The intelligence community BRIEFED Bernie Sanders about Russian election interference but they got a FISA warrant and investigated Trump for the same thing. That seems fair and balanced.
Trump and Bernie both got briefed.
Trump shot the DNI messenger. Bernie said this: “My message to Putin is clear: Stay out of American elections, and as president I will make sure that you do."
Yeah -- same thing.
Is Bernie's campaign staff scheduling meetings with Russian lawyers to talk about adoption?
I don't think they're building any towers in Moscow either, much less insisting on changes in the Democrat platform...but, hey, who knows, maybe Bernie will deny that the Russians are trying to do anything on his behalf, it's really Ukraine that's interfering...
The intelligence community BRIEFED Bernie Sanders about Russian election interference but they got a FISA warrant and investigated Trump for the same thing. That seems fair and balanced.
Trump and Bernie both got briefed.
Trump shot the DNI messenger. Bernie said this: “My message to Putin is clear: Stay out of American elections, and as president I will make sure that you do."
Yeah -- same thing.
Is Bernie's campaign staff scheduling meetings with Russian lawyers to talk about adoption?
I don't think they're building any towers in Moscow either, much less insisting on changes in the Democrat platform...but, hey, who knows, maybe Bernie will deny that the Russians are trying to do anything on his behalf, it's really Ukraine that's interfering...
Has Bernie said what the 2020 DNC platform should say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
Tell us MDLF76 -- what did the 2016 DNC platform say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
How'd it compare to the RNC platform, both draft & final versions ?
Bernie's staunch support for Ukraine when Russia annexed the Crimea in 2014.
The intelligence community BRIEFED Bernie Sanders about Russian election interference but they got a FISA warrant and investigated Trump for the same thing. That seems fair and balanced.
Trump and Bernie both got briefed.
Trump shot the DNI messenger. Bernie said this: “My message to Putin is clear: Stay out of American elections, and as president I will make sure that you do."
Yeah -- same thing.
Is Bernie's campaign staff scheduling meetings with Russian lawyers to talk about adoption?
I don't think they're building any towers in Moscow either, much less insisting on changes in the Democrat platform...but, hey, who knows, maybe Bernie will deny that the Russians are trying to do anything on his behalf, it's really Ukraine that's interfering...
Has Bernie said what the 2020 DNC platform should say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
Tell us MDLF76 -- what did the 2016 DNC platform say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
How'd it compare to the RNC platform, both draft & final versions ?
Bernie's staunch support for Ukraine when Russia annexed the Crimea in 2014.
Let’s worry about that when Bernie is POTUS like Trump. Better yet, he will be duly elected,
The intelligence community BRIEFED Bernie Sanders about Russian election interference but they got a FISA warrant and investigated Trump for the same thing. That seems fair and balanced.
Trump and Bernie both got briefed.
Trump shot the DNI messenger. Bernie said this: “My message to Putin is clear: Stay out of American elections, and as president I will make sure that you do."
Yeah -- same thing.
Is Bernie's campaign staff scheduling meetings with Russian lawyers to talk about adoption?
I don't think they're building any towers in Moscow either, much less insisting on changes in the Democrat platform...but, hey, who knows, maybe Bernie will deny that the Russians are trying to do anything on his behalf, it's really Ukraine that's interfering...
Has Bernie said what the 2020 DNC platform should say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
Tell us MDLF76 -- what did the 2016 DNC platform say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
How'd it compare to the RNC platform, both draft & final versions ?
Bernie's staunch support for Ukraine when Russia annexed the Crimea in 2014.
Let’s worry about that when Bernie is POTUS like Trump. Better yet, he will be duly elected,
What, you worry ? Our allies the Ukrainians are fighting the Russians over there, so we don't have to fight them over here.
The intelligence community BRIEFED Bernie Sanders about Russian election interference but they got a FISA warrant and investigated Trump for the same thing. That seems fair and balanced.
Trump and Bernie both got briefed.
Trump shot the DNI messenger. Bernie said this: “My message to Putin is clear: Stay out of American elections, and as president I will make sure that you do."
Yeah -- same thing.
Is Bernie's campaign staff scheduling meetings with Russian lawyers to talk about adoption?
I don't think they're building any towers in Moscow either, much less insisting on changes in the Democrat platform...but, hey, who knows, maybe Bernie will deny that the Russians are trying to do anything on his behalf, it's really Ukraine that's interfering...
Has Bernie said what the 2020 DNC platform should say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
Tell us MDLF76 -- what did the 2016 DNC platform say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
How'd it compare to the RNC platform, both draft & final versions ?
Bernie's staunch support for Ukraine when Russia annexed the Crimea in 2014.
Let’s worry about that when Bernie is POTUS like Trump. Better yet, he will be duly elected,
What, you worry ? Our allies the Ukrainians are fighting the Russians over there, so we don't have to fight them over here.
See my reply to your other post
Re: 2020 Elections - More Cheating from IMPOTUS?
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:30 am
by jhu72
There is no difficulty in understanding why the Rooskies would work to support Trump and Bernie. Both are divisive choices given current sentiments of the American voter. Trump winning would be their preference. Bernie winning would continue to antagonize one side of the political divide.
