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Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 1:34 pm
by flalax22
nrthcrosslax wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 1:23 pm Surprised nobody has mentioned Steele Stanwick yet...
I don’t think we need a novice coach (mens, I know he coached the womens team)

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 1:43 pm
by DocBarrister
flalax22 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 11:50 am
HopFan16 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 10:24 am
Ruffled_Feathers wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 10:19 am
Sagittarius A* wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 8:52 am We were all excited when Jr was hired.

As to who replaces him, lord knows. Plenty of the so far brought up names seem just fine if they have an interest, one particular thing of note for Milliman I suppose is he does presumably have a positive experience working with a fairly young coach in Buczek, So perhaps another young alum like a Crawley could be in the cards. I don't know about actual coaching prowess or the feelings toward the university of some of these more recent Petro grads though. Anybody got a kid at Calvert Hall right now? Whats the word on Tinney's coaching ability? He's already in town. ;)
Tinney and Crawley are both Petro guys through and through and I doubt they'd want to be a part of the new regime.
They wouldn’t without the blessing of the Godfather which I don’t think they would even ask for.
I think Coach Pietramala would encourage any of his former charges to accept any positions that would help further their careers and professional development, no matter how awkward for him. Indeed, I’m sure he would be happy for them.

DocBarrister

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 1:47 pm
by DocBarrister
Sagittarius A* wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 8:52 am
HopFan16 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 8:32 am
Sagittarius A* wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 8:24 am Speculation as to the new OC is pointless right now.
God you are insufferable. No it is not pointless. If it doesn't interest you personally feel free to not post about it
Milliman has his own network of lax buddies etc and it's impossible to predict who he will hire.
We were all excited when Jr was hired.
This looks a lot like scapegoating to me.
A coaching change early in his tenure suggests the coach is under fire.
Spin it any way your want, PM's clock is ticking.
It doesn’t look good. The benching of Epstein didn’t look good either.

Intentional or not … merited or not … this latest development raises a lot of red flags.

Has Coach Milliman issued a press release about the departure? I have not seen one. The program should get one out soon.

DocBarrister

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 2:46 pm
by Homer
Carrying this over from the 2022 thread:
OCanada wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 8:57 am
Homer wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 10:20 pm
Homer wrote: Sun May 08, 2022 10:10 am
OCanada wrote: Sun May 08, 2022 9:01 am

Hopkins should have interviewed several coaches they did not bother to call.
Who should they have called?
Nine days and counting...
OCanada wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 8:38 pm It is not exactly a secret.
Okay, the one final shred of the benefit of the doubt that I was giving you was that maybe you couldn't respond to basic follow-up questions out of respect for persons who'd given you information in confidence.

But if all of this "is not exactly a secret," then why not give details? Why not explain what you're actually talking about, so others can grasp the basis for your claims and respond accordingly?

Well you nailed it for sure. BTW, and for your benefit, i already posted about several coaches they did not interview and one they did. Respond accordingly? Believe it or don’t believe it, the forum lets false assertions slide. I suggest you start asking for receipts when some start asserting as fact things they do not know. Gresham’s Law
The only post of yours that I can find remotely resembling what you claim to have posted is this one from April 1 of this year. This is the entirety of the post:
OCanada wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 11:08 am Hopkins did not interview three former players i know of and as far as i know none. Marr was not interviewed.

Galloway was interviewed and reportedly would have accepted.
Assuming Scott Marr is (a) one of the three former players and (b) someone you think should have gotten an interview, who are the other two? Or were you referring only to non-alums when you said there were coaches Hopkins should've called but didn't? (If so, then your earlier post wasn't on point at all.)

