Elon Musk (yet another authoritarian)

[Farfromgeneva]

Elon Musk approached Glencore CEO about buying stake in JSE-listed mining giant

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The world's richest man, SA-born Elon Musk, held talks with Glencore, which is headed by South African Gary Nagle, over the possibility of Tesla buying as much as a fifth of the mining and commodity giant, according to a report by the Financial Times.

This comes on the heels of Musk closing his R805 billion takeover of Twitter last week.

Two sources familiar with the matter told the FT that discussions for the electric car and battery maker buying a 10 to 20% stake in Glencore began last year and continued in March when Nagle, Glencore's CEO, visited Telsa's California factory. The electric car industry is reliant on mining companies for raw materials such as cobalt, lithium, and nickel for batteries.

Glencore has a market cap of nearly R1.4 trillion.

The talks ended without a deal, as Tesla was reportedly concerned about whether Glencore's coal mining business was compatible with its environmental goals.

Tesla didn't respond to the FT's request for comment, while Glencore declined to comment.

Musk had previously tweeted that "Tesla might actually have to get into the mining & refining directly", referencing rising lithium prices.

Glencore is one of the world's largest cobalt suppliers, and it currently has a deal with Tesla for up to 6 000 tons of cobalt a year to build lithium-ion batteries at the company's Shanghai and Berlin Gigafactories. Glencore has cobalt operations in the Democratic Republic of Congo. Cobalt mining in the country has been linked to human rights abuses and use of child labour.

Tesla previously defended that deal, saying:

Because Tesla recognizes the higher risks of human rights issues within cobalt supply chains, particularly for child labor in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, we have made a significant effort to establish processes to remove these risks from our supply chain.

[Kismet]

https://davetroy.medium.com/no-elon-and ... 88cde5267d

Hoo Boy. Can someone translate this?

Alos this news this morning

https://www.cnet.com/news/social-media/ ... -accounts/

"Twitter Reportedly Plans to Charge $20 a Month for Verified Accounts
Reports state Twitter is considering a $20 a month subscription for blue checkmarks."

[RedFromMI]

https://davetroy.medium.com/no-elon-and ... 88cde5267d

Hoo Boy. Can someone translate this?

A couple of rich people think they know better and want to make sure abhorrent thought has its way...

That is what I got out of it.

[youthathletics]

Musk finding cookies in the cookie jar: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/158 ... rb4xktRw1A

Not possible. Twitter is a happy-huggy "town square" that lives to serve America, YA, and has no other priority.

You should be thrilled Elon took your advice from back in the day, its another chance to say "see, I told ya so". I can recall all those comments like... "if you don't like being censored, then go start your own social media platform". Now Elon does just that, and you simply found another reason to be fussy.

Help us out here..sure seems like you just enjoy to argue for the sake or arguing.

[MDlaxfan76]

https://davetroy.medium.com/no-elon-and ... 88cde5267d

Hoo Boy. Can someone translate this?

A couple of rich people think they know better and want to make sure abhorrent thought has its way...

That is what I got out of it.

Musk is a sociopath.
But a lot of the analysis of his intentions, and Dorsey's, misunderstands and underestimates the magnitude of Musk's (sociopathic) ambitions.

[jhu72]

https://davetroy.medium.com/no-elon-and ... 88cde5267d

Hoo Boy. Can someone translate this?

Alos this news this morning

https://www.cnet.com/news/social-media/ ... -accounts/

"Twitter Reportedly Plans to Charge $20 a Month for Verified Accounts
Reports state Twitter is considering a $20 a month subscription for blue checkmarks."

It is a conspiracy theory that puts 2 + 2 together to get 5. It tries to sell the theory that Musk and rich friends in the technology space don't really care about money, that they have an overarching humanitarian interest, technology billionaires running the world. What is important is getting man to colonize space as soon as possible. To do this the billionaires have to own the worlds disinformation space, they have to control the flow of information. That is what the Twitter deal is all about. The only people that will buy this are the weak minded. Of course there is a built in audience for this -- Trump's world.

Of course Trump, Kanye West and Putin all have their parts to play. Reminds me of really bad early 1950s science fiction.

There is of course danger in all of this. I believe the part about Musk wanting to control the disinformation space. He has a bad case of Trump envy.

[jhu72]

https://davetroy.medium.com/no-elon-and ... 88cde5267d

Hoo Boy. Can someone translate this?

A couple of rich people think they know better and want to make sure abhorrent thought has its way...

That is what I got out of it.

Musk is a sociopath.
But a lot of the analysis of his intentions, and Dorsey's, misunderstands and underestimates the magnitude of Musk's (sociopathic) ambitions.

... yes he is a sociopath.

[jhu72]

https://davetroy.medium.com/no-elon-and ... 88cde5267d

Hoo Boy. Can someone translate this?

A couple of rich people think they know better and want to make sure abhorrent thought has its way...

That is what I got out of it.

Musk is a sociopath.
But a lot of the analysis of his intentions, and Dorsey's, misunderstands and underestimates the magnitude of Musk's (sociopathic) ambitions.

... yes he is a sociopath.