The intelligence community BRIEFED Bernie Sanders about Russian election interference but they got a FISA warrant and investigated Trump for the same thing. That seems fair and balanced.
Trump and Bernie both got briefed.
Trump shot the DNI messenger. Bernie said this: “My message to Putin is clear: Stay out of American elections, and as president I will make sure that you do."
Yeah -- same thing.
Is Bernie's campaign staff scheduling meetings with Russian lawyers to talk about adoption?
I don't think they're building any towers in Moscow either, much less insisting on changes in the Democrat platform...but, hey, who knows, maybe Bernie will deny that the Russians are trying to do anything on his behalf, it's really Ukraine that's interfering...
Has Bernie said what the 2020 DNC platform should say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
Tell us MDLF76 -- what did the 2016 DNC platform say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
How'd it compare to the RNC platform, both draft & final versions ?
Bernie's staunch support for Ukraine when Russia annexed the Crimea in 2014.
I take it that you're now a Bernie supporter, after all, if Putin supports him, that should be good enough for you, right?
Isolationist, wants to end all 'endless wars', withdraw from ME...perfect for you and Vlad, right?
As I'm not in the least bit a Bernie supporter, I have no difficulty imagining that he'd be softer on Russia than lots of other candidates. On the other hand, we absolutely know that Trump is a disaster and will be only worse in a second term, so if Bernie is the Dem candidate in the general, we'll be back to a binary choice and I'll go Dem for the very first time in more than 4 decades of voting. I'll hold my nose and, if elected, hope (as we did with Trump) that Bernie hires decent folks and that he's frustrated in getting his most extreme policy prescriptions achieved.
The intelligence community BRIEFED Bernie Sanders about Russian election interference but they got a FISA warrant and investigated Trump for the same thing. That seems fair and balanced.
I don't think they're building any towers in Moscow either, much less insisting on changes in the Democrat platform...but, hey, who knows, maybe Bernie will deny that the Russians are trying to do anything on his behalf, it's really Ukraine that's interfering...
Has Bernie said what the 2020 DNC platform should say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
Tell us MDLF76 -- what did the 2016 DNC platform say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
How'd it compare to the RNC platform, both draft & final versions ?
Bernie's staunch support for Ukraine when Russia annexed the Crimea in 2014.
I take it that you're now a Bernie supporter, after all, if Putin supports him, that should be good enough for you, right?
Isolationist, wants to end all 'endless wars', withdraw from ME...perfect for you and Vlad, right?
As I'm not in the least bit a Bernie supporter, I have no difficulty imagining that he'd be softer on Russia than lots of other candidates. On the other hand, we absolutely know that Trump is a disaster and will be only worse in a second term, so if Bernie is the Dem candidate in the general, we'll be back to a binary choice and I'll go Dem for the very first time in more than 4 decades of voting. I'll hold my nose and, if elected, hope (as we did with Trump) that Bernie hires decent folks and that he's frustrated in getting his most extreme policy prescriptions achieved.
Wait a second. I thought you said you'd support anybody who might beat Trump.
Do you think our NATO allies threatened by Russia, like Poland & the Baltics, prefer Bernie to Trump ?
Typical of your perverted logic that you would conclude I'm a Bernie supporter when I challenge you for still clinging to the disproven Ukrainian RNC platform plank as evidence of Trump-Russia collusion.
Apparently you don't even know what the 2016 DNC platform said about military aid to Ukraine.
I would hope that right minded NeoCon GOP Never Trumpers, such as you, are terrified that the (D) front runner does not support the Ukrainians who are defending us from the Rooskies --they'll soon be moving to retake their dacha on the E shore. They've already inserted little green people posing as seasonal workers Downy Oshun.
The intelligence community BRIEFED Bernie Sanders about Russian election interference but they got a FISA warrant and investigated Trump for the same thing. That seems fair and balanced.
I don't think they're building any towers in Moscow either, much less insisting on changes in the Democrat platform...but, hey, who knows, maybe Bernie will deny that the Russians are trying to do anything on his behalf, it's really Ukraine that's interfering...
Has Bernie said what the 2020 DNC platform should say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
Tell us MDLF76 -- what did the 2016 DNC platform say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
How'd it compare to the RNC platform, both draft & final versions ?
Bernie's staunch support for Ukraine when Russia annexed the Crimea in 2014.
I take it that you're now a Bernie supporter, after all, if Putin supports him, that should be good enough for you, right?
Isolationist, wants to end all 'endless wars', withdraw from ME...perfect for you and Vlad, right?
As I'm not in the least bit a Bernie supporter, I have no difficulty imagining that he'd be softer on Russia than lots of other candidates. On the other hand, we absolutely know that Trump is a disaster and will be only worse in a second term, so if Bernie is the Dem candidate in the general, we'll be back to a binary choice and I'll go Dem for the very first time in more than 4 decades of voting. I'll hold my nose and, if elected, hope (as we did with Trump) that Bernie hires decent folks and that he's frustrated in getting his most extreme policy prescriptions achieved.
