LaxPower Back-Up Stick

"Personally, I lost count of the number of flaws there are in your argument. But I’ll list just one for you:

You say “You won’t see brownshirts storm the Capitol to keep Biden in power, as they did for Trump”.

Well, what you do see is hundreds of thousands of lunatics marching in the streets up and down the country chanting “death to America” while burning the flag, all the while the Democrats around Biden are on stage at these protests cheering those terrorists on, cuddling and coddling them, telling them it’s ok to do what they’re doing, destroying private and public property at universities and businesses, hunting Jews on the streets in the name of a foreign terrorist organization. You see Dems using their campaign videos to not talk about how they can deliver better for their constituents, whether they should be talking about improving education and healthcare and transportation, and living costs, but instead all they’re talking about is how their constituents should rise up and save the terrorist group thousands of miles away. Because they have nothing to say and nothing to offer. They aren’t interested in the National Security of the United States, but rather the destruction of the Israeli State.

And then when the Jewish community, who have been vilified and targeted and received threats and hatred on American streets, stands up and supports a different candidate, they’re gaslit by you and others as being “right wing” and Trumpers and MAGA, and whatever else you want to call them.

America is on its head, and if it continues as it is, it will be on its knees, and not just begging for mercy but also facing Mecca.

Giving the keys to the White House to Biden and Harris again is like giving them control of an A-380 at 30000ft with 3 engines failed and smoking knowing they have no ability to fly or land, and instead of doing what’s right for all the passengers, the Dems are so afraid to admit they got it wrong, they’d rather just crash the plane.

America is in trouble. Denying it is dangerous and nonsensical. Giving the keys to the people who are crashing it and supporting those who are literally burning it down is just suicidal."

https://x.com/CherylWroteIt/status/1807310278599602487

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:52 pm
Well, what you do see is hundreds of thousands of lunatics marching in the streets up and down the country chanting “death to America” while burning the flag

Yeah you got some videos or proof of the hundreds of thousands? Because Biden and the mainstream Dems are certainly not supporting that at all.

They're the ones who condemn the anti-semitism while Trump says there are very good people in White Supremacist groups.

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:43 pm

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:52 pm
Well, what you do see is hundreds of thousands of lunatics marching in the streets up and down the country chanting “death to America” while burning the flag

Yeah you got some videos or proof of the hundreds of thousands? Because Biden and the mainstream Dems are certainly not supporting that at all.

They're the ones who condemn the anti-semitism while Trump says there are very good people in White Supremacist groups.

I think she's got a pretty good handle on what's going on in the United States these days under Biden.

If you have a Twitter account, I would be interested to see what her response would be if you posted there what you posted here. She's pretty sharp. I've read her responses to people who come at her. Give it a try. Who knows, she might back down off some of what she tweeted.

Here is the direct link to her tweet:

https://x.com/CherylWroteIt/status/1807310278599602487

Here's one...

https://x.com/goldsteinbrooke/status/18 ... 56457?s=46

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:10 pm Here's one...

https://x.com/goldsteinbrooke/status/18 ... 56457?s=46

The "By Any means necessary" flag? That's BAMN. That group has been around for DECADES, and has nothing to do with Biden or Dems. BAMN despises both Biden and the Dems.

That's the river to the sea crowd.

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:59 pm

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:43 pm

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:52 pm
Well, what you do see is hundreds of thousands of lunatics marching in the streets up and down the country chanting “death to America” while burning the flag

Yeah you got some videos or proof of the hundreds of thousands? Because Biden and the mainstream Dems are certainly not supporting that at all.

They're the ones who condemn the anti-semitism while Trump says there are very good people in White Supremacist groups.

I think she's got a pretty good handle on what's going on in the United States these days under Biden.

If you have a Twitter account, I would be interested to see what her response would be if you posted there what you posted here. She's pretty sharp. I've read her responses to people who come at her. Give it a try. Who knows, she might back down off some of what she tweeted.

