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Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:38 am
by MDlaxfan76
Let me offer the following scenario to my fellow heterosexual males:

The CEO of your company is a fully 'out' gay man, big guy 50 lbs heavier than you, clear 'top'.

He comes up behind you, close, hands on your shoulders, sniffs your hair, kisses the top of your head.

No problem?

Now imagine being in a society where that's considered just 'affectionate', par for the course for those less powerful in that society. No recourse.

Having trouble imagining that society?...jail.

Biden's issue is that he still doesn't seem to fully comprehend this. If he doesn't figure this out soon, it's going to be the predicate narrative when opponents get to Anita Hill and a number of other issues.

There are other 'moderate/progressive' choices within the field. They don't have his name recognition, but that's not going to be an issue in a 2-way race with Trump.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:29 pm
by wahoomurf
Attempts by Congress to secure Trump's tax returns will be an uphill struggle.One to rival Sisyphus.Per the POTUS,complying with such requests are now optional.He quotes scripture to justify his intransigence: "Many are called but few are chosen". So if the IRS has the temerity to demand I come in for an audit,I'll go fishing.

Hey the COOO set the precedent.Just following his lead.

https://www.propublica.org/article/ultr ... pockethits

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:02 pm
by MDlaxfan76
wahoomurf wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:29 pm Attempts by Congress to secure Trump's tax returns will be an uphill struggle.One to rival Sisyphus.Per the POTUS,complying with such requests are now optional.He quotes scripture to justify his intransigence: "Many are called but few are chosen". So if the IRS has the temerity to demand I come in for an audit,I'll go fishing.

Hey the COOO set the precedent.Just following his lead.

https://www.propublica.org/article/ultr ... pockethits
Interesting article.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:31 am
by jhu72
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:38 am Let me offer the following scenario to my fellow heterosexual males:

The CEO of your company is a fully 'out' gay man, big guy 50 lbs heavier than you, clear 'top'.

He comes up behind you, close, hands on your shoulders, sniffs your hair, kisses the top of your head.

No problem?

Now imagine being in a society where that's considered just 'affectionate', par for the course for those less powerful in that society. No recourse.

Having trouble imagining that society?...jail.

Biden's issue is that he still doesn't seem to fully comprehend this. If he doesn't figure this out soon, it's going to be the predicate narrative when opponents get to Anita Hill and a number of other issues.

There are other 'moderate/progressive' choices within the field. They don't have his name recognition, but that's not going to be an issue in a 2-way race with Trump.
Anita Hill is a much bigger issue for Biden than is this touch-y hug-y stuff. Hill and his history with the crime bill are his kryptonite.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:57 am
by Brooklyn
wahoomurf wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:29 pm Attempts by Congress to secure Trump's tax returns will be an uphill struggle.One to rival Sisyphus.Per the POTUS,complying with such requests are now optional.He quotes scripture to justify his intransigence: "Many are called but few are chosen". So if the IRS has the temerity to demand I come in for an audit,I'll go fishing.





Image :lol:

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:01 am
by runrussellrun
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:38 am Let me offer the following scenario to my fellow heterosexual males:

The CEO of your company is a fully 'out' gay man, big guy 50 lbs heavier than you, clear 'top'.

He comes up behind you, close, hands on your shoulders, sniffs your hair, kisses the top of your head.

No problem?

Now imagine being in a society where that's considered just 'affectionate', par for the course for those less powerful in that society. No recourse.

Having trouble imagining that society?...jail.

Biden's issue is that he still doesn't seem to fully comprehend this. If he doesn't figure this out soon, it's going to be the predicate narrative when opponents get to Anita Hill and a number of other issues.

There are other 'moderate/progressive' choices within the field. They don't have his name recognition, but that's not going to be an issue in a 2-way race with Trump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brfCKA1HG3A

Interesting that you are saying negatives about him, very interesting. TDS must be given up for lint. Easter is soon.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:15 am
by MDlaxfan76
jhu72 wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:31 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:38 am Let me offer the following scenario to my fellow heterosexual males:

The CEO of your company is a fully 'out' gay man, big guy 50 lbs heavier than you, clear 'top'.

He comes up behind you, close, hands on your shoulders, sniffs your hair, kisses the top of your head.

No problem?

