Recruiting

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LaxDadMax
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Re: Recruiting

Post by LaxDadMax »

MDstateMan wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:58 am
spidey44 wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 7:16 am
LaxDadMax wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:06 pm
Bluecollar wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:03 am QQ:

Anyone have experience with XPO and Lax Masters? Pros/cons of each? Is one of these smaller/capped number of participants versus the other? Is there another that offers similar exposure/opp?

For context, D is from non-hotbed, plays on a top 100 club (as in bottom of that list), so doubt there will be tons of coaches on our sidelines in Pool C or whatever we are in at the fall tourneys, so feel like we need to get her to these types of events for exposure.

Thanks.
They are well-run events that get you exposure to top schools. I think Lax Masters tends to be a better event, but it really depends on which schools you are targeting.

The only thing I will say is this, and I don't want to be the turd in the punchbowl. But if she is playing in a club ranked at the bottom of the top 100, you need to really ask if your daughter is at the level of these highly ranked programs who attend these events. If she isn't the best player or two on that team, the answer is more than likely, no.

Look at your daughters film and the film of the girls who recently committed to those schools. If it isn't close, then you probably don't want to attend these camps.
Isn't Lax Masters more high academic D3? I have heard it's a very good event, but don't know from experience.
Based on the site, which lists schools attending, it has a lot of D1, 6 Ivys, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Michigan, Notre Dame, etc. To your point, D3s as well, like Colby, Amherst,
Depends on event. There are some D3 only events. But the most popular events are high-academic D1 and maybe a few NESCACs (who are recruiting mid-level D1 talent)
COlaxdad
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Re: Recruiting

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LaxDadMax wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:06 pm
Bluecollar wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:03 am QQ:

Anyone have experience with XPO and Lax Masters? Pros/cons of each? Is one of these smaller/capped number of participants versus the other? Is there another that offers similar exposure/opp?

For context, D is from non-hotbed, plays on a top 100 club (as in bottom of that list), so doubt there will be tons of coaches on our sidelines in Pool C or whatever we are in at the fall tourneys, so feel like we need to get her to these types of events for exposure.

Thanks.
They are well-run events that get you exposure to top schools. I think Lax Masters tends to be a better event, but it really depends on which schools you are targeting.

The only thing I will say is this, and I don't want to be the turd in the punchbowl. But if she is playing in a club ranked at the bottom of the top 100, you need to really ask if your daughter is at the level of these highly ranked programs who attend these events. If she isn't the best player or two on that team, the answer is more than likely, no.

Look at your daughters film and the film of the girls who recently committed to those schools. If it isn't close, then you probably don't want to attend these camps.
I don't really agree with this. Club level depends on a lot of factors and I see girls getting recruited from top 50 and under that is questionable and know of quite a few that look far better that aren't. 2025s as well that are still getting picked up and watch their video and it's hard to understand. Are there a number of stand outs- yes. But not nearly enough to warrant not attending if you are a great player (not even top on your team) on a lower ranked team.
MDstateMan
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Re: Recruiting

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2027 D going to first real prospect camp this Saturday. Other than sending an email this week giving the coaches a heads up, and asking club coaches to as well, anything she can do to help get noticed? I am told to be sure to introduce herself and also thank coaches at end.

On flip side, without any communication to player from coach, any way to know they are interested before Sep 1?
Finnyboy
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Re: Recruiting

Post by Finnyboy »

Lax Masters is well run, small numbers, my daughter got on several Ivy's radar by this camp
hmmm
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Re: Recruiting

Post by hmmm »

MDstateMan wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:09 am 2027 D going to first real prospect camp this Saturday. Other than sending an email this week giving the coaches a heads up, and asking club coaches to as well, anything she can do to help get noticed? I am told to be sure to introduce herself and also thank coaches at end.

On flip side, without any communication to player from coach, any way to know they are interested before Sep 1?
Coaches are only allowed to express "general interest" to your daughter's club coach/recruiting director prior to 9/1.
Relax77
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Re: Recruiting

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MDstateMan wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:09 am 2027 D going to first real prospect camp this Saturday. Other than sending an email this week giving the coaches a heads up, and asking club coaches to as well, anything she can do to help get noticed? I am told to be sure to introduce herself and also thank coaches at end.