Wait a second. I thought you said you'd support anybody who might beat Trump.
Do you think our NATO allies threatened by Russia, like Poland & the Baltics, prefer Bernie to Trump ?
Typical of your perverted logic that you would conclude I'm a Bernie supporter when I challenge you for still clinging to the disproven Ukrainian RNC platform plank as evidence of Trump-Russia collusion.
Apparently you don't even know what the 2016 DNC platform said about military aid to Ukraine.
I would hope that right minded NeoCon GOP Never Trumpers, such as you, are terrified that the (D) front runner does not support the Ukrainians who are defending us from the Rooskies --they'll soon be moving to retake their dacha on the E shore. They've already inserted little green people posing as seasonal workers Downy Oshun.
Yup, make fun of the threat posed by Putin, that's what you do...along with OANN and Trump, you guys think ol'Vlad's a swell fella.
"disproven"??? where was anything actually "disproven'?
I have zero idea whether anyone in Eastern Europe prefers Bernie over Trump, they're both bozos on this topic in my book. It doesn't surprise me, that other than Tulsi, Vlad's choice on the Dem side would be Bernie...after all, he's the least likely to actually beat Trump, and heck, if he does, it's not the end of the world for Vlad given that Bernie's an isolationist, get out of the ME guy too...just like Trump and you.
I just think Trump's worse than just a bozo, he's bought and sold.
But Bernie's views seem to align with yours as well, which is why you say you're ok with Trump and support him at every turn, so why not Bernie?
The intelligence community BRIEFED Bernie Sanders about Russian election interference but they got a FISA warrant and investigated Trump for the same thing. That seems fair and balanced.
I don't think they're building any towers in Moscow either, much less insisting on changes in the Democrat platform...but, hey, who knows, maybe Bernie will deny that the Russians are trying to do anything on his behalf, it's really Ukraine that's interfering...
Has Bernie said what the 2020 DNC platform should say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
Tell us MDLF76 -- what did the 2016 DNC platform say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
How'd it compare to the RNC platform, both draft & final versions ?
Bernie's staunch support for Ukraine when Russia annexed the Crimea in 2014.
I take it that you're now a Bernie supporter, after all, if Putin supports him, that should be good enough for you, right?
Isolationist, wants to end all 'endless wars', withdraw from ME...perfect for you and Vlad, right?
As I'm not in the least bit a Bernie supporter, I have no difficulty imagining that he'd be softer on Russia than lots of other candidates. On the other hand, we absolutely know that Trump is a disaster and will be only worse in a second term, so if Bernie is the Dem candidate in the general, we'll be back to a binary choice and I'll go Dem for the very first time in more than 4 decades of voting. I'll hold my nose and, if elected, hope (as we did with Trump) that Bernie hires decent folks and that he's frustrated in getting his most extreme policy prescriptions achieved.
Wait a second. I thought you said you'd support anybody who might beat Trump.
Do you think our NATO allies threatened by Russia, like Poland & the Baltics, prefer Bernie to Trump ?
Typical of your perverted logic that you would conclude I'm a Bernie supporter when I challenge you for still clinging to the disproven Ukrainian RNC platform plank as evidence of Trump-Russia collusion.
Apparently you don't even know what the 2016 DNC platform said about military aid to Ukraine.
I would hope that right minded NeoCon GOP Never Trumpers, such as you, are terrified that the (D) front runner does not support the Ukrainians who are defending us from the Rooskies --they'll soon be moving to retake their dacha on the E shore. They've already inserted little green people posing as seasonal workers Downy Oshun.
Yup, make fun of the threat posed by Putin, that's what you do...along with OANN and Trump, you guys think ol'Vlad's a swell fella.
"disproven"??? where was anything actually "disproven'?
I have zero idea whether anyone in Eastern Europe prefers Bernie over Trump, they're both bozos on this topic in my book. It doesn't surprise me, that other than Tulsi, Vlad's choice on the Dem side would be Bernie...after all, he's the least likely to actually beat Trump, and heck, if he does, it's not the end of the world for Vlad given that Bernie's an isolationist, get out of the ME guy too...just like Trump and you.
I just think Trump's worse than just a bozo, he's bought and sold.
But Bernie's views seem to align with yours as well, which is why you say you're ok with Trump and support him at every turn, so why not Bernie?
The intelligence community BRIEFED Bernie Sanders about Russian election interference but they got a FISA warrant and investigated Trump for the same thing. That seems fair and balanced.
I don't think they're building any towers in Moscow either, much less insisting on changes in the Democrat platform...but, hey, who knows, maybe Bernie will deny that the Russians are trying to do anything on his behalf, it's really Ukraine that's interfering...
Has Bernie said what the 2020 DNC platform should say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
Tell us MDLF76 -- what did the 2016 DNC platform say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
How'd it compare to the RNC platform, both draft & final versions ?
Bernie's staunch support for Ukraine when Russia annexed the Crimea in 2014.
I take it that you're now a Bernie supporter, after all, if Putin supports him, that should be good enough for you, right?
Isolationist, wants to end all 'endless wars', withdraw from ME...perfect for you and Vlad, right?
