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Bart wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:07 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:31 am Ancient greek drug has promise: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medica ... np1taskbar

The people running the PRINCIPLE trial seem to disagree: https://www.principletrial.org/results Scroll down to the bottom of the page.

Colchicine was also stopped un the Recovery Trial: https://www.recoverytrial.net/files/rec ... 050321.pdf

Here is another view of colchicine from the European Journal of Internal Medicine. In this letter the author sums up the results from both the trials mentioned above. https://www.ejinme.com/article/S0953-62 ... 3/fulltext

Here is a link to the paper described in Youth's post. Read and decide for yourself: https://www.ejinme.com/article/S0953-62 ... 0/fulltext

I am hopeful that sooner or later one of these repurposed drugs will prove to be the game changer.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:36 pm Clinically Suspected Myocarditis Temporally Related to COVID-19 Vaccination in Adolescents and Young Adults

Suspected myocarditis occurred in 136 patients (97.8%) following mRNA vaccine, with 131 (94.2%) following the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine; 128 (91.4%) occurred after the 2nd dose. Symptoms started a median of 2 days (range 0-22, IQR 1-3) after vaccination. The most common symptom was chest pain (99.3%)

Patients were treated with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (81.3%), intravenous immunoglobulin (21.6%), glucocorticoids (21.6%), colchicine (7.9%) or no anti-inflammatory therapies (8.6%). Twenty-six patients (18.7%) were in the ICU

Interesting to see Colchicine in the treatment....which I mentioned earlier today. Maybe this is why the drug has been connected to CV-19 treatments, because it IS being used in conjunction with other meds.

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:07 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:31 am Ancient greek drug has promise: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medica ... np1taskbar

The people running the PRINCIPLE trial seem to disagree: https://www.principletrial.org/results Scroll down to the bottom of the page.

Colchicine was also stopped un the Recovery Trial: https://www.recoverytrial.net/files/rec ... 050321.pdf

Here is another view of colchicine from the European Journal of Internal Medicine. In this letter the author sums up the results from both the trials mentioned above. https://www.ejinme.com/article/S0953-62 ... 3/fulltext

Here is a link to the paper described in Youth's post. Read and decide for yourself: https://www.ejinme.com/article/S0953-62 ... 0/fulltext

I am hopeful that sooner or later one of these repurposed drugs will prove to be the game changer.

a fan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:46 pm

tech37 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:23 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:45 pm

tech37 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:19 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 6:05 pm

tech37 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:23 am Very interesting, informative discussion on Rogan with Dr. Peter McCullough

Warning: vaccination zealots won't like what he says

https://open.spotify.com/show/4rOoJ6Egrf8K2IrywzwOMk

I like what he says just fine. How he says it is hilarious.......EVERYTHING is a conspiracy for this guy. Like complaining about Hopkins and others studying pandemics ...and then (ominous music plays) we have a pandemic!! OMG, Hopkins is IN ON IT !!

But in the end, what's he complaining about? He appears to be upset that the US didn't use a bunch of unproven treatments, and instead focused on three separate vaccine which have proven to be incredibly effective.

So...what's the problem here? Is he mad that the vaccines work?

Nice a fan...spoken like a true vaccination zealot.

I don't believe anything of the sort, but don't let that stop you from putting words in my mouth. I forget that you're the only one on the forum who's allowed to put words in other poster's mouth.
Oops, maybe I mixed you up with someone else. I thought for sure you were yelling about and shaming unvaccinated people.You're reading things that aren't there. What I have unquestionably been doing is mocking dumb Americans who aren't making logical sense, and are keeping this stupid pandemic going. If you doctor tells you you shouldn't take the vaccine for one reason or another? More power to you. Big difference

You can't dispute my method----or rather, YOUR method if you could take the tin foil hat off for five seconds, and be honest with me.

Ready? Paying attention?

