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oldbartman wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:08 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:00 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:46 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:41 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:20 pm Financing the purchasing of Twitter for $44B compared to paying out a lacrosse coach at Michigan who makes a few hundred grand. The silliness of this board knows no bounds.

It's not silly. He's communicating to you that you are suggesting that UMich doesn't care about finances "because" they blow a ton of money on football. They were just hit with massive budget cuts in 2020, like many schools were.

They don't have a few hundred thousand dollars lying around for non revenue sports that can easily be wasted. What's silly is that you're convinced that they do.

Thank you. Thought the analogy would be obvious. Maybe beacuse Rutgers has been so dumb, profligate and wasteful with money he's projecting it on everyone including actual broadly long term successful athletic departments.

Yet here we are, in the B1G, using teams like Hobart to get our fourth line guys runs. Must hurt to be so fiscally well managed (which I doubt) and still get used as practice dummys.

Stay tuned, new lacrosse stadium coming soon.

FYI, in the preseason scrimmage that has been going on for 4 of the past 5 seasons, Michigan has run starters until Q4 (as has Hobart). They've used a 5th Qtr for the reserves and FYs. Until this years match, the advantage has been to Hobart. Get your facts straight before you bloviate.

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:49 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:47 pm

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:10 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:00 pm

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:45 pm Don't agree with the idea that Michigan is just happy to have a program and doesn't care about winning. There are programs like that but I doubt Michigan is one of them. Do we really think the AD likes playing little brother to Ohio State in a new sport? If so, why even go D1? What was this all for? They don't need the extra tuition.

So why did the AD give Conry a "multi-year" extension?

My opinion is that he's patient, and knows Michigan is a tough sell for elite players, and knows Conry is doing a fine job with the situation he's in. What's your view as to why he did that?

For all the backseat drivers....who's the "can't miss" coach that's better than Conry? You guys have this all pegged, right? So who's guaranteed to beat O State and the other BigTen schools?

BTW----we heard this all before when Paul was coach. That "coaching was the problem". So they went out and got the Asst. for the NCAA champs, who knew how to win and how to recruit. Just like the backseat drivers asked.

Michigan, for so many reasons, is NOT a tough sell for 4* and higher players. Clearly, Paul "hit his ceiling" as to how high he could take the program. Yes, there are many established programs. But Michigan has so many things to offer. And that includes the possible opportunity for players to be a part of making the program, which has serious potential, great. God, I hope the coaches and other people highly associated with the program don't regular hear and see people say that Michigan is a tough sell for top talent. That would only lower their own standards.

Tons of four stars flame out every single year. You have to stop with this and understand the circular and self serving nature of the rating system at some point after many years of the same argument and being wrong.

STILL, to be a consistent big winner in a top conference in any DI College Sport, more often than not, you need to get lots of highly-ranked players. That is just the way it works.

Formerhound wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:19 pm ‘21 and ‘22 classes: 11 4 and 1 5 recruit. Not bad for a school that’s tough to recruit to.

1766 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:00 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:46 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:41 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:20 pm Financing the purchasing of Twitter for $44B compared to paying out a lacrosse coach at Michigan who makes a few hundred grand. The silliness of this board knows no bounds.

It's not silly. He's communicating to you that you are suggesting that UMich doesn't care about finances "because" they blow a ton of money on football. They were just hit with massive budget cuts in 2020, like many schools were.

They don't have a few hundred thousand dollars lying around for non revenue sports that can easily be wasted. What's silly is that you're convinced that they do.

Thank you. Thought the analogy would be obvious. Maybe beacuse Rutgers has been so dumb, profligate and wasteful with money he's projecting it on everyone including actual broadly long term successful athletic departments.

Yet here we are, in the B1G, using teams like Hobart to get our fourth line guys runs. Must hurt to be so fiscally well managed (which I doubt) and still get used as practice dummys.

Stay tuned, new lacrosse stadium coming soon.

oldbartman wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:08 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:00 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:46 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:41 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:20 pm Financing the purchasing of Twitter for $44B compared to paying out a lacrosse coach at Michigan who makes a few hundred grand. The silliness of this board knows no bounds.

It's not silly. He's communicating to you that you are suggesting that UMich doesn't care about finances "because" they blow a ton of money on football. They were just hit with massive budget cuts in 2020, like many schools were.

They don't have a few hundred thousand dollars lying around for non revenue sports that can easily be wasted. What's silly is that you're convinced that they do.

