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Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:36 pm
by OCanada
I think you are slightly misunderstanding my post. I don’t have any insight into his situation. I am saying that this has been an issue with kids going off the Rez and far from home forever. It’s endemic. I take him at his word because it’s fits a pattern that has been a reality for a very long time and there is no reason to question its validity. Projecting your view as an alternative to his narrative is subjective and inductive. Only he knows the answer. You want to argue with it take it up with him. Just recognize his narrative reflects ia known phenomena

Suggest you look at Cuse’s program and what they do to support their Indian students. It’s extensive.

When he says he is leaving because he feels isolated I note that is not a rare occurrence nationally. What matters is how he felt and what drove him to leave. VA had an Indian middie who graduated a couple years ago. I don’t think he grew up on the Rez. Cuse has an extensive support network it’s Indian students have as a support network financially, socially and academically. They have it fir a reason.

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:51 pm
by OCanada
Lacrosse was a pretty vicious game originally

The contest would be contested over long distances between villages with heavy betting on the outcome. Face offs were off the ground I have never been white a me to reconcile the sport as it’s been played and it’s spiritual side. I remember being on a bus on the Mohawk Rez on our way out. Stones were thrown at the bus.

Drumming ceremonies are intensely spiritual events, I went to a few and while I appreciated them didn’t feel very spiritual. Then in 1998 ( I believe) I went to a drumming ceremony in DC to honor Ada Deer who was leaving her position as Under Secretary of Indian Affairs. That night I got it. The drumming and the dancing. It wasn’t something I just observed it was something mush more. Indians belong an entirely different culture. They function in two different cultures which are not mutually understood by many. I was on e told by a black womanizer friend of the confusion she sometimes felt maneuvering between black english, white English and corporate English and her parents were both tenured professors and she had a master’s from the Sorbonne. Culture can be tough to negotiate

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:58 am
by Peter Brown
molo wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:47 pm I thought political comments were not allowed here. The stupid comment about “two block” safety and Hopkins is about as accurate as its author’s prediction of Loyola’s 2020 prognosis. Nice cheap shot Trumper.

I'm likely the most agnostic political person you'll ever meet; I literally could not care less who is in office provided they don't make living unbearable and are half-capable.

So bear my agnosticism in mind when I say: why is it that whenever anyone has an opinion about anything unrelated to politics (ie: Hopkins borders a war zone...fact), some people must automatically assume that person is a 'Trumper' (whatever that even means)? What's up with that?

The world has gone mad and thankfully we have lacrosse to ground some of us. Some of us.

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:00 am
by JBFortunato
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:58 am
molo wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:47 pm I thought political comments were not allowed here. The stupid comment about “two block” safety and Hopkins is about as accurate as its author’s prediction of Loyola’s 2020 prognosis. Nice cheap shot Trumper.

I'm likely the most agnostic political person you'll ever meet; I literally could not care less who is in office provided they don't make living unbearable and are half-capable.

So bear my agnosticism in mind when I say: why is it that whenever anyone has an opinion about anything unrelated to politics (ie: Hopkins borders a war zone...fact), some people must automatically assume that person is a 'Trumper' (whatever that even means)? What's up with that?

The world has gone mad and thankfully we have lacrosse to ground some of us. Some of us.
Preach it Peter Brown, could not agree more.

And for those of you who doubt Kevin Lindley, do it at your own peril. The kid scored 106 goals as a senior at Darien, and that's no joke. Connecticut lacrosse is consistently undervalued, but I can assure you that it's played at a very high level, the kids know how to play the game, and they play tough. Lindley won't miss a beat in 2020.

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:02 am
by stupefied
JBFortunato wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:00 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:58 am
molo wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:47 pm I thought political comments were not allowed here. The stupid comment about “two block” safety and Hopkins is about as accurate as its author’s prediction of Loyola’s 2020 prognosis. Nice cheap shot Trumper.

I'm likely the most agnostic political person you'll ever meet; I literally could not care less who is in office provided they don't make living unbearable and are half-capable.

So bear my agnosticism in mind when I say: why is it that whenever anyone has an opinion about anything unrelated to politics (ie: Hopkins borders a war zone...fact), some people must automatically assume that person is a 'Trumper' (whatever that even means)? What's up with that?

The world has gone mad and thankfully we have lacrosse to ground some of us. Some of us.
Preach it Peter Brown, could not agree more.

And for those of you who doubt Kevin Lindley, do it at your own peril. The kid scored 106 goals as a senior at Darien, and that's no joke. Connecticut lacrosse is consistently undervalued, but I can assure you that it's played at a very high level, the kids know how to play the game, and they play tough. Lindley won't miss a beat in 2020.


