foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:35 am
Mental health, we all agree, is a big issue....so far the investment in studying mental health and guns has been pretty much nil. Thank you NRA.
When that ban is lifted and real money put forth, it will be clear the pols are serious.
Is the NRA really this powerful?
I wonder if the Lexington minuteman muster or grog infused meetings weeded out the discipline problems, if you know what I mean.
Re: Sensible Gun Control
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:43 am
by DMac
foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:35 am
Mental health, we all agree, is a big issue....so far the investment in studying mental health and guns has been pretty much nil. Thank you NRA.
When that ban is lifted and real money put forth, it will be clear the pols are serious.
nil...yes. Isn't the real answer to repeal the Second Amendment and confiscate all guns?
With the stockpile of guns and ammo we have, isn't all the other talk just pizzin' in the wind in reality?
(really not trying to be an rump here)
foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:35 am
Mental health, we all agree, is a big issue....so far the investment in studying mental health and guns has been pretty much nil. Thank you NRA.
When that ban is lifted and real money put forth, it will be clear the pols are serious.
nil...yes. Isn't the real answer to repeal the Second Amendment and confiscate all guns?
With the stockpile of guns and ammo we have, isn't all the other talk just pizzin' in the wind in reality?
(really not trying to be an rump here)
Nobody has talked about repealing the second amendment.
Re: Sensible Gun Control
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:08 am
by DMac
Never suggested they did, I'm just asking a question.
foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:35 am
Mental health, we all agree, is a big issue....so far the investment in studying mental health and guns has been pretty much nil. Thank you NRA.
When that ban is lifted and real money put forth, it will be clear the pols are serious.
nil...yes. Isn't the real answer to repeal the Second Amendment and confiscate all guns?
With the stockpile of guns and ammo we have, isn't all the other talk just pizzin' in the wind in reality?
(really not trying to be an rump here)
As a gun owner, I hope there is a sensible path forward....2nd, as we all know, isn't absolute, so we have to believe that reasonable people can make reasonable concessions.
foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:35 am
Mental health, we all agree, is a big issue....so far the investment in studying mental health and guns has been pretty much nil. Thank you NRA.
When that ban is lifted and real money put forth, it will be clear the pols are serious.
Is the NRA really this powerful? IMO, yes. A purely partisan group that has gotten far afield of it's original mission...
I wonder if the Lexington minuteman muster or grog infused meetings weeded out the discipline problems, if you know what I mean.
Re: Sensible Gun Control
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:21 am
by Typical Lax Dad
DMac wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:08 am
Never suggested they did, I'm just asking a question.
We have a constitutional right to own a gun. I don't believe anyone will sign up for banning all guns. It is not unreasonable to make it more difficult for people to buy military style weapons, or to provide an incentive to turn some in (a buyback program). These would be steps toward changing the gun culture that we have in this country. No other country has as many senseless gun killings than we do and I am not counting mass shootings. Why anyone needs a device that will allow them to fire off 100 rounds is beyond me. I am not into guns but I don't have a problem with people that are.
foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:35 am
Mental health, we all agree, is a big issue....so far the investment in studying mental health and guns has been pretty much nil. Thank you NRA.
When that ban is lifted and real money put forth, it will be clear the pols are serious.
nil...yes. Isn't the real answer to repeal the Second Amendment and confiscate all guns?
With the stockpile of guns and ammo we have, isn't all the other talk just pizzin' in the wind in reality?
(really not trying to be an rump here)
As a gun owner, I hope there is a sensible path forward....2nd, as we all know, isn't absolute, so we have to believe that reasonable people can make reasonable concessions.
Yes, however, to date there's not much of that though.
What reasonable person thinks they have the right to own a machine gun?
foreverlax wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:35 am
Mental health, we all agree, is a big issue....so far the investment in studying mental health and guns has been pretty much nil. Thank you NRA.
When that ban is lifted and real money put forth, it will be clear the pols are serious.
nil...yes. Isn't the real answer to repeal the Second Amendment and confiscate all guns?
With the stockpile of guns and ammo we have, isn't all the other talk just pizzin' in the wind in reality?