Here is the direct link to her tweet:

https://x.com/CherylWroteIt/status/1807310278599602487

I don't have Twitter. She says she is in Israel. If she's real, I don't think she has a great handle on what's going on in the US being half a globe away. Was hoping you could provide some clarification since you support her words. The video you posted doesn't have any info about where or when or what protest that was. One of the signs looks like from a March 2022 protest, but there are certainly ones that are more recent. Maybe a few hundred people? Seems to be the norm with these protests, a few dozen to a few hundred people at most. And certainly not supported by Biden. NYPD usually cracks down pretty hard and arrests them when they are disruptive of traffic and such. I think ~300 were arrested when they tried to protest in front of the Holland Tunnel.

I personally don't care what she tweets, she's shouting into the ether. And there are so many bots and rampant on the site that it's like pi$$ing into the wind. Nothing I say will change her agenda because she isn't going to be reasoned with.

Personally I'd question and verify people's words before agreeing with them, but that's just me. Too easy to become part of the echo chamber of disinformation.

a fan wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:22 pm

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:10 pm Here's one...

https://x.com/goldsteinbrooke/status/18 ... 56457?s=46

The "By Any means necessary" flag? That's BAMN. That group has been around for DECADES, and has nothing to do with Biden or Dems. BAMN despises both Biden and the Dems.

That's the river to the sea crowd.

That doesn't contradict what she said in her tweet. It's an example of marchers who hate America, hate Jews and hate Israel and the Dems doing nothing about it. She's right. Rape denying former Dem rep Bowman was very vocal about his support for protesters like these. The Dem rep from Minnesota--she's another terrorist coddler/supporter.

Cheryl made many other statements about the state of things in America in her tweet. Hunting for Jews. Did you see the clip from the wee morning hours in Highland Park, IL the other day? That's what these Jew-hating, America-hating terrorists were asking people with obvious malice intended, "Are you a Jew?" On a NY subway train, "All Zionists (read: Jews) should get off the train while they have the chance." Again--she's got plenty right from what she tweeted. I would go to the tweet and challenge her statements if she's wrong. Maybe you can set her straight. Me? I believe what she's saying because it's all over the news. The Dems have lost control--within their party and outside it. Parts of San Francisco are now a veritable bowery. Hamas sympathizers flying their flags and marching in NY. Defund the police. Pogroms in Los Angeles. Disgraceful how they've lost control. Anarchy unchecked.

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:41 pm

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:59 pm

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:43 pm

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:52 pm
Well, what you do see is hundreds of thousands of lunatics marching in the streets up and down the country chanting “death to America” while burning the flag

Yeah you got some videos or proof of the hundreds of thousands? Because Biden and the mainstream Dems are certainly not supporting that at all.

They're the ones who condemn the anti-semitism while Trump says there are very good people in White Supremacist groups.

I think she's got a pretty good handle on what's going on in the United States these days under Biden.

If you have a Twitter account, I would be interested to see what her response would be if you posted there what you posted here. She's pretty sharp. I've read her responses to people who come at her. Give it a try. Who knows, she might back down off some of what she tweeted.

Here is the direct link to her tweet:

https://x.com/CherylWroteIt/status/1807310278599602487

I don't have Twitter. She says she is in Israel. If she's real, I don't think she has a great handle on what's going on in the US being half a globe away. Was hoping you could provide some clarification since you support her words. The video you posted doesn't have any info about where or when or what protest that was. One of the signs looks like from a March 2022 protest, but there are certainly ones that are more recent. Maybe a few hundred people? Seems to be the norm with these protests, a few dozen to a few hundred people at most. And certainly not supported by Biden. NYPD usually cracks down pretty hard and arrests them when they are disruptive of traffic and such. I think ~300 were arrested when they tried to protest in front of the Holland Tunnel.

I personally don't care what she tweets, she's shouting into the ether. And there are so many bots and rampant on the site that it's like pi$$ing into the wind. Nothing I say will change her agenda because she isn't going to be reasoned with.

Personally I'd question and verify people's words before agreeing with them, but that's just me. Too easy to become part of the echo chamber of disinformation.

We'll agree to disagree.

She knows what she's talking about because she's lived in the States and only recently moved back to Israel. There are scores of other demonstrations that have been documented. She mentioned Dem reps coddling terrorists. Here's another example:

Here's Rashida Tlaib in 2016: https://x.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1807698970203832789
and today: https://x.com/RepRashida/status/1806730415949975739

And Cheryl exposing her disinformation: https://x.com/CherylWroteIt/status/1806794669743075817

I see her as a legitimate voice exposing Islamists bent on the destruction of not only Israel, but the United States as well. Sure, she's angry. I can understand why. And she is by far not alone. There are millions of people in the USA, Israel, France and many other nations who are becoming increasingly angry at what Islamists are saying and doing--and the liberal left is seemingly unconcerned. So the violent hateful destructive demonstrations continue. I'm proud of her voice and her uncompromising message--and her call for people to wake up.

