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No more transfers. The staff got what they wanted.
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Rutgers men’s lacrosse continues to reload roster through transfer portal

Three more experienced players reportedly joined the program this week in Toby Burgdorf, Sam Stephan and Brian Cameron.
By Aaron Breitman @aaron_breitman Jun 17, 2021, 8:38am EDT

The roster transition for Rutgers men’s lacrosse continues to be focused on the transfer portal. After having the program’s most successful season in 31 years in large part due to major contributions from a 16 member senior class, head coach Brian Brecht is adding several experienced players to the roster for next season.

Last week, we covered three transfers joining the program led by Penn’s Mitch Bartolo. The experienced midfielder and former captain of the Quakers was one of the most sought after transfers on the market. In addition, In addition, a pair of Division III All-Americans in Wesleyan star Ronan Jacoby and Salisbury’s Brad Apgar will play their final seasons on the banks as well.

This week, Rutgers has reportedly added three more transfers that can make a big impact for the team next season.

Lacrosse Bucket’s Tanner Demling reported that Providence goalie Toby Burgdorf is joining the program. The Second Team All-Big East netminder averaged 12.54 saves per game with a .509 save percentage and 12.36 goals against average last season. He made 15 or more saves in five games including a season high 20 saves against Georgetown, which made the NCAA Tournament Quarterfinals. The Westfield, New Jersey native will play his final season in his home state and brings two years of starting experience with him. Whether he ultimately starts remains to be seen, but adding a player of his caliber to the mix is a big positive after the program looks to replace All-American Colin Kirst for next season.

Also this week it was reported that Sam Stephan was transferring from Mount St. Mary’s to Rutgers. The Millstone, New Jersey native won 56.3% of face off attempts and led his team with 63 ground balls last season. He has won at least 52% of face off attempts in all four seasons of his college career.

Stephan will compete with Jonathan Dugenio for playing time next season after the St. John’s transfer was the primary face off man this past spring. The Scarlet Knights struggled with face offs last season, but to Dugenio’s credit he played really well in the NCAA Tournament. He went head to head against the nation’s best in Mike Sisselberger and won two late face offs which led to assisting on two goals from Connor Kirst in a seven second span to clinch the victory over Lehigh. Dugenio also won 15 of 27 face offs in the Quarterfinals against no. 1 North Carolina. The competition between Dugenio and Stephan next season will be fun to watch. Expect both players to have opportunities to make an impact.

Additionally, it was reported by Kyle Devitte of New England Lacrosse Journal on Thursday night that North Carolina attackman Brian Cameron is now the sixth transfer to join Rutgers this offseason. He was seventh on UNC with 16 goals behind 7 starts las the Tarheels ended RU’s season en route to the program’s 14th Final Four appearance. Cameron is graduating from Carolina but has two years of eligibility remaining. This is an intriguing addition to the front line for the Scarlet Knights.

For Rutgers to maintain the level of success that they had this past season, improving the talent level and depth of the roster is the key. Credit Brecht for being so active in adding experienced players that have the potential to be big factors next season. Improving the competition among their respective position groups will go a long way towards pushing Rutgers forward as they attempt to make the NCAA Tournament in back to back seasons for the first time since 2003 and 2004.
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1766, you know Rutgers will not pursue more from the portal?
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I am sure if one or two high potential players fell out of a tree there would be room but I don't see that happening at this point. The staff is surely happy with their haul.
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Matnum PI wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:27 pm Rutgers men’s lacrosse continues to reload roster through transfer portal

Three more experienced players reportedly joined the program this week in Toby Burgdorf, Sam Stephan and Brian Cameron.
By Aaron Breitman @aaron_breitman Jun 17, 2021, 8:38am EDT

The roster transition for Rutgers men’s lacrosse continues to be focused on the transfer portal. After having the program’s most successful season in 31 years in large part due to major contributions from a 16 member senior class, head coach Brian Brecht is adding several experienced players to the roster for next season.

Last week, we covered three transfers joining the program led by Penn’s Mitch Bartolo. The experienced midfielder and former captain of the Quakers was one of the most sought after transfers on the market. In addition, In addition, a pair of Division III All-Americans in Wesleyan star Ronan Jacoby and Salisbury’s Brad Apgar will play their final seasons on the banks as well.