Thank you. Thought the analogy would be obvious. Maybe beacuse Rutgers has been so dumb, profligate and wasteful with money he's projecting it on everyone including actual broadly long term successful athletic departments.

Yet here we are, in the B1G, using teams like Hobart to get our fourth line guys runs. Must hurt to be so fiscally well managed (which I doubt) and still get used as practice dummys.

Stay tuned, new lacrosse stadium coming soon.

FYI, in the preseason scrimmage that has been going on for 4 of the past 5 seasons, Michigan has run starters until Q4 (as has Hobart). They've used a 5th Qtr for the reserves and FYs. Until this years match, the advantage has been to Hobart. Get your facts straight before you bloviate.

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:46 pm Bro what are you talking about all I said was I don't think Michigan is happy to not win lacrosse games. I don't know if he's on his way out or not. But I wouldn't be surprised if they moved on in the next few years. Would you?

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:21 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:00 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:46 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:41 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:20 pm Financing the purchasing of Twitter for $44B compared to paying out a lacrosse coach at Michigan who makes a few hundred grand. The silliness of this board knows no bounds.

It's not silly. He's communicating to you that you are suggesting that UMich doesn't care about finances "because" they blow a ton of money on football. They were just hit with massive budget cuts in 2020, like many schools were.

They don't have a few hundred thousand dollars lying around for non revenue sports that can easily be wasted. What's silly is that you're convinced that they do.

Thank you. Thought the analogy would be obvious. Maybe beacuse Rutgers has been so dumb, profligate and wasteful with money he's projecting it on everyone including actual broadly long term successful athletic departments.

Yet here we are, in the B1G, using teams like Hobart to get our fourth line guys runs. Must hurt to be so fiscally well managed (which I doubt) and still get used as practice dummys.

Stay tuned, new lacrosse stadium coming soon.

You’re awesome. At he in the glory of Rutgers. Life like that eh? I get it given your specious claims and unintelligent fact devoid arguments around these parts.

Classic just like loser programs in the SEC bathing in the glory of their actual winner conference member colleagues.

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:23 pm

oldbartman wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:08 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:00 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:46 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:41 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:20 pm Financing the purchasing of Twitter for $44B compared to paying out a lacrosse coach at Michigan who makes a few hundred grand. The silliness of this board knows no bounds.

It's not silly. He's communicating to you that you are suggesting that UMich doesn't care about finances "because" they blow a ton of money on football. They were just hit with massive budget cuts in 2020, like many schools were.

They don't have a few hundred thousand dollars lying around for non revenue sports that can easily be wasted. What's silly is that you're convinced that they do.

Thank you. Thought the analogy would be obvious. Maybe beacuse Rutgers has been so dumb, profligate and wasteful with money he's projecting it on everyone including actual broadly long term successful athletic departments.

Yet here we are, in the B1G, using teams like Hobart to get our fourth line guys runs. Must hurt to be so fiscally well managed (which I doubt) and still get used as practice dummys.

Stay tuned, new lacrosse stadium coming soon.

FYI, in the preseason scrimmage that has been going on for 4 of the past 5 seasons, Michigan has run starters until Q4 (as has Hobart). They've used a 5th Qtr for the reserves and FYs. Until this years match, the advantage has been to Hobart. Get your facts straight before you bloviate.

That ain’t happening anytime soon.

As a guy I knew once used to tell me, and yet I still get sucked in, “sometimes you just have to let a “female dog term”, be a “female dog term”.

GaitsRightHand wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:35 pm This is Conry's first time EVER being a head coach. I'm not sure who was on the market for a job when they were hiring, but I do feel like he was not ready to be the HC of a BIG10 program. I coached a 4star that visited there, and he said Conry came off as pompous. Had the kid waiting over an hour in his office during a visit. It was so bad that Turri was stressing out and continuously apologizing to the kid and his parents.

I think there's something to be said when your number 1 and 2 assistants explored other options. Turri landed St Johns, and Rogowski almost took the NJIT job. Not mad at Turri for the move but when your Associate HC was willing to take a job at the worst D1 in college lacrosse, I do not take it as a good sign. The VA from last year, Murphy, was promised a seat at the table as a full-time guy, and then Conry never fulfilled those promises. Murphy is now the OC at Vermont. I'd imagine a lot of turnover from your coaching staff is never a good thing. Especially for a team trying to crack a top 20 list.