What Rashida Tlaib knows, or how to win when you’re losing
The US rep didn't bother trying to convince Congress that Hamas casualty stats are accurate. She gets the power of drama
JUL 1, 2024


Americans have always craved drama. Pro-Palestinian politicians know this, and they use it to their advantage. Pro-Israel politicians haven’t grasped the concept yet. Case in point:

It started with the formal process of introducing an amendment to the State Department Foreign Operations and Related Programs Appropriations Act of 2025. Amendment number 45 was presented by Jared Moskowitz of Florida who opened up the discussion with his bi-partisan proposal: “limiting the use of unverified statistics from the Gaza Ministry of Health.” Immediately after stating the proposal, he reserved the balance of his time. The opposing side was represented by Barbara Lee of California who argued that those statistics were the “only information available” and therefore the Gaza Ministry of Health was “the de facto authority” on the topic. She said that the UN, other (unnamed) international authorities, and the Palestinian Authority agreed that “this ministry has made a good faith effort to account for the dead.” For the State Department to work effectively “it needs real-time information.”

Lee’s arguments contained many flaws, and some of them were pointed out by Moskowitz. When called upon, he calmly clarified that his proposed amendment did not deny the “tragedy that is going on in Gaza due to Hamas’ horrific attack on Israel on October 7th.” He explained that the Gaza Ministry of Health is Hamas and that the United States cannot rely on the statistics of a terrorist organization. He said there are other possible sources of information such as other international authorities or the United Nations. He reminded the Congress that the UN, who once relied on Hamas’ numbers, significantly lowered their own estimated numbers a few weeks ago, by the thousands. He emphasized that the goal of Hamas was to “sell propaganda to the world.” The US cannot and should not partake in their plan.

The debate was very organized, professional…and boring to an American audience. Moskowitz yielded the rest of his time, and that, unfortunately, was when the real drama began.

Lee got up, requested time to speak, and yielded her time to the gentlewoman of Michigan, Rashida Tlaib.

One thing Tlaib knows how to do is play to the camera.

Tlaib began by calling it “unconscionable” that her colleagues in the House were proposing an amendment against citing the Palestinian death toll. She went on to accuse the House of Representatives of a “coordinated effort to dehumanize Palestinians and erase them from existence” since 1948. She said that the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians has been taking place since 1948, and the Israeli apartheid government is prosecuting that mission in “real-time.” She claimed that the amendment proposed by Moskowitz was an attempt to hide the genocide going on in Israel. She went on to read the latest casualty numbers from Gaza: 37,718 Palestinians, including more than 15,000 Palestinian children. Six children are killed every hour, she said, and these are innocent babies and children who are being bombed, burned alive, dismembered, and deliberately starved to death.

She further asked “Where is our shared humanity in this chamber? There is so much anti-Palestinian racism in this chamber that my colleagues don’t even want to acknowledge that Palestinians exist at all. Not when they are alive and now not even when they are dead!” By this point, Tlaib’s voice began to quiver with anger and frustration. “It’s absolutely disgusting! This is genocide denial!” She continued to explain that she knows most people in the chamber don’t believe Palestinians should live, but as the only Palestinian representative, she can’t remain silent. Then she lifted a large booklet to submit to Congress. She claimed that it was a list of names of people who died in Gaza. But she went on to explain that she couldn’t submit the list because the list was too long, and it was against congressional rules. “That’s how many have been killed!” She screamed as she dramatically threw the booklet to the table. She ended by begging, “Please don’t erase them…They are dead. What more do you want from people in Palestine?”

The chair of the meeting was unaffected. (Could he have heard one too many of Tlaib’s outbursts?) He coldly went on to Amendment number 47 without recognizing the drama that had just occurred, and Amendment 45 was eventually passed in a bipartisan vote of 269-144. I am not convinced, however, that Tlaib even cared whether it passed or not. She put on a great performance, and it was all about the performance, right? Her speech was replete with bald-faced lies and exaggerations. It didn’t even address the amendment at hand. But it was performed artfully.