This week, Rutgers has reportedly added three more transfers that can make a big impact for the team next season.

Lacrosse Bucket’s Tanner Demling reported that Providence goalie Toby Burgdorf is joining the program. The Second Team All-Big East netminder averaged 12.54 saves per game with a .509 save percentage and 12.36 goals against average last season. He made 15 or more saves in five games including a season high 20 saves against Georgetown, which made the NCAA Tournament Quarterfinals. The Westfield, New Jersey native will play his final season in his home state and brings two years of starting experience with him. Whether he ultimately starts remains to be seen, but adding a player of his caliber to the mix is a big positive after the program looks to replace All-American Colin Kirst for next season.

Also this week it was reported that Sam Stephan was transferring from Mount St. Mary’s to Rutgers. The Millstone, New Jersey native won 56.3% of face off attempts and led his team with 63 ground balls last season. He has won at least 52% of face off attempts in all four seasons of his college career.

Stephan will compete with Jonathan Dugenio for playing time next season after the St. John’s transfer was the primary face off man this past spring. The Scarlet Knights struggled with face offs last season, but to Dugenio’s credit he played really well in the NCAA Tournament. He went head to head against the nation’s best in Mike Sisselberger and won two late face offs which led to assisting on two goals from Connor Kirst in a seven second span to clinch the victory over Lehigh. Dugenio also won 15 of 27 face offs in the Quarterfinals against no. 1 North Carolina. The competition between Dugenio and Stephan next season will be fun to watch. Expect both players to have opportunities to make an impact.

Additionally, it was reported by Kyle Devitte of New England Lacrosse Journal on Thursday night that North Carolina attackman Brian Cameron is now the sixth transfer to join Rutgers this offseason. He was seventh on UNC with 16 goals behind 7 starts las the Tarheels ended RU’s season en route to the program’s 14th Final Four appearance. Cameron is graduating from Carolina but has two years of eligibility remaining. This is an intriguing addition to the front line for the Scarlet Knights.

For Rutgers to maintain the level of success that they had this past season, improving the talent level and depth of the roster is the key. Credit Brecht for being so active in adding experienced players that have the potential to be big factors next season. Improving the competition among their respective position groups will go a long way towards pushing Rutgers forward as they attempt to make the NCAA Tournament in back to back seasons for the first time since 2003 and 2004.
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Wow … the owners of the Rutgers lacrosse team must have loads of cash to afford all those free agent contracts!

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DocBarrister wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:25 pm
Matnum PI wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:27 pm Rutgers men’s lacrosse continues to reload roster through transfer portal

Three more experienced players reportedly joined the program this week in Toby Burgdorf, Sam Stephan and Brian Cameron.
By Aaron Breitman @aaron_breitman Jun 17, 2021, 8:38am EDT

The roster transition for Rutgers men’s lacrosse continues to be focused on the transfer portal. After having the program’s most successful season in 31 years in large part due to major contributions from a 16 member senior class, head coach Brian Brecht is adding several experienced players to the roster for next season.

Last week, we covered three transfers joining the program led by Penn’s Mitch Bartolo. The experienced midfielder and former captain of the Quakers was one of the most sought after transfers on the market. In addition, In addition, a pair of Division III All-Americans in Wesleyan star Ronan Jacoby and Salisbury’s Brad Apgar will play their final seasons on the banks as well.

This week, Rutgers has reportedly added three more transfers that can make a big impact for the team next season.

Lacrosse Bucket’s Tanner Demling reported that Providence goalie Toby Burgdorf is joining the program. The Second Team All-Big East netminder averaged 12.54 saves per game with a .509 save percentage and 12.36 goals against average last season. He made 15 or more saves in five games including a season high 20 saves against Georgetown, which made the NCAA Tournament Quarterfinals. The Westfield, New Jersey native will play his final season in his home state and brings two years of starting experience with him. Whether he ultimately starts remains to be seen, but adding a player of his caliber to the mix is a big positive after the program looks to replace All-American Colin Kirst for next season.