As I'm not in the least bit a Bernie supporter, I have no difficulty imagining that he'd be softer on Russia than lots of other candidates. On the other hand, we absolutely know that Trump is a disaster and will be only worse in a second term, so if Bernie is the Dem candidate in the general, we'll be back to a binary choice and I'll go Dem for the very first time in more than 4 decades of voting. I'll hold my nose and, if elected, hope (as we did with Trump) that Bernie hires decent folks and that he's frustrated in getting his most extreme policy prescriptions achieved.
Wait a second. I thought you said you'd support anybody who might beat Trump.
Do you think our NATO allies threatened by Russia, like Poland & the Baltics, prefer Bernie to Trump ?
Typical of your perverted logic that you would conclude I'm a Bernie supporter when I challenge you for still clinging to the disproven Ukrainian RNC platform plank as evidence of Trump-Russia collusion.
Apparently you don't even know what the 2016 DNC platform said about military aid to Ukraine.
I would hope that right minded NeoCon GOP Never Trumpers, such as you, are terrified that the (D) front runner does not support the Ukrainians who are defending us from the Rooskies --they'll soon be moving to retake their dacha on the E shore. They've already inserted little green people posing as seasonal workers Downy Oshun.
Yup, make fun of the threat posed by Putin, that's what you do...along with OANN and Trump, you guys think ol'Vlad's a swell fella.
"disproven"??? where was anything actually "disproven'?
I have zero idea whether anyone in Eastern Europe prefers Bernie over Trump, they're both bozos on this topic in my book. It doesn't surprise me, that other than Tulsi, Vlad's choice on the Dem side would be Bernie...after all, he's the least likely to actually beat Trump, and heck, if he does, it's not the end of the world for Vlad given that Bernie's an isolationist, get out of the ME guy too...just like Trump and you.
I just think Trump's worse than just a bozo, he's bought and sold.
But Bernie's views seem to align with yours as well, which is why you say you're ok with Trump and support him at every turn, so why not Bernie?
You won’t get a straight answer.
Why reply to TDS fevered babbling. I've never said anything remotely supportive of Bernie.
I find him amusing. I am enjoying watching the Dems come to grips with the prospect that their front runner is an isolationist & a socialist.
It's really funny watching the homina-homina-homina of never-Trumper (R}'s who've pledged to support & vote for anyone but Trump.
The intelligence community BRIEFED Bernie Sanders about Russian election interference but they got a FISA warrant and investigated Trump for the same thing. That seems fair and balanced.
I don't think they're building any towers in Moscow either, much less insisting on changes in the Democrat platform...but, hey, who knows, maybe Bernie will deny that the Russians are trying to do anything on his behalf, it's really Ukraine that's interfering...
Has Bernie said what the 2020 DNC platform should say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
Tell us MDLF76 -- what did the 2016 DNC platform say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
How'd it compare to the RNC platform, both draft & final versions ?
Bernie's staunch support for Ukraine when Russia annexed the Crimea in 2014.
I take it that you're now a Bernie supporter, after all, if Putin supports him, that should be good enough for you, right?
Isolationist, wants to end all 'endless wars', withdraw from ME...perfect for you and Vlad, right?
As I'm not in the least bit a Bernie supporter, I have no difficulty imagining that he'd be softer on Russia than lots of other candidates. On the other hand, we absolutely know that Trump is a disaster and will be only worse in a second term, so if Bernie is the Dem candidate in the general, we'll be back to a binary choice and I'll go Dem for the very first time in more than 4 decades of voting. I'll hold my nose and, if elected, hope (as we did with Trump) that Bernie hires decent folks and that he's frustrated in getting his most extreme policy prescriptions achieved.
Wait a second. I thought you said you'd support anybody who might beat Trump.
Do you think our NATO allies threatened by Russia, like Poland & the Baltics, prefer Bernie to Trump ?
Typical of your perverted logic that you would conclude I'm a Bernie supporter when I challenge you for still clinging to the disproven Ukrainian RNC platform plank as evidence of Trump-Russia collusion.
Apparently you don't even know what the 2016 DNC platform said about military aid to Ukraine.
I would hope that right minded NeoCon GOP Never Trumpers, such as you, are terrified that the (D) front runner does not support the Ukrainians who are defending us from the Rooskies --they'll soon be moving to retake their dacha on the E shore. They've already inserted little green people posing as seasonal workers Downy Oshun.
Yup, make fun of the threat posed by Putin, that's what you do...along with OANN and Trump, you guys think ol'Vlad's a swell fella.
"disproven"??? where was anything actually "disproven'?
I have zero idea whether anyone in Eastern Europe prefers Bernie over Trump, they're both bozos on this topic in my book. It doesn't surprise me, that other than Tulsi, Vlad's choice on the Dem side would be Bernie...after all, he's the least likely to actually beat Trump, and heck, if he does, it's not the end of the world for Vlad given that Bernie's an isolationist, get out of the ME guy too...just like Trump and you.
I just think Trump's worse than just a bozo, he's bought and sold.
But Bernie's views seem to align with yours as well, which is why you say you're ok with Trump and support him at every turn, so why not Bernie?
