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Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:09 am
by old salt
Kismet wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:07 am
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:59 am
Kismet wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:47 am
a fan wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:54 am
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:03 am How 'bout Mx. Aldrich ? What were the police & media using as their pronouns in press conferences & reports before their attorney stipulated the correct pronouns in a legal filing ?
:lol: Like I said...arguing for the sake of arguing.

Have a good night, sir......
Yep. Happens all the time around here. Rinse and repeat. :oops:
Yep. afan responded to me & had to have the last word (as usual),
& dumped a couple crates of apples & oranges, also as usual.
and well deserved...also as usual. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
& you piled on, with nothing to add but emojis... also as usual.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:19 am
by Kismet
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:09 am
Kismet wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:07 am
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:59 am
Kismet wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:47 am
a fan wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:54 am
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:03 am How 'bout Mx. Aldrich ? What were the police & media using as their pronouns in press conferences & reports before their attorney stipulated the correct pronouns in a legal filing ?
:lol: Like I said...arguing for the sake of arguing.

Have a good night, sir......
Yep. Happens all the time around here. Rinse and repeat. :oops:
Yep. afan responded to me & had to have the last word (as usual),
& dumped a couple crates of apples & oranges, also as usual.
and well deserved...also as usual. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
& you piled on, with nothing to add but emojis... also as usual.
You're so obvious there's nothing more to add. a fan has you rightly pegged, Popeye.
No emojis this time. Just the facts.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:29 am
by old salt
Kismet wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:19 am
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:09 am
Kismet wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:07 am
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:59 am
Kismet wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:47 am
a fan wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:54 am
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:03 am How 'bout Mx. Aldrich ? What were the police & media using as their pronouns in press conferences & reports before their attorney stipulated the correct pronouns in a legal filing ?
:lol: Like I said...arguing for the sake of arguing.

Have a good night, sir......
Yep. Happens all the time around here. Rinse and repeat. :oops:
Yep. afan responded to me & had to have the last word (as usual),
& dumped a couple crates of apples & oranges, also as usual.
and well deserved...also as usual. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
& you piled on, with nothing to add but emojis... also as usual.
You're so obvious there's nothing more to add. a fan has you rightly pegged, Popeye.
No emojis this time. Just the facts.
Except you're not arguing the facts in this case, so when you don't have any facts, make it personal, with insults.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:32 am
by Farfromgeneva
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:04 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:37 am
a fan wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:50 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:29 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:07 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:09 pm Culture Warrior; yeah!!!!

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1 ... 98/photo/1
Ya gotta admit, on a story like this, getting the preferred pronouns correct can be a challenge,
...& standy by to get canceled if you get one wrong.
Challenge? To do like 2 minutes of research per victim? Treating a human as a human being. Treating them how they wanted to be treated and not a talking point is about the least challenging thing to do in a major story like this. And a large part of their humanity.

They're not getting pronouns wrong on accident. It's not a challenge. And no one is "cancelling" them for that. The real "cancel culture" is murdering people for being themselves and not hurting anyone. Literally cancelling their life FFS. :roll:
Where does one go to do such research ? Is there a national registry of official preferred pronouns ?
As a matter of fact, smart*ss, there is. Remember? In fact, there's were countless rules on pronouns and ways to address people that YOU had to learn.

How big of a deal was it to address folks you served with correctly? Call a superior "sir" or "ma'am"? All the little rules civilians don't know...junior members salute first, and hundred of other tiny details you had to learn.

You got that just fine. Honorable discharge, right? So you managed to navigate those far more complicated social rules with no trouble.

But addressing someone in civilian life what THEY want to be addressed is somehow too complicated for you, and you just can't manage the energy to treat your fellow humans with just the barest of respect?

Buffalo cookies. Your'e just arguing to argue.
It’s an issue when one is used to giving commands but not believing others are human peers
Don't be so hard on yourself.
You need some distilled water to get all the salt out of your mouth this am my friend. And I thought my daughter cried a lot.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:33 am
by Farfromgeneva
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:52 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:34 am
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:29 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:07 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:09 pm Culture Warrior; yeah!!!!

