PulpExposure wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 3:31 pm
Congrats, Terps. Been a pleasure to watch you all year.
Congrats to Cornell for really playing a tough, physical game and never giving up. You guys have a bright future!
And watching Maryland be gassed? And have a ton of uncharacteristic turnovers? Cornell played great defense, for sure. But this is one of the deepest teams in college. The late semifinal clearly had an effect. Cornell could relax and watch Maryland play - the late game is clearly at disadvantage.
You are nuts. You think a 3 hour time difference 2 days ago made an iota of difference? If the game was yesterday morning, sure. They have had 2 nights sleep, it made zero difference. Zero. MD played more D, their starters have t played many full games, they got worn down. To those who point to more winners coming from the first semi…how many of those were upsets vs the favorite just happened to have played first. It makes no physical difference 2 days later.
Your tears are like PEDs to me
Maryland wins the NCAA and you get the award, just following your posts - as the most ungracious guy on this board. PEDs? I'm sure that's where the roid rage comes from. In a sport where brother plays brother, coaches beat schools that they went to, and all around graciousness and good spirit tops everything, you sure stick out. With so many great posters here, its really jarring to run into guys who hate so much on this board. Joewillie has NEVER put any body or school down, only rah rah for the Red. That's positive, why crap on him?
He was crap@ing on PCowlax, who’s by his own admission kind of a northeast Connecticut Ivy homer.
JoeWillie is the man; he and I suit up next spring for some team, can’t recall now. Too many afternoon beers.
I will however be playing that Cornell golf course this summer!
Lager wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 5:28 pm
Cornell could have EASILY won this game. I don't know how they went into halftime with only 2 goals. They were generating good looks all game with the exception of the third quarter maybe.
… but they didn’t so take your L and bow down to your champions the Maryland terrapins. Don’t be a sore loser
How about you show some class and humility.? Lager isn’t far off. Cornell matched Maryland shot for shot and play for play. It’s no stretch to say Cornell could have won this game. Cornell outshot Maryland and had 24 shots on goal vs 18 for Maryland. GBs were fairly even. Cornell had half as many turnovers. Maryland is getting plenty of respect for a dominant season. But far too many in this thread are making excuses for Maryland and not giving Cornell credit for pushing Maryland to the limit. Too much talk about the late game early game thing when Cornell had to play essentially two games on Saturday and hang around in uniform in the stadium for 9+ hours while Maryland went back to the hotel. Other bs excuses about too much pressure to go undefeated. And this B/C game stuff is nonsense as well. Funny how many teams played badly vs Cornell the past 3 weeks. It’s not a coincidence and after watching the effort Cornell put forth today, it’s not surprising. The ride was relentless and they hustled for 60 minutes.
And any discussion of injuries should mention that Cornell played almost the entire e season without two injured first line middies. Throw in Maryland’s 11 Fifth year seniors.
Congratulations to Maryland, but Cornell gave Maryland all they could handle because they were a well coached, talented, gutty, great team that was peaking at the right time
Lager wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 5:28 pm
Cornell could have EASILY won this game. I don't know how they went into halftime with only 2 goals. They were generating good looks all game with the exception of the third quarter maybe.
… but they didn’t so take your L and bow down to your champions the Maryland terrapins. Don’t be a sore loser
How about you show some class and humility.? Lager isn’t far off. Cornell matched Maryland shot for shot and play for play. It’s no stretch to say Cornell could have won this game. Cornell outshot Maryland and had 24 shots on goal vs 18 for Maryland. GBs were fairly even. Cornell had half as many turnovers. Maryland is getting plenty of respect for a dominant season. But far too many in this thread are making excuses for Maryland and not giving Cornell credit for pushing Maryland to the limit. Too much talk about the late game early game thing when Cornell had essentially to play two games on Saturday and hang around in uniform in the stadium for 9+ hours while Maryland went back to the hotel. Other bs excuses about too much pressure to go undefeated. And this B/C game stuff is nonsense as well. Funny how many teams played badly vs Cornell the past 3 weeks. It’s not a coincidence and after watching the effort Cornell put forth today, it’s not surprising. The ride was relentless and they hustled for 60 minutes.
