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Re: Is America a racist nation?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:22 pm
by youthathletics
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:43 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:25 pm They should all have higher budgets, since their payroll is far lower as many police officers exit earlier and staffing is competing with their number 1 concern. You can thank the libs for all this. In their world, all police are bad, need to be shot, bit, not trusted, hit over the head with pipes, disrespected when asked to show DL and Registration.
No figures?


Sorry, you said "all" should be higher budgets...arguable, but I sure as heck want police to be well funded...almost as much as I wish education was well funded.

cradle was making a claim that they were "defunded", but I think that it has been very rare anywhere in the US to actually have had public safety budgets cut.

But if you know differently, please cite the specific facts from a credible source...not right wing media talking points, please. Nor left wing for that matter...actual facts please.
I was say high budgets, because there are less people to pay, b/c police so many officers HAVE rolled out.

Re: Is America a racist nation?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:45 pm
by MDlaxfan76
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:22 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:43 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:25 pm They should all have higher budgets, since their payroll is far lower as many police officers exit earlier and staffing is competing with their number 1 concern. You can thank the libs for all this. In their world, all police are bad, need to be shot, bit, not trusted, hit over the head with pipes, disrespected when asked to show DL and Registration.
No figures?


Sorry, you said "all" should be higher budgets...arguable, but I sure as heck want police to be well funded...almost as much as I wish education was well funded.

cradle was making a claim that they were "defunded", but I think that it has been very rare anywhere in the US to actually have had public safety budgets cut.

But if you know differently, please cite the specific facts from a credible source...not right wing media talking points, please. Nor left wing for that matter...actual facts please.
I was say high budgets, because there are less people to pay, b/c police so many officers HAVE rolled out.
I need you to decipher that for me, may have been a typo or a grammatical error?

Re: Is America a racist nation?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:09 pm
by Typical Lax Dad

Re: Is America a racist nation?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:14 pm
by a fan
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:45 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:22 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:43 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:25 pm They should all have higher budgets, since their payroll is far lower as many police officers exit earlier and staffing is competing with their number 1 concern. You can thank the libs for all this. In their world, all police are bad, need to be shot, bit, not trusted, hit over the head with pipes, disrespected when asked to show DL and Registration.
No figures?


Sorry, you said "all" should be higher budgets...arguable, but I sure as heck want police to be well funded...almost as much as I wish education was well funded.

cradle was making a claim that they were "defunded", but I think that it has been very rare anywhere in the US to actually have had public safety budgets cut.

But if you know differently, please cite the specific facts from a credible source...not right wing media talking points, please. Nor left wing for that matter...actual facts please.
I was say high budgets, because there are less people to pay, b/c police so many officers HAVE rolled out.
I need you to decipher that for me, may have been a typo or a grammatical error?
Budgets are all over the place nationally. Completely all over the place.

Here's a nice interactive map....

https://www.vera.org/publications/what- ... est-cities

Re: Is America a racist nation?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:21 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
a fan wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:14 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 7:45 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:22 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:43 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:25 pm They should all have higher budgets, since their payroll is far lower as many police officers exit earlier and staffing is competing with their number 1 concern. You can thank the libs for all this. In their world, all police are bad, need to be shot, bit, not trusted, hit over the head with pipes, disrespected when asked to show DL and Registration.
No figures?


Sorry, you said "all" should be higher budgets...arguable, but I sure as heck want police to be well funded...almost as much as I wish education was well funded.

cradle was making a claim that they were "defunded", but I think that it has been very rare anywhere in the US to actually have had public safety budgets cut.

But if you know differently, please cite the specific facts from a credible source...not right wing media talking points, please. Nor left wing for that matter...actual facts please.
I was say high budgets, because there are less people to pay, b/c police so many officers HAVE rolled out.
I need you to decipher that for me, may have been a typo or a grammatical error?
Budgets are all over the place nationally. Completely all over the place.