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1 ... 98/photo/1
Ya gotta admit, on a story like this, getting the preferred pronouns correct can be a challenge,
...& standy by to get canceled if you get one wrong.
Challenge? To do like 2 minutes of research per victim? Treating a human as a human being. Treating them how they wanted to be treated and not a talking point is about the least challenging thing to do in a major story like this. And a large part of their humanity.

They're not getting pronouns wrong on accident. It's not a challenge. And no one is "cancelling" them for that. The real "cancel culture" is murdering people for being themselves and not hurting anyone. Literally cancelling their life FFS. :roll:
Where does one go to do such research ? Is there a national registry of official preferred pronouns ?
Somebody isn’t familiar with the Google machine?
That's how I found this.
https://www.denverpost.com/2022/11/22/a ... on-binary/

Apparently there's nothing in the Google machine about Mx. Aldrich's preferred pronouns or the media wouldn't have missed it for 2 days.
Research is more than one item. Jesus the density.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:34 am
by Farfromgeneva
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:05 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:35 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:49 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:29 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:07 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:09 pm Culture Warrior; yeah!!!!

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1 ... 98/photo/1
Ya gotta admit, on a story like this, getting the preferred pronouns correct can be a challenge,
...& standy by to get canceled if you get one wrong.
Challenge? To do like 2 minutes of research per victim? Treating a human as a human being. Treating them how they wanted to be treated and not a talking point is about the least challenging thing to do in a major story like this. And a large part of their humanity.

They're not getting pronouns wrong on accident. It's not a challenge. And no one is "cancelling" them for that. The real "cancel culture" is murdering people for being themselves and not hurting anyone. Literally cancelling their life FFS. :roll:
Where does one go to do such research ? Is there a national registry of official preferred pronouns ?
Seriously? Their wallet is an unfortunate dead giveaway after getting killed by people who make jokes about pronouns. Ask loved ones. Look up their social media accounts.

You're saying it's challenging to do a few minutes the simplest journalistic research? It's like asking my kid where he left his shoes.
My daughter once cried because she couldn’t find her bike helmet while standing over it in our front porch…that’s what we’re talking about here -6yr old level stuff
Modelling her fathers behavior.
Says the person who responded like a salty little girl to my posts without any self reflection.

Literally "I know you are but what am I" repeatedly...

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:40 am
by old salt
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:34 am
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:05 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:35 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:49 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:29 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:07 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:09 pm Culture Warrior; yeah!!!!

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1 ... 98/photo/1
Ya gotta admit, on a story like this, getting the preferred pronouns correct can be a challenge,
...& standy by to get canceled if you get one wrong.
Challenge? To do like 2 minutes of research per victim? Treating a human as a human being. Treating them how they wanted to be treated and not a talking point is about the least challenging thing to do in a major story like this. And a large part of their humanity.

They're not getting pronouns wrong on accident. It's not a challenge. And no one is "cancelling" them for that. The real "cancel culture" is murdering people for being themselves and not hurting anyone. Literally cancelling their life FFS. :roll:
Where does one go to do such research ? Is there a national registry of official preferred pronouns ?
Seriously? Their wallet is an unfortunate dead giveaway after getting killed by people who make jokes about pronouns. Ask loved ones. Look up their social media accounts.

You're saying it's challenging to do a few minutes the simplest journalistic research? It's like asking my kid where he left his shoes.
My daughter once cried because she couldn’t find her bike helmet while standing over it in our front porch…that’s what we’re talking about here -6yr old level stuff
Modelling her fathers behavior.
Says the person who responded like a salty little girl to my posts without any self reflection.

Literally "I know you are but what am I" repeatedly...
There's not enough bandwidth on this site to respond, in kind, to all of your cheap shots. That's why I usually don't reply.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:42 am
by Kismet
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:29 am
Kismet wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:19 am
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:09 am
Kismet wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:07 am
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:59 am
Kismet wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:47 am
a fan wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:54 am
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:03 am How 'bout Mx. Aldrich ? What were the police & media using as their pronouns in press conferences & reports before their attorney stipulated the correct pronouns in a legal filing ?
:lol: Like I said...arguing for the sake of arguing.

