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Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:03 pm
by Brooklyn
Glad you found my disclosures to be enlightening. Can't say for sure as to why I did not prosper despite all the education. But in this I am hardly alone. In fact I've had several conversations about this on youtube with other unfortunates. Maybe in another lifetime ...

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:33 am
by youthathletics
youthathletics wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:15 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:19 pm
youthathletics wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:37 am Interesting take from an Imam Muslim Leader: https://x.com/WallStreetSilv/status/171 ... 24319?s=20
I got a few interesting takes from drunkards in CNY last week too! What a coincidence.
Where they also Ministers of foreign affairs of a country?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CylOPyHt ... BiNWFlZA==
CBP Alert: https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/17164 ... 57571?s=20

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:38 am
by Seacoaster(1)
youthathletics wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 7:33 am
youthathletics wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:15 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:19 pm
youthathletics wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:37 am Interesting take from an Imam Muslim Leader: https://x.com/WallStreetSilv/status/171 ... 24319?s=20
I got a few interesting takes from drunkards in CNY last week too! What a coincidence.
Where they also Ministers of foreign affairs of a country?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CylOPyHt ... BiNWFlZA==
CBP Alert: https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/17164 ... 57571?s=20
Think this is more about terror than immigration, no?

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 6:56 am
by youthathletics

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:36 am
by cradleandshoot
The Biden administration is doing a bang up job at the southern border. Their ineptitude will likely come back to bite them in the fanny. Too bad that Democrats never did a damn thing about the problem outside of complaining about building a wall. There is yet another swarm of illegals hoofing their way towards the border. I guess there isn't even any room at the inn among those mayors of our "sanctuary cities" They know how to talk the talk while being reluctant walk the walk. So what does Joe do? The do nothing strategy sure ain't working is it?? :roll:

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:12 am
by youthathletics
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:36 am The Biden administration is doing a bang up job at the southern border. Their ineptitude will likely come back to bite them in the fanny. Too bad that Democrats never did a damn thing about the problem outside of complaining about building a wall. There is yet another swarm of illegals hoofing their way towards the border. I guess there isn't even any room at the inn among those mayors of our "sanctuary cities" They know how to talk the talk while being reluctant walk the walk. So what does Joe do? The do nothing strategy sure ain't working is it?? :roll:
https://x.com/amuse/status/1740149181958815858?s=20

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:23 am
by cradleandshoot
youthathletics wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:12 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:36 am The Biden administration is doing a bang up job at the southern border. Their ineptitude will likely come back to bite them in the fanny. Too bad that Democrats never did a damn thing about the problem outside of complaining about building a wall. There is yet another swarm of illegals hoofing their way towards the border. I guess there isn't even any room at the inn among those mayors of our "sanctuary cities" They know how to talk the talk while being reluctant walk the walk. So what does Joe do? The do nothing strategy sure ain't working is it?? :roll:
https://x.com/amuse/status/1740149181958815858?s=20
I wonder why ethics only include SCOTUS members when it comes to how politicians are judged? Joe can't afford the 6 grand or is he just accepting a gratuity??? :D

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:07 am
by youthathletics
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:23 am
youthathletics wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:12 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:36 am The Biden administration is doing a bang up job at the southern border. Their ineptitude will likely come back to bite them in the fanny. Too bad that Democrats never did a damn thing about the problem outside of complaining about building a wall. There is yet another swarm of illegals hoofing their way towards the border. I guess there isn't even any room at the inn among those mayors of our "sanctuary cities" They know how to talk the talk while being reluctant walk the walk. So what does Joe do? The do nothing strategy sure ain't working is it?? :roll:
https://x.com/amuse/status/1740149181958815858?s=20
I wonder why ethics only include SCOTUS members when it comes to how politicians are judged? Joe can't afford the 6 grand or is he just accepting a gratuity??? :D
/ˌkwid ˌprō ˈkwō/ in plain sight. ;)