Here's a nice interactive map....

https://www.vera.org/publications/what- ... est-cities
I mentioned a few years ago that if we invested in our people early on we wouldn’t spend so much on housing people in prison, could have lower policing expenses and have more productive people paying more taxes and in increase overall productivity of the population. We are being sub optimized as a nation. Cradleandshoot called it handouts and a lack of parental responsibility…..oh well.

Re: Is America a racist nation?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:24 pm
by a fan
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:21 pm
I mentioned a few years ago that if we invested in our people early on we wouldn’t spend so much on housing people in prison, could have lower policing expenses and have more productive people paying more taxes and in increase overall productivity of the population. We are being sub optimized as a nation. Cradleandshoot called it handouts and a lack of parental responsibility…..oh well.
My wife can tell you where the lines diverge-----it's MUCH cheaper to invest in kids early---the poor especially------instead of throwing everyone in jail when it's too late.

Said it a million times-----we should be using our MASSIVE GDP to absolutely smoke other nations. I hate that we don't.

Re: Is America a racist nation?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:31 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
a fan wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:24 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:21 pm
I mentioned a few years ago that if we invested in our people early on we wouldn’t spend so much on housing people in prison, could have lower policing expenses and have more productive people paying more taxes and in increase overall productivity of the population. We are being sub optimized as a nation. Cradleandshoot called it handouts and a lack of parental responsibility…..oh well.
My wife can tell you where the lines diverge-----it's MUCH cheaper to invest in kids early---the poor especially------instead of throwing everyone in jail when it's too late.

Said it a million times-----we should be using our MASSIVE GDP to absolutely smoke other nations. I that that we don't.
Absolutely. It’s an investment and our society would benefit.

Re: Is America a racist nation?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:08 pm
by Farfromgeneva
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:25 pm They should all have higher budgets, since their payroll is far lower as many police officers exit earlier and staffing is competing with their number 1 concern. You can thank the libs for all this. In their world, all police are bad, need to be shot, bit, not trusted, hit over the head with pipes, disrespected when asked to show DL and Registration.
Please let B-Real provide my rebuttal

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llpHcXBwmfk

Re: Is America a racist nation?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:09 pm
by MDlaxfan76
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:31 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:24 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:21 pm
I mentioned a few years ago that if we invested in our people early on we wouldn’t spend so much on housing people in prison, could have lower policing expenses and have more productive people paying more taxes and in increase overall productivity of the population. We are being sub optimized as a nation. Cradleandshoot called it handouts and a lack of parental responsibility…..oh well.
My wife can tell you where the lines diverge-----it's MUCH cheaper to invest in kids early---the poor especially------instead of throwing everyone in jail when it's too late.

Said it a million times-----we should be using our MASSIVE GDP to absolutely smoke other nations. I that that we don't.
Absolutely. It’s an investment and our society would benefit.
+100

Great map, a fan.

Let's just say that my hometown, Baltimore is not "defunded", either on a cost per resident, share of total city budget, nor # of police per resident...and yet...damn liberals.

Re: Is America a racist nation?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:22 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:09 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:31 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:24 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:21 pm
I mentioned a few years ago that if we invested in our people early on we wouldn’t spend so much on housing people in prison, could have lower policing expenses and have more productive people paying more taxes and in increase overall productivity of the population. We are being sub optimized as a nation. Cradleandshoot called it handouts and a lack of parental responsibility…..oh well.
My wife can tell you where the lines diverge-----it's MUCH cheaper to invest in kids early---the poor especially------instead of throwing everyone in jail when it's too late.

Said it a million times-----we should be using our MASSIVE GDP to absolutely smoke other nations. I that that we don't.
Absolutely. It’s an investment and our society would benefit.
+100

Great map, a fan.

Let's just say that my hometown, Baltimore is not "defunded", either on a cost per resident, share of total city budget, nor # of police per resident...and yet...damn liberals.
This chart should bother us.

