Ron Desantis (The Desantis Doctrine)

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njbill wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:46 pm Great chyron running on CNN right now:

“Donors grumbling about Desantis’ lack of charm.”

:lol:

Truer words were never spoke.
+1 he is a human turd. Did you see his wife and kids all dolled up trying to be Jackie-O & kids?

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njbill wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:46 pm Great chyron running on CNN right now:

“Donors grumbling about Desantis’ lack of charm.”

:lol:

Truer words were never spoke.
Peter Brown thought he was charasmatic. But since that guy was awful it should be a signal as to Desantis' idiocy.
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DeSantis truly is the embodiment of un-American fascist anti-free speech partisan radicalism:


Judge rules for Florida's DeSantis against DEMOCRAT prosecutor for abortion stance


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/judge- ... 023-01-20/


Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, considered a possible 2024 Republican presidential contender, will not be forced to reinstate an elected state prosecutor he suspended over his pledge not to bring criminal cases against people seeking or providing abortions, a federal judge ruled on Friday.

U.S. District Judge Robert Hinkle in the state capital, Tallahassee, ruled against prosecutor Andrew Warren, a Democrat, in his lawsuit seeking to be reinstated as head of the state attorney's office in Tampa. DeSantis on Aug. 4 barred Warren from performing any official "act, duty or function of public office."

Hinkle found that Warren's suspension violated Florida's state constitution and also the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment protection for speech. But the judge said the U.S. Constitution barred him from issuing a reinstatement order "against a state official based only on a violation of state law." The court also said "the suspension would have occurred even had there been no First Amendment violation."

Warren, appearing in public on Friday afternoon in Tampa to address the court's ruling, said "the suspension was always a political stunt" and not any "pursuit of justice."

"The judge wrote, 'If the facts matter, the governor can simply rescind the suspension,'" Warren said, quoting from sections of the ruling that criticized the governor's actions.

A DeSantis representative did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment.

Florida law bans abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy.

The prosecutor, who won re-election in 2020 as the Hillsborough County state attorney, sued DeSantis in August, claiming that the governor retaliated unlawfully against him for political reasons after he joined prosecutors around the country on June 24 in signing a statement vowing not to use their offices to criminalize reproductive health decisions.

A frequent critic of DeSantis, Warren argued in the lawsuit that his abortion stance was protected under the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment guarantee of free speech and that the governor's action also usurped the authority given to state attorneys under the Florida Constitution.

The lawsuit said the litigation was intended "to confirm that the First Amendment still applies even though DeSantis is the Governor of Florida and that the Constitution of the State of Florida means what the courts say it means, not whatever DeSantis needs it to mean to silence his critics, promote his loyalists, and subvert the will of the voters."

Hinkle, appointed to his judgeship by Democratic President Bill Clinton in 1996, presided over a three-day nonjury trial that began on Nov. 29.

Lawyers for DeSantis argued that the governor suspended Warren from office not over his speech but his conduct as a prosecutor. The governor's attorneys said DeSantis "construed Mr. Warren's statements to be either blanket refusals to enforce Florida law or evidence that Mr. Warren was grossly ignorant of his official responsibilities."

Warren has said his office does not have a blanket policy on not prosecuting abortion-related cases.



As always, the right wing engages in speech and freedom suppression. Where are the howls of protest from the far right who are always preaching "freedom" when it suits them?
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Ron the Racist at it again...

Florida's Department of Education has rejected an Advanced Placement course covering African American studies — saying the class indoctrinates students to "a political agenda."

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/22/11502599 ... an-studies

He has nothing wrong with
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Art and Design (formerly Studio Art): 2-D Design
Art and Design (formerly Studio Art): 3-D Design
Art and Design (formerly Studio Art): Drawing
Art History
Biology
Calculus AB
Calculus BC
Chemistry
Chinese Language and Culture
Computer Science A
Computer Science Principles
English Language and Composition
English Literature and Composition
Environmental Science
European History
French Language and Culture
German Language and Culture

Government and Politics (Comparative)
Government and Politics (US)
Human Geography
Italian Language and Culture
Japanese Language and Culture

Latin
Macroeconomics
Microeconomics
Music Theory
Physics 1: Algebra-Based
Physics 2: Algebra-Based
Physics C: Electricity and Magnetism
Physics C: Mechanics
Psychology
Spanish Language and Culture
Spanish Literature and Culture

Statistics
US History
World History: Modern
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Jamell Bouie at the NYT had an editorial today about RD - long story short is he is only picking on culture war items to dunk on the "libs" and completely avoiding his past as HFC member wanting to kill most of the safety net...

