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Re: The Mueller Investigation

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:32 pm
by wahoomurf
AOC
dislaxxic wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:34 am Back in the day, certain LP mods would gather up "like" posts and put them together in a new place.

We really need separate threads for...

SDNY
New York AG Investigates The Don
The Trump Foundation
Trump Inauguration Committee
Porn Stars and Mob Family Bosses
TTD (Trump Tweet Derangement)
Mar-A-Lago Follies
The Jared and Ivanks SchhitShow
Eric and Donnie Junior Emulate Dad
The Presidential Lie Aggregator

What am i missing??
The BHT Cleansing Manifesto
Pithy Comments Of AOC
John McCain The Villian
Terrified Anglo Senators
Why I Would Vote For Trump Again
The Hillary Obama FLHS Tally List

Re: The Mueller Investigation

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:27 pm
by youthathletics
Its the new 24/7 news cycle. we would end up with hundreds of new threads a year, our attention is not the keen. :lol:

Re: The Mueller Investigation

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:01 am
by Trinity
Deutsche Bank could only assess Trump's net worth at $788 million. Despite Trump's entire life as a "great negotiator" and a "savvy business man", he's essentially worth no more than his father left him...minus interest.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/18/busi ... -bank.html

Re: The Mueller Investigation

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:35 pm
by Trinity
lawyers for Flynn's ex-business partner Bijan Kian, as part of pre-trial discovery, want information on Michael Flynn's "contacts with Russian officials, including Kirill Dmitriev (Russian Sovereign Wealth Fund) following the presidential election in 2016
Flynn-Dmitriev contacts??? Who knew?

Re: The Mueller Investigation

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:08 am
by Trinity
The White House will review Mueller's findings before they go to Congress and choose what information to withhold due to executive privilege, @CNN reported today.

Sounds fair, letting the perps edit the indictment. How about we learn everything except for State Secrets.

Re: The Mueller Investigation

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:01 pm
by old salt
Trinity wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:35 pm lawyers for Flynn's ex-business partner Bijan Kian, as part of pre-trial discovery, want information on Michael Flynn's "contacts with Russian officials, including Kirill Dmitriev (Russian Sovereign Wealth Fund) following the presidential election in 2016
Flynn-Dmitriev contacts??? Who knew?
Might have been about financing Russian nuc power plants as part of Flynn's Middle East Marshall Plan
(Plan B, for after Trump's loss)

https://www.ft.com/content/6a2cc100-af3 ... a01f1b0fa1

Re: The Mueller Investigation

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:14 pm
by dislaxxic
BY JULY 18, 2017, MUELLER HAD PROBABLE CAUSE MICHAEL COHEN WAS AN UNREGISTERED FOREIGN AGENT

"In addition, Cohen was working for Columbus Nova, which was ultimately controlled by Victor Vekselberg. That would be of immediate concern for the question of Russian influence.

The 951 charge, however, is more interesting. It could relate to the same thing (basically arguing that because he was working for instrumentalities of foreign countries, he was their agent — basically a “soft” spy). Or it could relate to his efforts to negotiate a Trump Tower deal for Trump. Note that the November 13 warrant basically extended the first warrant back to June 1, 2015, which would we know would cover the Trump Tower deal (and precede any tie to BTA or KAI).

951 is a charge I always suspected might be used with Paul Manafort (it still might), or even Jared Kushner. But it appears that Mueller’s worries about Trump’s closest associates acting as spies wasn’t limited to Manafort and Flynn, but extended, too, to his personal lawyer. And Mueller already had evidence of that fact by July 18, 2017."


Naaahhhhh, the FBI had no basis for looking into Russian-related activities by Trump's employees, his campaign or his family. A real nothingburger, right?

..

Re: The Mueller Investigation

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:23 pm
by MDlaxfan76
old salt wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:01 pm
Trinity wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:35 pm lawyers for Flynn's ex-business partner Bijan Kian, as part of pre-trial discovery, want information on Michael Flynn's "contacts with Russian officials, including Kirill Dmitriev (Russian Sovereign Wealth Fund) following the presidential election in 2016
Flynn-Dmitriev contacts??? Who knew?
Might have been about financing Russian nuc power plants as part of Flynn's Middle East Marshall Plan
(Plan B, for after Trump's loss)

https://www.ft.com/content/6a2cc100-af3 ... a01f1b0fa1
Or it could have been about Israeli run dairies in Russia.

* In January 2017, Nader took part in a meeting in Seychelles, which is also being probed by Mueller. In attendance were Erik Prince, Trump confidante, brother of Education Secretary Betsy Devos and founder of the security company Blackwater, as well as Kirill Dmitriev, CEO of the Russian government’s sovereign wealth fund Russia Direct Investment Fund. Dmitriev's fund has in recent months been negotiating with Israeli government ministers on a $100 million project to open Israeli-run dairies in Russia.

