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Re: 2024

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:35 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:30 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:15 pm

Good detail for anyone interested
This EC power grab should not just terrify any tech company. It should terrify any investor in any company the EC decides to go after, regardless of whether or not they even do business in the EU.
😂😂😂😂

Re: 2024

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:23 pm
by SCLaxAttack
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:27 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:25 pm It isn’t a long stretch to see where Trump would nominate LTG Michael Flynn, RET for SecDef and his younger brother GEN Charles Flynn for CJCS, placing the older Flynn in the chain of command directly under Trump and above all military branches, and the younger Flynn his top military adviser.
This is a joke, right ? Senate confirmation for SecDef would be impossible.
This is a joke, right? If he doesn’t see him getting confirmed he’s installed as acting for four years. You keep pretending this country isn’t going to be unlike anything we’ve ever seen with Trump as president with immunity to whatever level he wants.

Prez can’t be tried while in office. Even if a D House brings impeachment, not enough Senators that aren’t MAGA to convict and throw the effer out.

Re: 2024

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:42 pm
by a fan
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:14 pm Yeah. I'm the first Conservative who wants less Fed govt regulation. Trump's the first (R) to champion that.

Now you'ii tell me about all the Trump regs that benefit the (R)'s. yada, yada, yada.
:lol: Example 1,236 you don't pay any attention to anyone but yourself here.

Hey fellow Forumites: how many times have you heard me tell you that these economic policies help the Coastal Liberal Elite?

And how many times have I explained that the economic policies that Old Salt is championing here royally F's TrumpNation, and working class Americans.....triply so in flyover States?

Which is why I keep laughing at you and your fellow Trump fans. You're at least smart enough to know Trump= cash register for Old Salt. TrumpNation? They have NO CLUE how much more F"ed they'll be after four more years of Trump.....and how much richer the coastal liberal elite that Old Salt and TrumpNation despise so much.

But you want to make them rich, and hand them more money and power? Go right ahead. I'll cheer it on with you!


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These postings make clear to everyone here: you're a boilerplate 2024 Republican: you don't have an opinion on more or less regulation. All you care about is outcome that favors you and your family.

Which is why on one hand, you complain about monopolies when it hurt your family grocery, and want MORE regulation of monopolies on one hand...while on the other, you want NO regulation for this specific company, because you think the FTC cost you millions.

I don't understand how you don't get how transparent you're being with your motivations.

What you want is a Selfish-Ocracy....you don't care how you get it---more regulation, less regulation----makes no difference to you, you just want more money. And your stunned that no one here wants what you want.


old salt wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:31 pm Somehow you'll work tariffs in.
You mean more Tax cuts that help the Coastal Liberal Elite? Trump has already told us those are coming. I don't need to say a thing...Trump did it for me.

Re: 2024

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:49 pm
by a fan
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:09 pm
a fan wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:57 pm
So yes, the FTC is FINALLY trying to keep the very monopolies that your family face every freaking day, from getting bigger. Past FTC's have waved these monopolies through, because the US Senate is on the take, as is our POTUS, as is the FTC itself.

She's trying to change that. Something that you already admitted that you support, complaining about monopolies hurting your family's biz....just not here, because you own stock.

M&A at this level? NEVER means good things for anyone but stockholders. Fewer jobs. Less competition. Higher prices.
Apples & Oranges. Hugely different markets. How many local family business Genomics companies exist ?

It's too late for the FTC to help the little guys like us. I showed you the 10 chains that already monopolize retail grocery.
The small Independent grocers don't stand a chance unless they have a niche & a long standing, loyal customer base.
The big chains have won. That's what coined the term "food deserts". How many small family independent grocers can you find ?
Ten seconds ago, you bragged about being a Republican who likes less regulation.

You gonna pick a lane at some point?

And no, it's NOT too late. It's about the FTC, and our judges. We have packed our Federal Courts with 1%ers who are bought and paid for...which is why they ALWAYS rule for the monopolies over the little guy.

We did this to ourselves, OS. And YOUR party led-----and is still leading---the charge.

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:10 am
by old salt
a fan wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:42 pm

Hey fellow Forumites: how many times have you heard me tell you that these economic policies help the Coastal Liberal Elite?

And how many times have I explained that the economic policies that Old Salt is championing here royally F's TrumpNation, and working class Americans.....triply so in flyover States?
:lol: ...so many times we're sick of hearing it. You need to find a socialist or communist country to live in, which better suits you.