You claim that "as far as you know," Hopkins didn't interview any of its former players. That is flatly, indeed wildly, at odds with what was reported and discussed at the time. On its face, your statement would appear to be a classic case of asserting as fact something one doesn't actually know.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 3:12 pm
by 44WeWantMore
flalax22 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 1:34 pm
nrthcrosslax wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 1:23 pm Surprised nobody has mentioned Steele Stanwick yet...
I don’t think we need a novice coach (mens, I know he coached the womens team)
One of the bright spots this year came against a novice coach whose experience was primarily WLax.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 4:02 pm
by nyjay
flalax22 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 1:34 pm
nrthcrosslax wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 1:23 pm Surprised nobody has mentioned Steele Stanwick yet...
I don’t think we need a novice coach (mens, I know he coached the womens team)
I agree. But while we don't really "need" a novice coach, I tend to believe that we will "get" one.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 4:19 pm
by nrthcrosslax
nyjay wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 4:02 pm
flalax22 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 1:34 pm
nrthcrosslax wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 1:23 pm Surprised nobody has mentioned Steele Stanwick yet...
I don’t think we need a novice coach (mens, I know he coached the womens team)
I agree. But while we don't really "need" a novice coach, I tend to believe that we will "get" one.
I was being a little tongue in cheek given how much that name was tossed around the last time Hopkins was searching for an OC.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 4:28 pm
by MDlaxfan76
nyjay wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 4:02 pm
flalax22 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 1:34 pm
nrthcrosslax wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 1:23 pm Surprised nobody has mentioned Steele Stanwick yet...
I don’t think we need a novice coach (mens, I know he coached the womens team)
I agree. But while we don't really "need" a novice coach, I tend to believe that we will "get" one.
Let's just say that the "novices" at Cornell are doing quite well (!) and they're considerably younger and less experienced than Steele...I'd be surprised if Steele wouldn't be an outstanding choice for this job, though, as I don't know him personally, that's merely an observation that it's likely that he has as good a tactical 'lax intelligence' as may be found out there. His skills on the field were more brain than brawn.

If I were him (and wanted to stay in coaching), I'd definitely jump at this if offered as going the HS route ain't likely to bring you back into the college coaching opportunities...on the other hand, if he wants to teach school or be an AD that's another matter.

But right now, doesn't he have a job in real estate? Maybe left full-time coaching, HS is just for fun?

I don't think 'young' needs to be an issue, just need the right guy able to grow fast.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 4:37 pm
by HillsLax
As I understand things, there could be a new coach as early as next week. No info as to who this might be.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 4:42 pm
by CU77
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 4:28 pm I'd be surprised if Steele wouldn't be an outstanding choice for this job, though, as I don't know him personally, that's merely an observation that it's likely that he has as good a tactical 'lax intelligence' as may be found out there.
That's a largely irrelevant skill for coaching, IMO. Being able to make good split-second decisions on the field, and getting your muscles to carry them out, does not help when you're standing on the sideline. Ask Gary Gait.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 5:00 pm
by HopFan16
DocBarrister wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 1:43 pm
flalax22 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 11:50 am
HopFan16 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 10:24 am
Ruffled_Feathers wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 10:19 am
Sagittarius A* wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 8:52 am We were all excited when Jr was hired.

As to who replaces him, lord knows. Plenty of the so far brought up names seem just fine if they have an interest, one particular thing of note for Milliman I suppose is he does presumably have a positive experience working with a fairly young coach in Buczek, So perhaps another young alum like a Crawley could be in the cards. I don't know about actual coaching prowess or the feelings toward the university of some of these more recent Petro grads though. Anybody got a kid at Calvert Hall right now? Whats the word on Tinney's coaching ability? He's already in town. ;)
Tinney and Crawley are both Petro guys through and through and I doubt they'd want to be a part of the new regime.
They wouldn’t without the blessing of the Godfather which I don’t think they would even ask for.
I think Coach Pietramala would encourage any of his former charges to accept any positions that would help further their careers and professional development, no matter how awkward for him. Indeed, I’m sure he would be happy for them.

DocBarrister
I agree. I don't think Petro would stand in the way of one of his former players coaching here. He'd want the best for them.

