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Here is an interesting question for the forum.

If Elizabethtown defeats Catholic for the Landmark AQ, does Catholic get a Pool C bid to the tournament?

InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 10:13 pm

BigFella wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 10:07 pm

MDlacrosse45 wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 9:29 pm

BigFella wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 8:02 pm

laxbro1955 wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 4:37 pm Boy 18 goals at SSD very impressive
I stand corrected figured had to be playing attack

18 goals at d mid is something, lukasiewicz is a really good player. But he’s not the best d mid in the conference. Tough to judge a position like d mid based on numbers, especially goals. Stein from catholic was 1st team last year, and was even better this year.

Im gonna make a bold statement and say the SSDM with 18 goals is better than Stein. When a SSDM has 18 goals you can judge that position by the numbers

Sure, if the award was for best offensive d mid. Preston dabbs from Salisbury won national player of the year as a d mid in 2016 with ONE POINT on the season, I’m sure lots of other d kids had productive offensive seasons that year. Stein is one of the best, if not the best player on catholic and an all American candidate. Unfortunate voting. Of all the positions on the field you can’t judge this one on numbers. Considering this guy gets picked on every possession…

It then begs the question, being the best d mid- is it about offensive production or playing defense?

If he’s that good why is he picked on every possession? It then begs the question… is he that good?

Guess I should choose my words better but d mids typically are dodged on first, right? Most offenses initiate vs d mids

BigFella wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:14 pm

InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 10:13 pm

BigFella wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 10:07 pm

MDlacrosse45 wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 9:29 pm

BigFella wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 8:02 pm

laxbro1955 wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 4:37 pm Boy 18 goals at SSD very impressive
I stand corrected figured had to be playing attack

18 goals at d mid is something, lukasiewicz is a really good player. But he’s not the best d mid in the conference. Tough to judge a position like d mid based on numbers, especially goals. Stein from catholic was 1st team last year, and was even better this year.

Im gonna make a bold statement and say the SSDM with 18 goals is better than Stein. When a SSDM has 18 goals you can judge that position by the numbers

Sure, if the award was for best offensive d mid. Preston dabbs from Salisbury won national player of the year as a d mid in 2016 with ONE POINT on the season, I’m sure lots of other d kids had productive offensive seasons that year. Stein is one of the best, if not the best player on catholic and an all American candidate. Unfortunate voting. Of all the positions on the field you can’t judge this one on numbers. Considering this guy gets picked on every possession…

It then begs the question, being the best d mid- is it about offensive production or playing defense?

If he’s that good why is he picked on every possession? It then begs the question… is he that good?

Guess I should choose my words better but d mids typically are dodged on first, right? Most offenses initiate vs d mids

Lukasiewicz was formerly an attackman, then an offensive mid, now a defensive mid. Coach going to work for a productive team-first player. Sure, some politics may have been involved.

My question is, did anyone think the sophomore LSM from Drew was a first team guy? I don't know enough to have an opinion, but SOS and other factors kept Wilkie from the all-conference roster, seems like this was the weirdest selection to me.

SU not getting a single all-conference selection after making the playoffs seems like a snub. I know some will say ROTY is an all-conference spot, even though it's really not. Still...

LaxCrusader1 wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:34 pm

BigFella wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:14 pm

InsiderRoll wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 10:13 pm

BigFella wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 10:07 pm

MDlacrosse45 wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 9:29 pm

BigFella wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 8:02 pm

laxbro1955 wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 4:37 pm Boy 18 goals at SSD very impressive
I stand corrected figured had to be playing attack

18 goals at d mid is something, lukasiewicz is a really good player. But he’s not the best d mid in the conference. Tough to judge a position like d mid based on numbers, especially goals. Stein from catholic was 1st team last year, and was even better this year.

Im gonna make a bold statement and say the SSDM with 18 goals is better than Stein. When a SSDM has 18 goals you can judge that position by the numbers

Sure, if the award was for best offensive d mid. Preston dabbs from Salisbury won national player of the year as a d mid in 2016 with ONE POINT on the season, I’m sure lots of other d kids had productive offensive seasons that year. Stein is one of the best, if not the best player on catholic and an all American candidate. Unfortunate voting. Of all the positions on the field you can’t judge this one on numbers. Considering this guy gets picked on every possession…

It then begs the question, being the best d mid- is it about offensive production or playing defense?