Now imagine being in a society where that's considered just 'affectionate', par for the course for those less powerful in that society. No recourse.

Having trouble imagining that society?...jail.

Biden's issue is that he still doesn't seem to fully comprehend this. If he doesn't figure this out soon, it's going to be the predicate narrative when opponents get to Anita Hill and a number of other issues.

There are other 'moderate/progressive' choices within the field. They don't have his name recognition, but that's not going to be an issue in a 2-way race with Trump.
Anita Hill is a much bigger issue for Biden than is this touch-y hug-y stuff. Hill and his history with the crime bill are his kryptonite.
And possibly this stuff implying special deals for son; foreign corruption.

The touch-y feely stuff, though, creates an impression of out of touch (hair sniffing?)...making the Anita Hill aspect all the more toxic.

IMO, the Dems need a sharper contrast with Trump.

They can win blue collar voters without Biden, they just need to not alienate them or take them for granted.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:24 am
by Brooklyn
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:38 am

Biden's issue is that he still doesn't seem to fully comprehend this. If he doesn't figure this out soon, it's going to be the predicate narrative when opponents get to Anita Hill and a number of other issues.

There are other 'moderate/progressive' choices within the field. They don't have his name recognition, but that's not going to be an issue in a 2-way race with Trump.


Oh no?


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Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:26 am
by MDlaxfan76
runrussellrun wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:01 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:38 am Let me offer the following scenario to my fellow heterosexual males:

The CEO of your company is a fully 'out' gay man, big guy 50 lbs heavier than you, clear 'top'.

He comes up behind you, close, hands on your shoulders, sniffs your hair, kisses the top of your head.

No problem?

Now imagine being in a society where that's considered just 'affectionate', par for the course for those less powerful in that society. No recourse.

Having trouble imagining that society?...jail.

Biden's issue is that he still doesn't seem to fully comprehend this. If he doesn't figure this out soon, it's going to be the predicate narrative when opponents get to Anita Hill and a number of other issues.

There are other 'moderate/progressive' choices within the field. They don't have his name recognition, but that's not going to be an issue in a 2-way race with Trump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brfCKA1HG3A

Interesting that you are saying negatives about him, very interesting. TDS must be given up for lint. Easter is soon.
I think you'll find I'm pretty consistent about what I don't like about Trump and fully apply those standards to whoever is, in my opinion, anywhere near as bad. I do think we can distinguish degrees, though.

To be clear, I don't think Biden is anywhere close to to same sort of bum as Trump. He's fresh-soph by comparison
Bill Clinton was closer, HRC complicit at a minimum.

But none of them got my vote.

Biden's issue is he's a powerful man of his times, with all the entitlement that brought.

The Dems need more contrast to Trump. He'd get my vote over Trump, but I'd be holding my nose.
I'm hoping to not have to do so, even if I don't fully agree with policy views.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:52 am
by seacoaster
Any of you folks have any thoughts on Neilson's, umm, departure from the Trump Administration? Why it happened? What it means?

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:58 am
by MDlaxfan76
seacoaster wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:52 am Any of you folks have any thoughts on Neilson's, umm, departure from the Trump Administration? Why it happened? What it means?
The reporting so far is that she was forced out, that Trump thought she wasn't tough enough on shutting down migrants.
She of the child separation, zero tolerance policy.

My opinion, Trump is flailing around, needs a scapegoat.
And Steven Miller (tell me he isn't straight from central casting for Nazis) is advocating for total shutdown, damn the law.

No more Kelly as an ally.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:03 pm
by foreverlax
seacoaster wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:52 am Any of you folks have any thoughts on Neilson's, umm, departure from the Trump Administration? Why it happened? What it means?
Who knows....what is clear - none of the former cabinet secretary's mention what a privileged it has been to serve under Trump.

That speaks volumes.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:02 pm
by RedFromMI
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:58 am
seacoaster wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:52 am Any of you folks have any thoughts on Neilson's, umm, departure from the Trump Administration? Why it happened? What it means?
The reporting so far is that she was forced out, that Trump thought she wasn't tough enough on shutting down migrants.
She of the child separation, zero tolerance policy.

My opinion, Trump is flailing around, needs a scapegoat.
And Steven Miller (tell me he isn't straight from central casting for Nazis) is advocating for total shutdown, damn the law.