The lies started from the very beginning of the speech where Tlaib baselessly and neurotically accused Congress of wanting to erase the Palestinians from existence since 1948. Clearly, the claim ignored the billions of dollars in aid the House has allotted to Gazans over the years. It also ignored the millions of dollars that went into the pier the United States constructed in order to provide aid to Gazans during the war. Her accusation was astonishing as the United States is certainly not behaving like it wants to destroy all Palestinians. And speaking of the obvious, the claim that Israel has been ethnically cleansing the Palestinians since 1948 was just as ludicrous. If that was the intent of Israel, it has been doing a terrible job. The Palestinian population has grown exponentially since 1948. You would think that as victims of genocide themselves, the Jews in Israel would have done a better job.

Her claim that this amendment was simply an attempt to hide the crimes that the US and Israel has been perpetuating since 1948 is equally extraordinary and frankly a complete misunderstanding of the amendment. The amendment was proposed in order to cease the misinformation that Hamas is putting out. Tlaib had chosen to present this amendment through her own warped spectacles. Everything that occurs, and everything that comes out of the mouths of Americans (and especially Jews) is an attack on Palestinians in Tlaib’s eyes. She couldn’t really address the amendment head-on because she didn’t even understand the amendment. I’m not really sure what that says about her as a congresswoman.

The statistics she laid out were Hamas statistics, which were exactly what the amendment was referring to. They are statistically improbable, as has been pointed out by a multitude of statisticians. (https://fathomjournal.org/statistically ... y-figures/ ). They don’t distinguish between civilians and terrorists. They certainly can’t determine whether a death has been caused by Israel or a misfired Hamas rocket. These fabricated irrelevant statistics are utterly useless. What was the point of utilizing these statistics in an argument over the notion that the US should not be using those very same statistics? Unless there were cameras rolling, of course.

Her book of names was a nice dramatic touch, particularly when she threw it down on the desk in front of her. So was the ending of her speech when she asked what more we wanted from the Palestinians. But I can tell her what more I want from the Palestinians. I want them to refuse to hide our innocent kidnapped victims in their apartments. I want them to stop physically and emotionally abusing them. I want them to help our soldiers who are trying to rid them of the terrorist regime that has been stealing billions of dollars in aid from them. And I want them to stop lying to the media.

But I think Tlaib’s low point came when she described Palestinian children being burned alive and dismembered. Using images from October 7th to describe the Palestinian’s situation was despicable. But I suppose I shouldn’t have been surprised.

Americans love drama. She knows that. So, she gave it to them.

Moskowitz might have gotten his bill passed that day, but Tlaib put on a better show.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR - Cheryl Levi is a writer and a high school English teacher who lives with her family in Bet Shemesh, Israel. She has a master's degree in medieval Jewish philosophy and has written numerous articles about faith crisis in Judaism. Her book, Reasonable Doubts, was published in 2010.

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/drama-i ... DIuMC4wLjA.

Bari Weiss: They Knew
Biden is no longer fit to be president. Last night’s debate exposed the lies we’ve been told.

By Bari Weiss

June 28, 2024

Rarely are so many lies dispelled in a single moment. Rarely are so many people exposed as liars and sycophants. Last night’s debate was a watershed on both counts.

The debate was not just a catastrophe for President Biden. And boy—oy—was it ever.

But it was more than that. It was a catastrophe for an entire class of experts, journalists, and pundits, who have, since 2020, insisted that Biden was sharp as a tack, on top of his game, basically doing handstands while peppering his staff with tough questions about care for migrant children and aid to Ukraine.

Anyone who committed the sin of using their own eyes on the 46th president was accused, variously, of being Trumpers; MAGA cult members who don’t want American democracy to survive; ageists; or just dummies easily duped by “disinformation,” “misinformation,” “fake news,” and, most recently, “cheapfakes.”

Cast your mind back to February, when Robert Hur, the special counsel appointed by the Department of Justice to look into Biden’s handling of classified documents, came out with his report that included details about Biden’s health, which explained why he would not prosecute the president.