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:21 am
by old salt
SCLaxAttack wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:23 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:27 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:25 pm It isn’t a long stretch to see where Trump would nominate LTG Michael Flynn, RET for SecDef and his younger brother GEN Charles Flynn for CJCS, placing the older Flynn in the chain of command directly under Trump and above all military branches, and the younger Flynn his top military adviser.
This is a joke, right ? Senate confirmation for SecDef would be impossible.
This is a joke, right? If he doesn’t see him getting confirmed he’s installed as acting for four years. You keep pretending this country isn’t going to be unlike anything we’ve ever seen with Trump as president with immunity to whatever level he wants.

Prez can’t be tried while in office. Even if a D House brings impeachment, not enough Senators that aren’t MAGA to convict and throw the effer out.
He's already been President for 4 years. We survived just fine. He hasn't even been elected yet.

Did you even bother to read the ruling on immunity ? It's not an unlimited immunity. It only covers official acts. It will prevent future Presidents from weaponizing the DoJ like Biden has.

Relax. If Trump is elected, Pompeo will be SecDef & Trump will appoint whoever Pompeo recommends to be SecDef.
Just like Pompeo recommended his classmate Esper to succeed Mattis as Sec Def.
Trump will accept whoever Pompeo recommeds as CJCS.

O'Brien will return as National Security Advisor or maybe Sec of State, if that does not go to Rubio.

Ratliffe will be AG. He was confirmed last time as DNI.

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:42 am
by old salt
a fan wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:42 pm These postings make clear to everyone here: you're a boilerplate 2024 Republican: you don't have an opinion on more or less regulation. All you care about is outcome that favors you and your family.

Which is why on one hand, you complain about monopolies when it hurt your family grocery, and want MORE regulation of monopolies on one hand...while on the other, you want NO regulation for this specific company, because you think the FTC cost you millions.

I don't understand how you don't get how transparent you're being with your motivations.

What you want is a Selfish-Ocracy....you don't care how you get it---more regulation, less regulation----makes no difference to you, you just want more money. And your stunned that no one here wants what you want.
I did not complain about grocery monolipies. You did on my behalf. I told you how my family copes with it. I didn't complain about it - you did.
The FTC did not protect us & we don't need them to. They'd force us to go union, against the wishes of our employees.
I also pointed out how ridiculous it is to compare an industry leading Genomics company with an independent family grocery store.

My Motivations ? Selfish-Ocracy ? :lol: I don't seek or need more money. I just don't want to get screwed out of what we have earned, cautiously invested & saved. I told you we hope to never have to sell the ILMN stock, or our other stocks. We selected them to buy & hold, long term. We hope to bequeath them to a foundation we plan to establish, to continue our charitable work after we're gone. We maintain a modest, frugal, but comfortable lifestyle & live happily, well within our means...without drawing on our savings or investments.

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:27 am
by SCLaxAttack
old salt wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:21 am
SCLaxAttack wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:23 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:27 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:25 pm It isn’t a long stretch to see where Trump would nominate LTG Michael Flynn, RET for SecDef and his younger brother GEN Charles Flynn for CJCS, placing the older Flynn in the chain of command directly under Trump and above all military branches, and the younger Flynn his top military adviser.
This is a joke, right ? Senate confirmation for SecDef would be impossible.
This is a joke, right? If he doesn’t see him getting confirmed he’s installed as acting for four years. You keep pretending this country isn’t going to be unlike anything we’ve ever seen with Trump as president with immunity to whatever level he wants.

Prez can’t be tried while in office. Even if a D House brings impeachment, not enough Senators that aren’t MAGA to convict and throw the effer out.
He's already been President for 4 years. We survived just fine. He hasn't even been elected yet.

Did you even bother to read the ruling on immunity ? It's not an unlimited immunity. It only covers official acts. It will prevent future Presidents from weaponizing the DoJ like Biden has.

Relax. If Trump is elected, Pompeo will be SecDef & Trump will appoint whoever Pompeo recommends to be SecDef.
Just like Pompeo recommended his classmate Esper to succeed Mattis as Sec Def.
Trump will accept whoever Pompeo recommeds as CJCS.

O'Brien will return as National Security Advisor or maybe Sec of State, if that does not go to Rubio.

Ratliffe will be AG. He was confirmed last time as DNI.
Relax. LMFAO. “We survived just fine” my a$$. The last time this country was so divided was two centuries ago.

In your constant blame of Jan 6 on ineffective security you’ve continued to ignore the root cause of the incident. One guy - ONE GUY! - who did his Constitutional duty got in the way to save the Republic.