Darien plays top notch lax, scoring 106 goals in a season there is amazing. Did not realize that

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:04 pm
by Lenwood117
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TBA
Yorktown (Yorktown Heights, NY)
Location: Darien High School
Box Score
(W) 15 - 4
4/4
4:00p
McMahon (Norwalk, CT)
Location: Darien High School
Box Score
(W) 22 - 1
4/7
7:00p
@ Niskayuna (Niskayuna, NY)
Location: Niskayuna High School
Box Score
(W) 17 - 9
4/8
6:30p
@ Niskayuna (Niskayuna, NY)
Game Details: Union College football field
Box Score
(W) 17 - 9
4/11
7:00p
@ Ludlowe (Fairfield, CT)
Location: Ludlowe High School
Box Score
(W) 23 - 5
4/15
TBA
@ Manhasset (Manhasset, NY)
Location: Manhasset High School
Box Score
(W) 12 - 8
4/18
7:00p
@ Warde (Fairfield, CT)
Location: Warde High School
Box Score
(W) 18 - 4
4/22
7:00p
@ Wilton (Wilton, CT)
Location: Wilton High School
Box Score
(W) 11 - 4
4/25
4:00p
St. Joseph (Trumbull, CT)
Location: Darien High School
Box Score
(W) 23 - 4
4/29
4:30p
@ New Canaan (New Canaan, CT)
Location: New Canaan High School
Box ScoreRivalry Game
(W) 11 - 8
5/2
5:30p
@ Staples (Westport, CT)
Location: Staples High School
Box Score
(W) 19 - 4
5/4
7:00p
@ St. Anthony's (Melville, NY)
Location: St. Anthony's High School
Box Score
(W) 9 - 4
5/6
2:30p
Ridgefield (Ridgefield, CT)
Location: Darien High School
Box Score
(W) 10 - 3
5/9
4:00p
Norwalk (Norwalk, CT)
Game Details: DHS Turf #2
Box Score
(W) 23 - 0
5/11
4:00p
@ Trinity Catholic (Stamford, CT)
Location: Trinity Catholic High School
Box Score
(W) 21 - 4
5/13
3:00p
@ Greenwich (Greenwich, CT)
Location: Greenwich High School
Box Score
(W) 12 - 8
5/16
5:30p
Stamford (Stamford, CT)
Location: Darien High School
Box Score
(W) 22 - 2
5/20
1:00p
@ Xavier (Middletown, CT)
Game Details: Xavier High School, Stadium
Box Score
(W) 14 - 0
5/23
7:30p
Wilton (Wilton, CT)
Game Details: Brien McMahon HS
Box Score
(W) 17 - 3
5/24
7:00p
Ridgefield (Ridgefield, CT)
Game Details: Brien McMahon HS
Box Score
(W) 20 - 4
5/25
6:00p
Ridgefield (Ridgefield, CT)
Game Details: Brien McMahon HS
Box Score
(W) 20 - 4
5/31
4:30p
Conard (West Hartford, CT)
Game Details: DHS Oval - Turf
2017 CIAC Connecticut Boys Lacrosse State Championship - Class LBox Score
(W) 18 - 1
6/3
TBA
Greenwich (Greenwich, CT)
2017 CIAC Connecticut Boys Lacrosse State Championship - Class LBox Score
(W) 17 - 6
6/7
TBA
Glastonbury (Glastonbury, CT)
2017 CIAC Connecticut Boys Lacrosse State Championship - Class LBox Score
(W) 15 - 9
6/10
TBA
Cheshire (Cheshire, CT)
Game Details: State Championship Class L
2017 CIAC Connecticut Boys Lacrosse State Championship - Class LBox Score
(W) 16 - 3
Really hard?

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:29 pm
by pcowlax
What is your point with the Darien game results?

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:12 pm
by Lenwood117
Mostly every game was a blow out, and do get 106 goals you most likely played the hole game. No way he scores 106 playing in Suffolk County on LI.

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:13 pm
by Lenwood117
whole game

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:51 pm
by JBFortunato
Lenwood117 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:12 pm Mostly every game was a blow out, and do get 106 goals you most likely played the hole game. No way he scores 106 playing in Suffolk County on LI.
Darien finished 2017 as the Nike/USL #2 high school lacrosse team in the country, ranked higher than any high school lacrosse team other than Landon. Pretty sure Landon isn't in Suffolk County. And I guess Darien's opponents were highly regarded, otherwise their 23-0 record would not have earned them that #2 ranking.

They were just that good, and Lindley was prolific. I'll stand by my prediction: Lindley will thrive in 2020.

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:42 pm
by pcowlax
It is true Darien, as a public, has several mandatory easy games they would love not to play and Lindley did put up big numbers in those games. It is also true that in 2017 they were in the midst of winning 76 straight games, finishing as the #1 team in the country and rolling teams such as Manhasset, St. Anthony's, Yorktown, Nisky, New Canaan, Ridgefield, Wilton and Greenwich year after year. In 2017 Lindley had 6 goals in a 9-4 win vs St. Anthony's (they would do OK in Section 11 ;) ) and 3 and 1 in win over Sett. Did he benefit from playing along with Spencer? Sure. He is he a top notch scorer wherever and with whomever he is playing.

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:06 pm
by Peter Brown
JBFortunato wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:00 am
Peter Brown wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:58 am
molo wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:47 pm I thought political comments were not allowed here. The stupid comment about “two block” safety and Hopkins is about as accurate as its author’s prediction of Loyola’s 2020 prognosis. Nice cheap shot Trumper.