“We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,” Hur wrote. “It would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him—by then a former president well into his eighties—of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness.”

Can anyone doubt that characterization after watching Biden’s debate performance?

Yet Eric Holder told us that Hur’s remarks were “gratuitous.” The former attorney general tweeted: “Had this report been subject to a normal DOJ review these remarks would undoubtedly have been excised.” Dan Pfeiffer, a former Obama adviser, said Hur’s report was a “partisan hit job.” Vice President Kamala Harris argued: “The way that the president’s demeanor in that report was characterized could not be more wrong on the facts, and clearly politically motivated, gratuitous.” The report does not “live in reality,” said White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre, stressing that the president was “sharp” and “on top of things.”

Shall I go on? Okay.

Here was The New York Times last week in an extensive piece headlined: “How Misleading Videos Are Trailing Biden as He Battles Age Doubts.” The story went on to attempt to convince readers that “there is the distorted, online version” of Biden, which is merely “a product of often misleading videos that play into and reinforce voters’ longstanding concerns about his age and abilities.”

With forensic detail, three Times reporters compared these videos from various angles. “Some of the videos of Mr. Biden circulating during this year’s campaign are clearly manipulated to make him look old and confused,” they wrote, pulling clips that were meant to debunk the idea that he was either. Watch them. See for yourself.

When The Wall Street Journal earlier this month came out with a story for which reporters had interviewed 45 people, soberly laying out concerns about Biden’s age, it was trashed as an “egregious hit job.” Some people called for it to be retracted.

“Congressional Republicans, foreign leaders, and nonpartisan national-security experts have made clear in their own words that President Biden is a savvy and effective leader who has a deep record of legislative accomplishment,” White House spokesman Andrew Bates told the WSJ. “Now, in 2024, House Republicans are making false claims as a political tactic that flatly contradict previous statements made by themselves and their colleagues.”

And even in the midst of last night’s dumpster fire, some stalwarts, like the Japanese soldiers who hadn’t realized they’d already lost the war, tried to spin it.

“Biden has a cold,” a source close to the president told Axios during the debate. Right, that was the trouble. A lack of Tylenol.

On MSNBC, Joy-Ann Reid suggested that the issue was that he was on the right-hand side of the screen. Yes. That was definitely the problem.

I never understood these reactions. For me, it always seemed easy enough to say: Biden’s 81. He’s fading. Most 81-year-olds do. But it seemed fair to still argue that a faded Biden is better than an all-there Trump.

As Bill Maher has put it: “I’d vote for Biden’s head in a jar of blue liquid versus Trump.” Or as Sam Harris has said: “Hunter Biden could literally have had the corpses of children in his basement, and I would not have cared.”

You may disagree with the conclusion, but it’s a coherent argument. It’s not an argument that relies on the denial of reality.

“Telling people they didn't see what they saw is not the way to respond to this.” That was Democratic operative Ben Rhodes’ reaction last night to the debate. The trouble is that’s precisely what the strategy has been for many, many months.

There were notable exceptions. Ezra Klein published a huge piece in The New York Times in February making the case that Biden should step down for the good of the country. James Carville’s been telling the truth, too.

When Rep. Dean Phillips entered the Democratic presidential primary last year, his entire campaign was based on the observation that Biden was too old for the job. I reached Phillips via text and asked him if he wanted to comment, in light of the debate, on how the Democratic establishment had treated him given that he had the guts to say the quiet part out loud. “Gandhi said to speak only when it improves upon the silence,” he texted back.


But last night, many of the very people who say they are shocked—shocked!—by Biden’s showing were exactly the people who were covering for him.

Here was Ed Krassenstein reacting to a video of Joe Biden tripping up the stairs in October of 2023: “Once again, people are pretending to be frightened over the fact that Joe Biden stumbled going up stairs at age 80. I literally stumble going up the stairs at least twice a week. I even fell down my spiral staircase a couple weeks ago. I’m 41 years old, workout daily, and actually use the stair-stepper at the gym 5 days a week. Should I be concerned?”

Here was Krassenstein last night: “Joe Biden has trouble speaking.”

Here was MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow in early February saying Biden is fit for the presidency because he can ride a bike.

Here was Maddow last night, admitting Biden had a “weak” voice and “halting delivery.”

