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Re: 2020 Elections - On Deck

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:03 pm
by jhu72

Re: 2020 Elections - On Deck

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:49 am
by dislaxxic

Re: 2020 Elections - On Deck

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:15 pm
by Trinity
Waiting for Michael Bloomberg.....with Kamala Harris or Amy Klobuchar or whoever can keep a straight face while debating The Pence. Trump will look a grifter, whiny brat. Bloomberg brings Trump a varsity opponent. Real man. Real money. Real charity. Can operate a government.

Re: 2020 Elections - On Deck

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:14 pm
by old salt
Bloomberg can win the general election but can he get the (D) nomination ?

He's waiting for Biden to decide.

Re: 2020 Elections - On Deck

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:13 pm
by Trinity
I wish he’d jump in now, Big, and swamp the little boats. Think how stupid Trump’s charge of Socialist will look.

Re: 2020 Elections - On Deck

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:49 pm
by frmanfan
He will never get the D nomination.

http://www.ontheissues.org/mike_bloomberg.htm

Re: 2020 Elections - On Deck

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 5:21 pm
by a fan
We're in the Trump era. Never say never!

Re: 2020 Elections - On Deck

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:01 pm
by kramerica.inc
Hillary is officially out, for now, mostly.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hillar ... -interview

Re: 2020 Elections - On Deck

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:23 pm
by Trinity
Bloomberg is out. So my guy now is Sherrod Brown. Expect he’ll announce he’s out soon.

Re: 2020 Elections - On Deck

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:46 pm
by jhu72
Bloomberg out likely means Biden is in. Bloomberg will have no problem backing Biden.

Suspect Sherrod Brown will not run if Biden does. They are too much alike. Brown would have a long way to go to catch up to Biden's name recognition. Biden will clearly threaten Trump's non-deplorable, working class backers. He is liberal enough. Will have a small problem with the AA base, but not running against Trump. Women and gays like him. Independents will like him because he is non-threatening "economically". He is not a scary small woman claiming to be a socialist. :lol: He is not an ideologue, liked by people he has worked with on both sides, knows the system, and is a decent human being. 78 in 2020 vs Orange Duce 74, so age is not an issue.

If Biden had run rather than Hillary, there would have been no Orange Duce. Word is the democratic base is looking for electability (recent polls), not ideology in a candidate this round.

Re: 2020 Elections - On Deck

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:29 pm
by youthathletics
Biden should not run. He will put his foot in his mouth and give pause to voters wondering if he still has his withers about him. Then again, I say let him run, it helps Trump. ;)

Re: 2020 Elections - On jerk

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:31 am
by holmes435
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:29 pm Biden should not run. He will put his foot in his mouth and give pause to voters wondering if he still has his withers about him. Then again, I say let him run, it helps Trump. ;)

Putting your foot in your mouth and making voters wonder if you have your wits about you is the key to winning the presidential election as of late.

I'd vote for Biden over Trump, if I don't have a Republican primary option and have to vote in the D primary, I'm voting a few people ahead of Biden. He's got the middle America working class bootstrap credibility, but he's past his prime. I don't think he's actually going to run.

Re: 2020 Elections - On jerk

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:43 am
by frmanfan
frmanfan wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2019 3:49 pm He will never get the D nomination.

http://www.ontheissues.org/mike_bloomberg.htm
And Bloomberg realized he couldn't win the D nomination. Confident he would beat Trump in the general election though.

Biden is past his prime, mentally, although his prime was never any high peak, so it really isn't much of a dropoff.

I'm still predicting Bernie vs. Trump.

And of course I am celebrating the decision by HRC to not run, now if only she would just go away. Is that too much to hope for?

Re: 2020 Elections - On jerk

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:09 am
by youthathletics
holmes435 wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:31 am
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:29 pm Biden should not run. He will put his foot in his mouth and give pause to voters wondering if he still has his withers about him. Then again, I say let him run, it helps Trump. ;)

Putting your foot in your mouth and making voters wonder if you have your wits about you is the key to winning the presidential election as of late.

