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Re: Sexual Assault ~ #MeToo ~ #TimesUp

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:09 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:58 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:20 am
foreverlax wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:56 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:18 pm
Trinity wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:38 pm That’s the problem. Swamp sheep.
This case laid dormant for 8 years. What prompted SDNY to re-open a case which another Fed district had resolved ?

New evidence ? Attention focused on Acosta in his confirmation hearings ? # MeToo ? The Miami Herald report ?

All of the above ?
How about justice for all involved?
Dude would rather defend a ped-O-phile
This, coming from the clown who said of Clinton/Lewinsky... "it was just a bj." Selective morality I suppose :oops:
Monica was under aged? Bill Clinton may turn out to be a pedophile also but it won't be because he got a BJ from Lewinsky. If it turns out that he was having sex with underage girls, bury him....I figured you would chime in, Chester.

Re: Sexual Assault ~ #MeToo ~ #TimesUp

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:11 pm
by tech37
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:09 pm
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:58 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:20 am
foreverlax wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:56 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:18 pm
Trinity wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:38 pm That’s the problem. Swamp sheep.
This case laid dormant for 8 years. What prompted SDNY to re-open a case which another Fed district had resolved ?

New evidence ? Attention focused on Acosta in his confirmation hearings ? # MeToo ? The Miami Herald report ?

All of the above ?
How about justice for all involved?
Dude would rather defend a ped-O-phile
This, coming from the clown who said of Clinton/Lewinsky... "it was just a bj." Selective morality I suppose :oops:
Monica was under aged? Bill Clinton may turn out to be a pedophile also but it won't be because he got a BJ from Lewinsky. If it turns out that he was having sex with underage girls, bury him....I figured you would chime in, Chester.
Morality is not bound by age. She was an intern buster...

Re: Sexual Assault ~ #MeToo ~ #TimesUp

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:12 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
old salt wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:01 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:48 pm
old salt wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:44 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:20 am
foreverlax wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:56 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:18 pm
Trinity wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:38 pm That’s the problem. Swamp sheep.
This case laid dormant for 8 years. What prompted SDNY to re-open a case which another Fed district had resolved ?

New evidence ? Attention focused on Acosta in his confirmation hearings ? # MeToo ? The Miami Herald report ?

All of the above ?
How about justice for all involved?
Dude would rather defend a ped-O-phile
I wasn't defending you.
Just asking for info from those who have followed this more closely than I have.
This is supposed to be a forum for information exchange.
How 'bout some straight answers, rather than passive aggressive bs.

Given the magnitude & breadth of Epstein's depravity, it's stunning that this remained buried for so long & received so little national coverage when the plea deal was made. Where was the MSM on this ?

Some victims reportedly received restitution in the plea deal. Did they have to sign non-disclosure agreements ?

Did Acosta, FL prosecutors, or the FL Judge/AG have to explain to the MSM how this case was resolved ?
Why they didn't take it to trial ?
Did they say they did it to spare the victims the trauma of testifying at a trial.
No honor or integrity. Carry on Old Sailor
I'm looking forward to your next tutorial post about intersex condition & ambiguous genatilia.
Some of your best work. You bring so much to the discussion.
As you were.
It is not my work.... I provided links to the citations. As you were.

Re: Sexual Assault ~ #MeToo ~ #TimesUp

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:14 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:11 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:09 pm
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:58 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:20 am
foreverlax wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:56 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:18 pm
Trinity wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:38 pm That’s the problem. Swamp sheep.
This case laid dormant for 8 years. What prompted SDNY to re-open a case which another Fed district had resolved ?

New evidence ? Attention focused on Acosta in his confirmation hearings ? # MeToo ? The Miami Herald report ?

All of the above ?
How about justice for all involved?
Dude would rather defend a ped-O-phile
This, coming from the clown who said of Clinton/Lewinsky... "it was just a bj." Selective morality I suppose :oops:
Monica was under aged? Bill Clinton may turn out to be a pedophile also but it won't be because he got a BJ from Lewinsky. If it turns out that he was having sex with underage girls, bury him....I figured you would chime in, Chester.
Morality is not bound by age.
Bill took advantage of his position of power. He should have be man enough to not take advantage of a young girl that paid some attention to him....what is your excuse and old toothless' excuse for giving Trump a hummer?

