Re: All things CoronaVirus
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:13 pm
An honest response.
It's rare, but claps for honesty, disgustingly partisan as it is.
It's rare, but claps for honesty, disgustingly partisan as it is.
break it......Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:08 pmrunrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:00 pmReally? "democrats" . You had to go there. Why?Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:26 pmrunrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 11:05 am Their is just so much evidence, to suggest, thoughtfulness in regards to any second guessing about "vaccines", particulary mandates.
a. The shots do NOT prevent you from getting it, even tho you were told otherwize.
DR. Fauci said on May 17th, " ....the vaccines have a high rate, extremely high, rate of prevention...."
b. the shots do NOT prevent transmission of covid, jabbed or unjabbed. Wanna guess who told you this ?
c. Clearly, the shots do NOT work against all these variants. All tho, we were told, again, that vaccines were super effective against them.
Dr. Fauci, also said on May 17th, ".......vaccines will be highly effective against variants aw well "
d. All the focus is NOT on the J & J vaccine, yet, also approved.
e. long history of drug dealers being naughty and breaking laws. pfizer could have paid a penny, in fines. still are guilty of fraud. Most of us have beer in the garage fridge older than the other Mrna.
f. fraudulent to keep calling it a "vaccine", imho. Clearly, it does not prevent, what it's supposed to prevent.
H. the less mild, fewer severe and hospitolizations.........narrative, seems to leave out DEATHS...in that narrative. Curious, that.
Finally, this is for informational purposes only. We may get out of this pandemic if we can remember, we also have the right to listen, that goes along with the , right to free speech. Those that chose not to engange in the former, are enemies of freedom.
If Pfizer were going to date your daughter, would you let that happen ?
no need to watch, you can listen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jMONZMuS2U
Your entire post is solid, yet it only makes me wonder why so many Democrats can’t let go of their Fauci idolatry.
Habit
What the heck are you even going on about? It's a hilariously sad take.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:05 pm you are blaming me, and others skeptical of getting trumpU's fake "vaccine", for the Doctors classying it as a "non-E".
Keep on listening to the Docs, we guess. This time, last year, did you feel so much rage towards the "unvaccinated" ? exactly.
fake story
How is it unnecessary for a SICK person, so sick they have to be admitted, taking up hospitol beds ? Think about what you are thinking, here.NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:17 pmWhat the heck are you even going on about? It's a hilariously sad take.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:05 pm you are blaming me, and others skeptical of getting trumpU's fake "vaccine", for the Doctors classying it as a "non-E".
Keep on listening to the Docs, we guess. This time, last year, did you feel so much rage towards the "unvaccinated" ? exactly.
fake story
Yeah, you're dammed right that I'm blaming the unvaxxed for unnecessarily taking up too many hospital beds.
Also, vaccines weren't available to the general public at this point last year. LMAO
If they were vaccinated, they would have a much better chance at staying home with mild to no symptoms vs. having to go to the hospital.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:23 pm How is it unnecessary for a SICK person, so sick they have to be admitted, taking up hospitol beds ? Think about what you are thinking, here.
just like me, and over 100 million US residents. (remember the covid count, last year )NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:30 pmIf they were vaccinated, they would have a much better chance at staying home with mild to no symptoms vs. having to go to the hospital.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:23 pm How is it unnecessary for a SICK person, so sick they have to be admitted, taking up hospitol beds ? Think about what you are thinking, here.
Simple stuff to understand my man.
LMAO you're immune to properly interpreting medical information. Wonder what kind of vaccination that took...runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:37 pmjust like me, and over 100 million US residents. (remember the covid count, last year )NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:30 pmIf they were vaccinated, they would have a much better chance at staying home with mild to no symptoms vs. having to go to the hospital.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:23 pm How is it unnecessary for a SICK person, so sick they have to be admitted, taking up hospitol beds ? Think about what you are thinking, here.
Simple stuff to understand my man.
Same results....mild symptoms, no hospital visits.
Are you seriously denying that we were told, last year, that the vaccines would PREVENT, not reduce ? That is wrong. We were told that.