He is really vulnerable on those issues...
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He’s not charismatic enough in today’s world but Kemp despite his flaws is easily a better pres candidate for the Republican Party than Ron. (While old and white a Youngkin/Kemp ticket could be a winner for them over Biden)

All the southern guys have a rising tide/wind at their backs but it’s pretty obvious to anyone who’s lives in higher cost major metros in the north/Midwest/west coast and then been in a growing southern metro that none are prepared for the sauce infrastructure needs for the future generations that’s come with the strong positive net migration - the revs have come in before the bill/check, so to speak.

1 big thing: Your State of the State preview
Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp arrives for the State of the State address on the House floor of the State Capitol Wednesday. Photo: Alex Slitz/AP
Gov. Brian Kemp arrives for the State of the State address on the state House floor Wednesday. Photo: Alex Slitz/AP


This year, Gov. Brian Kemp is suddenly the most experienced leader at the state Capitol. He’s fresh off a resounding victory and a record-high approval rating.

Driving the news: Kemp laid out 2023 priorities focused on health care, education, crime and economic development in his State of the State address yesterday.

What we're watching:

Economic development: As Kemp highlighted, the state has landed four of its biggest economic development projects ever recently, and they are projected to bring more than 20,000 new jobs to rural Georgia.

Kemp reiterated a plan for a rural workforce housing fund to try to broaden housing access for the workers needed to fill those jobs.
Health care: Kemp made clear that he still has no interest in "one size fits none" health care, or Medicaid expansion — a key Democratic priority with some Republican support. He instead touted the anticipated benefits of his own Medicaid waivers — one of which is set to launch in July.

Kemp also plans to push legislation to allow pregnant women to receive TANF low-income monthly cash assistance benefits.
Education: The governor again highlighted his proposal to fund the HOPE scholarship at 100%, after the program took a hit during the Great Recession, as well as his plan to give state employees, including teachers, a $2,000 pay raise after their $5,000 raise received in his first term.

"No other General Assembly or governor will have raised teacher pay by so much, so quickly, in state history," he said.
Crime: Kemp and other Republican leaders are making clear crime will continue to be a priority this session.

Kemp's public priorities include adding penalties on gang recruitment, bail reform to address "the revolving door of criminal justice," and more anti-human trafficking legislation — a longtime priority of Georgia's First Lady Marty Kemp.
The other side: In a press conference, Democratic leaders laid out their wish list of legislation and attacked some of Kemp's.

Democratic proposals include a $15 minimum wage, a $10,000 pay raise for state employees, codification of abortion rights and gun control — much of which is unlikely to pass in a GOP-controlled Capitol.
House Minority Leader James Beverly (D-Macon) accused Kemp of being "fiscally irresponsible" for not expanding Medicaid.
While State Rep. Sam Park (D-Lawrenceville) voiced bipartisan support for law enforcement, he warned Democrats are wary of some anti-crime measures: "We must be very cautious not to over criminalize our communities."
The bottom line: Almost just as significant as what is in Kemp’s agenda is what is not. There was no mention of abortion, runoff reform proposals and Buckhead cityhood in Kemp's address.
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DeSantis claims credit for causing the College Board to change the AP curriculum, the CB says his claim is nonsense. Clearly DeSantis' claim is bullsh*t. DeSantis has no leverage over the College Board. The College Board doesn't care what a non-expert like a fascist Govenor thinks. Just more bread and circus for his mouth breathers. :roll:
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I wonder if Ron DeSantis is related to George Santos? There certainly do seem to be some similarities. Even the names are somewhat similar.
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njbill wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:52 pm I wonder if Ron DeSantis is related to George Santos? There certainly do seem to be some similarities. Even the names are somewhat similar.
... DeSantis looks like a drag queen .... just sayin. ;)
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You know, if you look at those grainy pictures of Santos in Brazil, it does sorta look like maybe that’s Ron DeSantis in the background. :lol:
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 6:49 am He’s not charismatic enough in today’s world but Kemp despite his flaws is easily a better pres candidate for the Republican Party than Ron. (While old and white a Youngkin/Kemp ticket could be a winner for them over Biden)