Trump has no internal guardrails and had few external ones in his first term. In a second he’ll have no and fewer if any.

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:28 am
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:42 am
a fan wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:42 pm These postings make clear to everyone here: you're a boilerplate 2024 Republican: you don't have an opinion on more or less regulation. All you care about is outcome that favors you and your family.

Which is why on one hand, you complain about monopolies when it hurt your family grocery, and want MORE regulation of monopolies on one hand...while on the other, you want NO regulation for this specific company, because you think the FTC cost you millions.

I don't understand how you don't get how transparent you're being with your motivations.

What you want is a Selfish-Ocracy....you don't care how you get it---more regulation, less regulation----makes no difference to you, you just want more money. And your stunned that no one here wants what you want.
I did not complain about grocery monolipies. You did on my behalf. I told you how my family copes with it. I didn't complain about it - you did.
The FTC did not protect us & we don't need them to. They'd force us to go union, against the wishes of our employees.
I also pointed out how ridiculous it is to compare an industry leading Genomics company with an independent family grocery store.

My Motivations ? Selfish-Ocracy ? :lol: I don't seek or need more money. I just don't want to get screwed out of what we have earned, cautiously invested & saved. I told you we hope to never have to sell the ILMN stock, or our other stocks. We selected them to buy & hold, long term. We hope to bequeath them to a foundation we plan to establish, to continue our charitable work after we're gone. We maintain a modest, frugal, but comfortable lifestyle & live happily, well within our means...without drawing on our savings or investments.
Earned?

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:20 am
by old salt
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:28 am
old salt wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:42 am
a fan wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:42 pm These postings make clear to everyone here: you're a boilerplate 2024 Republican: you don't have an opinion on more or less regulation. All you care about is outcome that favors you and your family.

Which is why on one hand, you complain about monopolies when it hurt your family grocery, and want MORE regulation of monopolies on one hand...while on the other, you want NO regulation for this specific company, because you think the FTC cost you millions.

I don't understand how you don't get how transparent you're being with your motivations.

What you want is a Selfish-Ocracy....you don't care how you get it---more regulation, less regulation----makes no difference to you, you just want more money. And your stunned that no one here wants what you want.
I did not complain about grocery monolipies. You did on my behalf. I told you how my family copes with it. I didn't complain about it - you did.
The FTC did not protect us & we don't need them to. They'd force us to go union, against the wishes of our employees.
I also pointed out how ridiculous it is to compare an industry leading Genomics company with an independent family grocery store.

My Motivations ? Selfish-Ocracy ? :lol: I don't seek or need more money. I just don't want to get screwed out of what we have earned, cautiously invested & saved. I told you we hope to never have to sell the ILMN stock, or our other stocks. We selected them to buy & hold, long term. We hope to bequeath them to a foundation we plan to establish, to continue our charitable work after we're gone. We maintain a modest, frugal, but comfortable lifestyle & live happily, well within our means...without drawing on our savings or investments.
Earned?
Yes. Our W-2's & 1099's said "earnings"...much of which we then invested.

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:27 am
by old salt
SCLaxAttack wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:27 am
old salt wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:21 am
SCLaxAttack wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:23 pm
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:27 pm
SCLaxAttack wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 7:25 pm It isn’t a long stretch to see where Trump would nominate LTG Michael Flynn, RET for SecDef and his younger brother GEN Charles Flynn for CJCS, placing the older Flynn in the chain of command directly under Trump and above all military branches, and the younger Flynn his top military adviser.
This is a joke, right ? Senate confirmation for SecDef would be impossible.
This is a joke, right? If he doesn’t see him getting confirmed he’s installed as acting for four years. You keep pretending this country isn’t going to be unlike anything we’ve ever seen with Trump as president with immunity to whatever level he wants.

Prez can’t be tried while in office. Even if a D House brings impeachment, not enough Senators that aren’t MAGA to convict and throw the effer out.
He's already been President for 4 years. We survived just fine. He hasn't even been elected yet.

Did you even bother to read the ruling on immunity ? It's not an unlimited immunity. It only covers official acts. It will prevent future Presidents from weaponizing the DoJ like Biden has.

Relax. If Trump is elected, Pompeo will be SecDef & Trump will appoint whoever Pompeo recommends to be SecDef.
Just like Pompeo recommended his classmate Esper to succeed Mattis as Sec Def.
Trump will accept whoever Pompeo recommeds as CJCS.

O'Brien will return as National Security Advisor or maybe Sec of State, if that does not go to Rubio.