Have a good night, sir......
Yep. Happens all the time around here. Rinse and repeat. :oops:
Yep. afan responded to me & had to have the last word (as usual),
& dumped a couple crates of apples & oranges, also as usual.
and well deserved...also as usual. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
& you piled on, with nothing to add but emojis... also as usual.
You're so obvious there's nothing more to add. a fan has you rightly pegged, Popeye.
No emojis this time. Just the facts.
Except you're not arguing the facts in this case, so when you don't have any facts, make it personal, with insults.
Yeah sure.
But it can be entertaining watching you flail about - you are soooo predictable.
Enjoy your Turkey Day, sailor.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:53 am
by Farfromgeneva
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:40 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:34 am
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:05 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:35 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:49 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:29 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:07 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:09 pm Culture Warrior; yeah!!!!

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1 ... 98/photo/1
Ya gotta admit, on a story like this, getting the preferred pronouns correct can be a challenge,
...& standy by to get canceled if you get one wrong.
Challenge? To do like 2 minutes of research per victim? Treating a human as a human being. Treating them how they wanted to be treated and not a talking point is about the least challenging thing to do in a major story like this. And a large part of their humanity.

They're not getting pronouns wrong on accident. It's not a challenge. And no one is "cancelling" them for that. The real "cancel culture" is murdering people for being themselves and not hurting anyone. Literally cancelling their life FFS. :roll:
Where does one go to do such research ? Is there a national registry of official preferred pronouns ?
Seriously? Their wallet is an unfortunate dead giveaway after getting killed by people who make jokes about pronouns. Ask loved ones. Look up their social media accounts.

You're saying it's challenging to do a few minutes the simplest journalistic research? It's like asking my kid where he left his shoes.
My daughter once cried because she couldn’t find her bike helmet while standing over it in our front porch…that’s what we’re talking about here -6yr old level stuff
Modelling her fathers behavior.
Says the person who responded like a salty little girl to my posts without any self reflection.

Literally "I know you are but what am I" repeatedly...
There's not enough bandwidth on this site to respond, in kind, to all of your cheap shots. That's why I usually don't reply.
Sure...I get that your mental bandidth is super limited in general, but you felt compelled to do it numerous times today...

Meanwhile I've been working since a bit after 4am... real work.

tell me about your genius in investing in tech stocks again.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:55 am
by old salt
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:53 am
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:40 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:34 am
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:05 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:35 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:49 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:29 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:07 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:09 pm Culture Warrior; yeah!!!!

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1 ... 98/photo/1
Ya gotta admit, on a story like this, getting the preferred pronouns correct can be a challenge,
...& standy by to get canceled if you get one wrong.
Challenge? To do like 2 minutes of research per victim? Treating a human as a human being. Treating them how they wanted to be treated and not a talking point is about the least challenging thing to do in a major story like this. And a large part of their humanity.

They're not getting pronouns wrong on accident. It's not a challenge. And no one is "cancelling" them for that. The real "cancel culture" is murdering people for being themselves and not hurting anyone. Literally cancelling their life FFS. :roll:
Where does one go to do such research ? Is there a national registry of official preferred pronouns ?
Seriously? Their wallet is an unfortunate dead giveaway after getting killed by people who make jokes about pronouns. Ask loved ones. Look up their social media accounts.

You're saying it's challenging to do a few minutes the simplest journalistic research? It's like asking my kid where he left his shoes.
My daughter once cried because she couldn’t find her bike helmet while standing over it in our front porch…that’s what we’re talking about here -6yr old level stuff
Modelling her fathers behavior.
Says the person who responded like a salty little girl to my posts without any self reflection.

Literally "I know you are but what am I" repeatedly...
There's not enough bandwidth on this site to respond, in kind, to all of your cheap shots. That's why I usually don't reply.
Sure...I get that your mental bandidth is super limited in general, but you felt compelled to do it numerous times today...

Meanwhile I've been working since a bit after 4am... real work.

tell me about your genius in investing in tech stocks again.
...good week, back up to ~~ 4,000% LTCG

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:12 am
by elonmuskrockefeller
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:40 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:34 am
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:05 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:35 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:49 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:29 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:07 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:09 pm Culture Warrior; yeah!!!!