Re: Sexual Assault ~ #MeToo ~ #TimesUp

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:20 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:11 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:09 pm
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:58 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:20 am
foreverlax wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:56 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:18 pm
Trinity wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:38 pm That’s the problem. Swamp sheep.
This case laid dormant for 8 years. What prompted SDNY to re-open a case which another Fed district had resolved ?

New evidence ? Attention focused on Acosta in his confirmation hearings ? # MeToo ? The Miami Herald report ?

All of the above ?
How about justice for all involved?
Dude would rather defend a ped-O-phile
This, coming from the clown who said of Clinton/Lewinsky... "it was just a bj." Selective morality I suppose :oops:
Monica was under aged? Bill Clinton may turn out to be a pedophile also but it won't be because he got a BJ from Lewinsky. If it turns out that he was having sex with underage girls, bury him....I figured you would chime in, Chester.
Morality is not bound by age. She was an intern buster...
:lol:

Re: Sexual Assault ~ #MeToo ~ #TimesUp

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:38 pm
by old salt
foreverlax wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:46 pm He is talking right now....
Thanks for the heads up. Caught most of it.

Same question. Where was the media in 2008 ?

Why wait over a decade, ...until Acosta's a Trump appointee ?

Was Epstein's sentencing not on the public record ?

Did no one notice that Epstein was on the sex offender registry ?

Re: Sexual Assault ~ #MeToo ~ #TimesUp

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:58 pm
by Trinity
They didn’t even look at Epstein’s computers. Not the Feds. Not the State. Not interested. Gave them back. They considered charging in Miami so the PB victims wouldn’t know. Julie Brown said the local cops did a brilliant job. The squash came from above. Who benefits when law enforcement acts like this? Maybe this time we learn.

Re: Sexual Assault ~ #MeToo ~ #TimesUp

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:04 pm
by tech37
old salt wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:38 pm
foreverlax wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:46 pm He is talking right now....
Thanks for the heads up. Caught most of it.

Same question. Where was the media in 2008 ?

Why wait over a decade, ...until Acosta's a Trump appointee ?

Was Epstein's sentencing not on the public record ?

Did no one notice that Epstein was on the sex offender registry ?
Easy OS, his association with the Clintons protected him.

Now that Bill is out of vogue and Hilz blew it, the resistance tries a new angle to nail Trump ;)

Bill will be considered collateral damage if they get Trump.

Re: Sexual Assault ~ #MeToo ~ #TimesUp

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:12 pm
by Trinity
Bush was President when Acosta killed this Investigation.

Re: Sexual Assault ~ #MeToo ~ #TimesUp

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:17 pm
by MDlaxfan76
old salt wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:38 pm
foreverlax wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:46 pm He is talking right now....
Thanks for the heads up. Caught most of it.

Same question. Where was the media in 2008 ?

Why wait over a decade, ...until Acosta's a Trump appointee ?

Was Epstein's sentencing not on the public record ?

Did no one notice that Epstein was on the sex offender registry ?
Salty,
Your questions would be received as reasonable and even interesting if you didn’t have such a pattern of always trying to excuse Trump or some Trump ally, by casting shade on the media, the IC, the “Derp State” etc.

This situation has come to the fore not because Trump is in the White House (unless we ascribe the momentum of #metoo to his election). The victims have fought for 11 years to bring this back into the light, facing all sorts of intimidation. The reporter in Miami has fought for them, and was supported by her paper but few others.

Why? Because the rich and powerful ( they come in all political stripes) wanted all of this sort of stuff buried.

#metoo finally broke through. Just as in other successful social movements, a tipping point was reached in which the realization of the morality of the matter became obvious to most. For instance in the Civil Rights movement of the ‘60’s, there were a series of events and images, but none more awakening than the pictures on TV of dogs and police and hate filled people screaming at children. Or Vietnam body bags, Kent State shooting. The momentum simply grew, and what had been buried began to come to light . Pentagon papers, My Lai, etc

Yes, the moment implicates Trump. There’s no question of his infidelities and his misogyny. On tape, as well as a huge # of accusations of sexual assaults. It is what it is.

And yes, like so many of Trump’s appointments, either the vetting was inadequate, or worse they didn’t care.

And yes, Trumps support for Roy Moore is implicating in the overall zeitgeist.

But Trump is just one of many rich, powerful, famous men who have too long gotten away with egregious behaviors . And those who have enabled them to do so by kowtowing to that wealth and power, are being hauled on to the carpet too.

It’s all long overdue.