And any discussion of injuries should mention that Cornell played almost the entire e season without two injured first line middies. Throw in Maryland’s 11 Fifth year seniors.
Congratulations to Maryland, but Cornell gave Maryland all they could handle because they were a well coached, talented, gutty, great team that was peaking at the right time
+1
I sssure you the Terp players respect Cornell after today
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 6:45 pm
by rasheed
Congrats to two fantastic teams. Cornell found a way to elevate while MD showed, yet again, why they were number one for almost the entire season.
Both coaches run classy programs as well and we couldn't have had two finer teams represent college lacrosse on the big stage. Mike, Pat Leahy - there's always next year!!!
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 6:46 pm
by faircornell
rasheed wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 6:45 pm
Congrats to two fantastic teams. Cornell found a way to elevate while MD showed, yet again, why they were number one for almost the entire season.
Both coaches run classy programs as well and we couldn't have had two finer teams represent college lacrosse on the big stage. Mike, Pat Leahy - there's always next year!!!
PulpExposure wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 3:31 pm
Congrats, Terps. Been a pleasure to watch you all year.
Congrats to Cornell for really playing a tough, physical game and never giving up. You guys have a bright future!
And watching Maryland be gassed? And have a ton of uncharacteristic turnovers? Cornell played great defense, for sure. But this is one of the deepest teams in college. The late semifinal clearly had an effect. Cornell could relax and watch Maryland play - the late game is clearly at disadvantage.
You are nuts. You think a 3 hour time difference 2 days ago made an iota of difference? If the game was yesterday morning, sure. They have had 2 nights sleep, it made zero difference. Zero. MD played more D, their starters have t played many full games, they got worn down. To those who point to more winners coming from the first semi…how many of those were upsets vs the favorite just happened to have played first. It makes no physical difference 2 days later.
Your tears are like PEDs to me
Maryland wins the NCAA and you get the award, just following your posts - as the most ungracious guy on this board. PEDs? I'm sure that's where the roid rage comes from. In a sport where brother plays brother, coaches beat schools that they went to, and all around graciousness and good spirit tops everything, you sure stick out. With so many great posters here, its really jarring to run into guys who hate so much on this board. Joewillie has NEVER put any body or school down, only rah rah for the Red. That's positive, why crap on him?
Relax. It’s a game and if your team wins you can talk smack. Sorry I don’t abide by some peoples sanctimonious sportsmanship values.
Also fun to get all the Ivy homers riled up.
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 7:17 pm
by Farfromgeneva
We already knew about the lack of class. Whine and complain when someone presents a positive perspective on the Ivy thread…
masondixonlax
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Could claim all four when MD wins w the other twos success meaningfully impacted by Donville and Bartolo (esp the latter) who wouldn’t have transferred but for league wide rules on 5th graduate students.
Geez gtf over yourselves. You guys didn't invent these kids. They are good players and their identities don't revolve around what Ivy school they went to
PulpExposure wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 3:31 pm
Congrats, Terps. Been a pleasure to watch you all year.
Congrats to Cornell for really playing a tough, physical game and never giving up. You guys have a bright future!
And watching Maryland be gassed? And have a ton of uncharacteristic turnovers? Cornell played great defense, for sure. But this is one of the deepest teams in college. The late semifinal clearly had an effect. Cornell could relax and watch Maryland play - the late game is clearly at disadvantage.
You are nuts. You think a 3 hour time difference 2 days ago made an iota of difference? If the game was yesterday morning, sure. They have had 2 nights sleep, it made zero difference. Zero. MD played more D, their starters have t played many full games, they got worn down. To those who point to more winners coming from the first semi…how many of those were upsets vs the favorite just happened to have played first. It makes no physical difference 2 days later.