I'd vote for Biden over Trump, if I don't have a Republican primary option and have to vote in the D primary, I'm voting a few people ahead of Biden. He's got the middle America working class bootstrap credibility, but he's past his prime. I don't think he's actually going to run.
I agree with you holmes. That was the jest of my comment. Sadly, politics have turned into crass theater. It would be refreshing to see some decorum this next election cycle...one can wish can't he?

Re: 2020 Elections - On jerk

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:34 am
by foreverlax
youthathletics wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:09 am
holmes435 wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:31 am
youthathletics wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:29 pm Biden should not run. He will put his foot in his mouth and give pause to voters wondering if he still has his withers about him. Then again, I say let him run, it helps Trump. ;)

Putting your foot in your mouth and making voters wonder if you have your wits about you is the key to winning the presidential election as of late.

I'd vote for Biden over Trump, if I don't have a Republican primary option and have to vote in the D primary, I'm voting a few people ahead of Biden. He's got the middle America working class bootstrap credibility, but he's past his prime. I don't think he's actually going to run.
I agree with you holmes. That was the jest of my comment. Sadly, politics have turned into crass theater. It would be refreshing to see some decorum this next election cycle...one can wish can't he?

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Doubt he will be able to stalk his next opponent.

Re: 2020 Elections - On jerk

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:40 am
by youthathletics
He'll find a new one.

Re: 2020 Elections - On jerk

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 11:01 am
by 6ftstick

Re: 2020 Elections - On jerk

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:55 pm
by seacoaster
Frank Bruni's Wednesday column; this one on Hickenlooper.

"My midweek column looks at John Hickenlooper, the former governor of Colorado. He just added his name to the quickly swelling field of contenders for the Democratic presidential nomination, and while no political prognosticator is giving him great odds to win, he certainly warrants a close look.
He’s not a creature of Washington, a place for which voters have little affection. He’s not from either coast, and there’s little in his background that tags him as a member of the much-reviled elite. Colorado is a purple state that cultivates Democrats who can appeal to a range of voters, which he can do. He has extensive executive experience: not just eight years as governor but also eight years before that as the mayor of Denver.
I spoke with him on Tuesday morning, and while some of what he said is in my column, what follows isn’t. I asked him about issues in the foreground of the contest for the Democratic presidential nomination so far.

Single-payer health care? He said that “everybody deserves some level of health care coverage” and that he wants to move the country there, but he doesn’t support an end to private insurance, largely because so many Americans have it and are happy with those plans. He cited some of the same statistics that my colleague David Brooks used in his most recent column: Roughly 181 million Americans receive health insurance through employers. About 70 percent of them profess contentment with their coverage.

Free college for everybody? He doubts that we can afford it and worries that the focus on this distracts from the value and possibility of better vocational training tailored to the job market. “Right now, 60 to 75 percent of our kids are never going to get a college degree,” he said. “And we’ve backed off on our skills training. We have high-paying jobs that are going unfilled because people don’t have the skills. I could see getting free skills for everybody.”

Reparations? He’s skeptical that the details could ever be worked out. But he thinks that we must be more aggressive about marshaling the resources to eliminate achievement gaps in education and “make sure there’s a level playing field.”
I asked him if, given his tempered positions, he’s worried that the rest of the Democratic Party is moving too far left. No, he said, reasoning that the party “has always been a big tent. Having that diversity of ideas and a diversity of people to debate them is a strength.” It was an upbeat answer from one of the most consistently upbeat politicians I know."

We can use this thread to look at candidates, and actually impart some information for folks.

Re: 2020 Elections - On jerk

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:15 pm
by a fan
$2 Trillion in more socialism, 6ft, signed into law by your own Republican party.

$17 Billion more for farmers to literally do nothing.

But it's all cool with you, right? It's not socialism if 6ftstick sez so, right?

;)

Re: 2020 Elections - On jerk

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:30 pm
by jhu72