All the southern guys have a rising tide/wind at their backs but it’s pretty obvious to anyone who’s lives in higher cost major metros in the north/Midwest/west coast and then been in a growing southern metro that none are prepared for the sauce infrastructure needs for the future generations that’s come with the strong positive net migration - the revs have come in before the bill/check, so to speak.

1 big thing: Your State of the State preview
Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp arrives for the State of the State address on the House floor of the State Capitol Wednesday. Photo: Alex Slitz/AP
Gov. Brian Kemp arrives for the State of the State address on the state House floor Wednesday. Photo: Alex Slitz/AP


This year, Gov. Brian Kemp is suddenly the most experienced leader at the state Capitol. He’s fresh off a resounding victory and a record-high approval rating.

Driving the news: Kemp laid out 2023 priorities focused on health care, education, crime and economic development in his State of the State address yesterday.

What we're watching:

Economic development: As Kemp highlighted, the state has landed four of its biggest economic development projects ever recently, and they are projected to bring more than 20,000 new jobs to rural Georgia.

Kemp reiterated a plan for a rural workforce housing fund to try to broaden housing access for the workers needed to fill those jobs.
Health care: Kemp made clear that he still has no interest in "one size fits none" health care, or Medicaid expansion — a key Democratic priority with some Republican support. He instead touted the anticipated benefits of his own Medicaid waivers — one of which is set to launch in July.

Kemp also plans to push legislation to allow pregnant women to receive TANF low-income monthly cash assistance benefits.
Education: The governor again highlighted his proposal to fund the HOPE scholarship at 100%, after the program took a hit during the Great Recession, as well as his plan to give state employees, including teachers, a $2,000 pay raise after their $5,000 raise received in his first term.

"No other General Assembly or governor will have raised teacher pay by so much, so quickly, in state history," he said.
Crime: Kemp and other Republican leaders are making clear crime will continue to be a priority this session.

Kemp's public priorities include adding penalties on gang recruitment, bail reform to address "the revolving door of criminal justice," and more anti-human trafficking legislation — a longtime priority of Georgia's First Lady Marty Kemp.
The other side: In a press conference, Democratic leaders laid out their wish list of legislation and attacked some of Kemp's.

Democratic proposals include a $15 minimum wage, a $10,000 pay raise for state employees, codification of abortion rights and gun control — much of which is unlikely to pass in a GOP-controlled Capitol.
House Minority Leader James Beverly (D-Macon) accused Kemp of being "fiscally irresponsible" for not expanding Medicaid.
While State Rep. Sam Park (D-Lawrenceville) voiced bipartisan support for law enforcement, he warned Democrats are wary of some anti-crime measures: "We must be very cautious not to over criminalize our communities."
The bottom line: Almost just as significant as what is in Kemp’s agenda is what is not. There was no mention of abortion, runoff reform proposals and Buckhead cityhood in Kemp's address.
Kemp would indeed be a better President than DeSantis, but I don't think he'd make a DeSantis led ticket any more palatable. Ron's problem is that he's an a-hole, and it's not going help him come across as anything else because he's got a less a-hole running mate.
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jhu72 wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:46 pm DeSantis claims credit for causing the College Board to change the AP curriculum, the CB says his claim is nonsense. Clearly DeSantis' claim is bullsh*t. DeSantis has no leverage over the College Board. The College Board doesn't care what a non-expert like a fascist Govenor thinks. Just more bread and circus for his mouth breathers. :roll:
yikes, anyone else read the comments and replies to that article?