On flip side, without any communication to player from coach, any way to know they are interested before Sep 1?
Hmmm answered the second.

Truth is your daughter just has to play well and have a good disposition. That will speak volumes. Some people say wear something that gets them noticed. I don’t think that’s necessary. Playing awesome, showing high iq and doing well right out of the gate in the drills will get the coaches eyes on her just as much as wearing American flag socks or a neon head band. Always seemed that the kids that did that weren’t a standout with their play anyway.

Depending on where you are going, if there are many kids at the camp like a high D1, the easiest way to tell if they are interested is if she’s with the top kids or with the commit team. Doesn’t always tell the story since this is your first, but more often than not .
MSLAX5
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Re: Recruiting

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Relax77 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 1:16 pm
MDstateMan wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:09 am 2027 D going to first real prospect camp this Saturday. Other than sending an email this week giving the coaches a heads up, and asking club coaches to as well, anything she can do to help get noticed? I am told to be sure to introduce herself and also thank coaches at end.

On flip side, without any communication to player from coach, any way to know they are interested before Sep 1?
Hmmm answered the second.

Truth is your daughter just has to play well and have a good disposition. That will speak volumes. Some people say wear something that gets them noticed. I don’t think that’s necessary. Playing awesome, showing high iq and doing well right out of the gate in the drills will get the coaches eyes on her just as much as wearing American flag socks or a neon head band. Always seemed that the kids that did that weren’t a standout with their play anyway.

Depending on where you are going, if there are many kids at the camp like a high D1, the easiest way to tell if they are interested is if she’s with the top kids or with the commit team. Doesn’t always tell the story since this is your first, but more often than not .
At all the prospect camps my daughter went to the commits were usually spread out among the teams to equal them out. I always told my daughter to thank the coaches after, she did it half the time. Always send emails before the camp with and intro email and info. A video clips is always good as well. My daughter sent most emails through sports recruits as it also sends them the link. She got alot of interest and is going to a top 20 D1 school. We kept our focus on 12 schools and she got texts from them all on sept 1.
Bluecollar
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Re: Recruiting

Post by Bluecollar »

Thanks for the thoughts and recommendations, folks. Appreciate all of them.

MSLAX5, when you say you focused on 12 can you share more what "focus" means? In constant email contact? Attended their prospect camps? Asked your club coach/rec director to reach out, etc?
MSLAX5
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Re: Recruiting

Post by MSLAX5 »

Bluecollar wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:01 pm Thanks for the thoughts and recommendations, folks. Appreciate all of them.

MSLAX5, when you say you focused on 12 can you share more what "focus" means? In constant email contact? Attended their prospect camps? Asked your club coach/rec director to reach out, etc?
She kept her list small in a certain location she wanted. She emailed the coaches with intro initially, then kept them informed of her schedule before every tourney. She did go to at least one or two prospect camps of her top 5 schools. Kept the list small and focused on those schools. It worked.
laxdadpat
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Re: Recruiting

Post by laxdadpat »

The most important thing to take away from MSLAX5 is his/her daughter is a terrific player to be going to a top 20 program. She is probably the best 1-2 players at her high school and her club team. The first step in recruiting is getting a realistic "rank" of your daughter in within her class. The truth usually hurts. That's where the club needs to give good guidance.

Let's do a quick dive into the numbers.
If your daughter is a defender. The top 30 teams will recruit about 50 defenders total for an entire class. Only 1 or 2 defenders per class.
If your daughter is an attacker. The top 30 teams may recruit about 6o attackers for the entire class.
If your daughter is a middy. The top 30 teams may recruit 150 middies for a class.
1 goalie per class

If your daughter does not play on a top 50 team, you need to be the top player if you are looking at top 30 college teams. Many parents of girls on top 30 club teams can't understand why the top 30 colleges are not a possibility when their daughter is an average player on a top team. It's a numbers game. There are exceptions like an amazing athlete that has only been playing lacrosse for a few years, rare size or rocket shot.
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Re: Recruiting

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COlaxdad wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:11 pm
LaxDadMax wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:06 pm
Bluecollar wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:03 am QQ:

Anyone have experience with XPO and Lax Masters? Pros/cons of each? Is one of these smaller/capped number of participants versus the other? Is there another that offers similar exposure/opp?