You won’t get a straight answer.
Why reply to TDS fevered babbling. I've never said anything remotely supportive of Bernie.
I find him amusing. I am enjoying watching the Dems come to grips with the prospect that their front runner is an isolationist & a socialist.
It's really funny watching the humana-humana-humana of never-Trumper (R}'s who've pledged to support & vote for anyone but Trump.
The intelligence community BRIEFED Bernie Sanders about Russian election interference but they got a FISA warrant and investigated Trump for the same thing. That seems fair and balanced.
I don't think they're building any towers in Moscow either, much less insisting on changes in the Democrat platform...but, hey, who knows, maybe Bernie will deny that the Russians are trying to do anything on his behalf, it's really Ukraine that's interfering...
Has Bernie said what the 2020 DNC platform should say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
Tell us MDLF76 -- what did the 2016 DNC platform say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
How'd it compare to the RNC platform, both draft & final versions ?
Bernie's staunch support for Ukraine when Russia annexed the Crimea in 2014.
I take it that you're now a Bernie supporter, after all, if Putin supports him, that should be good enough for you, right?
Isolationist, wants to end all 'endless wars', withdraw from ME...perfect for you and Vlad, right?
As I'm not in the least bit a Bernie supporter, I have no difficulty imagining that he'd be softer on Russia than lots of other candidates. On the other hand, we absolutely know that Trump is a disaster and will be only worse in a second term, so if Bernie is the Dem candidate in the general, we'll be back to a binary choice and I'll go Dem for the very first time in more than 4 decades of voting. I'll hold my nose and, if elected, hope (as we did with Trump) that Bernie hires decent folks and that he's frustrated in getting his most extreme policy prescriptions achieved.
Wait a second. I thought you said you'd support anybody who might beat Trump.
Do you think our NATO allies threatened by Russia, like Poland & the Baltics, prefer Bernie to Trump ?
Typical of your perverted logic that you would conclude I'm a Bernie supporter when I challenge you for still clinging to the disproven Ukrainian RNC platform plank as evidence of Trump-Russia collusion.
Apparently you don't even know what the 2016 DNC platform said about military aid to Ukraine.
I would hope that right minded NeoCon GOP Never Trumpers, such as you, are terrified that the (D) front runner does not support the Ukrainians who are defending us from the Rooskies --they'll soon be moving to retake their dacha on the E shore. They've already inserted little green people posing as seasonal workers Downy Oshun.
Yup, make fun of the threat posed by Putin, that's what you do...along with OANN and Trump, you guys think ol'Vlad's a swell fella.
"disproven"??? where was anything actually "disproven'?
I have zero idea whether anyone in Eastern Europe prefers Bernie over Trump, they're both bozos on this topic in my book. It doesn't surprise me, that other than Tulsi, Vlad's choice on the Dem side would be Bernie...after all, he's the least likely to actually beat Trump, and heck, if he does, it's not the end of the world for Vlad given that Bernie's an isolationist, get out of the ME guy too...just like Trump and you.
I just think Trump's worse than just a bozo, he's bought and sold.
But Bernie's views seem to align with yours as well, which is why you say you're ok with Trump and support him at every turn, so why not Bernie?
You won’t get a straight answer.
Why reply to TDS fevered babbling. I've never said anything remotely supportive of Bernie.
I find him amusing. I am enjoying watching the Dems come to grips with the prospect that their front runner is an isolationist & a socialist.
It's really funny watching the humana-humana-humana of never-Trumper (R}'s who've pledged to support & vote for anyone but Trump.
You never let me down.
Salty's answer reveals what we've long suspected, his attraction to Trump and Trumpism isn't actually because of the foreign policy, isolationist alignment he purports to have with Trump. Else Bernie would be attractive to him as well.
Nope, it's much more than that.
Salty's grievances with the "Deep State" and the appeal of right wing authoritarianism....
The intelligence community BRIEFED Bernie Sanders about Russian election interference but they got a FISA warrant and investigated Trump for the same thing. That seems fair and balanced.
Trump and Bernie both got briefed.
Trump shot the DNI messenger. Bernie said this: “My message to Putin is clear: Stay out of American elections, and as president I will make sure that you do."
Yeah -- same thing.
Is Bernie's campaign staff scheduling meetings with Russian lawyers to talk about adoption?
I'm talking about 2016. Trump was never given the courtesy of a briefing. He was investigated.
Re: 2020 Elections - More Cheating from IMPOTUS?
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:30 am
by ggait
Come on Six; stop pee-ing on my leg.
Trump was briefed by the FBI in the summer of 2016 before he secured the nomination. Told to report any foreign overtures to the FBI.
Hilary got the exact same briefing at the exact same time. All presumptive nominees get briefed as SOP.
Obviously, the Trumpsters didn't follow the rules. Like everyone else did.
Hence the last 3.5 years.
Re: 2020 Elections - More Cheating from IMPOTUS?
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:50 am
by 6ftstick
ggait wrote: ↑Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:30 am
Come on Six; stop pee-ing on my leg.
Trump was briefed by the FBI in the summer of 2016 before he secured the nomination. Told to report any foreign overtures to the FBI.