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1 ... 98/photo/1
Ya gotta admit, on a story like this, getting the preferred pronouns correct can be a challenge,
...& standy by to get canceled if you get one wrong.
Challenge? To do like 2 minutes of research per victim? Treating a human as a human being. Treating them how they wanted to be treated and not a talking point is about the least challenging thing to do in a major story like this. And a large part of their humanity.

They're not getting pronouns wrong on accident. It's not a challenge. And no one is "cancelling" them for that. The real "cancel culture" is murdering people for being themselves and not hurting anyone. Literally cancelling their life FFS. :roll:
Where does one go to do such research ? Is there a national registry of official preferred pronouns ?
Seriously? Their wallet is an unfortunate dead giveaway after getting killed by people who make jokes about pronouns. Ask loved ones. Look up their social media accounts.

You're saying it's challenging to do a few minutes the simplest journalistic research? It's like asking my kid where he left his shoes.
My daughter once cried because she couldn’t find her bike helmet while standing over it in our front porch…that’s what we’re talking about here -6yr old level stuff
Modelling her fathers behavior.
Says the person who responded like a salty little girl to my posts without any self reflection.

Literally "I know you are but what am I" repeatedly...
There's not enough bandwidth on this site to respond, in kind, to all of your cheap shots. That's why I usually don't reply.



OS:

It turns out the Colorado shooter was non-binary.

“They use they-them pronouns, and for the purposes of all formal filings, will be addressed as Mx. Aldrich,” the court document noted.

It's fascinating online to see Democrat struggle to decide who to feel more sorry for, the non-binary Mx Person, or the folks he murdered.

Meanwhile, Ben Collins, who just yesterday here at Fanlax was being lauded as a hero journalist, suffered whiplash last night as he pivoted from blaming Republicans for creating a MAGA lunatic shooter, to now blaming Republicans for picking on a non-binary Mx Person so much that he decided to murder some gay folks. Democratic Journalists and their craft, great work everyone :roll:

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:15 am
by elonmuskrockefeller
Brooklyn wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:27 am
PizzaSnake wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 9:04 am “Five people were killed and 18 were hurt late Saturday in a mass shooting at an LGBTQ nightclub in Colorado Springs in Colorado’s latest episode of mass violence.”

https://coloradosun.com/2022/11/20/club ... MAIL_ID%5D
No surprise that the bigoted gun man is a Republican.



Given the news that came out yesterday concerning Mx. Aldric, are you going to retract your comment above?

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:19 am
by elonmuskrockefeller
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 pm
old salt wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:07 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:09 pm Culture Warrior; yeah!!!!

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1 ... 98/photo/1
Ya gotta admit, on a story like this, getting the preferred pronouns correct can be a challenge,
...& standy by to get canceled if you get one wrong.
Challenge? To do like 2 minutes of research per victim? Treating a human as a human being. Treating them how they wanted to be treated and not a talking point is about the least challenging thing to do in a major story like this. And a large part of their humanity.

They're not getting pronouns wrong on accident. It's not a challenge. And no one is "cancelling" them for that. The real "cancel culture" is murdering people for being themselves and not hurting anyone. Literally cancelling their life FFS. :roll:


You "research" everyone you meet to decide what to call them?

Children seem to know the difference between males and females:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3wcxHiorJ4

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:19 am
by DMac
The pettiness on this thread is sickening.
Pronouns and Ds and Rs. Yeah, that's
what it's all about boys.
Carry on.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:25 am
by elonmuskrockefeller
Kismet wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:30 am
elonmuskrockefeller wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:20 am "It's hard to think of any person in the media today presented as "objective" yet is more an obvious, explicit, and blatant activist for the Democratic Party than Ben Collins. 'Disinformation', his self-styled field, is a scam industry. A censorship-mad activist parading as a journalist, who aligns with the scummiest Den groups to deplatform and silence."
Dear elmopetey - UP YOURS a-hole. :oops:


Speaking this morning of the young intrepid reporter Ben Coolins, Kismet, he did a 180 last night on the Colorado shooter.