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:14 am
by cradleandshoot
youthathletics wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:07 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:23 am
youthathletics wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:12 am
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:36 am The Biden administration is doing a bang up job at the southern border. Their ineptitude will likely come back to bite them in the fanny. Too bad that Democrats never did a damn thing about the problem outside of complaining about building a wall. There is yet another swarm of illegals hoofing their way towards the border. I guess there isn't even any room at the inn among those mayors of our "sanctuary cities" They know how to talk the talk while being reluctant walk the walk. So what does Joe do? The do nothing strategy sure ain't working is it?? :roll:
https://x.com/amuse/status/1740149181958815858?s=20
I wonder why ethics only include SCOTUS members when it comes to how politicians are judged? Joe can't afford the 6 grand or is he just accepting a gratuity??? :D
/ˌkwid ˌprō ˈkwō/ in plain sight. ;)
😏

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:38 pm
by dislaxxic
Educate yourself about what happened the last time comprehensive immigration reform came up for a vote in the Congress, Uncle Cranky, and then we'll talk, OK? Until then, kindly refrain from the low-information voter drivel...

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Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:55 pm
by cradleandshoot
dislaxxic wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:38 pm Educate yourself about what happened the last time comprehensive immigration reform came up for a vote in the Congress, Uncle Cranky, and then we'll talk, OK? Until then, kindly refrain from the low-information voter drivel...

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I'm getting a comprehensive education from you liberal donut holes everyday. :shock: ;) Your not answering my question jaundice boy. What is the Biden administration plan for the southern border free for all? Or don't you think there is even a problem at the southern border?

Big hint here on this issue/non issue...it's gonna be a huge deal as a topic in the upcoming election. If the Biden people have a plan they are keeping it top secret. There is the outside possiblity that the Biden simply have no plan to put forward. Has the press asked that question to KP yet? :D

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 2:16 pm
by PizzaSnake
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:55 pm
dislaxxic wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:38 pm Educate yourself about what happened the last time comprehensive immigration reform came up for a vote in the Congress, Uncle Cranky, and then we'll talk, OK? Until then, kindly refrain from the low-information voter drivel...

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I'm getting a comprehensive education from you liberal donut holes everyday. :shock: ;) Your not answering my question jaundice boy. What is the Biden administration plan for the southern border free for all? Or don't you think there is even a problem at the southern border?

Big hint here on this issue/non issue...it's gonna be a huge deal as a topic in the upcoming election. If the Biden people have a plan they are keeping it top secret. There is the outside possiblity that the Biden simply have no plan to put forward. Has the press asked that question to KP yet? :D
Well, it is the source of the child slave labor that is propping up the US economy.

You ready to go back to work?

“ A decade ago, most unaccompanied migrant children were released to their parents. But since 2017, that has changed: a majority of them now are going to non-parent sponsors. Those children are often expected to find work and help their families back home.

Social workers, teachers and lawyers who work with migrant children estimate that a majority of these children end up working full time, often in dangerous jobs that violate labor laws.”

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... jhCg%3D%3D

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:32 pm
by MDlaxfan76
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:55 pm
dislaxxic wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:38 pm Educate yourself about what happened the last time comprehensive immigration reform came up for a vote in the Congress, Uncle Cranky, and then we'll talk, OK? Until then, kindly refrain from the low-information voter drivel...

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I'm getting a comprehensive education from you liberal donut holes everyday. :shock: ;) Your not answering my question jaundice boy. What is the Biden administration plan for the southern border free for all? Or don't you think there is even a problem at the southern border?

Big hint here on this issue/non issue...it's gonna be a huge deal as a topic in the upcoming election. If the Biden people have a plan they are keeping it top secret. There is the outside possiblity that the Biden simply have no plan to put forward. Has the press asked that question to KP yet? :D
The one aspect that you are correct about is that it will be a political football, and, as the incumbent, the opposition will do everything they can to hang the issue around Biden's neck.

And it's indeed a very serious issue.