Hilary got the exact same briefing at the exact same time. All presumptive nominees get briefed as SOP.
Obviously, the Trumpsters didn't follow the rules. Like everyone else did.
Hence the last 3.5 years.
With Trump, the situation was unique because the FBI was conducting a counterintelligence investigation into his campaign while it was warning him about Russia.
"They likely would not be so specific as to outline the things they are seeing, because they don't want to blow their investigation," Campbell said. "But it is incumbent upon the intelligence community to provide both candidates with a baseline level of what the threat is and how to protect against those threats. "
These initial briefings are meant to establish a working relationship, and officials from both campaigns would likely be told to reach out to the FBI if they sensed anything suspicious, Campbell added.
CNN's Evan Perez and Laura Jarrett contributed to this report.
Re: 2020 Elections - More Cheating from IMPOTUS?
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:04 am
by ggait
Six -- if there is current reason for Bernie to be investigated, I would hope/expect the FBI to be doing that. And not to tell Bernie he's being investigated. Because you can't have much of an investigation after you tell people they are being investigated, right?
Since when does the FBI do that? Exactly why should the FBI do that? Where else does the FBI do that?
The intelligence community BRIEFED Bernie Sanders about Russian election interference but they got a FISA warrant and investigated Trump for the same thing. That seems fair and balanced.
I don't think they're building any towers in Moscow either, much less insisting on changes in the Democrat platform...but, hey, who knows, maybe Bernie will deny that the Russians are trying to do anything on his behalf, it's really Ukraine that's interfering...
Has Bernie said what the 2020 DNC platform should say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
Tell us MDLF76 -- what did the 2016 DNC platform say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
How'd it compare to the RNC platform, both draft & final versions ?
Bernie's staunch support for Ukraine when Russia annexed the Crimea in 2014.
I take it that you're now a Bernie supporter, after all, if Putin supports him, that should be good enough for you, right?
Isolationist, wants to end all 'endless wars', withdraw from ME...perfect for you and Vlad, right?
As I'm not in the least bit a Bernie supporter, I have no difficulty imagining that he'd be softer on Russia than lots of other candidates. On the other hand, we absolutely know that Trump is a disaster and will be only worse in a second term, so if Bernie is the Dem candidate in the general, we'll be back to a binary choice and I'll go Dem for the very first time in more than 4 decades of voting. I'll hold my nose and, if elected, hope (as we did with Trump) that Bernie hires decent folks and that he's frustrated in getting his most extreme policy prescriptions achieved.
Wait a second. I thought you said you'd support anybody who might beat Trump.
Do you think our NATO allies threatened by Russia, like Poland & the Baltics, prefer Bernie to Trump ?
Typical of your perverted logic that you would conclude I'm a Bernie supporter when I challenge you for still clinging to the disproven Ukrainian RNC platform plank as evidence of Trump-Russia collusion.
Apparently you don't even know what the 2016 DNC platform said about military aid to Ukraine.
I would hope that right minded NeoCon GOP Never Trumpers, such as you, are terrified that the (D) front runner does not support the Ukrainians who are defending us from the Rooskies --they'll soon be moving to retake their dacha on the E shore. They've already inserted little green people posing as seasonal workers Downy Oshun.
Yup, make fun of the threat posed by Putin, that's what you do...along with OANN and Trump, you guys think ol'Vlad's a swell fella.
"disproven"??? where was anything actually "disproven'?
I have zero idea whether anyone in Eastern Europe prefers Bernie over Trump, they're both bozos on this topic in my book. It doesn't surprise me, that other than Tulsi, Vlad's choice on the Dem side would be Bernie...after all, he's the least likely to actually beat Trump, and heck, if he does, it's not the end of the world for Vlad given that Bernie's an isolationist, get out of the ME guy too...just like Trump and you.
I just think Trump's worse than just a bozo, he's bought and sold.
But Bernie's views seem to align with yours as well, which is why you say you're ok with Trump and support him at every turn, so why not Bernie?
You won’t get a straight answer.
Why reply to TDS fevered babbling. I've never said anything remotely supportive of Bernie.
I find him amusing. I am enjoying watching the Dems come to grips with the prospect that their front runner is an isolationist & a socialist.
It's really funny watching the humana-humana-humana of never-Trumper (R}'s who've pledged to support & vote for anyone but Trump.
You never let me down.
Salty's answer reveals what we've long suspected, his attraction to Trump and Trumpism isn't actually because of the foreign policy, isolationist alignment he purports to have with Trump. Else Bernie would be attractive to him as well.
Nope, it's much more than that.
Salty's grievances with the "Deep State" and the appeal of right wing authoritarianism....
.. ...yes Tailgunner Joe, your suspicions are quite revealing, ...of you.
Trump's "isolationism" is not really isolationism. It's pragmatism. He has strengthened our military & forced our allies to contribute more to our shared defense. He has increased our force levels confronting & containing Russia. Combat power withdrawning from the ME is being shifted to W Pac to confront & contain China. He has restructured our presence in the ME to be more defensive, rather than offensive. Trump wants to reduce our grinding stalemate combat presence in the ME. Our forces there now are at much lower risk. After 3 years of Trump, what has been the impact of his isolationism, beyond getting our allies to invest more in their own military forces ?
