Syracuse 2022

[Brooklyn]

A solid lineup with deep bench. That's what we want for Cuse. Now let's hope the lines are well matched, a good game plan is set in place for each game, and that the injury bug is kept away.

One more thing: let's hope that the NCAA doesn't decide Cuse has violated any compliance regs. Will keep my fingers crossed ...


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[HooDat]

TD Ierlan named as volunteer coach for Syracuse

The whole story is a little interesting. As I understand it, Gary Gait had him hired as a full-time salaried and benefited position at Gait Lacrosse while simultaneously hiring him as the volunteer. He has a no show job with Gait lacrosse so that he can solely do the volunteer job. Effectively Gary Gait is paying salary and benefits for a volunteer. I understand a lot do this through camps (kind of) but this arrangement seems like a pretty obvious violation if correct.

Do you have a specific rule this is breaking? Gary would have to clear this hire thru compliance so if he’s working at Gait and as a volunteer, the presumption would be this has been looked at/cleared and thus no violation.

I wonder if the order helps. If TD was working for Gait Lacrosse before Gary was hired as the men's coach, then it looks a lot less like quid pro quo.

[DMac]

But, Hoo, you don't think for one second that DP or GG, both of whom, as you well know, have many years of coaching experience in the world of NCAA lacrosse are going to put themselves in a precarious spot of "obvious violation" by doing something as dumb as what has been suggested, do you? As has been noted, there's a compliance officer at Cuse and I find it highly unlikely that Gary wouldn't check with him before making such a move. Frankly, I think InsiderRoll went on a bullschidter roll just to stir the pot and get people riled up.

[HopFan16]

But, Hoo, you don't think for one second that DP or GG, both of whom, as you well know, have many years of coaching experience in the world of NCAA lacrosse are going to put themselves in a precarious spot of "obvious violation"

I dunno, one of Petro's final acts as head coach at Hopkins was literally overseeing a program-wide financial aid violation. And I don't think we need to get into the Gait family's history of NCAA infractions.

[DMac]

Another bullschitder coming on to stir the pot, and you just knew someone would take the cheap shot.
Neither of the Gaits have a history of knowingly violating NCAA regs, your dig is better suited directed
at Simmie and if you ever sat down and talked with him about the whole deal you might have a different
opinion about the violation.

[HopFan16]

Another bullschitder coming on to stir the pot, and you just knew someone would take the cheap shot.
Neither of the Gaits have a history of knowingly violating NCAA regs, your dig is better suited directed
at Simmie and if you ever sat down and talked with him about the whole deal you might have a different
opinion about the violation.

Relax

[DMac]

I'm good, 16, don't you worry about me, brotha.

[HooDat]

But, Hoo, you don't think for one second that DP or GG, both of whom, as you well know, have many years of coaching experience in the world of NCAA lacrosse are going to put themselves in a precarious spot of "obvious violation" by doing something as dumb as what has been suggested, do you? As has been noted, there's a compliance officer at Cuse and I find it highly unlikely that Gary wouldn't check with him before making such a move. Frankly, I think InsiderRoll went on a bullschidter roll just to stir the pot and get people riled up.

Yes, I agree. I was just spitballing on one possible way the compliance department may have gotten comfortable with the situation.

[InsiderRoll]

Another bullschitder coming on to stir the pot, and you just knew someone would take the cheap shot.
Neither of the Gaits have a history of knowingly violating NCAA regs, your dig is better suited directed
at Simmie and if you ever sat down and talked with him about the whole deal you might have a different
opinion about the violation.

Yeah not a hater, just saying I’ve heard this from multiple sources. A compliance department may have reviewed it and said it is the same as a coach paying a volunteer from his LLC Camp. IDK? I’m just saying it is a shady way of paying a volunteer. Compliance departments also self mandate and self report. If Syracuse doesn’t feel it’s against the rules then they won’t report, other compliance departments may interpret the rule differently and chose not to approve it. I’ve worked in a Power 5 athletic department? Have you?

[InsiderRoll]

TD Ierlan named as volunteer coach for Syracuse

The whole story is a little interesting. As I understand it, Gary Gait had him hired as a full-time salaried and benefited position at Gait Lacrosse while simultaneously hiring him as the volunteer. He has a no show job with Gait lacrosse so that he can solely do the volunteer job. Effectively Gary Gait is paying salary and benefits for a volunteer. I understand a lot do this through camps (kind of) but this arrangement seems like a pretty obvious violation if correct.

Do you have a specific rule this is breaking? Gary would have to clear this hire thru compliance so if he’s working at Gait and as a volunteer, the presumption would be this has been looked at/cleared and thus no violation.