That said, it takes two to tango and neither side has had an appetite for the other's preferred 'answer', and most importantly the actual realistic solution of comprehensive immigration reform has been off the table since W and Marco supported it but were rebuffed by what we can now recognize as the roots of the MAGA wing of the party. Those roots had been longstanding, but there used to real hope for real reform, given the GOP's then idealistic embrace of immigration as fundamental to American vitality. But...race...those roots took hold with the "Tea Party" movement, the "Freedom Caucus", and birtherism...which was Trump's genesis as a populist, switching party affiliation to take advantage of that strain of racism that had moved from Dem to GOP during his lifetime. Signature issue in 2016, he promises he'll go all in with the most extreme hard right reactionist nativism from day one...the day he says he's good with being a 'dictator'.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:27 pm
by youthathletics
Our political idiots trying to solve the border crisis: https://x.com/PicturesFoIder/status/174 ... 58155?s=20

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:30 pm
by a fan
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:32 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:55 pm
dislaxxic wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:38 pm Educate yourself about what happened the last time comprehensive immigration reform came up for a vote in the Congress, Uncle Cranky, and then we'll talk, OK? Until then, kindly refrain from the low-information voter drivel...

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I'm getting a comprehensive education from you liberal donut holes everyday. :shock: ;) Your not answering my question jaundice boy. What is the Biden administration plan for the southern border free for all? Or don't you think there is even a problem at the southern border?

Big hint here on this issue/non issue...it's gonna be a huge deal as a topic in the upcoming election. If the Biden people have a plan they are keeping it top secret. There is the outside possiblity that the Biden simply have no plan to put forward. Has the press asked that question to KP yet? :D
The one aspect that you are correct about is that it will be a political football, and, as the incumbent, the opposition will do everything they can to hang the issue around Biden's neck.

And it's indeed a very serious issue.
No. It isn't.

If this was a serious issue? Republican voters would hold Trump responsible for fixing our broken immigration system.

What happens instead? Excuses as to "why Trump can't do it".

Same game played now that Biden is in charge. Or, more to the point: their reps in Congress.

Until the party voters step up and hold their leaders accountable? Nothing will happen.

Which tells me that CLEARLY this isn't an important issue. It's just another issue that no one REALLY cares about.


Anyone in a political party want to tell me: what the F is the point of being in your party if you don't hold your leaders accountable for doing what you voted for them to do? Being a registered whatever-the-F gives you a voice. A say. Your leaders will listen.

If you don't communicated with your leaders? Why the F wouldn't you simply vote independent?

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:46 pm
by youthathletics
a fan wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:30 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:32 pm
cradleandshoot wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:55 pm
dislaxxic wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:38 pm Educate yourself about what happened the last time comprehensive immigration reform came up for a vote in the Congress, Uncle Cranky, and then we'll talk, OK? Until then, kindly refrain from the low-information voter drivel...

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I'm getting a comprehensive education from you liberal donut holes everyday. :shock: ;) Your not answering my question jaundice boy. What is the Biden administration plan for the southern border free for all? Or don't you think there is even a problem at the southern border?

Big hint here on this issue/non issue...it's gonna be a huge deal as a topic in the upcoming election. If the Biden people have a plan they are keeping it top secret. There is the outside possiblity that the Biden simply have no plan to put forward. Has the press asked that question to KP yet? :D
The one aspect that you are correct about is that it will be a political football, and, as the incumbent, the opposition will do everything they can to hang the issue around Biden's neck.

And it's indeed a very serious issue.
No. It isn't.

If this was a serious issue? Republican voters would hold Trump responsible for fixing our broken immigration system.

What happens instead? Excuses as to "why Trump can't do it".

Same game played now that Biden is in charge. Or, more to the point: their reps in Congress.

Until the party voters step up and hold their leaders accountable? Nothing will happen.

Which tells me that CLEARLY this isn't an important issue. It's just another issue that no one REALLY cares about.


Anyone in a political party want to tell me: what the F is the point of being in your party if you don't hold your leaders accountable for doing what you voted for them to do? Being a registered whatever-the-F gives you a voice. A say. Your leaders will listen.