When Bernie says he intends to bring our troops home, he really means it. ...& his energy policy is magical thinking.
The intelligence community BRIEFED Bernie Sanders about Russian election interference but they got a FISA warrant and investigated Trump for the same thing. That seems fair and balanced.
I don't think they're building any towers in Moscow either, much less insisting on changes in the Democrat platform...but, hey, who knows, maybe Bernie will deny that the Russians are trying to do anything on his behalf, it's really Ukraine that's interfering...
Has Bernie said what the 2020 DNC platform should say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
Tell us MDLF76 -- what did the 2016 DNC platform say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
How'd it compare to the RNC platform, both draft & final versions ?
Bernie's staunch support for Ukraine when Russia annexed the Crimea in 2014.
I take it that you're now a Bernie supporter, after all, if Putin supports him, that should be good enough for you, right?
Isolationist, wants to end all 'endless wars', withdraw from ME...perfect for you and Vlad, right?
As I'm not in the least bit a Bernie supporter, I have no difficulty imagining that he'd be softer on Russia than lots of other candidates. On the other hand, we absolutely know that Trump is a disaster and will be only worse in a second term, so if Bernie is the Dem candidate in the general, we'll be back to a binary choice and I'll go Dem for the very first time in more than 4 decades of voting. I'll hold my nose and, if elected, hope (as we did with Trump) that Bernie hires decent folks and that he's frustrated in getting his most extreme policy prescriptions achieved.
Wait a second. I thought you said you'd support anybody who might beat Trump.
Do you think our NATO allies threatened by Russia, like Poland & the Baltics, prefer Bernie to Trump ?
Typical of your perverted logic that you would conclude I'm a Bernie supporter when I challenge you for still clinging to the disproven Ukrainian RNC platform plank as evidence of Trump-Russia collusion.
Apparently you don't even know what the 2016 DNC platform said about military aid to Ukraine.
I would hope that right minded NeoCon GOP Never Trumpers, such as you, are terrified that the (D) front runner does not support the Ukrainians who are defending us from the Rooskies --they'll soon be moving to retake their dacha on the E shore. They've already inserted little green people posing as seasonal workers Downy Oshun.
Yup, make fun of the threat posed by Putin, that's what you do...along with OANN and Trump, you guys think ol'Vlad's a swell fella.
"disproven"??? where was anything actually "disproven'?
I have zero idea whether anyone in Eastern Europe prefers Bernie over Trump, they're both bozos on this topic in my book. It doesn't surprise me, that other than Tulsi, Vlad's choice on the Dem side would be Bernie...after all, he's the least likely to actually beat Trump, and heck, if he does, it's not the end of the world for Vlad given that Bernie's an isolationist, get out of the ME guy too...just like Trump and you.
I just think Trump's worse than just a bozo, he's bought and sold.
But Bernie's views seem to align with yours as well, which is why you say you're ok with Trump and support him at every turn, so why not Bernie?
You won’t get a straight answer.
Why reply to TDS fevered babbling. I've never said anything remotely supportive of Bernie.
I find him amusing. I am enjoying watching the Dems come to grips with the prospect that their front runner is an isolationist & a socialist.
It's really funny watching the humana-humana-humana of never-Trumper (R}'s who've pledged to support & vote for anyone but Trump.
You never let me down.
Salty's answer reveals what we've long suspected, his attraction to Trump and Trumpism isn't actually because of the foreign policy, isolationist alignment he purports to have with Trump. Else Bernie would be attractive to him as well.
Nope, it's much more than that.
Salty's grievances with the "Deep State" and the appeal of right wing authoritarianism....
.. ...yes Tailgunner Joe, your suspicions are quite revealing, ...of you.
Trump's "isolationism" is not really isolationism. It's pragmatism. He has strengthened our military & forced our allies to contribute more to our shared defense. He has increased our force levels confronting & containing Russia. Combat power withdrawning from the ME is being shifted to W Pac to confront & contain China. He has restructured our presence in the ME to be more defensive, rather than offensive. Trump wants to reduce our grinding stalemate combat presence in the ME. Our forces there now are at much lower risk. After 3 years of Trump, what has been the impact of his isolationism, beyond getting our allies to invest more in their own military forces ?
When Bernie says he intends to bring our troops home, he really means it. ...& his energy policy is magical thinking.
After all our debates about "isolationism", you are now saying you are for "pragmatism" and not for isolationism???
good lord, I'll take that as a 'win'.
(Even if it's total BS that Trump has ANY such "pragmatism" policy himself beyond whatever he perceives in his own personal interest).
How about we do the same with "nationalism" while we're at it?
The intelligence community BRIEFED Bernie Sanders about Russian election interference but they got a FISA warrant and investigated Trump for the same thing. That seems fair and balanced.
I don't think they're building any towers in Moscow either, much less insisting on changes in the Democrat platform...but, hey, who knows, maybe Bernie will deny that the Russians are trying to do anything on his behalf, it's really Ukraine that's interfering...