Here was The View co-host Ana Navarro-Cárdenas in September of last year: “Joe Biden is old, but he ain’t dying any time soon. I don’t know if you guys saw him this weekend. He was at the G20. One moment I turned on the TV, he was in India, and then I turned on the TV, he was in Vietnam. Then I turned on the TV, he was giving a press conference, and then at the end of being up for, like, 24 hours working in a completely different part of the world, he said, ‘You know what? I got to go to bedʼ while Republicans were all pouncing on the fact that the man who had been up for 38 hours had to—I had to go to bed just watching him on TV.”

Here was Navarro-Cárdenas’s reaction to Biden’s post-debate speech, where he appeared to be slightly more coherent: “Where the hell was this Joe Biden?”


Those around the president—Jill Biden, certainly, but also all those savvy staffers—should have encouraged Biden to bow out gracefully after his first term. Because what happened last night was heartbreaking. It debased Biden as a man. It was also alarming—the person we saw onstage is our commander in chief. He holds the nuclear football. It wasn’t just Americans who watched his performance last night.

The Democrats talk a lot about “saving democracy.” But if you truly believe democracy is on the line in a race against Trump, the solution is as straightforward as it was before the debate clock started last night on CNN: Replace Biden. The Democratic Convention doesn’t begin until August 19. Biden still has time to pull an LBJ.

As for the rest of us? Tonight was like a flash going off. So much—and so many—revealed.


https://www.thefp.com/p/bari-weiss-pres ... te-june-27

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:02 am Bari Weiss: They Knew
Biden is no longer fit to be president. Last night’s debate exposed the lies we’ve been told.

Leaves out that the convicted felon on the other side also isn't fit to be President.

If you guys are serious about asking Biden to drop out?

You first. Put up a real conservative for your party, and nominate someone on other than Trump.

Where are the OP-Eds for that? Or are you proud that we have a felon running for President?

Biden is sharp as a tack! This man is going places!

https://x.com/breaking911/status/180779 ... 3A8dXXaEwA

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:17 am

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:02 am Bari Weiss: They Knew
Biden is no longer fit to be president. Last night’s debate exposed the lies we’ve been told.

Leaves out that the convicted felon on the other side also isn't fit to be President.

If you guys are serious about asking Biden to drop out?

You first. Put up a real conservative for your party, and nominate someone on other than Trump.

Where are the OP-Eds for that? Or are you proud that we have a felon running for President?

I don't want Biden to drop out. He's Trump's best chance of getting back into the White House. Not proud that we have Trump as the only Republican for the White House but he's better than anyone the Dems have to offer.

LaxFan2311 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:38 am Biden is sharp as a tack! This man is going places!

https://x.com/breaking911/status/180779 ... 3A8dXXaEwA

Anyone watching the debate saw it. Stunning that the Dems are sticking with him. But I guess if he doesn't want to leave, what can they do? Try to get Harris to invoke the 25th? Yeah, that will go over like a lead balloon.

Pretty simple for me. It is 100% about electability.

The country is best served by keeping Trump out of the White House. Full stop. GOP could have easily handled that for us, but they declined/failed.

So we should go with whoever has the best realistic chance of beating Trump. That might still be Biden given the late date. But all realistic options should be considered.

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 5:06 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:41 pm I don't have Twitter. She says she is in Israel. If she's real, I don't think she has a great handle on what's going on in the US being half a globe away. Was hoping you could provide some clarification since you support her words. The video you posted doesn't have any info about where or when or what protest that was. One of the signs looks like from a March 2022 protest, but there are certainly ones that are more recent. Maybe a few hundred people? Seems to be the norm with these protests, a few dozen to a few hundred people at most. And certainly not supported by Biden. NYPD usually cracks down pretty hard and arrests them when they are disruptive of traffic and such. I think ~300 were arrested when they tried to protest in front of the Holland Tunnel.

I personally don't care what she tweets, she's shouting into the ether. And there are so many bots and rampant on the site that it's like pi$$ing into the wind. Nothing I say will change her agenda because she isn't going to be reasoned with.

Personally I'd question and verify people's words before agreeing with them, but that's just me. Too easy to become part of the echo chamber of disinformation.

We'll agree to disagree.