I wonder if the order helps. If TD was working for Gait Lacrosse before Gary was hired as the men's coach, then it looks a lot less like quid pro quo.

That probably does help, a lot.

[CrazyPeople]

TD Ierlan named as volunteer coach for Syracuse

The whole story is a little interesting. As I understand it, Gary Gait had him hired as a full-time salaried and benefited position at Gait Lacrosse while simultaneously hiring him as the volunteer. He has a no show job with Gait lacrosse so that he can solely do the volunteer job. Effectively Gary Gait is paying salary and benefits for a volunteer. I understand a lot do this through camps (kind of) but this arrangement seems like a pretty obvious violation if correct.

Do you have a specific rule this is breaking? Gary would have to clear this hire thru compliance so if he’s working at Gait and as a volunteer, the presumption would be this has been looked at/cleared and thus no violation.

I wonder if the order helps. If TD was working for Gait Lacrosse before Gary was hired as the men's coach, then it looks a lot less like quid pro quo.

That probably does help, a lot.

Which could explain why it's taken so long to announce his hire at 'Cuse, although the entire lacrosse world has known he was going to be the volunteer since June.

[wgdsr]

ok, i'll join the nonsense. was there any announcement anywhere of ierlan working at gait lacrosse?
not that there needs to be, but given he may be a marketing tool in some way, you'd think there might be.

[OCanada]

Hopfan That sim you made is libelous eso given its untrue. Hopkins has someone charged with compliance. Seems apparent it is a compliance failure. Never woukd have happened with Calder.

[stupefied]

Maybe take the chance disguising and dressing him for games.

[HopFan16]

Hopfan That sim you made is libelous

LOL. It's libelous to say Petro oversaw a financial aid violation? Somebody better sue the NCAA!

https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/me ... e-programs

The parties agreed that the men's lacrosse head coach worked with multiple student-athletes and/or their families to reduce their scholarships, resulting in the school not providing 12 student-athletes with a written notification of the reductions to their scholarships or information about a hearing opportunity. The school also did not have an established hearing process available to student-athletes whose scholarships were reduced or canceled, which is required under NCAA rules.

Not sure you want to play the "never would have happened under the old AD" game considering some of the stuff that did go on under him.

This was a small violation—was meant as a joke but clearly certain parties are incapable of admitting the previous staff ever made mistakes.

[DocBarrister]

Hopfan That sim you made is libelous

LOL. It's libelous to say Petro oversaw a financial aid violation? Somebody better sue the NCAA!

https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/me ... e-programs

The parties agreed that the men's lacrosse head coach worked with multiple student-athletes and/or their families to reduce their scholarships, resulting in the school not providing 12 student-athletes with a written notification of the reductions to their scholarships or information about a hearing opportunity. The school also did not have an established hearing process available to student-athletes whose scholarships were reduced or canceled, which is required under NCAA rules.

Not sure you want to play the "never would have happened under the old AD" game considering some of the stuff that did go on under him.

This was a small violation—was meant as a joke but clearly certain parties are incapable of admitting the previous staff ever made mistakes.

OCanada’s remarks are incredibly off the mark. Petro had nearly a quarter century of head coaching experience. He had to know the rules. It’s a clear violation of the rules. Can’t put this completely on “compliance” or the AD. Indeed, it’s absolutely absurd to do so.

DocBarrister

[OCanada]

Hopfan you write crap about topics you know nothing about. Its just BS.

[HopFan16]

Hopfan you write crap about topics you know nothing about. Its just BS.

I literally just linked to the NCAA website

[OCanada]

You and 51% literally misrepresented facts. What i am unsure of is whether you lied or just gave way to base impulse.

The NCAA states the problem began in academic year 2016/2017. Tom Calder announced his change of position in January 2016. Academic year 2015/2016. The issue is the failure of the successor. Has any AD ever served a shorter term than she did.

BTW at one time in his career TC worked in NCAA compliance and was always meticulous about it knowing the place lax played at Hopkins.


Let me help you .. quoting the NCAA

During the spring and summer of 2020, the institution discovered that multiple Division I financial aid violations occurred during the 2016-17 through 2019-20 academic years.

[runrussellrun]

Another bullschitder coming on to stir the pot, and you just knew someone would take the cheap shot.
Neither of the Gaits have a history of knowingly violating NCAA regs, your dig is better suited directed
at Simmie and if you ever sat down and talked with him about the whole deal you might have a different
opinion about the violation.

Relax

You added an "S" to violation.......assuming you meant multiple ?

Dude......plenty of well hidden dirt on the Homewood homies. Rolling suspensions, DUI's.......drug test failures........all down in "charm" city...HUN.

man.....relax