Now that we learn the man is a non-binary person, Ben decided he's no longer a MAGA homophobe created by Tucker/Fox/Desantis/every Republican; nope, now he's a sensitive confused young man picked on by the same cast of characters because he wasn't a real dude.

You can not in a trillion years make up just how dishonest our media is. Such blatant lying and partisan angling, with their readers lapping it up unknowingly, thinking these jamokes are honest.

Thank god Musk reopened Twitter...it's the only hope we have for crowd-sourced honest news. You certainly ain't getting it from Ben Collins.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:26 am
by Farfromgeneva
DMac wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:19 am The pettiness on this thread is sickening.
Pronouns and Ds and Rs. Yeah, that's
what it's all about boys.
Carry on.
Agreed, my pushback is on someone who takes the humanity out of it. And where did that originate on this specific thread??? Same person everyone is responding too who will dead and no one will care except the person that owns their viatical settlment.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:35 am
by elonmuskrockefeller
DMac wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:19 am The pettiness on this thread is sickening.
Pronouns and Ds and Rs. Yeah, that's
what it's all about boys.
Carry on.


If that's directed at me, you're missing the point of my posts this morning, not to mention my actual feelings about pronouns. Not only do I not care in the least if a Colorado paper uses chosen pronouns to describe the deceased...I think it's honorable and right. I don't care if you want to call yourself a freaking donkey; have at it. I just don't waste my time considering pronouns until and unless you politely request I call you whatever tf you want to be called.

That's not even my issue, though I probably needed to say it so you don't trip over your anger.

The main issue this morning is the Colorado murderer we learned last night is non-binary and attempted a name change to reflect that (not to mention he attempted to kill his mother, who is conservative). There just ain't that many non-binary MAGA types floating in the ethernet. But just yesterday the hero journalists like Ben Colliins as well as some posters here were claiming that the shooter was 'MAGA', another 'Republican terrorist goddammit', and they are wrong for assuming things. Flat wrong.

Maybe wait a day before spiking the football? Who knows, maybe he's the only MAGA non-binary person in the universe. Let's wait to see what the deal is? Sometimes people are just bad people regardless of their politics.

Too many of the board's Democrats jump on subjects with absolutely zero clue what they are saying, and further don't have any desire to engage in civilized debate, then finally they mob up on posters for trying to be openly rational, leading to less engagement. That's why Joe Mauer, one of the better posters, is no longer here.

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:43 am
by old salt
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:26 am
Agreed, my pushback is on someone who takes the humanity out of it. And where did that originate on this specific thread??? Same person everyone is responding too who will dead and no one will care except the person that owns their viatical settlment.
That's BS. My post was merely about how difficult it can be to know someone's preferred pronouns in a situation like this.
...then the jackals descended.

Look at everything the WP dredged up, but they still couldn't determine the shooter's preferred pronouns.
How many times did they use "he/his" ?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... r-shooter/
LGBTQ club shooting suspect’s troubled past was obscured by a name change, records show
After suffering online bullying as a boy, Anderson Lee Aldrich altered his identity, documents confirm
By Joby Warrick, Robert Klemko, Razzan Nakhlawi, Alice Crites and Cate Brown
November 21, 2022 at 10:56 p.m. EST

Years before he allegedly walked into a Colorado LGBTQ bar with an assault-style rifle, the man now known as Anderson Lee Aldrich had a different name, and a tumultuous past.

Until age 15, he was known as Nicholas Brink, living in San Antonio, public records show. His parents separated when he was a toddler, and when he was 12, his mother, Laura Voepel, was arrested for suspected arson, according to court documents. She was later found guilty of a lesser offense in connection with the same incident.

At age 15, he became the target of a particularly vicious bout of online bullying in which insulting accusations were posted to a website, along with his name, photos and online aliases, according to a review of the site by The Washington Post. At some point, a YouTube account was created under his name, featuring a crude, profanity-laden animation under the title, “Asian homosexual gets molested.”

For unstated reasons, just before his 16th birthday, the young man petitioned a Texas court — with two of his grandparents’ names on the document — to legally change his entire name. His mother’s name did not appear on the petition.

Nicholas F. Brink became Anderson Lee Aldrich, who, at age 22, would gain infamy as the suspected shooter accused of killing at least five people and wounding 18 others inside the Colorado Springs bar known as Club Q. The reasons behind the choice of the new name were unclear.