PS -- there is a much more interesting and truthful article advertised in the blog's sidebar: Russia's (strategic) nuclear weapons may not work.

[jhu72]

Instagram users are freaking out.

[get it to x]

https://davetroy.medium.com/no-elon-and ... 88cde5267d

Hoo Boy. Can someone translate this?

A couple of rich people think they know better and want to make sure abhorrent thought has its way...

That is what I got out of it.

Musk is a sociopath.
But a lot of the analysis of his intentions, and Dorsey's, misunderstands and underestimates the magnitude of Musk's (sociopathic) ambitions.

... yes he is a sociopath.

You have between the two of you 32,000 posts on a lacrosse website. Surely that fits somewhere in this reference:

https://www.psychiatry.org/psychiatrists/practice/dsm

[PizzaSnake]

https://davetroy.medium.com/no-elon-and ... 88cde5267d

Hoo Boy. Can someone translate this?

A couple of rich people think they know better and want to make sure abhorrent thought has its way...

That is what I got out of it.

Musk is a sociopath.
But a lot of the analysis of his intentions, and Dorsey's, misunderstands and underestimates the magnitude of Musk's (sociopathic) ambitions.

Maybe it will be re-branded “Qwitter”?

Elon looks like he is going to flame out.

[PizzaSnake]

https://davetroy.medium.com/no-elon-and ... 88cde5267d

Hoo Boy. Can someone translate this?

A couple of rich people think they know better and want to make sure abhorrent thought has its way...

That is what I got out of it.

Musk is a sociopath.
But a lot of the analysis of his intentions, and Dorsey's, misunderstands and underestimates the magnitude of Musk's (sociopathic) ambitions.

... yes he is a sociopath.

You have between the two of you 32,000 posts on a lacrosse website. Surely that fits somewhere in this reference:

https://www.psychiatry.org/psychiatrists/practice/dsm

You have your entries as well. Do you understand the purpose of the DSM?

[a fan]

Musk finding cookies in the cookie jar: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/158 ... rb4xktRw1A

Not possible. Twitter is a happy-huggy "town square" that lives to serve America, YA, and has no other priority.

You should be thrilled Elon took your advice from back in the day, its another chance to say "see, I told ya so". I can recall all those comments like... "if you don't like being censored, then go start your own social media platform". Now Elon does just that, and you simply found another reason to be fussy.

? How am I being fussy? I'm being consistent..... I'm STILL mocking those who think a private company is a "town hall", and MUST publish anything its users want them to publish.

I'm making fun of these idiots. And they deserve it.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://davetroy.medium.com/no-elon-and ... 88cde5267d

Hoo Boy. Can someone translate this?

A couple of rich people think they know better and want to make sure abhorrent thought has its way...

That is what I got out of it.

Musk is a sociopath.
But a lot of the analysis of his intentions, and Dorsey's, misunderstands and underestimates the magnitude of Musk's (sociopathic) ambitions.

... yes he is a sociopath.

Has the potential to be dangerous.

[youthathletics]

Musk tweeting about Paul Pelosi conspiracy theories (that it was a gay encounter gone wrong)

GM has paused their adverting with Twitter

Welcome to America where the inmates run the asylum.

Link? I just scrolled through his timeline and see nothing. https://twitter.com/elonmusk

Did some digging and found this: https://web.archive.org/web/20221029193 ... /7191.html

Try this

https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/15 ... 7000728577

That story you found is from a quite disreputable source (it claimed Hillary was dead and a doppelganger was sent to debate Trump for example).

I found it when searching twitter b/c Kismet mentioned Musk was tweeting conspiracy theories, with no links. And, it is also embedded in the link you shared, specifically tweet number 9 from Matt Gertz: https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/15 ... 4yrjXdYTZQ

As an aside....if it turns out true will you then view them as a credible news outlet?

It's not true and that news source is just not credible - stopped clock analogy. BTW, Musk deleted the tweet without any explanation, which is why you cannot find it, other than through a search of others trying to show how Musk is going to twist Twitter to allow unfounded and untrue crap back on the site.

If you want something that is actually true - Paul Pelosi used the excuse to go to the bathroom where his phone was charging and called 911. He could not say much as the perpetrator was just outside, but left the call open and over the next few minutes the dispatchers heard enough to send in the cops (took them 2 minutes to arrive from that point and a total of 6 minutes after Pelosi left the call). -- a Brain is better than a gun.

You can find the recording now online of the 911 call.

Why would he go back to the intruder and not stay in the locked bathroom, with his phone, until the authorities arrived? #WWJHUD

[kramerica.inc]

Musk tweeting about Paul Pelosi conspiracy theories (that it was a gay encounter gone wrong)

GM has paused their adverting with Twitter

Welcome to America where the inmates run the asylum.

Link? I just scrolled through his timeline and see nothing. https://twitter.com/elonmusk

Did some digging and found this: https://web.archive.org/web/20221029193 ... /7191.html

Try this

https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/15 ... 7000728577

That story you found is from a quite disreputable source (it claimed Hillary was dead and a doppelganger was sent to debate Trump for example).