If you don't communicated with your leaders? Why the F wouldn't you simply vote independent?
When you look at the trend line of border engagements, they were ‘mostly’ flat during Trumps term, then when title 42 changed the flood gates opened and has spiked beyond comprehension.

Sure, your point still stands.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:06 pm
by dislaxxic
Yeah, that's a VERY short myopic look at the "trend lines". Orange Duce and his MAGAts didn't do DOODLY SQUAT, starting with his "Mexico will pay for it..." lies, mixing in a little inhumane family separations, because, you know, the cruelty of this "policy". Obama had better "trend line" numbers than Trump did. Are you seriously telling us that you'll look past all of Trump's other depredations and failures to put him back in the White House because...you like his immigration policy? That's just whackjob...

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Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:12 pm
by old salt
a fan wrote: Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:52 pm Give them work visas. Fake problem solved.

We have entire families of Venezuelans here in Denver....hundreds, show up over the last few months.

And the only ACTUAL problem they have? They can't take one of the THOUSANDS of open jobs in the Denver area.

That's it. That's the "problem". Every other "problem"...housing, transportation. Is an EASY solve if we allow them to work.

Give them work VISAs. Boom, done.

I DESPISE that our country can no longer solve even the simplest of problems. We can't even solve the fake ones that our media invents...like this one.
Boom. done.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/12/ ... term=first

Why Does Biden Insist on Worsening the Border Crisis?

by JORDAN FISCHETTI, December 27, 2023

The southwest border is a mess. There have been 5,815,600 apprehensions from February of 2021 through October of this year. That’s 1.35 million more apprehensions at the southwest border during this period than there were in the prior decade.

Unfortunately, four GOP presidential-primary debates passed without any mention of how Biden’s hamstringing of American farmers will exacerbate the border crisis.

Earlier this year, the administration introduced a wage-rate regulation mandating that farmers who hire seasonal agricultural laborers through the existing H-2A visa program pay all their migrant workers the salary of the highest-paying job listed in their H-2A petition for the entirety of the season.

What does that mean? Let’s suppose a farmer hires a dozen sweet-potato farmers in North Carolina. They spend the vast majority of their time harvesting sweet potatoes, but, occasionally, they transport the crop via truck from the field to storage. Truck drivers in North Carolina earn almost twice as much as harvesters earn. Therefore, according to this new regulation, the farmer must pay all his workers, including those who never drive a truck, truck-driver wages for the entire season.

Even worse, the statewide data used to determine these wages tend to favor wage rates in urban areas, so the rural farmer in the above example must pay his harvesters city-truck-driver wages. This is as expensive as it is nonsensical. As my colleague Sam Peak recently calculated in National Review — “the sweet-potato farmer would lose more than $100,000 in a single season because the dozen potato-harvesters he hired have miraculously transformed into truckers.”

Farmers can avoid these extra costs only by filing additional, separate H-2A petitions for each job category that requires a higher wage. A 2021 State Department report found that it cost more than $10,000 in application-related, legal, and other expenses to hire just one worker for one season. This was prior to the introduction of this regulation. And after? One farmer estimated that recategorizing just two of his workers would cost an additional $44,393. Unsurprisingly, 65 percent of farmers have said they would stop using the H-2A program if this regulation remains.

It gets worse. The Biden administration recently proposed yet another regulation that would impose additional costs on American farmers who hire H-2A workers. This work-site regulation would force farmers to grant labor organizations access to their work sites for up to ten hours each month. It would also force them to share their workers’ phone numbers, addresses, messaging apps, and other contact information without their workers’ consent. As Americans for Prosperity Foundation stated in its public comment against the proposed regulation, this would be a gross violation of both employers’ and employees’ privacy rights.

It would also force farmers to publicly state their reasons for refusing to enter into collective-bargaining agreements with labor organizations, which would open the door to unwarranted public attacks against them and punitive work-site visits from labor groups.