Whether the events of Aldrich’s childhood had any bearing on Saturday’s horrific violence is unknown. But Aldrich’s earlier existence as Nicholas Brink, reported for the first time, offers possible answers to several key mysteries surrounding the suspected gunman. Public records and databases were oddly silent about Aldrich for the first two decades of his life.

In June 2021, Aldrich was arrested for an alleged bomb threat, one that prompted a partial evacuation of the Colorado Springs neighborhood where his mother lived at the time. He was charged with kidnapping and felony menacing, but was never prosecuted, for reasons that remain unclear. No bomb was ever found.

Despite his run-in with the law, some 17 months later, Aldrich was in possession of at least one weapon, a long gun, which he allegedly used in targeting customers and employees inside a nightclub long seen as a safe haven for the city’s gay and lesbian communities.

How the Colorado mass shooting unfolded — and ended — inside Club Q

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints confirmed in a statement to The Post that the alleged shooter was on the membership rolls of the church but had not been active in the Colorado Springs locations to the best of their knowledge.


The church, which until 2019 described people in same-sex marriages as “apostates,” condemned the shooting in a statement: “The senseless act of violence in Colorado Springs is of great sadness and concern to us. We are greatly troubled by any violence in our communities and condemn most especially violent acts that are the result of intolerance against any of God’s children.”

The mayor of Colorado Springs had said the shooting had “the trappings of a hate crime.” Asked Monday if the federal authorities would bring hate crime charges, Cole Finegan, the U.S. attorney for Colorado, said the Justice Department was “looking at all aspects of this case.”

Until now, no formal charges have been filed, and police remained tight-lipped about key details of the case. On Monday, Michael J. Allen, the district attorney for the area that includes Colorado Springs, said that Aldrich was likely to face murder and “bias-motivated” charges in connection with his arrest. Allen said formal charges were forthcoming.

Speaking at a news conference, Allen said records from the Club Q case had been placed under seal. His office had requested they be sealed, saying in a filing Monday morning that releasing them “could jeopardize” the prosecution.

Suthers and other officials deflected questions about whether Aldrich’s 2021 arrest could have led to a legal action, perhaps under Colorado’s 2019 red-flag law, to prevent the suspect from obtaining a weapon.

“Law enforcement agencies in appropriate circumstances should take advantage of it,” Suthers said of the law. “Hopefully there will be a time when there can be a specific discussion about any prior interaction with law enforcement.”

In 2019, Colorado’s legislature passed a red-flag law, which gave citizens and police departments the ability to petition a judge to have a Colorado resident’s weapons confiscated if the petitioner demonstrates that person is a danger to themselves or others.

New details about Aldrich’s 2021 incident emerged on Monday, shedding light on his disturbing behavior at the time. A video obtained by CNN appeared to show moments from a standoff between Aldrich and sheriff’s deputies who responded to reports of a bomb threat.

According to CNN, Leslie Bowman, the owner of the home where the standoff occurred, made a copy of the video before it was removed from social-media platforms. Screenshots from the video depict a visibly agitated young man wearing a helmet and what appeared to be body armor. The video shown by CNN shows the young man — identified by Bowman as Aldrich — daring law-enforcement officials to breach the house. It is not clear from the video if a bomb or weapons were present.

Little is known about what led to the confrontation. But records from Aldrich’s past as Nicholas Brink offer some insight into his formative years.

Brink was born in 2000 as the only son of Aaron and Laura (nee Voepel) Brink, of Orange, Calif., and a year later, in July 2001, the couple separated. Their divorce was finalized in September 2001, court records showed. Laura gained full custody of the toddler, along with an order forbidding any contact between father and son. In following years, she moved with her baby to Texas, living at times with the boy’s maternal grandmother.

Brink’s maternal grandfather is state Rep. Randy Voepel, a Republican assemblyman who in the past has aligned himself with the tea party movement and spoken in favor of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol. Voepel lost his seat in November after a redistricting change.