I'm likely the most agnostic political person you'll ever meet; I literally could not care less who is in office provided they don't make living unbearable and are half-capable.

So bear my agnosticism in mind when I say: why is it that whenever anyone has an opinion about anything unrelated to politics (ie: Hopkins borders a war zone...fact), some people must automatically assume that person is a 'Trumper' (whatever that even means)? What's up with that?

The world has gone mad and thankfully we have lacrosse to ground some of us. Some of us.
Preach it Peter Brown, could not agree more.

And for those of you who doubt Kevin Lindley, do it at your own peril. The kid scored 106 goals as a senior at Darien, and that's no joke. Connecticut lacrosse is consistently undervalued, but I can assure you that it's played at a very high level, the kids know how to play the game, and they play tough. Lindley won't miss a beat in 2020.

Preach back to you.

Very few college lacrosse 'experts' understand just how good Lindley is. Not only will he not miss a beat, he will excel even more this year. Playing with Pat was both a blessing (if you knew when and where to cut for the feed, Spencer was highly likely to find you...and Kevin knew!) and a curse (did anyone even write a story on Kevin this past year, even with his production? I saw a special on Pat by Carc and not once did he mention any of Pat's teammates - total slap in the face).

Kevin is strong, fast, quick, competitive, and so field smart. With Olmstead and take a pick of any of 5 excellent other attackmen vying for the #3 spot, this will be a deadly attack unit.

And of course I will be feasting on a few dozen crabs once my atheist antagonists here at fanlax cough up their dough for the woefully misguided jabs at the Hounds! These heathens shall never inherit the Kingdom of Lacrosse. Corinthians 6:10

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:15 pm
by OCanada
The Indian coach at IMG very recently resigned per a friend

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:19 pm
by Peter Brown
OCanada wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:15 pm The Indian coach at IMG very recently resigned per a friend

Was this the same guy caught up in the national college admissions scandal? I think "the lacrosse coach" there resigned for that reason, just not sure if we are discussing the same person.

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:45 pm
by OCanada
I don’t know. I think his name began with a G but I wasn’t paying particular attention other than he left

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:15 pm
by wgdsr
OCanada wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:15 pm The Indian coach at IMG very recently resigned per a friend
huh?

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:12 pm
by youthathletics
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:19 pm
OCanada wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:15 pm The Indian coach at IMG very recently resigned per a friend

Was this the same guy caught up in the national college admissions scandal? I think "the lacrosse coach" there resigned for that reason, just not sure if we are discussing the same person.
Mark Burnham aka "red"

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:26 am
by Peter Brown
youthathletics wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:12 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:19 pm
OCanada wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:15 pm The Indian coach at IMG very recently resigned per a friend

Was this the same guy caught up in the national college admissions scandal? I think "the lacrosse coach" there resigned for that reason, just not sure if we are discussing the same person.
Mark Burnham aka "red"


Same guy...

Meanwhile over at the Hopkins thread, the discussion has migrated from lacrosse/Rabil/Petro/incoming freshmen, to a more passionate convo about the surrounding Hopkins neighborhood being not dissimilar from a 3rd-world anarchic thunder-dome! Just attending a lacrosse game at Homewood, it probably pays to make sure your life insurance is squared away. :lol:

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:12 am
by HopFan16
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:26 am
youthathletics wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:12 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:19 pm
OCanada wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:15 pm The Indian coach at IMG very recently resigned per a friend

Was this the same guy caught up in the national college admissions scandal? I think "the lacrosse coach" there resigned for that reason, just not sure if we are discussing the same person.
Mark Burnham aka "red"


Same guy...

Meanwhile over at the Hopkins thread, the discussion has migrated from lacrosse/Rabil/Petro/incoming freshmen, to a more passionate convo about the surrounding Hopkins neighborhood being not dissimilar from a 3rd-world anarchic thunder-dome! Just attending a lacrosse game at Homewood, it probably pays to make sure your life insurance is squared away. :lol:
Genuine question—if Hopkins is so dangerous (it's not, but for the sake of argument, we'll say it is), doesn't that make Loyola dangerous too? It's five minutes up the road. The areas east of Guilford aren't so great. The two campuses border a lot of the same neighborhoods. At least Hop has Hampden to its immediate west. Really nice spot.

According to these two maps there is just as much crime in Kernewood/Radnor as there is in Charles Village (both below the Baltimore average):
https://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Balt ... and/crime/
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/md/baltimore/crime

I've been up to Loyola many times, took the long, ugly walk along the side of the road to Ridley—which, by the way, is probably closer to Hopkins than it is Loyola. Wouldn't want to walk around there alone at night, that's for sure.

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:34 am
by OCanada
Hampden,Roland Park, Guilford, Wyman Park, the Baltimore Museum of Art are places you want bordering your campus. The problem comes further south and further east. I would send my kid there. Loyola has its own issues on one side.

I can’t think of many that don’t. My daughter went to Yale. New Haven when she graduated was not as secure.