Article was May 2018 in Haaretz, but a pretty good run down of these various characters.
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premiu ... -1.6116639

Re: The Mueller Investigation

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:31 pm
by old salt
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:23 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:01 pm
Trinity wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:35 pm lawyers for Flynn's ex-business partner Bijan Kian, as part of pre-trial discovery, want information on Michael Flynn's "contacts with Russian officials, including Kirill Dmitriev (Russian Sovereign Wealth Fund) following the presidential election in 2016
Flynn-Dmitriev contacts??? Who knew?
Might have been about financing Russian nuc power plants as part of Flynn's Middle East Marshall Plan
(Plan B, for after Trump's loss)

https://www.ft.com/content/6a2cc100-af3 ... a01f1b0fa1
Or it could have been about Israeli run dairies in Russia.

* In January 2017, Nader took part in a meeting in Seychelles, which is also being probed by Mueller. In attendance were Erik Prince, Trump confidante, brother of Education Secretary Betsy Devos and founder of the security company Blackwater, as well as Kirill Dmitriev, CEO of the Russian government’s sovereign wealth fund Russia Direct Investment Fund. Dmitriev's fund has in recent months been negotiating with Israeli government ministers on a $100 million project to open Israeli-run dairies in Russia.

Article was May 2018 in Haaretz, but a pretty good run down of these various characters.
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premiu ... -1.6116639
I considered that too, but the Seychelles meeting did not involve Flynn & his business partner Kian, which is the litigation prompting the discovery request.

Re: The Mueller Investigation

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:33 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:23 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:01 pm
Trinity wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:35 pm lawyers for Flynn's ex-business partner Bijan Kian, as part of pre-trial discovery, want information on Michael Flynn's "contacts with Russian officials, including Kirill Dmitriev (Russian Sovereign Wealth Fund) following the presidential election in 2016
Flynn-Dmitriev contacts??? Who knew?
Might have been about financing Russian nuc power plants as part of Flynn's Middle East Marshall Plan
(Plan B, for after Trump's loss)

https://www.ft.com/content/6a2cc100-af3 ... a01f1b0fa1
Or it could have been about Israeli run dairies in Russia.

* In January 2017, Nader took part in a meeting in Seychelles, which is also being probed by Mueller. In attendance were Erik Prince, Trump confidante, brother of Education Secretary Betsy Devos and founder of the security company Blackwater, as well as Kirill Dmitriev, CEO of the Russian government’s sovereign wealth fund Russia Direct Investment Fund. Dmitriev's fund has in recent months been negotiating with Israeli government ministers on a $100 million project to open Israeli-run dairies in Russia.

Article was May 2018 in Haaretz, but a pretty good run down of these various characters.
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premiu ... -1.6116639
The articles there are generally pretty good. On my rotation!

Re: The Mueller Investigation

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:41 pm
by MDlaxfan76
old salt wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:31 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:23 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:01 pm
Trinity wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:35 pm lawyers for Flynn's ex-business partner Bijan Kian, as part of pre-trial discovery, want information on Michael Flynn's "contacts with Russian officials, including Kirill Dmitriev (Russian Sovereign Wealth Fund) following the presidential election in 2016
Flynn-Dmitriev contacts??? Who knew?
Might have been about financing Russian nuc power plants as part of Flynn's Middle East Marshall Plan
(Plan B, for after Trump's loss)

https://www.ft.com/content/6a2cc100-af3 ... a01f1b0fa1
Or it could have been about Israeli run dairies in Russia.

* In January 2017, Nader took part in a meeting in Seychelles, which is also being probed by Mueller. In attendance were Erik Prince, Trump confidante, brother of Education Secretary Betsy Devos and founder of the security company Blackwater, as well as Kirill Dmitriev, CEO of the Russian government’s sovereign wealth fund Russia Direct Investment Fund. Dmitriev's fund has in recent months been negotiating with Israeli government ministers on a $100 million project to open Israeli-run dairies in Russia.

Article was May 2018 in Haaretz, but a pretty good run down of these various characters.
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premiu ... -1.6116639
I considered that too, but the Seychelles meeting did not involve Flynn & his business partner Kian, which is the litigation prompting the discovery request.
I was being tongue-in-cheek.

So many oligarchs, so little time.
To. Cash. In.

Re: The Mueller Investigation

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:25 pm
by old salt
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:41 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:31 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:23 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:01 pm
Trinity wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:35 pm lawyers for Flynn's ex-business partner Bijan Kian, as part of pre-trial discovery, want information on Michael Flynn's "contacts with Russian officials, including Kirill Dmitriev (Russian Sovereign Wealth Fund) following the presidential election in 2016
Flynn-Dmitriev contacts??? Who knew?
Might have been about financing Russian nuc power plants as part of Flynn's Middle East Marshall Plan
(Plan B, for after Trump's loss)

https://www.ft.com/content/6a2cc100-af3 ... a01f1b0fa1
Or it could have been about Israeli run dairies in Russia.