Your tears are like PEDs to me
Maryland wins the NCAA and you get the award, just following your posts - as the most ungracious guy on this board. PEDs? I'm sure that's where the roid rage comes from. In a sport where brother plays brother, coaches beat schools that they went to, and all around graciousness and good spirit tops everything, you sure stick out. With so many great posters here, its really jarring to run into guys who hate so much on this board. Joewillie has NEVER put any body or school down, only rah rah for the Red. That's positive, why crap on him?
Yeah JoeWillie is a great dude. And I hate Cornell from basically the end of the season or slope day until after the clock ends on the Hobart-Cornell game each year.
PulpExposure wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 3:31 pm
Congrats, Terps. Been a pleasure to watch you all year.
Congrats to Cornell for really playing a tough, physical game and never giving up. You guys have a bright future!
And watching Maryland be gassed? And have a ton of uncharacteristic turnovers? Cornell played great defense, for sure. But this is one of the deepest teams in college. The late semifinal clearly had an effect. Cornell could relax and watch Maryland play - the late game is clearly at disadvantage.
You are nuts. You think a 3 hour time difference 2 days ago made an iota of difference? If the game was yesterday morning, sure. They have had 2 nights sleep, it made zero difference. Zero. MD played more D, their starters have t played many full games, they got worn down. To those who point to more winners coming from the first semi…how many of those were upsets vs the favorite just happened to have played first. It makes no physical difference 2 days later.
Your tears are like PEDs to me
Maryland wins the NCAA and you get the award, just following your posts - as the most ungracious guy on this board. PEDs? I'm sure that's where the roid rage comes from. In a sport where brother plays brother, coaches beat schools that they went to, and all around graciousness and good spirit tops everything, you sure stick out. With so many great posters here, its really jarring to run into guys who hate so much on this board. Joewillie has NEVER put any body or school down, only rah rah for the Red. That's positive, why crap on him?
Yeah JoeWillie is a great dude. And I hate Cornell from basically the end of the season or slope day until after the clock ends on the Hobart-Cornell game each year.
Thanks FFG and we really appreciate your hatred. Good luck to Hobart and the A-10. Should be a great conference.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 7:38 pm
by pcowlax
As a non-Ivy alum I make a strange Ivy homer. The 3 hours things remains about the dumbest thing I have read on these boards. I certainly never played in D1 championship weekend but played college lax and know well that 3 hours from 2 days ago literally means nothing. What is the limiting principle here oh ignorant sages of human physiology. Would 2 hours still have been the reason for a team physically fading 2 days later? 1? 30 minutes difference in when the games ended? They wore white and Cornell had a dark red. That means Cornell was absorbing more heat. Not a huge difference but perhaps that was the reason for the final margin, right? Every little bit matters, right? MD played a much harder semi-game that took much more out of them. They had a team of players who rarely played 4 quarters this year. And they spent much of the game on defense. A number of MD goals were in transition, they didn’t do much 6v6 and didn’t have many long 6v6 possessions with all of the turnovers. The ball was in the MD D end at least 65% of the game. Their D just wore out in 90+ heat. They held on and won. Great game, great season.
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 7:42 pm
by faircornell
pcowlax wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 7:38 pm
As a non-Ivy alum I make a strange Ivy homer. The 3 hours things remains about the dumbest thing I have read on these boards. I certainly never played in D1 championship weekend but played college lax and know well that 3 hours from 2 days ago literally means nothing. What is the limiting principle here oh ignorant sages of human physiology. Would 2 hours still have been the reason for a team physically fading 2 days later? 1? 30 minutes difference in when the games ended? They wore white and Cornell had a dark red. That means Cornell was absorbing more heat. Not a huge difference but perhaps that was the reason for the final margin, right? Every little bit matters, right? MD played a much harder semi-game that took much more out of them. They had a team of players who rarely played 4 quarters this year. And they spent much of the game on defense. A number of MD goals were in transition, they didn’t do much 6v6 and didn’t have many long 6v6 possessions with all of the turnovers. The ball was in the MD D end at least 65% of the game. Their D just wore out in 90+ heat. They held on and won. Great game, great season.