For context, D is from non-hotbed, plays on a top 100 club (as in bottom of that list), so doubt there will be tons of coaches on our sidelines in Pool C or whatever we are in at the fall tourneys, so feel like we need to get her to these types of events for exposure.

Thanks.
They are well-run events that get you exposure to top schools. I think Lax Masters tends to be a better event, but it really depends on which schools you are targeting.

The only thing I will say is this, and I don't want to be the turd in the punchbowl. But if she is playing in a club ranked at the bottom of the top 100, you need to really ask if your daughter is at the level of these highly ranked programs who attend these events. If she isn't the best player or two on that team, the answer is more than likely, no.

Look at your daughters film and the film of the girls who recently committed to those schools. If it isn't close, then you probably don't want to attend these camps.
I don't really agree with this. Club level depends on a lot of factors and I see girls getting recruited from top 50 and under that is questionable and know of quite a few that look far better that aren't. 2025s as well that are still getting picked up and watch their video and it's hard to understand. Are there a number of stand outs- yes. But not nearly enough to warrant not attending if you are a great player (not even top on your team) on a lower ranked team.
My daughter is a 25' and played for a club ranked in the 90's. Plenty of interest from schools inside the top 50 (1 top 5). If she shows up well on film, they will show up to watch.
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Re: Recruiting

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Wamp1 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:07 pm
COlaxdad wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:11 pm
LaxDadMax wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:06 pm
Bluecollar wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:03 am QQ:

Anyone have experience with XPO and Lax Masters? Pros/cons of each? Is one of these smaller/capped number of participants versus the other? Is there another that offers similar exposure/opp?

For context, D is from non-hotbed, plays on a top 100 club (as in bottom of that list), so doubt there will be tons of coaches on our sidelines in Pool C or whatever we are in at the fall tourneys, so feel like we need to get her to these types of events for exposure.

Thanks.
They are well-run events that get you exposure to top schools. I think Lax Masters tends to be a better event, but it really depends on which schools you are targeting.

The only thing I will say is this, and I don't want to be the turd in the punchbowl. But if she is playing in a club ranked at the bottom of the top 100, you need to really ask if your daughter is at the level of these highly ranked programs who attend these events. If she isn't the best player or two on that team, the answer is more than likely, no.

Look at your daughters film and the film of the girls who recently committed to those schools. If it isn't close, then you probably don't want to attend these camps.
I don't really agree with this. Club level depends on a lot of factors and I see girls getting recruited from top 50 and under that is questionable and know of quite a few that look far better that aren't. 2025s as well that are still getting picked up and watch their video and it's hard to understand. Are there a number of stand outs- yes. But not nearly enough to warrant not attending if you are a great player (not even top on your team) on a lower ranked team.
My daughter is a 25' and played for a club ranked in the 90's. Plenty of interest from schools inside the top 50 (1 top 5). If she shows up well on film, they will show up to watch.
Congrats to her and I assume she was probably the best player or 2 on her team. My point was that before attending any camp there needs to be a real honest assessment about what level a player can fit. For 80%+ of girls on teams outside the top 50 or so clubs, Ivies and other high academic D1s are probably beyond their reach.
Wamp1
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Re: Recruiting

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LaxDadMax wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:35 am
Wamp1 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:07 pm
COlaxdad wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:11 pm
LaxDadMax wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:06 pm
Bluecollar wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:03 am QQ:

Anyone have experience with XPO and Lax Masters? Pros/cons of each? Is one of these smaller/capped number of participants versus the other? Is there another that offers similar exposure/opp?

For context, D is from non-hotbed, plays on a top 100 club (as in bottom of that list), so doubt there will be tons of coaches on our sidelines in Pool C or whatever we are in at the fall tourneys, so feel like we need to get her to these types of events for exposure.

Thanks.
They are well-run events that get you exposure to top schools. I think Lax Masters tends to be a better event, but it really depends on which schools you are targeting.