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:25 pm

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:46 pm Bro what are you talking about all I said was I don't think Michigan is happy to not win lacrosse games. I don't know if he's on his way out or not. But I wouldn't be surprised if they moved on in the next few years. Would you?

I was obviously exaggerating to give you a bit of a hard time for your riffing on how a multi-year contract can somehow means he's on his way out.

I give him ten years. Yes, I think they want to win. It's a brutal conference, and kids pay $20K more per year for the pleasure of attending than any other peer BigTen school. And each year, that tuition squeaks upwards.

Conry just needs to get lucky and strike lightning like Tambroni did with Ament. Get the ball rolling. I think he'll get there. But if he doesn't, UMich will move on.

My point in all of this is------he just inked a contract, time to move on from the " coaching hotseat" nonsense for at least a couple more seasons.

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:25 pm

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:46 pm Bro what are you talking about all I said was I don't think Michigan is happy to not win lacrosse games. I don't know if he's on his way out or not. But I wouldn't be surprised if they moved on in the next few years. Would you?

I was obviously exaggerating to give you a bit of a hard time for your riffing on how a multi-year contract can somehow means he's on his way out.

I give him ten years. Yes, I think they want to win. It's a brutal conference, and kids pay $20K more per year for the pleasure of attending than any other peer BigTen school. And each year, that tuition squeaks upwards.

Conry just needs to get lucky and strike lightning like Tambroni did with Ament. Get the ball rolling. I think he'll get there. But if he doesn't, UMich will move on.

My point in all of this is------he just inked a contract, time to move on from the " coaching hotseat" nonsense for at least a couple more seasons.

gymman1031 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:39 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:25 pm

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:46 pm Bro what are you talking about all I said was I don't think Michigan is happy to not win lacrosse games. I don't know if he's on his way out or not. But I wouldn't be surprised if they moved on in the next few years. Would you?

I was obviously exaggerating to give you a bit of a hard time for your riffing on how a multi-year contract can somehow means he's on his way out.

I give him ten years. Yes, I think they want to win. It's a brutal conference, and kids pay $20K more per year for the pleasure of attending than any other peer BigTen school. And each year, that tuition squeaks upwards.

Conry just needs to get lucky and strike lightning like Tambroni did with Ament. Get the ball rolling. I think he'll get there. But if he doesn't, UMich will move on.

My point in all of this is------he just inked a contract, time to move on from the " coaching hotseat" nonsense for at least a couple more seasons.

While we don't always agree, I agree with most of what you just said here. That would mean four more years. I continue to hope he gets it done. Hopefully, what we saw against UVA is more of a sign of what is to come for Michigan Lacrosse in the near-future than what we saw against Marquette.

CU77 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:53 pm My guess is that Conry's "multi-year contract" is for 3 years (if it was 5 they would have said so), and that the AD will be looking for a new coach if things don't get better by then. How much better they will need to get is unclear.

1766 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:26 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:21 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:00 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:46 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:41 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:20 pm Financing the purchasing of Twitter for $44B compared to paying out a lacrosse coach at Michigan who makes a few hundred grand. The silliness of this board knows no bounds.

It's not silly. He's communicating to you that you are suggesting that UMich doesn't care about finances "because" they blow a ton of money on football. They were just hit with massive budget cuts in 2020, like many schools were.

They don't have a few hundred thousand dollars lying around for non revenue sports that can easily be wasted. What's silly is that you're convinced that they do.

Thank you. Thought the analogy would be obvious. Maybe beacuse Rutgers has been so dumb, profligate and wasteful with money he's projecting it on everyone including actual broadly long term successful athletic departments.

Yet here we are, in the B1G, using teams like Hobart to get our fourth line guys runs. Must hurt to be so fiscally well managed (which I doubt) and still get used as practice dummys.

Stay tuned, new lacrosse stadium coming soon.

You’re awesome. At he in the glory of Rutgers. Life like that eh? I get it given your specious claims and unintelligent fact devoid arguments around these parts.

Classic just like loser programs in the SEC bathing in the glory of their actual winner conference member colleagues.

Unintelligent? We were in the Final Four last year. Hobart hasn't been there since they were D3, which maybe you should consider. D1 ain't it.

oldbartman wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:04 am

1766 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:26 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:21 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:00 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:46 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:41 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:20 pm Financing the purchasing of Twitter for $44B compared to paying out a lacrosse coach at Michigan who makes a few hundred grand. The silliness of this board knows no bounds.