there was some dumb stuff from some liberals, but there was a huge amount of flat out racist cra-p from the right; the ignorance is off the hook...got a kick out of the idiot gal who claimed that students were being forced to take the class... :roll:

My take?
We have a very, very serious education problem in this country and it sure as heck isn't because of the AP classes...
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:59 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:46 pm DeSantis claims credit for causing the College Board to change the AP curriculum, the CB says his claim is nonsense. Clearly DeSantis' claim is bullsh*t. DeSantis has no leverage over the College Board. The College Board doesn't care what a non-expert like a fascist Govenor thinks. Just more bread and circus for his mouth breathers. :roll:
yikes, anyone else read the comments and replies to that article?

there was some dumb stuff from some liberals, but there was a huge amount of flat out racist cra-p from the right; the ignorance is off the hook...got a kick out of the idiot gal who claimed that students were being forced to take the class... :roll:

My take?
We have a very, very serious education problem in this country and it sure as heck isn't because of the AP classes...
... just did :lol: :lol: :roll: :shock:
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CU88 wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:17 pm Chinese Language and Culture
:lol: So let me get this right------Ron's super cool with kids learning about Communism, and learning about the Country we're told is our enemy.....

But hearing that life for Black Americans over the last 200+ years wasn't sooper-awesome is a bridge too far?

Let the hate floooooow, DeSantis.

I'd rather vote for Trump. At least Trump didn't hit a business like Disney for daring to disagree with him. (he probably wishes he thought of that, but he didn't)
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a fan wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:48 pm
CU88 wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:17 pm Chinese Language and Culture
:lol: So let me get this right------Ron's super cool with kids learning about Communism, and learning about the Country we're told is our enemy.....

But hearing that life for Black Americans over the last 200+ years wasn't sooper-awesome is a bridge too far?

Let the hate floooooow, DeSantis.

I'd rather vote for Trump. At least Trump didn't hit a business like Disney for daring to disagree with him. (he probably wishes he thought of that, but he didn't)
Probably because trump thinks there is still enough room at Disney world for a golf course. Now if the Disney folks were to turn him down...all bets are off.
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a fan wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:48 pm
CU88 wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:17 pm Chinese Language and Culture
:lol: So let me get this right------Ron's super cool with kids learning about Communism, and learning about the Country we're told is our enemy.....

But hearing that life for Black Americans over the last 200+ years wasn't sooper-awesome is a bridge too far?
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/college ... 00490.html

College Board Says That DeSantis' Outburst Didn't Change AP African American Studies

False alarm? The College Board said that the new changes to its African American AP studies course had nothing to do with Florida Governor Ron DeSantis.

...after days of being hounded by reporters, on Thursday, the College Board reportedly told their membership that DeSantis had nothing to do with the updates to the program.

“To be clear, no states or districts have seen the official framework that will be released on February 1, much less provided feedback on it,” the College Board said in a letter to its membership, according to Politico.

The letter obtained by Politico went on to say that the course had “been shaped only by the input of experts and long-standing AP principles and practices.”

According to Politico, those experts included “300 professors of African American Studies from more than 200 colleges nationwide, including dozens of historically Black colleges and universities.”

Moreover, the College Board had apparently completed working on the new course in December before DeSantis’ outburst.
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cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 4:34 pm
a fan wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:48 pm
CU88 wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:17 pm Chinese Language and Culture
:lol: So let me get this right------Ron's super cool with kids learning about Communism, and learning about the Country we're told is our enemy.....

But hearing that life for Black Americans over the last 200+ years wasn't sooper-awesome is a bridge too far?

Let the hate floooooow, DeSantis.

I'd rather vote for Trump. At least Trump didn't hit a business like Disney for daring to disagree with him. (he probably wishes he thought of that, but he didn't)
Probably because trump thinks there is still enough room at Disney world for a golf course. Now if the Disney folks were to turn him down...all bets are off.
Disney World already has like three golf courses. Next to Shades of Green, Disney's old "Golf Resort", now a DOD AFRC. Stayed there a few times, pretty great prices. Easy walk to the monorail and access to the parks.
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