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51percentcorn wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:08 pm Let me clarify a couple points. First, I am assuming the DIII Centennial Conference will cancel spring sports - hasn't Swarthmore (a conference member) already opted out? So the only Hopkins sports up for grabs so to speak are the men's and women's BIG 10 conference lacrosse programs. If that is not the case - then I agree to Wombat's point that all involved sports teams will need the same solution.

I am not saying the administration would bubble-lize the lacrosse teams because the admin thinks they are special. They would do it for the following reasons: the lacrosse program has more cache and street cred with alumni than current students - this would appease the alumni upset if the BIG played and Hopkins did not. It would provide some limited social viability to the '21 Spring semester - Hopkins would have some games on streaming or TV. If the majority of Hopkins rivals played in '21 and Hopkins did not - it would significantly harm the program - which takes us back to point #1. They might be forced to sit out in '21 with little room at any other inn but you can be assured that marketable Hopkins players would look elsewhere as soon as possible and it would crush recruiting along with Junior and Jamo wondering what the H E double toothpicks did they sign up for. You can't build your resume if you can't work.

They would not have to bubble anyone for six months - more like 4 and a half. If all the other students are back - then the horse is really out of the barn - given that what 2/3rds or more of the students live off campus. If the semester goes virtual - than its easy - teams go in a dorm - they don't go off campus - price you pay for being a DI athlete. And alot better than the alternative.

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:45 pm If the experts at Johns Hopkins believe the campus can be opened safely in stages and that a lacrosse season can be played safely, they will give it a try. If they don’t, they won’t. Decision is coming in December.

https://covidinfo.jhu.edu/

https://covidinfo.jhu.edu/information-f ... -students/

Besides, Hopkins has plenty of information and data available to guide their efforts ... mainly by learning from those universities and college football programs who have successfully opened their campuses and protected their football programs, and those that have been less successful.

If Johns Hopkins cannot safely play lacrosse, no school can.

I suspect Johns Hopkins will be play a delayed, truncated lacrosse season.

DocBarrister

jhu06 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:02 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:45 pm If the experts at Johns Hopkins believe the campus can be opened safely in stages and that a lacrosse season can be played safely, they will give it a try. If they don’t, they won’t. Decision is coming in December.

https://covidinfo.jhu.edu/

https://covidinfo.jhu.edu/information-f ... -students/

Besides, Hopkins has plenty of information and data available to guide their efforts ... mainly by learning from those universities and college football programs who have successfully opened their campuses and protected their football programs, and those that have been less successful.

If Johns Hopkins cannot safely play lacrosse, no school can.

I suspect Johns Hopkins will be play a delayed, truncated lacrosse season.

DocBarrister

the dixon podcast last weekend on il/spotify starting at 1455 into the hour long pod discusses the state of playing next spring for hopkins and the big ten and he's very bullish on it in his words. he notes that the big 10 and acc are especially really bent on playing the ncaa tournaments for basketball which are a sizable chunk of revenue and they would be hard pressed to play those and say well no we can't also do the other sports. at 45 he gets back to what Milliman is going to do differently and emphasizing some of the challenges milliman is going to face and why some familiar faces who were productive in the past might not fit.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5fmlbLBxVmIzJl1MNPg7sU

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:28 pm

jhu06 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:02 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:45 pm If the experts at Johns Hopkins believe the campus can be opened safely in stages and that a lacrosse season can be played safely, they will give it a try. If they don’t, they won’t. Decision is coming in December.

https://covidinfo.jhu.edu/

https://covidinfo.jhu.edu/information-f ... -students/

Besides, Hopkins has plenty of information and data available to guide their efforts ... mainly by learning from those universities and college football programs who have successfully opened their campuses and protected their football programs, and those that have been less successful.

If Johns Hopkins cannot safely play lacrosse, no school can.

I suspect Johns Hopkins will be play a delayed, truncated lacrosse season.