* In January 2017, Nader took part in a meeting in Seychelles, which is also being probed by Mueller. In attendance were Erik Prince, Trump confidante, brother of Education Secretary Betsy Devos and founder of the security company Blackwater, as well as Kirill Dmitriev, CEO of the Russian government’s sovereign wealth fund Russia Direct Investment Fund. Dmitriev's fund has in recent months been negotiating with Israeli government ministers on a $100 million project to open Israeli-run dairies in Russia.

Article was May 2018 in Haaretz, but a pretty good run down of these various characters.
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premiu ... -1.6116639
I considered that too, but the Seychelles meeting did not involve Flynn & his business partner Kian, which is the litigation prompting the discovery request.
I was being tongue-in-cheek.

So many oligarchs, so little time.
To. Cash. In.
Rachel Maddow made that same Erik Prince Seychelles connection last night, ...& she wasn't being tongue in cheek.
Her nightly programming is based on google key word searches, but they do not factor in geography, time or place.

Re: The Mueller Investigation

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:44 pm
by MDlaxfan76
old salt wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:25 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:41 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:31 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:23 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:01 pm
Trinity wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:35 pm lawyers for Flynn's ex-business partner Bijan Kian, as part of pre-trial discovery, want information on Michael Flynn's "contacts with Russian officials, including Kirill Dmitriev (Russian Sovereign Wealth Fund) following the presidential election in 2016
Flynn-Dmitriev contacts??? Who knew?
Might have been about financing Russian nuc power plants as part of Flynn's Middle East Marshall Plan
(Plan B, for after Trump's loss)

https://www.ft.com/content/6a2cc100-af3 ... a01f1b0fa1
Or it could have been about Israeli run dairies in Russia.

* In January 2017, Nader took part in a meeting in Seychelles, which is also being probed by Mueller. In attendance were Erik Prince, Trump confidante, brother of Education Secretary Betsy Devos and founder of the security company Blackwater, as well as Kirill Dmitriev, CEO of the Russian government’s sovereign wealth fund Russia Direct Investment Fund. Dmitriev's fund has in recent months been negotiating with Israeli government ministers on a $100 million project to open Israeli-run dairies in Russia.

Article was May 2018 in Haaretz, but a pretty good run down of these various characters.
https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premiu ... -1.6116639
I considered that too, but the Seychelles meeting did not involve Flynn & his business partner Kian, which is the litigation prompting the discovery request.
I was being tongue-in-cheek.

So many oligarchs, so little time.
To. Cash. In.
Rachel Maddow made that same Erik Prince Seychelles connection last night, ...& she wasn't being tongue in cheek.
Her nightly programming is based on google key word searches, but they do not factor in geography, time or place.
interesting, no TV last night...but that's indeed how I stumbled across that Haaretz article...was googling Dmietriev and Vekselberg to see what overlaps they might have, given that the Flynn and Cohen meetings with these characters seemed to be happening in the same sorts of time frames...money, money, money...

Both of these guys tied to Russian intelligence...nothing to see here...
Except for all the lying...

Re: The Mueller Investigation

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:45 pm
by Trinity
I smell RICO. Lawyers? Am I too bloodthirsty?

Re: The Mueller Investigation

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:47 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
Trinity wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:45 pm I smell RICO. Lawyers? Am I too bloodthirsty?
I felt all along we would see RICO charges. Time will tell.

Re: The Mueller Investigation

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:52 pm
by holmes435
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:47 pm
Trinity wrote: Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:45 pm I smell RICO. Lawyers? Am I too bloodthirsty?
I felt all along we would see RICO charges. Time will tell.
I didn't know "Republican In Conscious Only" was a crime.

Re: The Mueller Investigation

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 6:58 am
by Trinity
Trump wants everyone to see the whole report, but mean old Bill Barr might refuse. Because Trump and his team are innocent but Americans can’t know that.

Re: The Mueller Investigation

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:48 pm
by old salt
Since it's also a Counter Intel investigation, there should also be a report that goes to the DNI, which he is required to share with the Gang of 8, & possibly the Intel Committees, at least the less sensitive (non SCI) portion, with an unclass version.
That's where the real good stuff will be.

That's probably why DNI Coats has hung in there so long, despite the abuse.

Re: The Mueller Investigation

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:43 pm
by Trinity
Hillary’s email server looks like a SCIF compared to Jared’s phone.

Re: The Mueller Investigation

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:45 pm
by foreverlax
Trinity wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2019 3:43 pm Hillary’s email server looks like a SCIF compared to Jared’s phone.
Hubris on a grand scale.