying dead end. I find it really hard to find any fault with a guy leaving a job after so long for something new, regardless of reason. It's not his responsibility to do what's "great for the sport."
I never placed blame anywhere, but it's just not good for the sport. You don't see this happen in many college sports.

He's free to make any decision he wants for him and his family. I have no issue with that. I suggest you calm down.
…calm down? Where’d that come from? We’re just talking here, I didn’t attack you. Very weird thing to say.
It came from you falsifying something I didn’t post. Telling you to calm down was about the nicest thing. I could have said, considering that.

I’ll say again. I don’t fault him for doing what’s best for him and his family and never placed blame on him or anyone else.
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Laxbuck wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:30 pm
Gorilla Fan wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:01 pm Pressler did too.
One is not like the other
Yeah you’re right Coach Wilkinson is 1-0 vs Coach Pressler (2015 NCAA Tournament Play-In Game).
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:lol:
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Shakabrah wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:41 am
Laxbuck wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:30 pm
Gorilla Fan wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:01 pm Pressler did too.
One is not like the other
Yeah you’re right Coach Wilkinson is 1-0 vs Coach Pressler (2015 NCAA Tournament Play-In Game).
Wilkinson is the next HC @severn school from the miaa A
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Laxbuck wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:03 am
Gorilla Fan wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:55 am
Laxbuck wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:30 pm
Gorilla Fan wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:01 pm Pressler did too.
One is not like the other
Long time respected D1 coaches, left to very good high school programs
.
True
Pressler retiring to Texas. Coaching at HP in large part due to a relationship with a former player who has a son on the team. Has no financial concerns after Duke payout. Wilkinson not yet retirement age.
The dook settlement $$ was def a big number, but I distinctly remember reading that Highland Park HS was paying Pressler $500k per year to coach their team. Wish I'd saved that article but can't find it searching online. For those who may doubt that a HS would comp their coach like that, Highland Park is a tiny enclave inside an extremely wealthy area of Dallas. It wouldn't shock me if the parents of HP players could raise that in one afternoon (see SMU's remarkable recent fundraising success).
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Crawley has rounded out his staff with Rutgers assistant Peter Dolan, who will work with the face-off specialists and goalies.

So Crawley’s full staff has Dolan and Alex Ready as assistant coaches and Lintner is the third assistant, per a source.

https://x.com/kevbrown89/status/1812501 ... EO2hFStaxg
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thegman wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 5:56 pm
Laxbuck wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:03 am
Gorilla Fan wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:55 am
Laxbuck wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:30 pm
Gorilla Fan wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 3:01 pm Pressler did too.
One is not like the other
Long time respected D1 coaches, left to very good high school programs
.
True
Pressler retiring to Texas. Coaching at HP in large part due to a relationship with a former player who has a son on the team. Has no financial concerns after Duke payout. Wilkinson not yet retirement age.
The dook settlement $$ was def a big number, but I distinctly remember reading that Highland Park HS was paying Pressler $500k per year to coach their team. Wish I'd saved that article but can't find it searching online. For those who may doubt that a HS would comp their coach like that, Highland Park is a tiny enclave inside an extremely wealthy area of Dallas. It wouldn't shock me if the parents of HP players could raise that in one afternoon (see SMU's remarkable recent fundraising success).
That doesn't sound remotely plausible even at the wealthiest of privates.
That said, it's possible to generate those sorts of earnings through clubs and camps etc, but I think there's no way a private HS is paying that kind of money for a lax coach. Darn good program, though.
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