DocBarrister

the dixon podcast last weekend on il/spotify starting at 1455 into the hour long pod discusses the state of playing next spring for hopkins and the big ten and he's very bullish on it in his words. he notes that the big 10 and acc are especially really bent on playing the ncaa tournaments for basketball which are a sizable chunk of revenue and they would be hard pressed to play those and say well no we can't also do the other sports. at 45 he gets back to what Milliman is going to do differently and emphasizing some of the challenges milliman is going to face and why some familiar faces who were productive in the past might not fit.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5fmlbLBxVmIzJl1MNPg7sU

I’m optimistic as well.

Considering that college athletes will travel more frequently than most college students, and are more likely to be in situations where social distancing and masking are impractical, I think Hopkins may require COVID-19 vaccination as a condition of participating in Spring sports. That’s assuming vaccine doses become available soon.

Maybe the first vaccine dose in early January, a second dose by the beginning of the semester (January 25, 2021), and then the beginning of practice in the first week of February. The season, maybe a truncated 8-game regular season, would begin in the first week of March.

Here’s hopin’.

DocBarrister

jhu06 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:02 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:45 pm If the experts at Johns Hopkins believe the campus can be opened safely in stages and that a lacrosse season can be played safely, they will give it a try. If they don’t, they won’t. Decision is coming in December.

https://covidinfo.jhu.edu/

https://covidinfo.jhu.edu/information-f ... -students/

Besides, Hopkins has plenty of information and data available to guide their efforts ... mainly by learning from those universities and college football programs who have successfully opened their campuses and protected their football programs, and those that have been less successful.

If Johns Hopkins cannot safely play lacrosse, no school can.

I suspect Johns Hopkins will be play a delayed, truncated lacrosse season.

DocBarrister

the dixon podcast last weekend on il/spotify starting at 1455 into the hour long pod discusses the state of playing next spring for hopkins and the big ten and he's very bullish on it in his words. he notes that the big 10 and acc are especially really bent on playing the ncaa tournaments for basketball which are a sizable chunk of revenue and they would be hard pressed to play those and say well no we can't also do the other sports. at 45 he gets back to what Milliman is going to do differently and emphasizing some of the challenges milliman is going to face and why some familiar faces who were productive in the past might not fit.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:46 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:28 pm

jhu06 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:02 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:45 pm If the experts at Johns Hopkins believe the campus can be opened safely in stages and that a lacrosse season can be played safely, they will give it a try. If they don’t, they won’t. Decision is coming in December.

https://covidinfo.jhu.edu/

https://covidinfo.jhu.edu/information-f ... -students/

Besides, Hopkins has plenty of information and data available to guide their efforts ... mainly by learning from those universities and college football programs who have successfully opened their campuses and protected their football programs, and those that have been less successful.

If Johns Hopkins cannot safely play lacrosse, no school can.

I suspect Johns Hopkins will be play a delayed, truncated lacrosse season.

DocBarrister

the dixon podcast last weekend on il/spotify starting at 1455 into the hour long pod discusses the state of playing next spring for hopkins and the big ten and he's very bullish on it in his words. he notes that the big 10 and acc are especially really bent on playing the ncaa tournaments for basketball which are a sizable chunk of revenue and they would be hard pressed to play those and say well no we can't also do the other sports. at 45 he gets back to what Milliman is going to do differently and emphasizing some of the challenges milliman is going to face and why some familiar faces who were productive in the past might not fit.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5fmlbLBxVmIzJl1MNPg7sU

I’m optimistic as well.

Considering that college athletes will travel more frequently than most college students, and are more likely to be in situations where social distancing and masking are impractical, I think Hopkins may require COVID-19 vaccination as a condition of participating in Spring sports. That’s assuming vaccine doses become available soon.

Maybe the first vaccine dose in early January, a second dose by the beginning of the semester (January 25, 2021), and then the beginning of practice in the first week of February. The season, maybe a truncated 8-game regular season, would begin in the first week of March.

Here’s hopin’.