I found it when searching twitter b/c Kismet mentioned Musk was tweeting conspiracy theories, with no links. And, it is also embedded in the link you shared, specifically tweet number 9 from Matt Gertz: https://twitter.com/MattGertz/status/15 ... 4yrjXdYTZQ

As an aside....if it turns out true will you then view them as a credible news outlet?

It's not true and that news source is just not credible - stopped clock analogy. BTW, Musk deleted the tweet without any explanation, which is why you cannot find it, other than through a search of others trying to show how Musk is going to twist Twitter to allow unfounded and untrue crap back on the site.

If you want something that is actually true - Paul Pelosi used the excuse to go to the bathroom where his phone was charging and called 911. He could not say much as the perpetrator was just outside, but left the call open and over the next few minutes the dispatchers heard enough to send in the cops (took them 2 minutes to arrive from that point and a total of 6 minutes after Pelosi left the call). -- a Brain is better than a gun.

You can find the recording now online of the 911 call.

Why would he go back to the intruder and not stay in the locked bathroom, with his phone, until the authorities arrived? #WWJHUD

Did the Pelosis ever turn over the security footage? Seems like that could clear up a lot.

[Kismet]

Feds just announced charges for assault and attempted kidnapping of the Speaker (even though she wasn't home) and assault of a family member of a federal official.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi ... -rcna54802

there is a link to a PDF of the actual affidavit detailing the charges, evidence and mirandized interview so you Sherlocks can stop spitballing here now.

[youthathletics]

So I suppose its all settled, b/c according to Kismet there is an affidavit, we should just question nothing.

I've saw the affidavit and it still does not explain why Pelosi chose not to stay in the bathroom. Furthermore, why would Pelosi go after the guy with the hammer when the friggen police are coming in the very door that he just opened for them.



c. While talking with each other, Pelosi went into a bathroom, where Pelosi grabbed
a phone to call 9-1-1. DEPAPE stated he felt like Pelosi’s actions compelled him
to respond

e. DEPAPE stated that they went downstairs to the front door. The police arrived
and knocked on the door, and Pelosi ran over and opened it. Pelosi grabbed onto
DEPAPE’s hammer, which was in DEPAPE’s hand. At this point in the
interview, DEPAPE repeated that DEPAPE did not plan to surrender and that he
would go “through” Pelosi.

f. DEPAPE stated that he pulled the hammer away from Pelosi and swung the
hammer towards Pelosi. DEPAPE explained that Pelosi’s actions resulted in
Pelosi “taking the punishment instead.”

[RedFromMI]

So I suppose its all settled, b/c according to Kismet there is an affidavit, we should just question nothing.

I've saw the affidavit and it still does not explain why Pelosi chose not to stay in the bathroom. Furthermore, why would Pelosi go after the guy with the hammer when the friggen police are coming in the very door that he just opened for them.



c. While talking with each other, Pelosi went into a bathroom, where Pelosi grabbed
a phone to call 9-1-1. DEPAPE stated he felt like Pelosi’s actions compelled him
to respond

e. DEPAPE stated that they went downstairs to the front door. The police arrived
and knocked on the door, and Pelosi ran over and opened it. Pelosi grabbed onto
DEPAPE’s hammer, which was in DEPAPE’s hand. At this point in the
interview, DEPAPE repeated that DEPAPE did not plan to surrender and that he
would go “through” Pelosi.

f. DEPAPE stated that he pulled the hammer away from Pelosi and swung the
hammer towards Pelosi. DEPAPE explained that Pelosi’s actions resulted in
Pelosi “taking the punishment instead.”

Pelosi probably grabbed at the hammer in a defensive action to keep DePape from swinging it at him. Didn't work. You are assuming that what DePape said was actually what happened instead of DePape excusing why he hit Pelosi.

[youthathletics]

So I suppose its all settled, b/c according to Kismet there is an affidavit, we should just question nothing.

I've saw the affidavit and it still does not explain why Pelosi chose not to stay in the bathroom. Furthermore, why would Pelosi go after the guy with the hammer when the friggen police are coming in the very door that he just opened for them.



c. While talking with each other, Pelosi went into a bathroom, where Pelosi grabbed
a phone to call 9-1-1. DEPAPE stated he felt like Pelosi’s actions compelled him
to respond

e. DEPAPE stated that they went downstairs to the front door. The police arrived
and knocked on the door, and Pelosi ran over and opened it. Pelosi grabbed onto
DEPAPE’s hammer, which was in DEPAPE’s hand. At this point in the
interview, DEPAPE repeated that DEPAPE did not plan to surrender and that he
would go “through” Pelosi.

f. DEPAPE stated that he pulled the hammer away from Pelosi and swung the
hammer towards Pelosi. DEPAPE explained that Pelosi’s actions resulted in
Pelosi “taking the punishment instead.”

Pelosi probably grabbed at the hammer in a defensive action to keep DePape from swinging it at him. Didn't work. You are assuming that what DePape said was actually what happened instead of DePape excusing why he hit Pelosi.

Exactly, but for some reason Kismet said we should stop spitballing since there is a mirandized interview and affidavit. I suppose Kismet believes DePape, strange as it sounds.