If he’s that good why is he picked on every possession? It then begs the question… is he that good?

Guess I should choose my words better but d mids typically are dodged on first, right? Most offenses initiate vs d mids

Lukasiewicz was formerly an attackman, then an offensive mid, now a defensive mid. Coach going to work for a productive team-first player. Sure, some politics may have been involved.

My question is, did anyone think the sophomore LSM from Drew was a first team guy? I don't know enough to have an opinion, but SOS and other factors kept Wilkie from the all-conference roster, seems like this was the weirdest selection to me.

SU not getting a single all-conference selection after making the playoffs seems like a snub. I know some will say ROTY is an all-conference spot, even though it's really not. Still...

Fair point but who would it be?

Zaborowski at LSM, Dulin to the 1st team. Braught at SSDM, Stein to 1st team. Take your pick.

nevadajoe wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:00 pm Here is an interesting question for the forum.

If Elizabethtown defeats Catholic for the Landmark AQ, does Catholic get a Pool C bid to the tournament?

No, Landmark is a one bid conference.

Moan led team always seems to get snubbed at the all conference selections. He led a team with no all conference selections to the conference playoffs, hope he was at least considered for COY. Moravian once again had numerous all conference selections and once again missed the conference playoffs in a year where the bottom half of the conference was really bad. Seems like that is a reoccurring theme for Moravian....coincidence or coaching?

River Donkey wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 9:10 am

nevadajoe wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:00 pm Here is an interesting question for the forum.

If Elizabethtown defeats Catholic for the Landmark AQ, does Catholic get a Pool C bid to the tournament?

No, Landmark is a one bid conference.

Yes, that is usually the case. But Catholic is regionally ranked and might be considered for a Pool C bid like the losers of the Centennial, ODAC or MAC finals.

But I also think their only chance to make the tournament is to grab the AQ.

nevadajoe wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 9:46 am

River Donkey wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 9:10 am

nevadajoe wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:00 pm Here is an interesting question for the forum.

If Elizabethtown defeats Catholic for the Landmark AQ, does Catholic get a Pool C bid to the tournament?

No, Landmark is a one bid conference.

Yes, that is usually the case. But Catholic is regionally ranked and might be considered for a Pool C bid like the losers of the Centennial, ODAC or MAC finals.

But I also think their only chance to make the tournament is to grab the AQ.

No chance without AQ.

River Donkey wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 3:38 pm

nevadajoe wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 9:46 am

River Donkey wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 9:10 am

nevadajoe wrote: ↑Wed May 04, 2022 11:00 pm Here is an interesting question for the forum.

If Elizabethtown defeats Catholic for the Landmark AQ, does Catholic get a Pool C bid to the tournament?

No, Landmark is a one bid conference.

Yes, that is usually the case. But Catholic is regionally ranked and might be considered for a Pool C bid like the losers of the Centennial, ODAC or MAC finals.

But I also think their only chance to make the tournament is to grab the AQ.

No chance without AQ.

Keep in mind that they are currently ranked 7th. They will redo the regional rankings again on Sunday before making selections. They would likely drop to at least 9 in their region for losing to an unranked team in region. That should about knock them out of contention.

The championship game on Saturday will feature two teams that had a great rivalry since Elizabethtown joined the Landmark Conference in 2015.

They have faced each other three time for the championship. Catholic won a great overtime game 13-12 in 2016 on a goal with 3 seconds left in the first overtime by the great Catholic attackman, Tim Keith. Elizabethtown prevailed the next year by a 12-7 score featuirng a balanced offense and solid goalie play by Tom Mahoney. Catholic took the title last year 16-8.

Overall, they have played 12 games with Catholic holding a 7-5 advantage.

The regular season game this year was a 14-13 victory for the Cardinals. It was a back-and-forth contest all the way, highlighted by a 4-0 Catholic run in the 4th quarter to take a 3-goal lead with three minutes left and a furious rally by the Blue Jays that fell short by the one goal winning margin.

There will be some great match-ups on the field. Defensive POY vs. Offensive POY. The top two goalies and the top two faceoff guys in the conference. Both teams have excellent midfield play on both sides of the ball. And both coaches are smart and innovative.