(really not trying to be an rump here)
As a gun owner, I hope there is a sensible path forward....2nd, as we all know, isn't absolute, so we have to believe that reasonable people can make reasonable concessions.
Yes, however, to date there's not much of that though.Agreed...I orignially typed "believe", but hope is more practical.
What reasonable person thinks they have the right to own a machine gun?NRA contributors
Re: Sensible Gun Control
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:49 am
by jhu72
The problem is not the amendment. The problem is not even Scalia's convoluted interpretation of the amendment (ignoring words that don't fit his wished for interpretation). The problem is the chicken turd politicians. Guns and human beings don't mix under the influence of some catalysts. Whipped up hate; some mind and mood altering drugs; uncontrolled and unreasonable financial profit; etc. Recent studies are showing that mental illness and gun aggression is a canard. The its a mental illness issue is just one more lie being propagated by the gun industry and their lackies.
It's the mentally ill; its the video games; its the anything but guns and humans.
DMac wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:08 am
Never suggested they did, I'm just asking a question.
We have a constitutional right to own a gun. I don't believe anyone will sign up for banning all guns. It is not unreasonable to make it more difficult for people to buy military style weapons, or to provide an incentive to turn some in (a buyback program). These would be steps toward changing the gun culture that we have in this country. No other country has as many senseless gun killings than we do and I am not counting mass shootings. Why anyone needs a device that will allow them to fire off 100 rounds is beyond me. I am not into guns but I don't have a problem with people that are.
DMac wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:08 am
Never suggested they did, I'm just asking a question.
We have a constitutional right to own a gun. I don't believe anyone will sign up for banning all guns. It is not unreasonable to make it more difficult for people to buy military style weapons, or to provide an incentive to turn some in (a buyback program). These would be steps toward changing the gun culture that we have in this country. No other country has as many senseless gun killings than we do and I am not counting mass shootings. Why anyone needs a device that will allow them to fire off 100 rounds is beyond me. I am not into guns but I don't have a problem with people that are.
DMac wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:08 am
Never suggested they did, I'm just asking a question.
We have a constitutional right to own a gun. I don't believe anyone will sign up for banning all guns. It is not unreasonable to make it more difficult for people to buy military style weapons, or to provide an incentive to turn some in (a buyback program). These would be steps toward changing the gun culture that we have in this country. No other country has as many senseless gun killings than we do and I am not counting mass shootings. Why anyone needs a device that will allow them to fire off 100 rounds is beyond me. I am not into guns but I don't have a problem with people that are.
DMac wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:08 am
Never suggested they did, I'm just asking a question.
We have a constitutional right to own a gun. I don't believe anyone will sign up for banning all guns. It is not unreasonable to make it more difficult for people to buy military style weapons, or to provide an incentive to turn some in (a buyback program). These would be steps toward changing the gun culture that we have in this country. No other country has as many senseless gun killings than we do and I am not counting mass shootings. Why anyone needs a device that will allow them to fire off 100 rounds is beyond me. I am not into guns but I don't have a problem with people that are.
Deceptive headline, contradicted in the text of the article :
Because Obama pursued the policy involving the SSA through regulation, however, Congress had an easy time overturning it once Trump assumed the White House. Thanks to a special legislative tool called the Congressional Review Act, Republicans undid more than a dozen regulations that had been finalized late in Obama’s second term.
Deceptive headline, contradicted in the text of the article :
Because Obama pursued the policy involving the SSA through regulation, however, Congress had an easy time overturning it once Trump assumed the White House. Thanks to a special legislative tool called the Congressional Review Act, Republicans undid more than a dozen regulations that had been finalized late in Obama’s second term.
Deceptive headline, contradicted in the text of the article :
Because Obama pursued the policy involving the SSA through regulation, however, Congress had an easy time overturning it once Trump assumed the White House. Thanks to a special legislative tool called the Congressional Review Act, Republicans undid more than a dozen regulations that had been finalized late in Obama’s second term.
At least he provided it unaltered.
You can't alter a link.
I provide the link for anything I excerpt.
