Re: Johns Hopkins 2020
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:20 pm
The hook is that it's a very good school and has that, as you called it, "Amazing Lacrosse Tradition." It's that simple.
Does 2018 not count? I get that it's been a rough go as of late but that was less than two years ago?
It doesn't? According to whom?
If it seems like he was a doing a very good job, there wouldn't be a very large contignent of people talking about who should replace him over the past weeks. If it seems like he was doing a very good job then the question would be why didn't he get a contract extension like he has in the past?
WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:35 pm One good thing: He’s kept Hopkins out of national headlines.
Partly. Partly instruction. Partly omertà.flalax22 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:39 pmWOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:35 pm One good thing: He’s kept Hopkins out of national headlines.
Perhaps that has just been good luck?
360 degree turn.stupefied wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:25 pm Until they begin to win, then they'll be in a upswing with JHU faithful taking a 360 degree turn just as they did late season after Maryland wins and PSU contest or the opening Towson win this year . Petro has some good recruiting classes lined up. End of season, only one team stands. Wont be JHU but also wont be 73 others . All be good, Doc Barrister will ride out the bumps.
lol - nice try trolling but at least try and get some facts straight. Coming from Stanford in Cali, Hopkins has a far stellar reputation than many ivies save for HYPS due to its STEM prowess (which are bad at dartmouth and brown and deficient from a penn engineering perspective). And yea, way off on the playoff games "many years" as pointed out by others.DTTMT2018 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:13 pm New to fanlax posting, but have been an avid reader for years. During that time, I've casually observed the activity on this particular forum and have noted the intensity with which JHU fans care about their lax team (often admiringly, often with a degree of shock, looking at you Wilkins Dismuke). But I've been thinking recently...
At what point does JHU stop being the top tier men's lax program that it has been for all these years and move to the second tier of programs in the realm of Towson, Villanova, Marquette, etc? I think in the past, hs recruits were (and many still are) wowed by the history and high profile nature of the program, not to mention the success year after year on the field. That profile, combined with the academics, made it THE place to go for the best recruits in the country.
Recently though, recruiting has fallen by the wayside compared to what it once was, the team hasn't won an NCAA playoff game in years, and it seems like other schools are becoming viable alternatives to JHU's mix of academics and athletics. For example, Penn and Yale 10-20 years ago wouldn't have dreamed of pulling the caliber of recruits that JHU, Maryland, and ACC teams did, but nowadays, they certainly are, just look at Yale's recruiting class next year. I'm thinking of the type of kid in HS that is a good student, but also very talented on the field. Why wouldn't he go Ivy (maybe excluding Dartmouth) if he knows the recent success of Yale, Penn, Cornell on the national stage over JHU??? What does JHU offer that those programs don't. I'm sure people on this page will say Hopkins is a great school, and it is, but it doesn't have the reputation of the Ivys/Duke/UVa.
Also, I've had conversations with several former JHU players who have made the claim that when comparing their social experiences at JHU to the experiences of peers at Big10, Ivy, ACC schools, they don't really compare. This is obviously hard to give real value to as a highschooler, but it certainly evident upon arrival at college and in post-grad life.
I think that the issue with this program is less a function of Petro and more a function of the evolving landscape in college lax. I'm ready for someone to prove me wrong, or for JHU to go on a huge run to make me look like an idiot, but again I pose the question: when (if ever) does JHU turn into a second tier program?
STEM is "bad at Dartmouth"???norcalhop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:52 amlol - nice try trolling but at least try and get some facts straight. Coming from Stanford in Cali, Hopkins has a far stellar reputation than many ivies save for HYPS due to its STEM prowess (which are bad at dartmouth and brown and deficient from a penn engineering perspective). And yea, way off on the playoff games "many years" as pointed out by others.DTTMT2018 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:13 pm New to fanlax posting, but have been an avid reader for years. During that time, I've casually observed the activity on this particular forum and have noted the intensity with which JHU fans care about their lax team (often admiringly, often with a degree of shock, looking at you Wilkins Dismuke). But I've been thinking recently...