When your went to your personal physician, and asked about what the best protection from landing in a hospital with a bad case of Covid was, what did she or he say?
I hadn't gone to a doctor in four years before Oct this year. My doctor retired two or three years ago and I hadn't been to see the young Dr who replaced him. When I did go in Oct, sorry we didn't discuss vaccines since I was already vaccinated. I had long since made that decision on my own. We did discuss monoclonal antibodies accessibility and if I would qualify. Just for giggles (full well knowing the answer) I also asked him where he stood regarding Ivermectin and he said he would not prescribe it. It's a shame, younger Drs. too afraid to risk their reputations or afraid of being canceled somehow.So it's simply not possible that he was just giving you his best medical advice? The ONLY possibility here is tin foil hat, and he's "in on the conspiracy". Neat. No, not IMO. Being a young physician in a group practice, he was doing what he's been told to do. He was obviously uncomfortable when I brought it up.

They said: take one of the vaccines, didn't they?

See how simple that was? At no point does the CDC, Fauci, Rogan, McCullough, Trump, Biden, or any other person you can invent come into play. Just as it has been with Americans since freaking doctors were invented. No tin foil needed. Just you and your doctor.
You're hilarious a fan ... when I have been arguing consistently on here that a person's health decisions are private and their own to make.You've brought up several internet personalities implying that Americans should listen to what they have to say, without acknowledging that they are keeping people from getting vaxxed....leading to a few hundred thousand dead gullible Americans

tech37 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 9:19 pm McCullough has real bona fides, not "just some guy on the internet" as you so glibly like to say. I find him very impressive

Good for you. Know what the problem is here? McCullough may have the bona fides----but YOU don't. You have no freaking way of knowing if he's full of it or not. Which is part of Bill Burr's point if you kept that open mind that you swear you're keeping open. But if you have such a giant ego that you think you can read JAMA and truly understand not just what's in those articles, but also what is NOT in those articles? Congratulations, you beat out DocB for the biggest ego on the board. Take a bow.
a fan lecturing me about a big ego! Now there's some irony for you.

Hey, I'm not the guy who thinks he knows more than Dr. Fauci when it comes to viruses, simply because you don't like what he's said in the middle of a pandemic, where it's full on impossible to not make mistakes

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:52 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:36 pm Clinically Suspected Myocarditis Temporally Related to COVID-19 Vaccination in Adolescents and Young Adults

Suspected myocarditis occurred in 136 patients (97.8%) following mRNA vaccine, with 131 (94.2%) following the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine; 128 (91.4%) occurred after the 2nd dose. Symptoms started a median of 2 days (range 0-22, IQR 1-3) after vaccination. The most common symptom was chest pain (99.3%)

Patients were treated with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (81.3%), intravenous immunoglobulin (21.6%), glucocorticoids (21.6%), colchicine (7.9%) or no anti-inflammatory therapies (8.6%). Twenty-six patients (18.7%) were in the ICU

Interesting to see Colchicine in the treatment....which I mentioned earlier today. Maybe this is why the drug has been connected to CV-19 treatments, because it IS being used in conjunction with other meds.

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:07 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:31 am Ancient greek drug has promise: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medica ... np1taskbar

The people running the PRINCIPLE trial seem to disagree: https://www.principletrial.org/results Scroll down to the bottom of the page.

Colchicine was also stopped un the Recovery Trial: https://www.recoverytrial.net/files/rec ... 050321.pdf

Here is another view of colchicine from the European Journal of Internal Medicine. In this letter the author sums up the results from both the trials mentioned above. https://www.ejinme.com/article/S0953-62 ... 3/fulltext

Here is a link to the paper described in Youth's post. Read and decide for yourself: https://www.ejinme.com/article/S0953-62 ... 0/fulltext

I am hopeful that sooner or later one of these repurposed drugs will prove to be the game changer.

What? Colchicine was use to treat myocarditis and had nothing to do with the treatment of COVID.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:32 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:52 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:36 pm Clinically Suspected Myocarditis Temporally Related to COVID-19 Vaccination in Adolescents and Young Adults

Suspected myocarditis occurred in 136 patients (97.8%) following mRNA vaccine, with 131 (94.2%) following the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine; 128 (91.4%) occurred after the 2nd dose. Symptoms started a median of 2 days (range 0-22, IQR 1-3) after vaccination. The most common symptom was chest pain (99.3%)

Patients were treated with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (81.3%), intravenous immunoglobulin (21.6%), glucocorticoids (21.6%), colchicine (7.9%) or no anti-inflammatory therapies (8.6%). Twenty-six patients (18.7%) were in the ICU

Interesting to see Colchicine in the treatment....which I mentioned earlier today. Maybe this is why the drug has been connected to CV-19 treatments, because it IS being used in conjunction with other meds.