The only thing I will say is this, and I don't want to be the turd in the punchbowl. But if she is playing in a club ranked at the bottom of the top 100, you need to really ask if your daughter is at the level of these highly ranked programs who attend these events. If she isn't the best player or two on that team, the answer is more than likely, no.

Look at your daughters film and the film of the girls who recently committed to those schools. If it isn't close, then you probably don't want to attend these camps.
I don't really agree with this. Club level depends on a lot of factors and I see girls getting recruited from top 50 and under that is questionable and know of quite a few that look far better that aren't. 2025s as well that are still getting picked up and watch their video and it's hard to understand. Are there a number of stand outs- yes. But not nearly enough to warrant not attending if you are a great player (not even top on your team) on a lower ranked team.
My daughter is a 25' and played for a club ranked in the 90's. Plenty of interest from schools inside the top 50 (1 top 5). If she shows up well on film, they will show up to watch.
Congrats to her and I assume she was probably the best player or 2 on her team. My point was that before attending any camp there needs to be a real honest assessment about what level a player can fit. For 80%+ of girls on teams outside the top 50 or so clubs, Ivies and other high academic D1s are probably beyond their reach.
Thanks. And yes, top player on the team with near 50% of the points only playing 1/2 of each half in summer/winter tournaments based on roster size. Also top player on HS team since freshman year. Went to a lot of the big showcase events and hedged a few bets summer heading into junior year with which prospect camps we chose at schools.
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Re: Recruiting

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Wamp1 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:49 am
LaxDadMax wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:35 am
Wamp1 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:07 pm
COlaxdad wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:11 pm
LaxDadMax wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:06 pm
Bluecollar wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:03 am QQ:

Anyone have experience with XPO and Lax Masters? Pros/cons of each? Is one of these smaller/capped number of participants versus the other? Is there another that offers similar exposure/opp?

For context, D is from non-hotbed, plays on a top 100 club (as in bottom of that list), so doubt there will be tons of coaches on our sidelines in Pool C or whatever we are in at the fall tourneys, so feel like we need to get her to these types of events for exposure.

Thanks.
They are well-run events that get you exposure to top schools. I think Lax Masters tends to be a better event, but it really depends on which schools you are targeting.

The only thing I will say is this, and I don't want to be the turd in the punchbowl. But if she is playing in a club ranked at the bottom of the top 100, you need to really ask if your daughter is at the level of these highly ranked programs who attend these events. If she isn't the best player or two on that team, the answer is more than likely, no.

Look at your daughters film and the film of the girls who recently committed to those schools. If it isn't close, then you probably don't want to attend these camps.
I don't really agree with this. Club level depends on a lot of factors and I see girls getting recruited from top 50 and under that is questionable and know of quite a few that look far better that aren't. 2025s as well that are still getting picked up and watch their video and it's hard to understand. Are there a number of stand outs- yes. But not nearly enough to warrant not attending if you are a great player (not even top on your team) on a lower ranked team.
My daughter is a 25' and played for a club ranked in the 90's. Plenty of interest from schools inside the top 50 (1 top 5). If she shows up well on film, they will show up to watch.
Congrats to her and I assume she was probably the best player or 2 on her team. My point was that before attending any camp there needs to be a real honest assessment about what level a player can fit. For 80%+ of girls on teams outside the top 50 or so clubs, Ivies and other high academic D1s are probably beyond their reach.
Thanks. And yes, top player on the team with near 50% of the points only playing 1/2 of each half in summer/winter tournaments based on roster size. Also top player on HS team since freshman year. Went to a lot of the big showcase events and hedged a few bets summer heading into junior year with which prospect camps we chose at schools.
That's great to hear. And a perfect example of how recruiting strategies need to be different based on which club team you play for.
Madlax59
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Re: Recruiting

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LaxDadMax wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 8:12 pm
Wamp1 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:49 am
LaxDadMax wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:35 am
Wamp1 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:07 pm
COlaxdad wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:11 pm
LaxDadMax wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:06 pm
Bluecollar wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:03 am QQ:

Anyone have experience with XPO and Lax Masters? Pros/cons of each? Is one of these smaller/capped number of participants versus the other? Is there another that offers similar exposure/opp?