The family was living in San Antonio at the time of Laura Voepel’s arrest on arson-related charges in 2012. The case wound its way through a Texas court for several years, and according to court records, the defendant was ordered to undergo psychological evaluations and mandatory drug testing. Her trial resulted in the dismissal of the arson charge but she was found guilty on a lesser charge of criminal mischief.

The YouTube account under Brink’s name was opened in 2010, with a note to viewers of the channel that read, “wazzap guys, please help and subscribe.” The crude animation with the “Asian homosexual” label was added in 2012. The video received more than 300 views.

The online bullying incident that targeted Brink included photos of the then-15-year-old youth posted to a Wikipedia-like website, along with a fictitious biography riddled with insults and ridicule.

Months later, on April 28, 2016, a petition was filed in a Bexar County, Tex., court requesting a legal name change for the young man. The formal order, issued a week later, appeared under the simple heading: “Nicholas F. Brink to Anderson L. Aldrich.”

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:47 am
by elonmuskrockefeller
old salt wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:43 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:26 am
Agreed, my pushback is on someone who takes the humanity out of it. And where did that originate on this specific thread??? Same person everyone is responding too who will dead and no one will care except the person that owns their viatical settlment.
That's BS. My post was merely about how difficult it can be to know someone's preferred pronouns in a situation like this.
...then the jackals descended.

Look at everything the WP dredged up, but they still couldn't determine the shooter's preferred pronouns.
How many times did they use "he/him/his" ?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... r-shooter/
LGBTQ club shooting suspect’s troubled past was obscured by a name change, records show
After suffering online bullying as a boy, Anderson Lee Aldrich altered his identity, documents confirm
By Joby Warrick, Robert Klemko, Razzan Nakhlawi, Alice Crites and Cate Brown
November 21, 2022 at 10:56 p.m. EST

Years before he allegedly walked into a Colorado LGBTQ bar with an assault-style rifle, the man now known as Anderson Lee Aldrich had a different name, and a tumultuous past.

Until age 15, he was known as Nicholas Brink, living in San Antonio, public records show. His parents separated when he was a toddler, and when he was 12, his mother, Laura Voepel, was arrested for suspected arson, according to court documents. She was later found guilty of a lesser offense in connection with the same incident.

At age 15, he became the target of a particularly vicious bout of online bullying in which insulting accusations were posted to a website, along with his name, photos and online aliases, according to a review of the site by The Washington Post. At some point, a YouTube account was created under his name, featuring a crude, profanity-laden animation under the title, “Asian homosexual gets molested.”

For unstated reasons, just before his 16th birthday, the young man petitioned a Texas court — with two of his grandparents’ names on the document — to legally change his entire name. His mother’s name did not appear on the petition.

Nicholas F. Brink became Anderson Lee Aldrich, who, at age 22, would gain infamy as the suspected shooter accused of killing at least five people and wounding 18 others inside the Colorado Springs bar known as Club Q. The reasons behind the choice of the new name were unclear.

Whether the events of Aldrich’s childhood had any bearing on Saturday’s horrific violence is unknown. But Aldrich’s earlier existence as Nicholas Brink, reported for the first time, offers possible answers to several key mysteries surrounding the suspected gunman. Public records and databases were oddly silent about Aldrich for the first two decades of his life.

In June 2021, Aldrich was arrested for an alleged bomb threat, one that prompted a partial evacuation of the Colorado Springs neighborhood where his mother lived at the time. He was charged with kidnapping and felony menacing, but was never prosecuted, for reasons that remain unclear. No bomb was ever found.

Despite his run-in with the law, some 17 months later, Aldrich was in possession of at least one weapon, a long gun, which he allegedly used in targeting customers and employees inside a nightclub long seen as a safe haven for the city’s gay and lesbian communities.

How the Colorado mass shooting unfolded — and ended — inside Club Q

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints confirmed in a statement to The Post that the alleged shooter was on the membership rolls of the church but had not been active in the Colorado Springs locations to the best of their knowledge.


The church, which until 2019 described people in same-sex marriages as “apostates,” condemned the shooting in a statement: “The senseless act of violence in Colorado Springs is of great sadness and concern to us. We are greatly troubled by any violence in our communities and condemn most especially violent acts that are the result of intolerance against any of God’s children.”