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Re: Is America a racist nation?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:27 pm
by youthathletics
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:08 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:25 pm They should all have higher budgets, since their payroll is far lower as many police officers exit earlier and staffing is competing with their number 1 concern. You can thank the libs for all this. In their world, all police are bad, need to be shot, bit, not trusted, hit over the head with pipes, disrespected when asked to show DL and Registration.
Please let B-Real provide my rebuttal

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llpHcXBwmfk
I prefer B-Rad and his peeps: https://youtu.be/_tezRkx7DpY

https://youtu.be/ltbfdokIVQI

Re: Is America a racist nation?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:31 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
Image

I wonder why the slope increased dramatically in the 1970s and beyond?

Re: Is America a racist nation?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:38 pm
by youthathletics
Jimmy Carter was President?

Re: Is America a racist nation?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:41 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:38 pm Jimmy Carter was President?
Yes.

Re: Is America a racist nation?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:45 pm
by youthathletics
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:41 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:38 pm Jimmy Carter was President?
Yes.
He is a racist.

Re: Is America a racist nation?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:47 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:45 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:41 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:38 pm Jimmy Carter was President?
Yes.
He was a racists
He was? I never thought that to be the case.

Re: Is America a racist nation?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:51 pm
by youthathletics
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:47 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:45 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:41 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:38 pm Jimmy Carter was President?
Yes.
He was a racists
He was? I never thought that to be the case.
You agreed it’s why he sent people of color to jail.

Re: Is America a racist nation?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:55 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:51 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:47 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:45 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:41 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:38 pm Jimmy Carter was President?
Yes.
He was a racists
He was? I never thought that to be the case.
You agreed it’s why he sent people of color to jail.
Where? Your reading comprehension is bad. You said Jimmy Carter was President. I agreed that he was…..you were just putting it out there.

Re: Is America a racist nation?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:57 pm
by a fan
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:22 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:09 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:31 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:24 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:21 pm
I mentioned a few years ago that if we invested in our people early on we wouldn’t spend so much on housing people in prison, could have lower policing expenses and have more productive people paying more taxes and in increase overall productivity of the population. We are being sub optimized as a nation. Cradleandshoot called it handouts and a lack of parental responsibility…..oh well.
My wife can tell you where the lines diverge-----it's MUCH cheaper to invest in kids early---the poor especially------instead of throwing everyone in jail when it's too late.

Said it a million times-----we should be using our MASSIVE GDP to absolutely smoke other nations. I that that we don't.
Absolutely. It’s an investment and our society would benefit.
+100

Great map, a fan.

Let's just say that my hometown, Baltimore is not "defunded", either on a cost per resident, share of total city budget, nor # of police per resident...and yet...damn liberals.
This chart should bother us.

Image
Notice the "socialist" countries that actually invest in their people have the lowest rates?

This, btw, is what a policy wonks mean by "defund the police". They mean: take the money we're blowing on police and jails, and INVEST in your communities and your kids. If you do that? You won't need the doggone jails.

And again, I agree it's a stupid, stupid way of phrasing it.

Re: Is America a racist nation?

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:59 pm
by Farfromgeneva
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:27 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:08 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 14, 2023 3:25 pm They should all have higher budgets, since their payroll is far lower as many police officers exit earlier and staffing is competing with their number 1 concern. You can thank the libs for all this. In their world, all police are bad, need to be shot, bit, not trusted, hit over the head with pipes, disrespected when asked to show DL and Registration.
Please let B-Real provide my rebuttal

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llpHcXBwmfk
I prefer B-Rad and his peeps: https://youtu.be/_tezRkx7DpY

https://youtu.be/ltbfdokIVQI
Just showed this movie to my son (perhaps too young but oh well)-he loved it.

What about Black Sheep?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tlE5yK4l34o

B-Real is a HOFer though

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I826gxc8TvI

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W4VpE-0zitU