No more Kelly as an ally.
Key phrase: "damn the law"

Stephen Miller seems to now be fully in charge of the immigration/border issue within the White House, and just like Trump wants to disregard the law/treaties/court agreements and essentially shut down many forms of immigration. The "family" separations were specifically designed to scare potential asylum seekers from coming into the US. But it is still all connected with the idea that those nasty brown people from "*-hole" countries need to be walled out of the US, for fear that the demographics will doom the right-wing power.

Sad thing is that this does not actually help. Only makes a system in great imbalance (because of too-limited legal immigration to a degree) further out of kilter.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:14 pm
by wahoomurf
A summary of IT'S threats.Donny is indeed a man of his word.Same old,same old. :roll:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/06/us/p ... ogin-email

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:38 pm
by seacoaster
Thanks for the responses. Interesting that his "policy" of immigration reform appears to be in disarray, and he is cleaning house.

I think this comment from RedfromMI is right:

"Stephen Miller seems to now be fully in charge of the immigration/border issue within the White House...."

I think Miller is in charge of the care and maintenance of the 30+% who are enamored of this President, and ultimately the reelection effort. There is no question that Miller would have joined the National Socialist Party in 1929 or earlier, informed on his parents, and done service to the Reich in Poland during the war.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:47 pm
by dislaxxic
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Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:55 pm
by jhu72
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:15 am
jhu72 wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:31 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:38 am Let me offer the following scenario to my fellow heterosexual males:

The CEO of your company is a fully 'out' gay man, big guy 50 lbs heavier than you, clear 'top'.

He comes up behind you, close, hands on your shoulders, sniffs your hair, kisses the top of your head.

No problem?

Now imagine being in a society where that's considered just 'affectionate', par for the course for those less powerful in that society. No recourse.

Having trouble imagining that society?...jail.

Biden's issue is that he still doesn't seem to fully comprehend this. If he doesn't figure this out soon, it's going to be the predicate narrative when opponents get to Anita Hill and a number of other issues.

There are other 'moderate/progressive' choices within the field. They don't have his name recognition, but that's not going to be an issue in a 2-way race with Trump.
Anita Hill is a much bigger issue for Biden than is this touch-y hug-y stuff. Hill and his history with the crime bill are his kryptonite.
And possibly this stuff implying special deals for son; foreign corruption.

The touch-y feely stuff, though, creates an impression of out of touch (hair sniffing?)...making the Anita Hill aspect all the more toxic.

IMO, the Dems need a sharper contrast with Trump.

They can win blue collar voters without Biden, they just need to not alienate them or take them for granted.
… and this is exactly the problem the democrat's hand ringing over this issue can potentially cause. This is why Biden could not retreat on Friday in his speech before those blue collar workers. You want to lose those voters, make this a litmus test issue. The democrats do not want to damage Biden, be seen taking him down in an unfair, unjust, questionable fashion. The dems have a similar problem with Bernie, the feeling among the young and the blue collar working class that the "party" doesn't like him and is unfair to him because he is not a registered democrat.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:56 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
dislaxxic wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:47 pm Image

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It has never been about “illegal” immigration. It has been about trying to get back to the “natural” racial balance of yestster year. It was obvious.

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:02 pm
by old salt
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:38 am Let me offer the following scenario to my fellow heterosexual males:

The CEO of your company is a fully 'out' gay man, big guy 50 lbs heavier than you, clear 'top'.

He comes up behind you, close, hands on your shoulders, sniffs your hair, kisses the top of your head.

No problem?

Now imagine being in a society where that's considered just 'affectionate', par for the course for those less powerful in that society. No recourse.

Having trouble imagining that society?...jail.

Biden's issue is that he still doesn't seem to fully comprehend this. If he doesn't figure this out soon, it's going to be the predicate narrative when opponents get to Anita Hill and a number of other issues.

There are other 'moderate/progressive' choices within the field. They don't have his name recognition, but that's not going to be an issue in a 2-way race with Trump.
Is Bloomberg a personal space invader ? ...what's he waiting for ?

Re: Orange Duce

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:04 pm
by foreverlax
dislaxxic wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:47 pm Image

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Ain't that the truth.....