Tell us why we should take a shot that clearly doesn't prevent you from getting it, or prevent spreading it. Especially after already contracting the virus ? To only placate you and your "anger" ? Dude....focus your anger at the medical community, where it belongs.
The subtle moving targets on intel over the past 24 months have certainly invoked short term memory loss; death by a 1000 cuts, and not even realizing it.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:37 pmjust like me, and over 100 million US residents. (remember the covid count, last year )NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:30 pmIf they were vaccinated, they would have a much better chance at staying home with mild to no symptoms vs. having to go to the hospital.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:23 pm How is it unnecessary for a SICK person, so sick they have to be admitted, taking up hospitol beds ? Think about what you are thinking, here.
Simple stuff to understand my man.
Same results....mild symptoms, no hospital visits.
Are you seriously denying that we were told, last year, that the vaccines would PREVENT, not reduce ? That is wrong. We were told that.
Tell us why we should take a shot that clearly doesn't prevent you from getting it, or prevent spreading it. Especially after already contracting the virus ? To only placate you and your "anger" ? Dude....focus your anger at the medical community, where it belongs.
Surgeon? Physical trauma to the area is what caused the tear in the lining of his lungs, leading to the fluid buildup. A surgeon hasn't been near it yet. Tinfoil hattery.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:55 pm sometimes, you gotta have enough sense and toss in the towell.
Old man could always take that " ya dying of cancer, well, boy oh boy, do we have a drug for YOU " drug we see advertized on the "news"
yup........who was the surgeon that popped the hole in oldman lungs, and what was the reason behind the fluid in the lungs ? No FU to the lung popper ? (mistakes "happen" )
FU to the old man, while the young are trying to live life. Many ending them. Aggressive cancer? What the heck. 85 years of wearing masks. Enough is enough, end of life care is a joke.
Listening and learning is important. When one openly declares they are NOT interested in listening.....than here we are.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:50 pmThe subtle moving targets on intel over the past 24 months have certainly invoked short term memory loss; death by a 1000 cuts, and not even realizing it.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:37 pmjust like me, and over 100 million US residents. (remember the covid count, last year )NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:30 pmIf they were vaccinated, they would have a much better chance at staying home with mild to no symptoms vs. having to go to the hospital.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:23 pm How is it unnecessary for a SICK person, so sick they have to be admitted, taking up hospitol beds ? Think about what you are thinking, here.
Simple stuff to understand my man.
Same results....mild symptoms, no hospital visits.
Are you seriously denying that we were told, last year, that the vaccines would PREVENT, not reduce ? That is wrong. We were told that.
Tell us why we should take a shot that clearly doesn't prevent you from getting it, or prevent spreading it. Especially after already contracting the virus ? To only placate you and your "anger" ? Dude....focus your anger at the medical community, where it belongs.
We are truly "drowning in information & starving for wisdom".
I agree, a very inhuman thing to say. How is it different than what you are doing to me and the millions of unvaccinated?NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:09 pmSurgeon? Physical trauma to the area is what caused the tear in the lining of his lungs, leading to the fluid buildup. A surgeon hasn't been near it yet. Tinfoil hattery.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:55 pm sometimes, you gotta have enough sense and toss in the towell.
Old man could always take that " ya dying of cancer, well, boy oh boy, do we have a drug for YOU " drug we see advertized on the "news"
yup........who was the surgeon that popped the hole in oldman lungs, and what was the reason behind the fluid in the lungs ? No FU to the lung popper ? (mistakes "happen" )
FU to the old man, while the young are trying to live life. Many ending them. Aggressive cancer? What the heck. 85 years of wearing masks. Enough is enough, end of life care is a joke.
And yeah, what a vile, disgusting, inhuman thing to say and suggest. True colors indeed...
The guy was walking multiple miles per day, doing pushups and situps, and his vitals are better than most men 20 years younger. I wouldn't be surprised if he lasts another 15 years if we knock out this cancer. The rest of his body is as healthy as an ox.
Feel free to throw in the towel yourself. You disgust me.