For context, D is from non-hotbed, plays on a top 100 club (as in bottom of that list), so doubt there will be tons of coaches on our sidelines in Pool C or whatever we are in at the fall tourneys, so feel like we need to get her to these types of events for exposure.

Thanks.
They are well-run events that get you exposure to top schools. I think Lax Masters tends to be a better event, but it really depends on which schools you are targeting.

The only thing I will say is this, and I don't want to be the turd in the punchbowl. But if she is playing in a club ranked at the bottom of the top 100, you need to really ask if your daughter is at the level of these highly ranked programs who attend these events. If she isn't the best player or two on that team, the answer is more than likely, no.

Look at your daughters film and the film of the girls who recently committed to those schools. If it isn't close, then you probably don't want to attend these camps.
I don't really agree with this. Club level depends on a lot of factors and I see girls getting recruited from top 50 and under that is questionable and know of quite a few that look far better that aren't. 2025s as well that are still getting picked up and watch their video and it's hard to understand. Are there a number of stand outs- yes. But not nearly enough to warrant not attending if you are a great player (not even top on your team) on a lower ranked team.
My daughter is a 25' and played for a club ranked in the 90's. Plenty of interest from schools inside the top 50 (1 top 5). If she shows up well on film, they will show up to watch.
Congrats to her and I assume she was probably the best player or 2 on her team. My point was that before attending any camp there needs to be a real honest assessment about what level a player can fit. For 80%+ of girls on teams outside the top 50 or so clubs, Ivies and other high academic D1s are probably beyond their reach.
Thanks. And yes, top player on the team with near 50% of the points only playing 1/2 of each half in summer/winter tournaments based on roster size. Also top player on HS team since freshman year. Went to a lot of the big showcase events and hedged a few bets summer heading into junior year with which prospect camps we chose at schools.
That's great to hear. And a perfect example of how recruiting strategies need to be different based on which club team you play for.
Wondering if you can help me out . Is 7th grade too early to go to pay to play tourneys in your opinion . Also - any of these “pay to play” tourneys worth it to attend :



-Juniors (Player’s) Open
-Excelsior Lax Games
-Apex Youth Girls Lax Games
-American Select (through Nike)
-All American?
-LiLJ winter evaluation camps


Thx in advance . Club directors aren’t giving too much guidance and it’s hard to know what to do
LaxDadMax
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Re: Recruiting

Post by LaxDadMax »

Madlax59 wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:28 am
LaxDadMax wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 8:12 pm
Wamp1 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:49 am
LaxDadMax wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:35 am
Wamp1 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:07 pm
COlaxdad wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:11 pm
LaxDadMax wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:06 pm
Bluecollar wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:03 am QQ:

Anyone have experience with XPO and Lax Masters? Pros/cons of each? Is one of these smaller/capped number of participants versus the other? Is there another that offers similar exposure/opp?

For context, D is from non-hotbed, plays on a top 100 club (as in bottom of that list), so doubt there will be tons of coaches on our sidelines in Pool C or whatever we are in at the fall tourneys, so feel like we need to get her to these types of events for exposure.

Thanks.
They are well-run events that get you exposure to top schools. I think Lax Masters tends to be a better event, but it really depends on which schools you are targeting.

The only thing I will say is this, and I don't want to be the turd in the punchbowl. But if she is playing in a club ranked at the bottom of the top 100, you need to really ask if your daughter is at the level of these highly ranked programs who attend these events. If she isn't the best player or two on that team, the answer is more than likely, no.

Look at your daughters film and the film of the girls who recently committed to those schools. If it isn't close, then you probably don't want to attend these camps.
I don't really agree with this. Club level depends on a lot of factors and I see girls getting recruited from top 50 and under that is questionable and know of quite a few that look far better that aren't. 2025s as well that are still getting picked up and watch their video and it's hard to understand. Are there a number of stand outs- yes. But not nearly enough to warrant not attending if you are a great player (not even top on your team) on a lower ranked team.
My daughter is a 25' and played for a club ranked in the 90's. Plenty of interest from schools inside the top 50 (1 top 5). If she shows up well on film, they will show up to watch.
Congrats to her and I assume she was probably the best player or 2 on her team. My point was that before attending any camp there needs to be a real honest assessment about what level a player can fit. For 80%+ of girls on teams outside the top 50 or so clubs, Ivies and other high academic D1s are probably beyond their reach.
Thanks. And yes, top player on the team with near 50% of the points only playing 1/2 of each half in summer/winter tournaments based on roster size. Also top player on HS team since freshman year. Went to a lot of the big showcase events and hedged a few bets summer heading into junior year with which prospect camps we chose at schools.
That's great to hear. And a perfect example of how recruiting strategies need to be different based on which club team you play for.
Wondering if you can help me out . Is 7th grade too early to go to pay to play tourneys in your opinion . Also - any of these “pay to play” tourneys worth it to attend :