Also this week it was reported that Sam Stephan was transferring from Mount St. Mary’s to Rutgers. The Millstone, New Jersey native won 56.3% of face off attempts and led his team with 63 ground balls last season. He has won at least 52% of face off attempts in all four seasons of his college career.

Stephan will compete with Jonathan Dugenio for playing time next season after the St. John’s transfer was the primary face off man this past spring. The Scarlet Knights struggled with face offs last season, but to Dugenio’s credit he played really well in the NCAA Tournament. He went head to head against the nation’s best in Mike Sisselberger and won two late face offs which led to assisting on two goals from Connor Kirst in a seven second span to clinch the victory over Lehigh. Dugenio also won 15 of 27 face offs in the Quarterfinals against no. 1 North Carolina. The competition between Dugenio and Stephan next season will be fun to watch. Expect both players to have opportunities to make an impact.

Additionally, it was reported by Kyle Devitte of New England Lacrosse Journal on Thursday night that North Carolina attackman Brian Cameron is now the sixth transfer to join Rutgers this offseason. He was seventh on UNC with 16 goals behind 7 starts las the Tarheels ended RU’s season en route to the program’s 14th Final Four appearance. Cameron is graduating from Carolina but has two years of eligibility remaining. This is an intriguing addition to the front line for the Scarlet Knights.

For Rutgers to maintain the level of success that they had this past season, improving the talent level and depth of the roster is the key. Credit Brecht for being so active in adding experienced players that have the potential to be big factors next season. Improving the competition among their respective position groups will go a long way towards pushing Rutgers forward as they attempt to make the NCAA Tournament in back to back seasons for the first time since 2003 and 2004.
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Wow … the owners of the Rutgers lacrosse team must have loads of cash to afford all those free agent contracts!

DocBarrister :shock: ;)
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At Hopkins? What girls lol?
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Rutgers has a definite edge over Hop there. Large selection.
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Towson supplies plenty for Hopkins
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1766 wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:17 pm No more transfers. The staff got what they wanted.
Well they just added another defenseman from Bucknell.

https://twitter.com/Chris_Jast/status/1 ... 8059110402
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PulpExposure wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:41 pm
1766 wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:17 pm No more transfers. The staff got what they wanted.
Well they just added another defenseman from Bucknell.

https://twitter.com/Chris_Jast/status/1 ... 8059110402
Isn’t it about time that we discuss the Ship of Theseus Paradox as it applies to the Rutgers lacrosse team?

The ship of Theseus, also known as Theseus' paradox, is a thought experiment that raises the question of whether an object that has had all of its components replaced remains fundamentally the same object. The paradox is most notably recorded by Plutarch in Life of Theseus from the late first century. Plutarch asked whether a ship that had been restored by replacing every single wooden part remained the same ship.

https://human.libretexts.org/Bookshelve ... of_Theseus

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DocBarrister wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:29 pm
PulpExposure wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:41 pm
1766 wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:17 pm No more transfers. The staff got what they wanted.
Well they just added another defenseman from Bucknell.

https://twitter.com/Chris_Jast/status/1 ... 8059110402
Isn’t it about time that we discuss the Ship of Theseus Paradox as it applies to the Rutgers lacrosse team?

The ship of Theseus, also known as Theseus' paradox, is a thought experiment that raises the question of whether an object that has had all of its components replaced remains fundamentally the same object. The paradox is most notably recorded by Plutarch in Life of Theseus from the late first century. Plutarch asked whether a ship that had been restored by replacing every single wooden part remained the same ship.

https://human.libretexts.org/Bookshelve ... of_Theseus

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Rutgers beat Hopkins.......often.


Does that make Hopkins an OAR?
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runrussellrun wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:52 pm
DocBarrister wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:29 pm
PulpExposure wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:41 pm
1766 wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:17 pm No more transfers. The staff got what they wanted.
Well they just added another defenseman from Bucknell.

https://twitter.com/Chris_Jast/status/1 ... 8059110402
Isn’t it about time that we discuss the Ship of Theseus Paradox as it applies to the Rutgers lacrosse team?