Ratliffe will be AG. He was confirmed last time as DNI.
Relax. LMFAO. “We survived just fine” my a$$. The last time this country was so divided was two centuries ago.

In your constant blame of Jan 6 on ineffective security you’ve continued to ignore the root cause of the incident. One guy - ONE GUY! - who did his Constitutional duty got in the way to save the Republic.

Trump has no internal guardrails and had few external ones in his first term. In a second he’ll have no and fewer if any.
Have faith in your fellow citizens & our institutional safeguards.
The country is divided but that's not due just to Trump.

I still think Trump will lose. If Biden has a few good days in a row, he'll be declared the comeback kid.
If Biden fades or stumbles again, the Dems will replace him with someone who can beat Trump.

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:40 am
by kramerica.inc
You're not allowed to earn anything. It all must flow through govt first. And then you can have the leftover.

People in this country don't understand that the #1 goal of law enforcement is NOT to protect or serve, but to simply enter people into the judicial system.

Just like they don't understand that the #1 goal of gov't officials/politicians is not to provide basic services or protections, but to take your money to grow the government.

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:42 am
by a fan
old salt wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:42 am I did not complain about grocery monolipies. You did on my behalf. I told you how my family copes with it. I didn't complain about it - you did.
The FTC did not protect us & we don't need them to. They'd force us to go union, against the wishes of our employees.
:lol: More gaslighting.....you recognize how much harder things were made by the monopolies, and pointed it out, and told me the FTC did nothing.

You understand just fine. "Force us to go union". :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Nothing like just making stuff up to try and virtue signal.
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:31 pm I also pointed out how ridiculous it is to compare an industry leading Genomics company with an independent family grocery store.
Don't care. That's your OPINION, masquerading as fact. You're convinced that because you say something, it's a fact...which is why you ignore anything anyone here posts, and trundle ahead. No thought. No pause. Not an ounce of hubris.
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:31 pm My Motivations ? Selfish-Ocracy ? :lol: I don't seek or need more money.
Right. Yet you've now posted dozens of times showing you're clearly outraged to the point where you called the clearly qualified FTC Chair a "DEI hire". Either you are REALLY mad, or you're a racist. Pick one.

And we both know you're not a racist. This is transparently about money. If the value of the stock had remained unchanged? You wouldn't have so much as noticed what the FTC did. Trying to sell the forum on any other motivation is a waste of time. You want more money. Period.

And again.....that's fine. This is America. I wish you and your family all the success in the world.

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:43 am
by njbill
old salt wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:27 am I still think Trump will lose.
Hey, we agree on something! :)

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:47 am
by a fan
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:40 am You're not allowed to earn anything. It all must flow through govt first. And then you can have the leftover.
Again, you're a Federal contractor, Kram. If you believe this? Stop selling stuff to the .gov
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:40 am People in this country don't understand that the #1 goal of law enforcement is NOT to protect or serve, but to simply enter people into the judicial system.
That's what the Defund the Police crew says. You're on board with that, Kram?
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:40 am Just like they don't understand that the #1 goal of gov't officials/politicians is not to provide basic services or protections, but to take your money to grow the government.
Kram.....you're a Federal Contractor. Why do you keep posting this stuff?

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:51 am
by a fan
old salt wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:10 am
a fan wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:42 pm

Hey fellow Forumites: how many times have you heard me tell you that these economic policies help the Coastal Liberal Elite?

And how many times have I explained that the economic policies that Old Salt is championing here royally F's TrumpNation, and working class Americans.....triply so in flyover States?
:lol: ...so many times we're sick of hearing it. You need to find a socialist or communist country to live in, which better suits you.
Bzzzt. Wrong. STILL pretending to not pay attention.

My family is set. So are all my liberal friends, who are all top earners. Trump will make them richer. And you know it.

I'll keep broken-record-ing until you get it.

The folks who need to move to the socialist or commie country are your buddies....TrumpNation. You know: the working class you claim to care about, but every post you make on economics show that you plainly don't care. TrumpNation should get a third job, and eat cake.

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:55 am
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:20 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:28 am
old salt wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:42 am
a fan wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:42 pm These postings make clear to everyone here: you're a boilerplate 2024 Republican: you don't have an opinion on more or less regulation. All you care about is outcome that favors you and your family.

Which is why on one hand, you complain about monopolies when it hurt your family grocery, and want MORE regulation of monopolies on one hand...while on the other, you want NO regulation for this specific company, because you think the FTC cost you millions.

I don't understand how you don't get how transparent you're being with your motivations.