-Juniors (Player’s) Open
-Excelsior Lax Games
-Apex Youth Girls Lax Games
-American Select (through Nike)
-All American?
-LiLJ winter evaluation camps


Thx in advance . Club directors aren’t giving too much guidance and it’s hard to know what to do
COlaxdad
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Re: Recruiting

Post by COlaxdad »

Madlax59 wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:28 am
LaxDadMax wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 8:12 pm
Wamp1 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:49 am
LaxDadMax wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:35 am
Wamp1 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:07 pm
COlaxdad wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:11 pm
LaxDadMax wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:06 pm
Bluecollar wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:03 am QQ:

Anyone have experience with XPO and Lax Masters? Pros/cons of each? Is one of these smaller/capped number of participants versus the other? Is there another that offers similar exposure/opp?

For context, D is from non-hotbed, plays on a top 100 club (as in bottom of that list), so doubt there will be tons of coaches on our sidelines in Pool C or whatever we are in at the fall tourneys, so feel like we need to get her to these types of events for exposure.

Thanks.
They are well-run events that get you exposure to top schools. I think Lax Masters tends to be a better event, but it really depends on which schools you are targeting.

The only thing I will say is this, and I don't want to be the turd in the punchbowl. But if she is playing in a club ranked at the bottom of the top 100, you need to really ask if your daughter is at the level of these highly ranked programs who attend these events. If she isn't the best player or two on that team, the answer is more than likely, no.

Look at your daughters film and the film of the girls who recently committed to those schools. If it isn't close, then you probably don't want to attend these camps.
I don't really agree with this. Club level depends on a lot of factors and I see girls getting recruited from top 50 and under that is questionable and know of quite a few that look far better that aren't. 2025s as well that are still getting picked up and watch their video and it's hard to understand. Are there a number of stand outs- yes. But not nearly enough to warrant not attending if you are a great player (not even top on your team) on a lower ranked team.
My daughter is a 25' and played for a club ranked in the 90's. Plenty of interest from schools inside the top 50 (1 top 5). If she shows up well on film, they will show up to watch.
Congrats to her and I assume she was probably the best player or 2 on her team. My point was that before attending any camp there needs to be a real honest assessment about what level a player can fit. For 80%+ of girls on teams outside the top 50 or so clubs, Ivies and other high academic D1s are probably beyond their reach.
Thanks. And yes, top player on the team with near 50% of the points only playing 1/2 of each half in summer/winter tournaments based on roster size. Also top player on HS team since freshman year. Went to a lot of the big showcase events and hedged a few bets summer heading into junior year with which prospect camps we chose at schools.
That's great to hear. And a perfect example of how recruiting strategies need to be different based on which club team you play for.
Wondering if you can help me out . Is 7th grade too early to go to pay to play tourneys in your opinion . Also - any of these “pay to play” tourneys worth it to attend :



-Juniors (Player’s) Open
-Excelsior Lax Games
-Apex Youth Girls Lax Games
-American Select (through Nike)
-All American?
-LiLJ winter evaluation camps


Thx in advance . Club directors aren’t giving too much guidance and it’s hard to know what to do
Yes and no, it is early- especially if you have to travel, but it does give them experience in the setting. That can get them comfortable when they hit freshman and sophmore years. But really the only people that benefit sending 7th and even 8th graders to these are the tournament promoters and those hold them. The money grab that this sport, especially for girls, has become in the last 10 years is nauseating. There will be no shortage of events willing to take your money with promises of exposure even at the 11 -13 yo ages.
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Re: Recruiting

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MSLAX5 wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 5:09 pm
Bluecollar wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:01 pm Thanks for the thoughts and recommendations, folks. Appreciate all of them.