At what point does JHU stop being the top tier men's lax program that it has been for all these years and move to the second tier of programs in the realm of Towson, Villanova, Marquette, etc? I think in the past, hs recruits were (and many still are) wowed by the history and high profile nature of the program, not to mention the success year after year on the field. That profile, combined with the academics, made it THE place to go for the best recruits in the country.
Recently though, recruiting has fallen by the wayside compared to what it once was, the team hasn't won an NCAA playoff game in years, and it seems like other schools are becoming viable alternatives to JHU's mix of academics and athletics. For example, Penn and Yale 10-20 years ago wouldn't have dreamed of pulling the caliber of recruits that JHU, Maryland, and ACC teams did, but nowadays, they certainly are, just look at Yale's recruiting class next year. I'm thinking of the type of kid in HS that is a good student, but also very talented on the field. Why wouldn't he go Ivy (maybe excluding Dartmouth) if he knows the recent success of Yale, Penn, Cornell on the national stage over JHU??? What does JHU offer that those programs don't. I'm sure people on this page will say Hopkins is a great school, and it is, but it doesn't have the reputation of the Ivys/Duke/UVa.
Also, I've had conversations with several former JHU players who have made the claim that when comparing their social experiences at JHU to the experiences of peers at Big10, Ivy, ACC schools, they don't really compare. This is obviously hard to give real value to as a highschooler, but it certainly evident upon arrival at college and in post-grad life.
I think that the issue with this program is less a function of Petro and more a function of the evolving landscape in college lax. I'm ready for someone to prove me wrong, or for JHU to go on a huge run to make me look like an idiot, but again I pose the question: when (if ever) does JHU turn into a second tier program?
Sagittarius A* wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:09 am Homewood Field is going to be like the Roman Colosseum tomorrow afternoon.
Though it should raise eyebrows but this game isn't even being shown live but on tape delay on Sunday. It is available to stream but it is likely determined that Hopkins isn't holding up their end of the bargain.Sagittarius A* wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:09 am Homewood Field is going to be like the Roman Colosseum tomorrow afternoon.
It should not raise eyebrows. This game hasn't been live on "actual TV" (as opposed to streaming) in years. It has absolutely nothing to do with Hop's current season. These decisions are made each year well in advance of any games being played.steel_hop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:37 amThough it should raise eyebrows but this game isn't even being shown live but on tape delay on Sunday. It is available to stream but it is likely determined that Hopkins isn't holding up their end of the bargain.Sagittarius A* wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:09 am Homewood Field is going to be like the Roman Colosseum tomorrow afternoon.
Yep, for all intents and purposes there is no difference between streaming on ESPN3 and live on ESPNU anymore. You just have to be quick on the mute button when it goes to break otherwise you will be able to recite the one or two repeat commercials they play from memory at the end of the game.HopFan16 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:54 amIt should not raise eyebrows. This game hasn't been live on "actual TV" (as opposed to streaming) in years. It has absolutely nothing to do with Hop's current season. These decisions are made each year well in advance of any games being played.steel_hop wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:37 amThough it should raise eyebrows but this game isn't even being shown live but on tape delay on Sunday. It is available to stream but it is likely determined that Hopkins isn't holding up their end of the bargain.Sagittarius A* wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:09 am Homewood Field is going to be like the Roman Colosseum tomorrow afternoon.
Catbird is correct. There is very little room for a lacrosse game on TV on a weekend in March. We should be thankful it's available to stream at all. Not that the distinction even matters much anyway. It's 2020. People should know how to get a game on the ESPN app onto their TV sets. The production values are the exact same as if it were on ESPNU. (Sorry to the Quint haters—he is calling this weekend's game with Anish.)
Will Petro get the thumbs up or thumbs down?!Sagittarius A* wrote: ↑Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:09 am Homewood Field is going to be like the Roman Colosseum tomorrow afternoon.