She knows what she's talking about because she's lived in the States and only recently moved back to Israel. There are scores of other demonstrations that have been documented. She mentioned Dem reps coddling terrorists. Here's another example:

Here's Rashida Tlaib in 2016: https://x.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1807698970203832789
and today: https://x.com/RepRashida/status/1806730415949975739

And Cheryl exposing her disinformation: https://x.com/CherylWroteIt/status/1806794669743075817

I see her as a legitimate voice exposing Islamists bent on the destruction of not only Israel, but the United States as well. Sure, she's angry. I can understand why. And she is by far not alone. There are millions of people in the USA, Israel, France and many other nations who are becoming increasingly angry at what Islamists are saying and doing--and the liberal left is seemingly unconcerned. So the violent hateful destructive demonstrations continue. I'm proud of her voice and her uncompromising message--and her call for people to wake up.

We're not talking about a disagreement of policy here, but very simple facts. She's claiming hundreds of thousands of lunatics are marching around the US and chanting "death to America" while burning the flag. And that the Democrats are cheering them on.

Very simple stuff with nothing to back it up. A few hundred protesters here and there? With Biden condemning them?

If she's gonna say outlandish lies like this with nothing to back it up, then I'm not gonna easily trust her other positions, especially with simple anecdotes for evidence.

One must be much more critical of the information they absorb. From both sides. It's not a conflict where one side has its hands clean.

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:17 am

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:02 am Bari Weiss: They Knew
Biden is no longer fit to be president. Last night’s debate exposed the lies we’ve been told.

Leaves out that the convicted felon on the other side also isn't fit to be President.

If you guys are serious about asking Biden to drop out?

You first. Put up a real conservative for your party, and nominate someone on other than Trump.

Where are the OP-Eds for that? Or are you proud that we have a felon running for President?

Inqy had an editorial over the weekend calling for Trump to drop out.

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:38 am

a fan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:17 am

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:02 am Bari Weiss: They Knew
Biden is no longer fit to be president. Last night’s debate exposed the lies we’ve been told.

Leaves out that the convicted felon on the other side also isn't fit to be President.

If you guys are serious about asking Biden to drop out?

You first. Put up a real conservative for your party, and nominate someone on other than Trump.

Where are the OP-Eds for that? Or are you proud that we have a felon running for President?

I don't want Biden to drop out. He's Trump's best chance of getting back into the White House. Not proud that we have Trump as the only Republican for the White House but he's better than anyone the Dems have to offer.

Right. So you're cool with a convicted Felon as POTUS?

There's a difference between voting for Trump because you prefer him to any Dem, and preferring Trump to nominating a different Republican.

And you're telling us you prefer Trump to any other Republican? And this is after he was found guilty of fraud, not to mention the criminal felony convictions?

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:56 am

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 5:06 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:41 pm I don't have Twitter. She says she is in Israel. If she's real, I don't think she has a great handle on what's going on in the US being half a globe away. Was hoping you could provide some clarification since you support her words. The video you posted doesn't have any info about where or when or what protest that was. One of the signs looks like from a March 2022 protest, but there are certainly ones that are more recent. Maybe a few hundred people? Seems to be the norm with these protests, a few dozen to a few hundred people at most. And certainly not supported by Biden. NYPD usually cracks down pretty hard and arrests them when they are disruptive of traffic and such. I think ~300 were arrested when they tried to protest in front of the Holland Tunnel.

I personally don't care what she tweets, she's shouting into the ether. And there are so many bots and rampant on the site that it's like pi$$ing into the wind. Nothing I say will change her agenda because she isn't going to be reasoned with.

Personally I'd question and verify people's words before agreeing with them, but that's just me. Too easy to become part of the echo chamber of disinformation.

We'll agree to disagree.

She knows what she's talking about because she's lived in the States and only recently moved back to Israel. There are scores of other demonstrations that have been documented. She mentioned Dem reps coddling terrorists. Here's another example:

Here's Rashida Tlaib in 2016: https://x.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1807698970203832789
and today: https://x.com/RepRashida/status/1806730415949975739

And Cheryl exposing her disinformation: https://x.com/CherylWroteIt/status/1806794669743075817

I see her as a legitimate voice exposing Islamists bent on the destruction of not only Israel, but the United States as well. Sure, she's angry. I can understand why. And she is by far not alone. There are millions of people in the USA, Israel, France and many other nations who are becoming increasingly angry at what Islamists are saying and doing--and the liberal left is seemingly unconcerned. So the violent hateful destructive demonstrations continue. I'm proud of her voice and her uncompromising message--and her call for people to wake up.