MSLAX5, when you say you focused on 12 can you share more what "focus" means? In constant email contact? Attended their prospect camps? Asked your club coach/rec director to reach out, etc?
She kept her list small in a certain location she wanted. She emailed the coaches with intro initially, then kept them informed of her schedule before every tourney. She did go to at least one or two prospect camps of her top 5 schools. Kept the list small and focused on those schools. It worked.
This advice is fine if you are in your situation, but the vast majority of girls are going to benefit from casting that net far and wide. Get your name and profile out there because coaches talk and even if you aren't a fit for one school, another may hear of you from talk. My daughter landed on the radar of 5 schools because the school she wanted was recruiting small and didn't have a need for a defender but let other schools know about her and then one of those schools told another. Think of it as networking, the more exposure you have the increase in chances of success go up. It's a lot of work to keep up on emails and follow up correspondence but it's basically a job.
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Re: Recruiting

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Thanks so much . Any specific tourneys you have heard are better from the ones above - or you have experience with sending your D?
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Re: Recruiting

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Madlax59 wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:28 am
LaxDadMax wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 8:12 pm
Wamp1 wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:49 am
LaxDadMax wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 9:35 am
Wamp1 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:07 pm
COlaxdad wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:11 pm
LaxDadMax wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:06 pm
Bluecollar wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:03 am QQ:

Anyone have experience with XPO and Lax Masters? Pros/cons of each? Is one of these smaller/capped number of participants versus the other? Is there another that offers similar exposure/opp?

For context, D is from non-hotbed, plays on a top 100 club (as in bottom of that list), so doubt there will be tons of coaches on our sidelines in Pool C or whatever we are in at the fall tourneys, so feel like we need to get her to these types of events for exposure.

Thanks.
They are well-run events that get you exposure to top schools. I think Lax Masters tends to be a better event, but it really depends on which schools you are targeting.

The only thing I will say is this, and I don't want to be the turd in the punchbowl. But if she is playing in a club ranked at the bottom of the top 100, you need to really ask if your daughter is at the level of these highly ranked programs who attend these events. If she isn't the best player or two on that team, the answer is more than likely, no.

Look at your daughters film and the film of the girls who recently committed to those schools. If it isn't close, then you probably don't want to attend these camps.
I don't really agree with this. Club level depends on a lot of factors and I see girls getting recruited from top 50 and under that is questionable and know of quite a few that look far better that aren't. 2025s as well that are still getting picked up and watch their video and it's hard to understand. Are there a number of stand outs- yes. But not nearly enough to warrant not attending if you are a great player (not even top on your team) on a lower ranked team.
My daughter is a 25' and played for a club ranked in the 90's. Plenty of interest from schools inside the top 50 (1 top 5). If she shows up well on film, they will show up to watch.
Congrats to her and I assume she was probably the best player or 2 on her team. My point was that before attending any camp there needs to be a real honest assessment about what level a player can fit. For 80%+ of girls on teams outside the top 50 or so clubs, Ivies and other high academic D1s are probably beyond their reach.
Thanks. And yes, top player on the team with near 50% of the points only playing 1/2 of each half in summer/winter tournaments based on roster size. Also top player on HS team since freshman year. Went to a lot of the big showcase events and hedged a few bets summer heading into junior year with which prospect camps we chose at schools.
That's great to hear. And a perfect example of how recruiting strategies need to be different based on which club team you play for.
Wondering if you can help me out . Is 7th grade too early to go to pay to play tourneys in your opinion . Also - any of these “pay to play” tourneys worth it to attend :



-Juniors (Player’s) Open
-Excelsior Lax Games
-Apex Youth Girls Lax Games
-American Select (through Nike)
-All American?
-LiLJ winter evaluation camps


Thx in advance . Club directors aren’t giving too much guidance and it’s hard to know what to do
7th grade is too early, unless you live close to these events.
They are expensive events and only benefit is allowing your daughter to play against good competition. It will not help for recruiting as it is way too early.
8th grade is even early. Freshman and Soph years are the years to do it.
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