Original estimates of vaccine efficacy against infraction by a novel upper respiratory virus that mutates quite frequently were over hyped.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:50 pmThe subtle moving targets on intel over the past 24 months have certainly invoked short term memory loss; death by a 1000 cuts, and not even realizing it.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:37 pmjust like me, and over 100 million US residents. (remember the covid count, last year )NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:30 pmIf they were vaccinated, they would have a much better chance at staying home with mild to no symptoms vs. having to go to the hospital.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:23 pm How is it unnecessary for a SICK person, so sick they have to be admitted, taking up hospitol beds ? Think about what you are thinking, here.
Simple stuff to understand my man.
Same results....mild symptoms, no hospital visits.
Are you seriously denying that we were told, last year, that the vaccines would PREVENT, not reduce ? That is wrong. We were told that.
Tell us why we should take a shot that clearly doesn't prevent you from getting it, or prevent spreading it. Especially after already contracting the virus ? To only placate you and your "anger" ? Dude....focus your anger at the medical community, where it belongs.
We are truly "drowning in information & starving for wisdom".
Yea...changing the definition of 'vaccine' in month 20 of a pandemic, really went over well during an era of claiming it will stop it. Removing the term immunity and replacing it with protection, certainly did wonders.Bart wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:13 pmOriginal estimates of vaccine efficacy against infraction by a novel upper respiratory virus that mutates quite frequently were over hyped.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:50 pmThe subtle moving targets on intel over the past 24 months have certainly invoked short term memory loss; death by a 1000 cuts, and not even realizing it.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:37 pmjust like me, and over 100 million US residents. (remember the covid count, last year )NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:30 pmIf they were vaccinated, they would have a much better chance at staying home with mild to no symptoms vs. having to go to the hospital.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:23 pm How is it unnecessary for a SICK person, so sick they have to be admitted, taking up hospitol beds ? Think about what you are thinking, here.
Simple stuff to understand my man.
Same results....mild symptoms, no hospital visits.
Are you seriously denying that we were told, last year, that the vaccines would PREVENT, not reduce ? That is wrong. We were told that.
Tell us why we should take a shot that clearly doesn't prevent you from getting it, or prevent spreading it. Especially after already contracting the virus ? To only placate you and your "anger" ? Dude....focus your anger at the medical community, where it belongs.
We are truly "drowning in information & starving for wisdom".
The idea that the vaccine is preventing death and severe disease is not.
runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:11 pmListening and learning is important. When one openly declares they are NOT interested in listening.....than here we are.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:50 pmThe subtle moving targets on intel over the past 24 months have certainly invoked short term memory loss; death by a 1000 cuts, and not even realizing it.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:37 pmjust like me, and over 100 million US residents. (remember the covid count, last year )NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:30 pmIf they were vaccinated, they would have a much better chance at staying home with mild to no symptoms vs. having to go to the hospital.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:23 pm How is it unnecessary for a SICK person, so sick they have to be admitted, taking up hospitol beds ? Think about what you are thinking, here.
Simple stuff to understand my man.
Same results....mild symptoms, no hospital visits.
Are you seriously denying that we were told, last year, that the vaccines would PREVENT, not reduce ? That is wrong. We were told that.
Tell us why we should take a shot that clearly doesn't prevent you from getting it, or prevent spreading it. Especially after already contracting the virus ? To only placate you and your "anger" ? Dude....focus your anger at the medical community, where it belongs.
We are truly "drowning in information & starving for wisdom".
Where are these "studies" that claim vaccinated folks get symptoms less severe ? 12 months ago, it didn't exist. Most take the 2 jabs. First in March, second in April. boosted in Nov. JHU72 just got covid, with symptoms.
Don't understand the value in 'studies", most of them we have read are essentially PR releases, on who is, or is not, jabbed.. If they are sick, they are sick.
We get it. Those who may, per Doctors orders, die or have serious issues afterwards, should just shutFU and take the shot. NOT listen to their Docs.
Your fake old man story would sell better if it were a 42 year old "pillar of the community", instead of a guy with both feet out the door. He's a racist southern anyway, from the South, probably voted for trump, so who cares.
Am i fitting in now
You: FU to your old man, he should toss in the towel and die.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:13 pmI agree, a very inhuman thing to say. How is it different than what you are doing to me and the millions of unvaccinated?NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:09 pmSurgeon? Physical trauma to the area is what caused the tear in the lining of his lungs, leading to the fluid buildup. A surgeon hasn't been near it yet. Tinfoil hattery.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 12:55 pm sometimes, you gotta have enough sense and toss in the towell.