Has Bernie said what the 2020 DNC platform should say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
Tell us MDLF76 -- what did the 2016 DNC platform say re. military aid to Ukraine ?
How'd it compare to the RNC platform, both draft & final versions ?
Bernie's staunch support for Ukraine when Russia annexed the Crimea in 2014.
I take it that you're now a Bernie supporter, after all, if Putin supports him, that should be good enough for you, right?
Isolationist, wants to end all 'endless wars', withdraw from ME...perfect for you and Vlad, right?
As I'm not in the least bit a Bernie supporter, I have no difficulty imagining that he'd be softer on Russia than lots of other candidates. On the other hand, we absolutely know that Trump is a disaster and will be only worse in a second term, so if Bernie is the Dem candidate in the general, we'll be back to a binary choice and I'll go Dem for the very first time in more than 4 decades of voting. I'll hold my nose and, if elected, hope (as we did with Trump) that Bernie hires decent folks and that he's frustrated in getting his most extreme policy prescriptions achieved.
Wait a second. I thought you said you'd support anybody who might beat Trump.
Do you think our NATO allies threatened by Russia, like Poland & the Baltics, prefer Bernie to Trump ?
Typical of your perverted logic that you would conclude I'm a Bernie supporter when I challenge you for still clinging to the disproven Ukrainian RNC platform plank as evidence of Trump-Russia collusion.
Apparently you don't even know what the 2016 DNC platform said about military aid to Ukraine.
I would hope that right minded NeoCon GOP Never Trumpers, such as you, are terrified that the (D) front runner does not support the Ukrainians who are defending us from the Rooskies --they'll soon be moving to retake their dacha on the E shore. They've already inserted little green people posing as seasonal workers Downy Oshun.
Yup, make fun of the threat posed by Putin, that's what you do...along with OANN and Trump, you guys think ol'Vlad's a swell fella.
"disproven"??? where was anything actually "disproven'?
I have zero idea whether anyone in Eastern Europe prefers Bernie over Trump, they're both bozos on this topic in my book. It doesn't surprise me, that other than Tulsi, Vlad's choice on the Dem side would be Bernie...after all, he's the least likely to actually beat Trump, and heck, if he does, it's not the end of the world for Vlad given that Bernie's an isolationist, get out of the ME guy too...just like Trump and you.
I just think Trump's worse than just a bozo, he's bought and sold.
But Bernie's views seem to align with yours as well, which is why you say you're ok with Trump and support him at every turn, so why not Bernie?
You won’t get a straight answer.
Why reply to TDS fevered babbling. I've never said anything remotely supportive of Bernie.
I find him amusing. I am enjoying watching the Dems come to grips with the prospect that their front runner is an isolationist & a socialist.
It's really funny watching the humana-humana-humana of never-Trumper (R}'s who've pledged to support & vote for anyone but Trump.
You never let me down.
Salty's answer reveals what we've long suspected, his attraction to Trump and Trumpism isn't actually because of the foreign policy, isolationist alignment he purports to have with Trump. Else Bernie would be attractive to him as well.
Nope, it's much more than that.
Salty's grievances with the "Deep State" and the appeal of right wing authoritarianism....
.. ...yes Tailgunner Joe, your suspicions are quite revealing, ...of you.
Trump's "isolationism" is not really isolationism. It's pragmatism. He has strengthened our military & forced our allies to contribute more to our shared defense. He has increased our force levels confronting & containing Russia. Combat power withdrawning from the ME is being shifted to W Pac to confront & contain China. He has restructured our presence in the ME to be more defensive, rather than offensive. Trump wants to reduce our grinding stalemate combat presence in the ME. Our forces there now are at much lower risk. After 3 years of Trump, what has been the impact of his isolationism, beyond getting our allies to invest more in their own military forces ?
When Bernie says he intends to bring our troops home, he really means it. ...& his energy policy is magical thinking.
After all our debates about "isolationism", you are now saying you are for "pragmatism" and not for isolationism???
good lord, I'll take that as a 'win'.
(Even if it's total BS that Trump has ANY such "pragmatism" policy himself beyond whatever he perceives in his own personal interest).
How about we do the same with "nationalism" while we're at it?
My version of pragmatic isolationism --
(1) exerting constant pressure on our allies to shoulder an increasing share of the burden of our common defense.
(2) leverage our allies to bear more or the cost of our forces forward deployed in their defense.
(3) as our allies accomplish (1) & (2) above, reduce our overseas presence, leaving a cadre of enablers & trainers to sustain our capability to operate jointly with our allies & to rapidly reinforce them in an emergency.
(4) encouraging our allies to assume more of a leadership role in their region. With the US becoming better followers & less assertive leaders in their regional issues.
(5) No more entry into, or expansion of, open ended alliances like NATO, which relieve allies of the responsibility of their own defense.
(6) Keep the sea lanes open & maintain the capability to project power globally.
(7) Give up on the fantasy that we can right every wrong in the world.
American Nationalism is a virtue that has no racial implications.
. ...yes Tailgunner Joe, your suspicions are quite revealing, ...of you.