What you want is a Selfish-Ocracy....you don't care how you get it---more regulation, less regulation----makes no difference to you, you just want more money. And your stunned that no one here wants what you want.
I did not complain about grocery monolipies. You did on my behalf. I told you how my family copes with it. I didn't complain about it - you did.
The FTC did not protect us & we don't need them to. They'd force us to go union, against the wishes of our employees.
I also pointed out how ridiculous it is to compare an industry leading Genomics company with an independent family grocery store.

My Motivations ? Selfish-Ocracy ? :lol: I don't seek or need more money. I just don't want to get screwed out of what we have earned, cautiously invested & saved. I told you we hope to never have to sell the ILMN stock, or our other stocks. We selected them to buy & hold, long term. We hope to bequeath them to a foundation we plan to establish, to continue our charitable work after we're gone. We maintain a modest, frugal, but comfortable lifestyle & live happily, well within our means...without drawing on our savings or investments.
Earned?
Yes. Our W-2's & 1099's said "earnings"...much of which we then invested.
I assumed your earnings was a reference to the Illumina stock.

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:08 am
by old salt
a fan wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:42 am
old salt wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:42 am I did not complain about grocery monolipies. You did on my behalf. I told you how my family copes with it. I didn't complain about it - you did.
The FTC did not protect us & we don't need them to. They'd force us to go union, against the wishes of our employees.
:lol: More gaslighting.....you recognize how much harder things were made by the monopolies, and pointed it out, and told me the FTC did nothing.

You understand just fine. "Force us to go union". :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Nothing like just making stuff up to try and virtue signal.
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:31 pm I also pointed out how ridiculous it is to compare an industry leading Genomics company with an independent family grocery store.
Don't care. That's your OPINION, masquerading as fact. You're convinced that because you say something, it's a fact...which is why you ignore anything anyone here posts, and trundle ahead. No thought. No pause. Not an ounce of hubris.
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:31 pm My Motivations ? Selfish-Ocracy ? :lol: I don't seek or need more money.
Right. Yet you've now posted dozens of times showing you're clearly outraged to the point where you called the clearly qualified FTC Chair a "DEI hire". Either you are REALLY mad, or you're a racist. Pick one.

And we both know you're not a racist. This is transparently about money. If the value of the stock had remained unchanged? You wouldn't have so much as noticed what the FTC did. Trying to sell the forum on any other motivation is a waste of time. You want more money. Period.

And again.....that's fine. This is America. I wish you and your family all the success in the world.
You're right -- I'm REALLY mad. ...not at the lost money but losing the amount of good things we could have done with it.
I'm aware that you should never invest money in stocks that you can't afford to lose. We factored that in when we bought & retained ILMN.
By all metrics, it was a rock solid long term play. No risk factors. No way to anticipate Khan's overreach. It was unprecedented in many ways.
Her hiring & trustbusting is part of a DEI agenda.

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:28 am
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:08 am
a fan wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:42 am
old salt wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:42 am I did not complain about grocery monolipies. You did on my behalf. I told you how my family copes with it. I didn't complain about it - you did.
The FTC did not protect us & we don't need them to. They'd force us to go union, against the wishes of our employees.
:lol: More gaslighting.....you recognize how much harder things were made by the monopolies, and pointed it out, and told me the FTC did nothing.

You understand just fine. "Force us to go union". :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Nothing like just making stuff up to try and virtue signal.
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:31 pm I also pointed out how ridiculous it is to compare an industry leading Genomics company with an independent family grocery store.
Don't care. That's your OPINION, masquerading as fact. You're convinced that because you say something, it's a fact...which is why you ignore anything anyone here posts, and trundle ahead. No thought. No pause. Not an ounce of hubris.
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:31 pm My Motivations ? Selfish-Ocracy ? :lol: I don't seek or need more money.
Right. Yet you've now posted dozens of times showing you're clearly outraged to the point where you called the clearly qualified FTC Chair a "DEI hire". Either you are REALLY mad, or you're a racist. Pick one.

And we both know you're not a racist. This is transparently about money. If the value of the stock had remained unchanged? You wouldn't have so much as noticed what the FTC did. Trying to sell the forum on any other motivation is a waste of time. You want more money. Period.