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:07 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:31 am Ancient greek drug has promise: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medica ... np1taskbar

The people running the PRINCIPLE trial seem to disagree: https://www.principletrial.org/results Scroll down to the bottom of the page.

Colchicine was also stopped un the Recovery Trial: https://www.recoverytrial.net/files/rec ... 050321.pdf

Here is another view of colchicine from the European Journal of Internal Medicine. In this letter the author sums up the results from both the trials mentioned above. https://www.ejinme.com/article/S0953-62 ... 3/fulltext

Here is a link to the paper described in Youth's post. Read and decide for yourself: https://www.ejinme.com/article/S0953-62 ... 0/fulltext

I am hopeful that sooner or later one of these repurposed drugs will prove to be the game changer.

What? Colchicine was use to treat myocarditis and had nothing to do with the treatment of COVID.

Sorry, not following you.

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:51 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:32 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:52 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:36 pm Clinically Suspected Myocarditis Temporally Related to COVID-19 Vaccination in Adolescents and Young Adults

Suspected myocarditis occurred in 136 patients (97.8%) following mRNA vaccine, with 131 (94.2%) following the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine; 128 (91.4%) occurred after the 2nd dose. Symptoms started a median of 2 days (range 0-22, IQR 1-3) after vaccination. The most common symptom was chest pain (99.3%)

Patients were treated with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (81.3%), intravenous immunoglobulin (21.6%), glucocorticoids (21.6%), colchicine (7.9%) or no anti-inflammatory therapies (8.6%). Twenty-six patients (18.7%) were in the ICU

Interesting to see Colchicine in the treatment....which I mentioned earlier today. Maybe this is why the drug has been connected to CV-19 treatments, because it IS being used in conjunction with other meds.

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:07 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:31 am Ancient greek drug has promise: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medica ... np1taskbar

The people running the PRINCIPLE trial seem to disagree: https://www.principletrial.org/results Scroll down to the bottom of the page.

Colchicine was also stopped un the Recovery Trial: https://www.recoverytrial.net/files/rec ... 050321.pdf

Here is another view of colchicine from the European Journal of Internal Medicine. In this letter the author sums up the results from both the trials mentioned above. https://www.ejinme.com/article/S0953-62 ... 3/fulltext

Here is a link to the paper described in Youth's post. Read and decide for yourself: https://www.ejinme.com/article/S0953-62 ... 0/fulltext

I am hopeful that sooner or later one of these repurposed drugs will prove to be the game changer.

What? Colchicine was use to treat myocarditis and had nothing to do with the treatment of COVID.

Sorry, not following you.

the colchicine used in the article was used to treat the myocarditis and had nothing to do with COVID.

"Patients were treated with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (81.3%), intravenous immunoglobulin (21.6%), glucocorticoids (21.6%), colchicine (7.9%) or no anti-inflammatory therapies (8.6%). "

There is nothing in the article that suggests it is being used in conjunction with anything to treat COVID. It is being used as an anti-inflamitory for myocardial swelling.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:59 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:51 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:32 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:52 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:36 pm Clinically Suspected Myocarditis Temporally Related to COVID-19 Vaccination in Adolescents and Young Adults

Suspected myocarditis occurred in 136 patients (97.8%) following mRNA vaccine, with 131 (94.2%) following the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine; 128 (91.4%) occurred after the 2nd dose. Symptoms started a median of 2 days (range 0-22, IQR 1-3) after vaccination. The most common symptom was chest pain (99.3%)

Patients were treated with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (81.3%), intravenous immunoglobulin (21.6%), glucocorticoids (21.6%), colchicine (7.9%) or no anti-inflammatory therapies (8.6%). Twenty-six patients (18.7%) were in the ICU

Interesting to see Colchicine in the treatment....which I mentioned earlier today. Maybe this is why the drug has been connected to CV-19 treatments, because it IS being used in conjunction with other meds.