It would also raise the likelihood of farmers being banned from the H-2A program. That’s because the program already includes more than 200 rules, which are so vague and confusing that different regulating bodies within the Department of Labor provide conflicting compliance instructions. The Biden administration’s proposal would further complicate this regulatory maze and would ban farmers from accessing the program if they violate any labor regulation imposed by any agency, be it federal, state, or local, no matter how minor the violation. Under these circumstances, is it difficult to imagine a labor representative, during his ten hours of monthly work-site access, going on a fishing expedition for negligible infractions?

This is unsustainable. These regulations would discourage more and more farmers from using the current, legal H-2A visa program, which might result in their hiring illegal immigrants instead to meet their labor needs. This, in turn, would incentivize even more illegal immigration and cause more chaos at our southwestern border.

The history of the Bracero Program, by which American farmers hired Mexican farmhands between the 1940s and 1960s, demonstrates how access to legal pathways for seasonal work lessens pressure on the border and how a lack of such pathways exacerbates it. There were 1,028,246 apprehensions at the southwest border in 1954, the highest level recorded until that year. Then, an increase in immigration enforcement combined with the gradual facilitation of hiring Bracero laborers led to a drop in apprehensions by almost a million in just two years.

Apprehensions remained low during the program’s existence. A 1980 Congressional Research Service report acknowledged that the Bracero Program complemented border security by offering aspiring immigrant workers a “substitute legal means of entry.”

Alas: Under pressure from labor unions, the government ended that program in 1964. A leaked Border Patrol document predicted what would happen next:

Should . . . a restriction [be] placed on the number of braceros allowed to enter the United States, we can look forward to a large increase in the number of illegal alien entrants into the United States.

From 1965 to 1970, apprehensions surged by approximately 340 percent, while apprehensions of adult male agricultural workers surged by nearly 600 percent. This suggests that the increase in apprehensions was entirely caused by adult males, who were now crossing illegally to pursue agricultural work.

Restricting seasonal migration exacerbated illegal immigration in the 1960s. There’s no reason to think that it won’t do the exact same thing in 2023. Thankfully, the Farm Operations Support Act, introduced in both the House and Senate, would eliminate Biden’s wage-rate regulation. And when the work-site regulation is introduced, it’s imperative that legislation be passed to repeal that, too.

But repealing these measures is just the first step. Ultimately, we must facilitate the process by which American farmers and other employers hire seasonal labor. Doing so would benefit American businesses and consumers while lessening Border Patrol’s burden. Of course, this wouldn’t be a panacea, but it would be a very good start. And anything would be better than Biden’s current policy of exacerbating a national crisis.

Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:15 pm
by a fan
youthathletics wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:46 pm When you look at the trend line of border engagements, they were ‘mostly’ flat during Trumps term, then when title 42 changed the flood gates opened and has spiked beyond comprehension.
100% don't care.

We have MILLIONS of people here illegally, and all that you guys want to focus on is the stupid border.

What the F difference does it make if we do NOTHING for 30 years about immigration reform?

Doesn't matter if 200K come a year or 1,000,000 if we NEVER tackle the actual problem, YA.

The fact is: you don't care. If you did, you boys would have held Trump accountable for his campaign promise.

You didn't. And now you're back to " Dems are bad", and my personal favorite "the borders are open when Dems are in charge".

How old is this thread, YA? Anything change since it started?

Nope.

And I'll be here to take the same wager you all were smart enough to not take when Trump was elected: $1000 says Trump doesn't pass a comprehensive immigration reform bill in his four years.

Easy money. It always is.

I'll add in a $500 kicker that if I don't remind you, you and the rest of the board's (and country's) Republicans won't notice Trump doesn't pass the bill.

And you won't care....his approval rating will be 90%+ for Republican voters no matter what he does.


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Re: Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:18 pm
by a fan
old salt wrote: Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:12 pm Boom. done.
Taking a page from Tech, and you're back to vague-posting?

I have NO CLUE what you mean here with "boom". Want me to guess? I'm not allowed to do that, remember?