And again.....that's fine. This is America. I wish you and your family all the success in the world.
You're right -- I'm REALLY mad. ...not at the lost money but losing the amount of good things we could have done with it.
I'm aware that you should never invest money in stocks that you can't afford to lose. We factored that in when we bought & retained ILMN.
By all metrics, it was a rock solid long term play. No risk factors. No way to anticipate Khan's overreach. It was unprecedented in many ways.
Her hiring & trustbusting is part of a DEI agenda.
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Commission, the FTC and/or other governmental or regulatory authorities, that have been issued in the past or may be issued in the
future, and/or other adverse consequences resulting from our decision to proceed with the completion of the acquisition, have
resulted in significant financial penalties, operational restrictions and increased costs, and could result in similar additional future
consequences or further result in loss of revenues, implicate our existing contractual arrangements or require us to divest all or a
portion of the assets or equity interests of GRAIL on terms that are materially worse than the terms on which we acquired GRAIL, any
or all of which, individually or in the aggregate, could have a material adverse effect on our business, financial condition and results
of operation.
14) We are subject to various uncertainties and restrictions while the Acquisition remains subject to ongoing regulatory and legal review
and proceedings related thereto, including the EC Divestment Decision, that could adversely affect our business, financial condition
and results of operations.
15) The market price of our common stock may decline as a result of the Acquisition and the final outcomes of the regulatory and judicial
reviews thereof.
16) If we fail to maintain and successfully manage our strategic collaborations, our future results may be adversely impacted.
17) Litigation, other proceedings, or third-party claims of intellectual property infringement could require us to spend significant time and
money and could prevent us from selling our products or services.
18) If product or service liability lawsuits are successfully brought against us, we may face reduced demand for our products and incur
significant liabilities.
19) Our products, if used for the diagnosis of disease, could be subject to government regulation, and the regulatory approval and
maintenance process for such products may be expensive, time-consuming, and uncertain both in timing and in outcome.
20) If the FDA requires in the future that any of our LDT products be subject to regulatory clearance or approval, our business, financial
condition, or results of operations could be adversely affected.
21) Despite using commercially reasonable measures to secure our systems, networks, and products, security breaches, including with
respect to cybersecurity, and other disruptions could compromise our information, products, and services, disrupt our or our
customers’ operations, and expose us to liability, which could cause our business and reputation to suffer.

There are more but you get the idea. As usual, just because you make a declarative statement, it doesn't make it a fact. Some suggested reading:

https://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/C ... b0894e.pdf

Re: 2024

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:30 am
by a fan
old salt wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:08 am
a fan wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:42 am
old salt wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:42 am I did not complain about grocery monolipies. You did on my behalf. I told you how my family copes with it. I didn't complain about it - you did.
The FTC did not protect us & we don't need them to. They'd force us to go union, against the wishes of our employees.
:lol: More gaslighting.....you recognize how much harder things were made by the monopolies, and pointed it out, and told me the FTC did nothing.

You understand just fine. "Force us to go union". :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Nothing like just making stuff up to try and virtue signal.
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:31 pm I also pointed out how ridiculous it is to compare an industry leading Genomics company with an independent family grocery store.
Don't care. That's your OPINION, masquerading as fact. You're convinced that because you say something, it's a fact...which is why you ignore anything anyone here posts, and trundle ahead. No thought. No pause. Not an ounce of hubris.
old salt wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:31 pm My Motivations ? Selfish-Ocracy ? :lol: I don't seek or need more money.
Right. Yet you've now posted dozens of times showing you're clearly outraged to the point where you called the clearly qualified FTC Chair a "DEI hire". Either you are REALLY mad, or you're a racist. Pick one.

And we both know you're not a racist. This is transparently about money. If the value of the stock had remained unchanged? You wouldn't have so much as noticed what the FTC did. Trying to sell the forum on any other motivation is a waste of time. You want more money. Period.

And again.....that's fine. This is America. I wish you and your family all the success in the world.
You're right -- I'm REALLY mad. ...not at the lost money but losing the amount of good things we could have done with it.
I'm aware that you should never invest money in stocks that you can't afford to lose. We factored that in when we bought & retained ILMN.
By all metrics, it was a rock solid long term play. No risk factors. No way to anticipate Khan's overreach. It was unprecedented in many ways.
Her hiring & trustbusting is part of a DEI agenda.
"No risk factors". OS, FFS, you're just off the rails on this one. There's no such thing as no risk factors, and you know it. Don't want to tangle with the FTC? Don't invest in businesses than anyone with a pulse can see is, to put it euphemistically, a likely monopoly.

Blaming a regulator is soft cheese. Something half-wit day traders do when they suck at their job.

And hitting her for race is just......just stop. This is a performance for the Forum. My 9 yo isn't this dramatic, for heaven's same. You'll get plenty of money.