Bart wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:07 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:31 am Ancient greek drug has promise: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medica ... np1taskbar

The people running the PRINCIPLE trial seem to disagree: https://www.principletrial.org/results Scroll down to the bottom of the page.

Colchicine was also stopped un the Recovery Trial: https://www.recoverytrial.net/files/rec ... 050321.pdf

Here is another view of colchicine from the European Journal of Internal Medicine. In this letter the author sums up the results from both the trials mentioned above. https://www.ejinme.com/article/S0953-62 ... 3/fulltext

Here is a link to the paper described in Youth's post. Read and decide for yourself: https://www.ejinme.com/article/S0953-62 ... 0/fulltext

I am hopeful that sooner or later one of these repurposed drugs will prove to be the game changer.

What? Colchicine was use to treat myocarditis and had nothing to do with the treatment of COVID.

Sorry, not following you.

the colchicine used in the article was used to treat the myocarditis and had nothing to do with COVID.

"Patients were treated with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (81.3%), intravenous immunoglobulin (21.6%), glucocorticoids (21.6%), colchicine (7.9%) or no anti-inflammatory therapies (8.6%). "

There is nothing in the article that suggests it is being used in conjunction with anything to treat COVID. It is being used as an anti-inflamitory for myocardial swelling.

Yes, I understand that. Just commenting about the drug itself and how it may have been linked in with cv19; not implying anything here.

Bart wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:49 am Don't know if anyone follows Eric Topol here. He is a bit reactionary and at times way over the top at times for me but from time to time he comes up with some interesting stuff. In this post he goes through some of the information on Paxlovid. It is an easy read.

https://erictopol.substack.com/p/why-pa ... eakthrough

tech37 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:30 am

Bart wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:49 am Don't know if anyone follows Eric Topol here. He is a bit reactionary and at times way over the top at times for me but from time to time he comes up with some interesting stuff. In this post he goes through some of the information on Paxlovid. It is an easy read.

https://erictopol.substack.com/p/why-pa ... eakthrough

Thanks Bart for posting this

Bart wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:49 am Don't know if anyone follows Eric Topol here. He is a bit reactionary and at times way over the top at times for me but from time to time he comes up with some interesting stuff. In this post he goes through some of the information on Paxlovid. It is an easy read.

https://erictopol.substack.com/p/why-pa ... eakthrough

youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Dec 15, 2021 7:27 pm No bueno...

Bart wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:49 am Don't know if anyone follows Eric Topol here. He is a bit reactionary and at times way over the top at times for me but from time to time he comes up with some interesting stuff. In this post he goes through some of the information on Paxlovid. It is an easy read.

https://erictopol.substack.com/p/why-pa ... eakthrough

wgdsr wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:40 pm

Bart wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:49 am Don't know if anyone follows Eric Topol here. He is a bit reactionary and at times way over the top at times for me but from time to time he comes up with some interesting stuff. In this post he goes through some of the information on Paxlovid. It is an easy read.

https://erictopol.substack.com/p/why-pa ... eakthrough

back of the envelope, if this is approved for everyone even if not initially, there'll be a real shortage on supply for a while.

pfizer's manufacturing for the vaxx did great to hike production, hope that and other levers happen very quickly here, too. we have any dough left over from all the $$ approved in the last year and a half?

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:46 pm https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34264527/

Hopefully this is an adopted measure so life can continue with less disruptions.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:50 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:46 pm https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34264527/

Hopefully this is an adopted measure so life can continue with less disruptions.

Brought this up awhile ago. It’s almost like they want to find it no matter what.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:00 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:50 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:46 pm https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34264527/

Hopefully this is an adopted measure so life can continue with less disruptions.

Brought this up awhile ago. It’s almost like they want to find it no matter what.

You seem to miss the point. The idea is to let people above a threshold move on instead of a positive test halting life. The NFL is instituting this now…..just ask Deez about it….

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:08 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:00 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:50 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:46 pm https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34264527/

Hopefully this is an adopted measure so life can continue with less disruptions.

Brought this up awhile ago. It’s almost like they want to find it no matter what.

You seem to miss the point. The idea is to let people above a threshold move on instead of a positive test halting life. The NFL is instituting this now…..just ask Deez about it….

Yes. That was me exact point. You can confirm with Phil...