It's not silly. He's communicating to you that you are suggesting that UMich doesn't care about finances "because" they blow a ton of money on football. They were just hit with massive budget cuts in 2020, like many schools were.

They don't have a few hundred thousand dollars lying around for non revenue sports that can easily be wasted. What's silly is that you're convinced that they do.

Thank you. Thought the analogy would be obvious. Maybe beacuse Rutgers has been so dumb, profligate and wasteful with money he's projecting it on everyone including actual broadly long term successful athletic departments.

Yet here we are, in the B1G, using teams like Hobart to get our fourth line guys runs. Must hurt to be so fiscally well managed (which I doubt) and still get used as practice dummys.

Stay tuned, new lacrosse stadium coming soon.

You’re awesome. At he in the glory of Rutgers. Life like that eh? I get it given your specious claims and unintelligent fact devoid arguments around these parts.

Classic just like loser programs in the SEC bathing in the glory of their actual winner conference member colleagues.

Unintelligent? We were in the Final Four last year. Hobart hasn't been there since they were D3, which maybe you should consider. D1 ain't it.

1766 How long has Rutgers been a full funded program? At least a decade? Probably a bit longer. Your team made the NCAA playoffs in 2021. That was first time since 2004, correct? Hobart will finally be able to offer athletic scholarships for the 2023 class. 3 for the '23, 6 for the '24s, 9 for the '25s and the full 12.6 for the '26 class. So yap to me about how great they've been as a fully funded program for well over a decade..

oldbartman wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:04 am

1766 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:26 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:21 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:00 pm

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:46 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:41 pm

1766 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:20 pm Financing the purchasing of Twitter for $44B compared to paying out a lacrosse coach at Michigan who makes a few hundred grand. The silliness of this board knows no bounds.

It's not silly. He's communicating to you that you are suggesting that UMich doesn't care about finances "because" they blow a ton of money on football. They were just hit with massive budget cuts in 2020, like many schools were.

They don't have a few hundred thousand dollars lying around for non revenue sports that can easily be wasted. What's silly is that you're convinced that they do.

Thank you. Thought the analogy would be obvious. Maybe beacuse Rutgers has been so dumb, profligate and wasteful with money he's projecting it on everyone including actual broadly long term successful athletic departments.

Yet here we are, in the B1G, using teams like Hobart to get our fourth line guys runs. Must hurt to be so fiscally well managed (which I doubt) and still get used as practice dummys.

Stay tuned, new lacrosse stadium coming soon.

You’re awesome. At he in the glory of Rutgers. Life like that eh? I get it given your specious claims and unintelligent fact devoid arguments around these parts.

Classic just like loser programs in the SEC bathing in the glory of their actual winner conference member colleagues.

Unintelligent? We were in the Final Four last year. Hobart hasn't been there since they were D3, which maybe you should consider. D1 ain't it.

1766 How long has Rutgers been a full funded program? At least a decade? Probably a bit longer. Your team made the NCAA playoffs in 2021. That was first time since 2004, correct? Hobart will finally be able to offer athletic scholarships for the 2023 class. 3 for the '23, 6 for the '24s, 9 for the '25s and the full 12.6 for the '26 class. So yap to me about how great they've been as a fully funded program for well over a decade..

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:31 pm
So now Conry's not a good head coach/recruiter. Okay. We all have opinions.

So who's your choice for coach?

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:36 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:25 pm

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:46 pm Bro what are you talking about all I said was I don't think Michigan is happy to not win lacrosse games. I don't know if he's on his way out or not. But I wouldn't be surprised if they moved on in the next few years. Would you?

I was obviously exaggerating to give you a bit of a hard time for your riffing on how a multi-year contract can somehow means he's on his way out.

I give him ten years. Yes, I think they want to win. It's a brutal conference, and kids pay $20K more per year for the pleasure of attending than any other peer BigTen school. And each year, that tuition squeaks upwards.

Conry just needs to get lucky and strike lightning like Tambroni did with Ament. Get the ball rolling. I think he'll get there. But if he doesn't, UMich will move on.

My point in all of this is------he just inked a contract, time to move on from the " coaching hotseat" nonsense for at least a couple more seasons.

This is all started and perpetuated by the same guy who creates whole threads and frequently bumps them around coaches getting fired. You think it’s ever going to end?