+1
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 7:55 pm
by middleAgedBear
Are people saying this game was close only because the Terps had less recovery time? That’s silly. I spent a decade racing at a high (even pro) level in an endurance sport. Pretty well versed in recovery. All these guys had PLENTY of recovery.
Anyway, real story here is Cornell played MD better than anyone else would have, and if not for Maryland’s huge defensive (and goalie) effort, big red wins. But Maryland deserves this win. They played under the pressure of expectations. And they executed as a team. Hats off to both teams.
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 8:01 pm
by Farfromgeneva
pcowlax wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 7:38 pm
As a non-Ivy alum I make a strange Ivy homer. The 3 hours things remains about the dumbest thing I have read on these boards. I certainly never played in D1 championship weekend but played college lax and know well that 3 hours from 2 days ago literally means nothing. What is the limiting principle here oh ignorant sages of human physiology. Would 2 hours still have been the reason for a team physically fading 2 days later? 1? 30 minutes difference in when the games ended? They wore white and Cornell had a dark red. That means Cornell was absorbing more heat. Not a huge difference but perhaps that was the reason for the final margin, right? Every little bit matters, right? MD played a much harder semi-game that took much more out of them. They had a team of players who rarely played 4 quarters this year. And they spent much of the game on defense. A number of MD goals were in transition, they didn’t do much 6v6 and didn’t have many long 6v6 possessions with all of the turnovers. The ball was in the MD D end at least 65% of the game. Their D just wore out in 90+ heat. They held on and won. Great game, great season.
No different than the fish one caught, the stock trade, the 75” of snow on the 18mi walk each way to school, etc
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 8:04 pm
by DocBarrister
middleAgedBear wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 7:55 pm
Are people saying this game was close only because the Terps had less recovery time? That’s silly. I spent a decade racing at a high (even pro) level in an endurance sport. Pretty well versed in recovery. All these guys had PLENTY of recovery.
Anyway, real story here is Cornell played MD better than anyone else would have, and if not for Maryland’s huge defensive (and goalie) effort, big red wins. But Maryland deserves this win. They played under the pressure of expectations. And they executed as a team. Hats off to both teams.
I’m sure both teams were fatigued.
But … Both Teams Fatigued = Advantage for Cornell.
Fatigue tends to be an equalizer. Maryland’s turnovers were not only a sure sign of Cornell’s excellent defense, but also Maryland’s shared fatigue with the Big Red.
As good as Cornell was, I think the fatigue of both teams helped to balance things out on the field. If this game were held with a full week’s rest and lots of time for coaching, I think the margin of victory for Maryland would have been much larger.
DocBarrister
Re: Cornell versus Maryland
Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 8:12 pm
by ICGrad
middleAgedBear wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 7:55 pm
Are people saying this game was close only because the Terps had less recovery time? That’s silly. I spent a decade racing at a high (even pro) level in an endurance sport. Pretty well versed in recovery. All these guys had PLENTY of recovery.
Close only because the Terps had less recovery time? Absolutely not. Was it a factor? I'd say yes.
I'm surprised by the second assertion here. I've done a good amount of endurance racing too (though not as a pro). 40 hours recovery between events? I mean, absolutely you can do it. I certainly did. But I felt it, and it impacted performance. That's all we're talking here.
Lacrosse is a high impact sport; recovery is essential.
PulpExposure wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 3:31 pm
Congrats, Terps. Been a pleasure to watch you all year.
Congrats to Cornell for really playing a tough, physical game and never giving up. You guys have a bright future!
And watching Maryland be gassed? And have a ton of uncharacteristic turnovers? Cornell played great defense, for sure. But this is one of the deepest teams in college. The late semifinal clearly had an effect. Cornell could relax and watch Maryland play - the late game is clearly at disadvantage.