We're not talking about a disagreement of policy here, but very simple facts. She's claiming hundreds of thousands of lunatics are marching around the US and chanting "death to America" while burning the flag. And that the Democrats are cheering them on.

Very simple stuff with nothing to back it up. A few hundred protesters here and there? With Biden condemning them?

If she's gonna say outlandish lies like this with nothing to back it up, then I'm not gonna easily trust her other positions, especially with simple anecdotes for evidence.

One must be much more critical of the information they absorb. From both sides. It's not a conflict where one side has its hands clean.

Sounds exactly like the left calling everyone Christo-fascist white nationalists. That lie has been peddled with no factual backing as there is hardly anyone in the US who adheres to this philosophy. But the left has lots of criminal organizations in the US who want to destroy our country, creating havoc and disrupting our way of life such as Antifa, BLM, Climate freaks, Gays and Trans for Palestine etc. I loved how NYC gay pride event was disrupted by Pro Palestine people. Gays would be stoned to death and thrown off buildings in Palestine. When the woke, victimhood pyramid clashes, it makes my day as it shows how hypocritical and hateful the left is.

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:56 am

OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 5:06 am

NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:41 pm I don't have Twitter. She says she is in Israel. If she's real, I don't think she has a great handle on what's going on in the US being half a globe away. Was hoping you could provide some clarification since you support her words. The video you posted doesn't have any info about where or when or what protest that was. One of the signs looks like from a March 2022 protest, but there are certainly ones that are more recent. Maybe a few hundred people? Seems to be the norm with these protests, a few dozen to a few hundred people at most. And certainly not supported by Biden. NYPD usually cracks down pretty hard and arrests them when they are disruptive of traffic and such. I think ~300 were arrested when they tried to protest in front of the Holland Tunnel.

I personally don't care what she tweets, she's shouting into the ether. And there are so many bots and rampant on the site that it's like pi$$ing into the wind. Nothing I say will change her agenda because she isn't going to be reasoned with.

Personally I'd question and verify people's words before agreeing with them, but that's just me. Too easy to become part of the echo chamber of disinformation.

We'll agree to disagree.

She knows what she's talking about because she's lived in the States and only recently moved back to Israel. There are scores of other demonstrations that have been documented. She mentioned Dem reps coddling terrorists. Here's another example:

Here's Rashida Tlaib in 2016: https://x.com/LizaRosen0000/status/1807698970203832789
and today: https://x.com/RepRashida/status/1806730415949975739

And Cheryl exposing her disinformation: https://x.com/CherylWroteIt/status/1806794669743075817

I see her as a legitimate voice exposing Islamists bent on the destruction of not only Israel, but the United States as well. Sure, she's angry. I can understand why. And she is by far not alone. There are millions of people in the USA, Israel, France and many other nations who are becoming increasingly angry at what Islamists are saying and doing--and the liberal left is seemingly unconcerned. So the violent hateful destructive demonstrations continue. I'm proud of her voice and her uncompromising message--and her call for people to wake up.

We're not talking about a disagreement of policy here, but very simple facts. She's claiming hundreds of thousands of lunatics are marching around the US and chanting "death to America" while burning the flag. And that the Democrats are cheering them on.

Very simple stuff with nothing to back it up. A few hundred protesters here and there? With Biden condemning them?

If she's gonna say outlandish lies like this with nothing to back it up, then I'm not gonna easily trust her other positions, especially with simple anecdotes for evidence.

One must be much more critical of the information they absorb. From both sides. It's not a conflict where one side has its hands clean.

She's posting videos that do not match what she claims in the text.

This is Textbook clickbait------tell the viewer what they're seeing in a video, when the viewer has NO WAY to know if they're lying or not.

So claims of breaking laws and doing nothing? She then shows protesters walking down a street....doing nothing that's remotely illegal.

And now you're telling us she's in Israel...commenting on something she can't witness thats an ocean away?

Dude. Come on. This ain't exactly trustworthy....