Expect a close contest that might very well be decided late in the game. It might be one of the All-Conference selections making that big play. But each team has a strong supporting cast so we may see an unsung hero step up and make the difference.

Good luck to both teams.

Anyone have an Idea Why Wilkie from Drew didn't make a conf team with his stats. Seems a shame not rewarded for good play on a weaker team. I didn't see him play that often so really have no opinion.

Brain here. My favorite match up of the year and I get to see it for a second time! The script will be flipped this time around. There’s a reason the guys in Etown owned all conference accolades and player of the year didn’t go to Crawley. This isn’t D1 anymore, tissue paper. Etown by 3, catholic is more worried about Roe vs Wade than watching film for this game.

Brain wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 10:27 pm Brain here. My favorite match up of the year and I get to see it for a second time! The script will be flipped this time around. There’s a reason the guys in Etown owned all conference accolades and player of the year didn’t go to Crawley. This isn’t D1 anymore, tissue paper. Etown by 3, catholic is more worried about Roe vs Wade than watching film for this game.

I would imagine Catholic isn’t looking past an opponent they beat by 1 the first time around. Crawley wasn’t the player of the year because he missed multiple games due to injury. POY had 0 points in the conference semi final…this isn’t the regular season anymore. Catholic by 6

MDlacrosse45 wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 10:31 pm

Brain wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 10:27 pm Brain here. My favorite match up of the year and I get to see it for a second time! The script will be flipped this time around. There’s a reason the guys in Etown owned all conference accolades and player of the year didn’t go to Crawley. This isn’t D1 anymore, tissue paper. Etown by 3, catholic is more worried about Roe vs Wade than watching film for this game.

I would imagine Catholic isn’t looking past an opponent they beat by 1 the first time around. Crawley wasn’t the player of the year because he missed multiple games due to injury. POY had 0 points in the conference semi final…this isn’t the regular season anymore. Catholic by 6

MDlacrosse45? Must be Crawleys dads burner account. If there’s one thing I know about Yake, is that he puts the “E” in town. You can figure that one out yourself.

Brain chiming in with some world class takes yet again.

Someones dad here too.

Also intrigued why Hillery is DPOY over Mills from Etown a bit, anybody have a take on that. Mills numbers are better and anchors a defense that I’d say is better than Catholic’s, marginally better on paper giving up half a goal less. If it weren’t for some poor officiating Etown would have carried that 7-6 lead and won

MDlacrosse45 wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 10:31 pm

Brain wrote: ↑Thu May 05, 2022 10:27 pm Brain here. My favorite match up of the year and I get to see it for a second time! The script will be flipped this time around. There’s a reason the guys in Etown owned all conference accolades and player of the year didn’t go to Crawley. This isn’t D1 anymore, tissue paper. Etown by 3, catholic is more worried about Roe vs Wade than watching film for this game.

I would imagine Catholic isn’t looking past an opponent they beat by 1 the first time around. Crawley wasn’t the player of the year because he missed multiple games due to injury. POY had 0 points in the conference semi final…this isn’t the regular season anymore. Catholic by 6

Just to present the facts here, Scranton's game plan included locking off the POY mostly with with their All-Conference SSDM and challenge the other members of the offense to beat them. It was a brilliant strategy and almost worked. POY only had 2 shots the entire game. His attack line mates had 7 goals on 15 shots and the middies had 8 goals on 21 shots. There were 3 goals by specialists, one by the faceoff guy and 2 excellent goals by their SSDM in transition.

Saturday's battle should be high-scoring and a big challenge to each team's defensive game plan.

I agree with you on Scrantons game plan but I think the real reason was that Brayden Etowns goalie had his worst game of the season and lot has to do with the games before were blowouts and he didn't get much playing time between the pipes. They were playing 3 to 4 goalies a game . Hopefully he had his bad game and now going against Catholic will be a different game. Not picking a team to win but I think Etown showed a lot by not giving up and winning the game compared to Catholic having an easy win. Should be a good game for sure both teams have similar talent will be who wants it more. Its been nice for Catholic with getting to play them 4 times in a row at home. Dont know how that happened. good luck to both teams.