Old man could always take that " ya dying of cancer, well, boy oh boy, do we have a drug for YOU " drug we see advertized on the "news"
yup........who was the surgeon that popped the hole in oldman lungs, and what was the reason behind the fluid in the lungs ? No FU to the lung popper ? (mistakes "happen" )
FU to the old man, while the young are trying to live life. Many ending them. Aggressive cancer? What the heck. 85 years of wearing masks. Enough is enough, end of life care is a joke.
And yeah, what a vile, disgusting, inhuman thing to say and suggest. True colors indeed...
The guy was walking multiple miles per day, doing pushups and situps, and his vitals are better than most men 20 years younger. I wouldn't be surprised if he lasts another 15 years if we knock out this cancer. The rest of his body is as healthy as an ox.
Feel free to throw in the towel yourself. You disgust me.
Vaccine: a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:34 pmYea...changing the definition of 'vaccine' in month 20 of a pandemic, really went over well during an era of claiming it will stop it. Removing the term immunity and replacing it with protection, certainly did wonders.Bart wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:13 pmOriginal estimates of vaccine efficacy against infraction by a novel upper respiratory virus that mutates quite frequently were over hyped.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:50 pmThe subtle moving targets on intel over the past 24 months have certainly invoked short term memory loss; death by a 1000 cuts, and not even realizing it.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:37 pmjust like me, and over 100 million US residents. (remember the covid count, last year )NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:30 pmIf they were vaccinated, they would have a much better chance at staying home with mild to no symptoms vs. having to go to the hospital.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 1:23 pm How is it unnecessary for a SICK person, so sick they have to be admitted, taking up hospitol beds ? Think about what you are thinking, here.
Simple stuff to understand my man.
Same results....mild symptoms, no hospital visits.
Are you seriously denying that we were told, last year, that the vaccines would PREVENT, not reduce ? That is wrong. We were told that.
Tell us why we should take a shot that clearly doesn't prevent you from getting it, or prevent spreading it. Especially after already contracting the virus ? To only placate you and your "anger" ? Dude....focus your anger at the medical community, where it belongs.
We are truly "drowning in information & starving for wisdom".
The idea that the vaccine is preventing death and severe disease is not.
Pretty sure my symptoms were mediated by having been vaccinated and boosted, likely would have been worse without. Same for my wife and son.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:10 pm I think you are missing the point....
For example. Someone like MD has had 3 shots of Moderna (if I understand correctly) went cruising the 7 seas, and got sick....fever, sore throat etc. If he were in his 80's he'd likely be admitted to the hospital, and of course they'd run a battery of tests, keeping him overnight quite possibly.....tying up a bed. They ALL are not unvaxxed in there.
You're missing the point...youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:10 pm I think you are missing the point....
For example. Someone like MD has had 3 shots of Moderna (if I understand correctly) went cruising the 7 seas, and got sick....fever, sore throat etc. If he were in his 80's he'd likely be admitted to the hospital, and of course they'd run a battery of tests, keeping him overnight quite possibly.....tying up a bed. They ALL are not unvaxxed in there.
Not arguing...being pragmatic. If you were in your 80's with your symptoms, and the diagnosis explained below....I suspect you may go to the hospital to get checked out, therefore taking up space as a vaxxed person on a covid floor.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:28 pmPretty sure my symptoms were mediated by having been vaccinated and boosted, likely would have been worse without. Same for my wife and son.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:10 pm I think you are missing the point....
For example. Someone like MD has had 3 shots of Moderna (if I understand correctly) went cruising the 7 seas, and got sick....fever, sore throat etc. If he were in his 80's he'd likely be admitted to the hospital, and of course they'd run a battery of tests, keeping him overnight quite possibly.....tying up a bed. They ALL are not unvaxxed in there.
My symptoms were uncomfortable but never remotely scary as to breathing etc, and no I don't think we'd have been at hospital if 80...tons of data on this now, not sure why anyone is still arguing.