The mayor of Colorado Springs had said the shooting had “the trappings of a hate crime.” Asked Monday if the federal authorities would bring hate crime charges, Cole Finegan, the U.S. attorney for Colorado, said the Justice Department was “looking at all aspects of this case.”

Until now, no formal charges have been filed, and police remained tight-lipped about key details of the case. On Monday, Michael J. Allen, the district attorney for the area that includes Colorado Springs, said that Aldrich was likely to face murder and “bias-motivated” charges in connection with his arrest. Allen said formal charges were forthcoming.

Speaking at a news conference, Allen said records from the Club Q case had been placed under seal. His office had requested they be sealed, saying in a filing Monday morning that releasing them “could jeopardize” the prosecution.

Suthers and other officials deflected questions about whether Aldrich’s 2021 arrest could have led to a legal action, perhaps under Colorado’s 2019 red-flag law, to prevent the suspect from obtaining a weapon.

“Law enforcement agencies in appropriate circumstances should take advantage of it,” Suthers said of the law. “Hopefully there will be a time when there can be a specific discussion about any prior interaction with law enforcement.”

In 2019, Colorado’s legislature passed a red-flag law, which gave citizens and police departments the ability to petition a judge to have a Colorado resident’s weapons confiscated if the petitioner demonstrates that person is a danger to themselves or others.

New details about Aldrich’s 2021 incident emerged on Monday, shedding light on his disturbing behavior at the time. A video obtained by CNN appeared to show moments from a standoff between Aldrich and sheriff’s deputies who responded to reports of a bomb threat.

According to CNN, Leslie Bowman, the owner of the home where the standoff occurred, made a copy of the video before it was removed from social-media platforms. Screenshots from the video depict a visibly agitated young man wearing a helmet and what appeared to be body armor. The video shown by CNN shows the young man — identified by Bowman as Aldrich — daring law-enforcement officials to breach the house. It is not clear from the video if a bomb or weapons were present.

Little is known about what led to the confrontation. But records from Aldrich’s past as Nicholas Brink offer some insight into his formative years.

Brink was born in 2000 as the only son of Aaron and Laura (nee Voepel) Brink, of Orange, Calif., and a year later, in July 2001, the couple separated. Their divorce was finalized in September 2001, court records showed. Laura gained full custody of the toddler, along with an order forbidding any contact between father and son. In following years, she moved with her baby to Texas, living at times with the boy’s maternal grandmother.

Brink’s maternal grandfather is state Rep. Randy Voepel, a Republican assemblyman who in the past has aligned himself with the tea party movement and spoken in favor of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol. Voepel lost his seat in November after a redistricting change.

The family was living in San Antonio at the time of Laura Voepel’s arrest on arson-related charges in 2012. The case wound its way through a Texas court for several years, and according to court records, the defendant was ordered to undergo psychological evaluations and mandatory drug testing. Her trial resulted in the dismissal of the arson charge but she was found guilty on a lesser charge of criminal mischief.

The YouTube account under Brink’s name was opened in 2010, with a note to viewers of the channel that read, “wazzap guys, please help and subscribe.” The crude animation with the “Asian homosexual” label was added in 2012. The video received more than 300 views.

The online bullying incident that targeted Brink included photos of the then-15-year-old youth posted to a Wikipedia-like website, along with a fictitious biography riddled with insults and ridicule.

Months later, on April 28, 2016, a petition was filed in a Bexar County, Tex., court requesting a legal name change for the young man. The formal order, issued a week later, appeared under the simple heading: “Nicholas F. Brink to Anderson L. Aldrich.”


Wapo sees the MAGA narrative fall part in real time:

Ahead of the hearing, attorneys for Aldrich submitted a court filing stating the suspect identifies as non-binary.

“They use they-them pronouns, and for the purposes of all formal filings, will be addressed as Mx. Aldrich,” the court document noted.


https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/23/us/color ... index.html

Re: The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:59 am
by dislaxxic
Why are Colorado law enforcement officials refusing to enforce existing red flag laws?

This perp seems the perfect example of someone that the red-flag law, duly enacted in Colorado, could have stopped...

Wut UP wit dat??

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