You are nuts. You think a 3 hour time difference 2 days ago made an iota of difference? If the game was yesterday morning, sure. They have had 2 nights sleep, it made zero difference. Zero. MD played more D, their starters have t played many full games, they got worn down. To those who point to more winners coming from the first semi…how many of those were upsets vs the favorite just happened to have played first. It makes no physical difference 2 days later.
Your tears are like PEDs to me
Maryland wins the NCAA and you get the award, just following your posts - as the most ungracious guy on this board. PEDs? I'm sure that's where the roid rage comes from. In a sport where brother plays brother, coaches beat schools that they went to, and all around graciousness and good spirit tops everything, you sure stick out. With so many great posters here, its really jarring to run into guys who hate so much on this board. Joewillie has NEVER put any body or school down, only rah rah for the Red. That's positive, why crap on him?
Yeah JoeWillie is a great dude. And I hate Cornell from basically the end of the season or slope day until after the clock ends on the Hobart-Cornell game each year.
Thanks FFG and we really appreciate your hatred. Good luck to Hobart and the A-10. Should be a great conference.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
PulpExposure wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 3:31 pm
Congrats, Terps. Been a pleasure to watch you all year.
Congrats to Cornell for really playing a tough, physical game and never giving up. You guys have a bright future!
And watching Maryland be gassed? And have a ton of uncharacteristic turnovers? Cornell played great defense, for sure. But this is one of the deepest teams in college. The late semifinal clearly had an effect. Cornell could relax and watch Maryland play - the late game is clearly at disadvantage.
You are nuts. You think a 3 hour time difference 2 days ago made an iota of difference? If the game was yesterday morning, sure. They have had 2 nights sleep, it made zero difference. Zero. MD played more D, their starters have t played many full games, they got worn down. To those who point to more winners coming from the first semi…how many of those were upsets vs the favorite just happened to have played first. It makes no physical difference 2 days later.
Your tears are like PEDs to me
Maryland wins the NCAA and you get the award, just following your posts - as the most ungracious guy on this board. PEDs? I'm sure that's where the roid rage comes from. In a sport where brother plays brother, coaches beat schools that they went to, and all around graciousness and good spirit tops everything, you sure stick out. With so many great posters here, its really jarring to run into guys who hate so much on this board. Joewillie has NEVER put any body or school down, only rah rah for the Red. That's positive, why crap on him?
Yeah JoeWillie is a great dude. And I hate Cornell from basically the end of the season or slope day until after the clock ends on the Hobart-Cornell game each year.
Thanks FFG and we really appreciate your hatred. Good luck to Hobart and the A-10. Should be a great conference.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78
The lacrosse world is small.
Tillman played for Richie and Richie was a Terp as a player.
It was a great game played today by both teams.
I loved the energy both sets of fans brought to the stadium.
Tip of the hat to both teams!!
middleAgedBear wrote: ↑Mon May 30, 2022 7:55 pm
Are people saying this game was close only because the Terps had less recovery time? That’s silly. I spent a decade racing at a high (even pro) level in an endurance sport. Pretty well versed in recovery. All these guys had PLENTY of recovery.
Anyway, real story here is Cornell played MD better than anyone else would have, and if not for Maryland’s huge defensive (and goalie) effort, big red wins. But Maryland deserves this win. They played under the pressure of expectations. And they executed as a team. Hats off to both teams.
I’m sure both teams were fatigued.
But … Both Teams Fatigued = Advantage for Cornell.
Fatigue tends to be an equalizer. Maryland’s turnovers were not only a sure sign of Cornell’s excellent defense, but also Maryland’s shared fatigue with the Big Red.
As good as Cornell was, I think the fatigue of both teams helped to balance things out on the field. If this game were held with a full week’s rest and lots of time for coaching, I think the margin of victory for Maryland would have been much larger.
DocBarrister
wild speculation. the last time cornell got extended rest, they hammered rutgers. just like md did on both extended and short rest (transitive property).