DocBarrister

Sorry to throw cold water on this, but in what world are college athletes near the front of the line for vaccinations?

Seems to me we're going to be very pleased if us old guys without specific co-morbidities (I'm 63) can get first doses by March. I'm thinking closer to April/May for us, but hope I'm too conservative on that prediction.

I do think that if we've vaccinated all healthcare workers, first responders, all elderly and all those with serious co-morbidities by March, so can then begin with the rest of us, the public health risks drop precipitously from there and we can expect colleges to begin to open up. And certainly at that point, I'd expect college sports to be straightforward thereon.

Gonna be a rough winter, though.

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:02 pm ^With respect to the above I agree in general that it's going to be anyone's ballgame for the most part—guys who were afterthoughts previously could suddenly get opportunities and guys who were regularly involved could find themselves riding the pine. HOWEVER I think you're being a bit hyperbolic,

flalax22 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:13 am

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:02 pm ^With respect to the above I agree in general that it's going to be anyone's ballgame for the most part—guys who were afterthoughts previously could suddenly get opportunities and guys who were regularly involved could find themselves riding the pine. HOWEVER I think you're being a bit hyperbolic,

Definitely was bringing some hyperbole to the conversation and was directing it mostly at the upperclassman who have seen time. I agree both Degnon and Murphy look like they can compete. But I’m also saying that I would not be surprised at all to see freshies like Grimes Raposo and Peshko eat minutes. I think guys with box backgrounds will be favored in a Jr/Milliman offense.

51percentcorn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:50 am Zinn is an interesting one for sure. Physically the tools are there - maybe the new staff can help with his shooting - the stats are telling from last year his shot % last year was an abysmal 14% but he hit the cage at a 57% clip so of his 42 shots 18 were saved. Now the shot clock has obvioulsy affected this stat all over lacrosse but I think the story could still be written - maybe.

As far as playing time for different folks - Milliman has zero loyalty to anyone - except perhaps the 3 defensive transfers. DeSimone is plenty athletic enough - at attack. he's just not a face the goal from out front - alley/wing dodge middie. I believe the reason that "typically" (key word in this sentence) smaller players have success at attack is quickness - not necessarily speed - when going against 6'2"-3" 215/220 lb close defenders. Take the same player and put him further away from the goal - where speed is more important - and up against players quicker than many close defensemen and they are less successful. One of the biggest offensive issues over the past couple years is that Hopkins is chock full of those types of players - Concannon/Baskin/DeSimone/Keogh.

I agree with '16 - Williams/Epstein/Degnon/Murphy will likely have major roles. Of returning players I would also put Angelus and Zinn in there as well. Of the freshmen - Grimes of course is the most celebrated. It will be fascinating to see what happens with players like McDermott/Bauer and all the freshmen with last names ending in "O".

Defensively, if you are not on the coaching staff and can predict what's going to happen there - I might point out that the Powerball is over $350 now

jhu06 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:59 am you just named 8 attackmen and left off schilling who has been a man up guy. Connor I'm sure is one of the highest ticket scholarship guys so his defection would have created big $$$.

51percentcorn wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:04 pm

jhu06 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:59 am you just named 8 attackmen and left off schilling who has been a man up guy. Connor I'm sure is one of the highest ticket scholarship guys so his defection would have created big $$$.

Yes I guess I did name all the attackmen that played last year and the more highly ranked incoming freshmen - what's the point? There's what 16 names with attack as part of their roster identification - Degnon has played attack - and Baskin and DeSimone are really attackmen so 19?????? This is simply another concrete example of the absurdity of the roster construction in the recent past and the challenges Milliman is facing

wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:29 pm pretty good vaccine news. cdc recommends health care workers, long-term care residents, and athletes at top research institutions that can handle the coronavirus better than other dolt schools because smarts... go first.

jhu06 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:23 pm What worries me is the lack of depth where if you lose a reinson or some of the new defenders, you're looking at loaded terp/psu/cuse programs and inexperienced hop guys.