Re: Sexual Assault ~ #MeToo ~ #TimesUp

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:19 pm
by Trinity
Acosta: "He's a bad man and needs to be put away."*

*Acosta had the opportunity to "put him away" but gave him monitored work release and granted immunity to his co-conspirators instead.

-Tea Pain on Twitter

Re: Sexual Assault ~ #MeToo ~ #TimesUp

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:21 pm
by foreverlax
old salt wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:38 pm
foreverlax wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:46 pm He is talking right now....
Thanks for the heads up. Caught most of it.

Same question. Where was the media in 2008 ?

Why wait over a decade, ...until Acosta's a Trump appointee ?

Was Epstein's sentencing not on the public record ?

Did no one notice that Epstein was on the sex offender registry ?
Lots of questions have to be answered....Acosta never answered if the Mueller weighed in.

Re: Sexual Assault ~ #MeToo ~ #TimesUp

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:23 pm
by tech37
Trinity wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:12 pm Bush was President when Acosta killed this Investigation.
What does that have to do with Ep's association with the anointed ones?

Re: Sexual Assault ~ #MeToo ~ #TimesUp

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:32 pm
by MDlaxfan76
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:23 pm
Trinity wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:12 pm Bush was President when Acosta killed this Investigation.
What does that have to do with Ep's association with the anointed ones?
Power. Clinton no longer President.
If Acosta was told to bury it by folks above him, political types, they would have been Republicans.

But we don’t know yet how this all went down, who leveraged who. It’s conceivable that Clinton allies were involved, but I suspect the impulse to bury it was bipartisan, more about a whole bunch of rich and powerful men reaching out to squelch further digging.

Re: Sexual Assault ~ #MeToo ~ #TimesUp

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:34 pm
by runrussellrun
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:09 pm
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:58 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:20 am
foreverlax wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:56 am
old salt wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:18 pm
Trinity wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:38 pm That’s the problem. Swamp sheep.
This case laid dormant for 8 years. What prompted SDNY to re-open a case which another Fed district had resolved ?

New evidence ? Attention focused on Acosta in his confirmation hearings ? # MeToo ? The Miami Herald report ?

All of the above ?
How about justice for all involved?
Dude would rather defend a ped-O-phile
This, coming from the clown who said of Clinton/Lewinsky... "it was just a bj." Selective morality I suppose :oops:
Monica was under aged? Bill Clinton may turn out to be a pedophile also but it won't be because he got a BJ from Lewinsky. If it turns out that he was having sex with underage girls, bury him....I figured you would chime in, Chester.
DIfferent type of sleeze, but still slime.

But, yeah, I fire ALL employees that refuse to give me a BJ, regardess of age.

Re: Sexual Assault ~ #MeToo ~ #TimesUp

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:35 pm
by tech37
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:32 pm
tech37 wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:23 pm
Trinity wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:12 pm Bush was President when Acosta killed this Investigation.
What does that have to do with Ep's association with the anointed ones?
Power. Clinton no longer President.
If Acosta was told to bury it by folks above him, political types, they would have been Republicans.

But we don’t know yet how this all went down, who leveraged who. It’s conceivable that Clinton allies were involved, but I suspect the impulse to bury it was bipartisan, more about a whole bunch of rich and powerful men reaching out to squelch further digging.
I understand that. I was answering OS's question as to why the media is appalled now, but not then.

Re: Sexual Assault ~ #MeToo ~ #TimesUp

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:37 pm
by runrussellrun
Trinity wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:12 pm Bush was President when Acosta killed this Investigation.
all by his lonesome.......self. ;)

Re: Sexual Assault ~ #MeToo ~ #TimesUp

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:40 pm
by Trinity
Imagine the fury if Hillary was President and the First Spouse was wrapped into the scandal, as he clearly is. It’s industrial strength sex trafficking, according to Axios. Wait before you dig your heels in. This really can be bi-partisan. Epstein is a victim of one dogged reporter. The rest of the media is now following along.

Re: Sexual Assault ~ #MeToo ~ #TimesUp

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:43 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
Trinity wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:40 pm Imagine the fury if Hillary was President and the First Spouse was wrapped into the scandal, as he clearly is. It’s industrial strength sex trafficking, according to Axios. Wait before you dig your heels in. This really can be bi-partisan.
I would love nothing more than to see these dirt bags do time for taking advantage of little girls.

Re: Sexual Assault ~ #MeToo ~ #TimesUp

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:44 pm
by Trinity
Electric bleachers.