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Re: Climate Change & The Environment: A Green New Deal

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This kind of potential has been in the works, long before wind turbines. The crux was how to actually utilize them safely and extract the energy to land. Hope it bears fruit, before one of those props kills an endangered species or a dolphin washes up on shore from getting butchered by the prop.
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youthathletics wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:46 am This kind of potential has been in the works, long before wind turbines. The crux was how to actually utilize them safely and extract the energy to land. Hope it bears fruit, before one of those props kills an endangered species or a dolphin washes up on shore from getting butchered by the prop.
Why did the Myans, and all their science, go silent?
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ABV 8.3% wrote: Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:57 am
youthathletics wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:46 am This kind of potential has been in the works, long before wind turbines. The crux was how to actually utilize them safely and extract the energy to land. Hope it bears fruit, before one of those props kills an endangered species or a dolphin washes up on shore from getting butchered by the prop.
Why did the Myans, and all their science, go silent?
First need to figure out where they Mayans went.
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dislaxxic wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:32 pm New York Becomes The First State To Divest From Oil And Gas

Baby steps...

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had those burritos for dinner last night, i was one new yorker divesting in gas bigtime. :D
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cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:51 pm
dislaxxic wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:32 pm New York Becomes The First State To Divest From Oil And Gas

Baby steps...

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had those burritos for dinner last night, i was one new yorker divesting in gas bigtime. :D
GOOD one, Cranky! :lol: :lol:

Then, you let out some more gas in written form here at FL... :D

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dislaxxic wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:56 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:51 pm
dislaxxic wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:32 pm New York Becomes The First State To Divest From Oil And Gas

Baby steps...

..
had those burritos for dinner last night, i was one new yorker divesting in gas bigtime. :D
GOOD one, Cranky! :lol: :lol:

Then, you let out some more gas in written form here at FL... :D

..
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Man made mass now out weighs all life on earth for the first time ever. The trend will continue.
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jhu72 wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:16 pm Man made mass now out weighs all life on earth for the first time ever. The trend will continue.
Interesting concept to track. Wonder how they actually accomplish that, since everything on our planet, actually comes from our planet. Yes, I get that we make things that can have more mass then when they are just separate ingredients. Concrete is actually lighter after it dries.
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youthathletics wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:24 pm
jhu72 wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:16 pm Man made mass now out weighs all life on earth for the first time ever. The trend will continue.
Interesting concept to track. Wonder how they actually accomplish that, since everything on our planet, actually comes from our planet. Yes, I get that we make things that can have more mass then when they are just separate ingredients. Concrete is actually lighter after it dries.
That’s an interesting concept. Zero sum. Might be something to it. I am going to look into it. The article does make the distinction between man made mass and living organisms versus increased total mass. But I am going to look further into it. It’s interesting.

Is concrete lighter due to evaporation? And water drying?

EDIT: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16787636
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A little off topic.

A speculation seems to be true. Scientist have been speculating for decades that something like this might be going on. Other researchers have noted the periodicity, but this is the first (I believe) to correlate with a combination of impactors and non-impactor volcanism.

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My son was just studying lightcurve periods of asteroids that are in close proximity to earth, using date from the University of Arizona Bok 2.3 meter telescope. Fascinating stuff.

Neat little fun game that shows how it’s done: http://www.killerasteroids.org/interact ... tcurveweb/
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youthathletics wrote: Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:38 pm My son was just studying lightcurve periods of asteroids that are in close proximity to earth, using date from the University of Arizona Bok 2.3 meter telescope. Fascinating stuff.

Neat little fun game that shows how it’s done: http://www.killerasteroids.org/interact ... tcurveweb/
Thanks for posting that.
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https://www.capitalgazette.com/environm ... story.html

Interesting article about the plan to elevate the City Dock area of downtown Annapolis & heighten the sea wall around the Naval Academy & the impact on the adjoining area.

A preview of the coming elevate or relocate dilemma in coastal areas.
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old salt wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:07 pm https://www.capitalgazette.com/environm ... story.html

Interesting article about the plan to elevate the City Dock area of downtown Annapolis & heighten the sea wall around the Naval Academy & the impact on the adjoining area.

A preview of the coming elevate or relocate dilemma in coastal areas.
Neat, and frankly unbelievable story, of doing this in Chicago 100+ years ago....


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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:51 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 6:24 pm
jhu72 wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:16 pm Man made mass now out weighs all life on earth for the first time ever. The trend will continue.
Interesting concept to track. Wonder how they actually accomplish that, since everything on our planet, actually comes from our planet. Yes, I get that we make things that can have more mass then when they are just separate ingredients. Concrete is actually lighter after it dries.
That’s an interesting concept. Zero sum. Might be something to it. I am going to look into it. The article does make the distinction between man made mass and living organisms versus increased total mass. But I am going to look further into it. It’s interesting.

Is concrete lighter due to evaporation? And water drying?

EDIT: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16787636
can't you all see it IS all just part of teaching the doctrine. ??

Where human life, or lives, becomes known in the "speak speak" Orwellian world, as "mass". And, let us no forget, even Al Gore made strong, very strong, mention of the PROBLEM that IS all this additional MAN made, um...."mass". So, now, other humans become cocktail party "quick uNhuh" facts: you know, the kind of facts where everyone bobbs their head in approval, uttering, or rather mumbling, "ahah", or "herehere", instead comes out as "uhNNHuhnn"

"...did you hear?" using the pause to engulf the seared sea kelp and urchin app, " man has made more mass than ever. I mean, there is more man made crap, on earth...."
which leads to indoctrinating people into......

Obviously, you have to practice your lines better, why that Cop story from "R.dogs" was so important to get , just, right.

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a fan wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:42 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 3:07 pm https://www.capitalgazette.com/environm ... story.html

Interesting article about the plan to elevate the City Dock area of downtown Annapolis & heighten the sea wall around the Naval Academy & the impact on the adjoining area.

A preview of the coming elevate or relocate dilemma in coastal areas.
Neat, and frankly unbelievable story, of doing this in Chicago 100+ years ago....


Ask ABV 8.3% about it....he loves talking about the water underneath the buildings in Boston....he seent it. I always imagine 8.3% on the Its a Small World ride at Disney.

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dislaxxic wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:32 pm New York Becomes The First State To Divest From Oil And Gas

Baby steps...

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In the wrong direction, IMO. Divestment is a purely performative action that does absolutely nothing to reduce fossil fuel consumption.

IMO progressives should be buying oil company stock, and then taking action as shareholders to redirect the companies.
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