The ship of Theseus, also known as Theseus' paradox, is a thought experiment that raises the question of whether an object that has had all of its components replaced remains fundamentally the same object. The paradox is most notably recorded by Plutarch in Life of Theseus from the late first century. Plutarch asked whether a ship that had been restored by replacing every single wooden part remained the same ship.

https://human.libretexts.org/Bookshelve ... of_Theseus

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Rutgers beat Hopkins.......often.


Does that make Hopkins an OAR?
6/27 is often? :lol:
https://hopkinssports.com/sports/mens-l ... utgers/125
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DocBarrister wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:29 pm Isn’t it about time that we discuss the Ship of Theseus Paradox as it applies to the Rutgers lacrosse team?

The ship of Theseus, also known as Theseus' paradox, is a thought experiment that raises the question of whether an object that has had all of its components replaced remains fundamentally the same object. The paradox is most notably recorded by Plutarch in Life of Theseus from the late first century. Plutarch asked whether a ship that had been restored by replacing every single wooden part remained the same ship.

https://human.libretexts.org/Bookshelve ... of_Theseus

DocBarrister ;)
This is too much, Doc, kinda makes me think that people have been smokin' pot for a really long time. I thought today's pot was far more potent than that of the past, but this makes me second guess that.
The answer to number one is no.
To long pondered question number one, the answer is yes, it is still fundamentally the same object, it will still do the task it was designed to do. Easy question.
The answer is no to long pondered question number two. It is a different ship with the same anchor.
The answer to the axe question is no too. When you have a different handle and different head, you don't have the same axe. That one aint hard either.
I didn't even have to spend 60K a year to figure all that out.
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PulpExposure wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:41 pm
1766 wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:17 pm No more transfers. The staff got what they wanted.
Well they just added another defenseman from Bucknell.

https://twitter.com/Chris_Jast/status/1 ... 8059110402
Clearly a great take. I don't know this was expected. Congratulations to the entire staff. They are having an incredible offseason.
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wgdsr wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:22 pm
jrn19 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:20 pm
jerseyjames wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:06 pm
wgdsr wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:56 pm
jerseyjames wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:47 pm
wgdsr wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:55 pm
1766 wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:15 pm Couple of things:
2) Kirst is still in play for another year. Unless you've been living under a rock, the new, softer NCAA is almost a rubber stamp to allow these late date redshirts. It's certainly not a done deal yet, but if it happens, don't be at all surprised.

If he comes back, with all that is coming back on defense, including new additions, throwing Kirst back in goal will have that side of the ball as one of the best in the country.
under what rule or exception would connor kirst be coming back to play? if you know.
This guy HATES the idea of *Colin Kirst coming back for another year, idk who peed in your cherrios. Kid finally found a home and got in opportunity in the same crease his dad used to play in but wgdsr won't stand for it unless he gets 6 points of ID on why this kid should get an extra year in a time where it has never been easier to get an extra year in the history of the NCAA...
no idea why you think i have any problem with him or anyone else getting a year that's within the rules (which will be the only way he gets one).
the subject has been brought up. repeatedly and vaguely. should we not ask what the angle is?
The NCAA made modifications to rules on what constitutes a season and made it easier for the athlete to play more, ie the transfer portal as well (probably a ploy to distract from the pay the player discussion, I digress) Art Sitkowski the RU starting QB a few years ago STARTED the first 4 or 5 games of the season before Ash was fired, withdrew from the team midseason to preserve a year of eligibility so if were talking about 19 min in Feb yea I think the kid isn't gonna have a problem getting that year back... So I can't give you the exact bylaw or the section and sub section of the rule but things like this happen often in recent years
Football changed the rules though to allow players to play in 4 games and still redshirt. To my knowledge lacrosse did not have such a similar rule change.
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summer's too short. as usual. but... hopefully we stay open enough with schools and sports and yada to have a great leaf turn! lfg!!!
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wgdsr wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:45 pm summer's too short. as usual. but... hopefully we stay open enough with schools and sports and yada to have a great leaf turn! lfg!!!
Oh, we are going alright. You'll love this news.
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1766 wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:49 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Aug 17, 2021 5:45 pm summer's too short. as usual. but... hopefully we stay open enough with schools and sports and yada to have a great leaf turn! lfg!!!
Oh, we are going alright. You'll love this news.
probably just going to be interested in the why and how.
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