If Crawley wants to come and bring attackman Tommy Schelling with him I'd be very interested.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 5:16 pm
by jhu06
-He had a very hard job coming into a program, athletic department, and university in transition replacing a beloved ex superstar who was one of the best offensive recruiters in the country and was faced w/pandemic restrictions which looked awful at the time and look ridiculous now.
-The biggest loser is the professional lacrosse media who for a decade+ has been unwilling and unable to give students, alumni, parents and fans a straight story on the clustermess ongoing at the northwest end of Homewood including this latest situation where a coordinator is out after just two years with several key veterans now in limbo. Like a drunk uncle Quint wasted one game talking about a long island hs hof ceremony, a couple of the espn guys can't even pronounce johns hopkins correctly, edward lee provides hs newspaper level content, and dixon shouldn't be on the broadcasts given how compromised he is by his sons situation as well as his relationships w/current student athletes and coaches. Towson's lacrosse media sid posted during that game how there were several dozen media members credentialed for that game to show the interest in Hopkins-so where the heck has the media coverage been about this struggling offense? The offense looked dreadful for the most part all year and I think the defense would've looked a lot better if the offense had been consistent. This will now hopefully start a final exodus of benson era guys who lacked size, speed, athleticism, and dodging ability and who had grown too comfortable in a program mired in mediocrity. epstein bauer chauvette mcdermott raposo can be the first to go.
-I've done a few posts about all the different position changes, lineup changes, lack of transfers and there's just so much here that needs real reporting because this is now a riddle wrapped in an engima.
Let's start w/the obvious questions
whose decision was this
why was it made
who replaces grant jr
what is pm's offensive vision
what is the new oc s offensive vision
why wasn't the offense overhauled the past two summers
what happens to the current kids and recruits
what does this decision mean about pms longterm future

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 6:06 pm
by DocBarrister
jhu06 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 5:16 pm -He had a very hard job coming into a program, athletic department, and university in transition replacing a beloved ex superstar who was one of the best offensive recruiters in the country and was faced w/pandemic restrictions which looked awful at the time and look ridiculous now.
-The biggest loser is the professional lacrosse media who for a decade+ has been unwilling and unable to give students, alumni, parents and fans a straight story on the clustermess ongoing at the northwest end of Homewood including this latest situation where a coordinator is out after just two years with several key veterans now in limbo. Like a drunk uncle Quint wasted one game talking about a long island hs hof ceremony, a couple of the espn guys can't even pronounce johns hopkins correctly, edward lee provides hs newspaper level content, and dixon shouldn't be on the broadcasts given how compromised he is by his sons situation as well as his relationships w/current student athletes and coaches. Towson's lacrosse media sid posted during that game how there were several dozen media members credentialed for that game to show the interest in Hopkins-so where the heck has the media coverage been about this struggling offense? The offense looked dreadful for the most part all year and I think the defense would've looked a lot better if the offense had been consistent. This will now hopefully start a final exodus of benson era guys who lacked size, speed, athleticism, and dodging ability and who had grown too comfortable in a program mired in mediocrity. epstein bauer chauvette mcdermott raposo can be the first to go.
-I've done a few posts about all the different position changes, lineup changes, lack of transfers and there's just so much here that needs real reporting because this is now a riddle wrapped in an engima.
Let's start w/the obvious questions
whose decision was this
why was it made
who replaces grant jr
what is pm's offensive vision
what is the new oc s offensive vision
why wasn't the offense overhauled the past two summers
what happens to the current kids and recruits
what does this decision mean about pms longterm future
First question: where the heck is the Hopkins press release about this departure?

Has anyone seen it?

DocBarrister :?:

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 6:11 pm
by flalax22
DocBarrister wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 6:06 pm
jhu06 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 5:16 pm -He had a very hard job coming into a program, athletic department, and university in transition replacing a beloved ex superstar who was one of the best offensive recruiters in the country and was faced w/pandemic restrictions which looked awful at the time and look ridiculous now.
-The biggest loser is the professional lacrosse media who for a decade+ has been unwilling and unable to give students, alumni, parents and fans a straight story on the clustermess ongoing at the northwest end of Homewood including this latest situation where a coordinator is out after just two years with several key veterans now in limbo. Like a drunk uncle Quint wasted one game talking about a long island hs hof ceremony, a couple of the espn guys can't even pronounce johns hopkins correctly, edward lee provides hs newspaper level content, and dixon shouldn't be on the broadcasts given how compromised he is by his sons situation as well as his relationships w/current student athletes and coaches. Towson's lacrosse media sid posted during that game how there were several dozen media members credentialed for that game to show the interest in Hopkins-so where the heck has the media coverage been about this struggling offense? The offense looked dreadful for the most part all year and I think the defense would've looked a lot better if the offense had been consistent. This will now hopefully start a final exodus of benson era guys who lacked size, speed, athleticism, and dodging ability and who had grown too comfortable in a program mired in mediocrity. epstein bauer chauvette mcdermott raposo can be the first to go.
-I've done a few posts about all the different position changes, lineup changes, lack of transfers and there's just so much here that needs real reporting because this is now a riddle wrapped in an engima.
Let's start w/the obvious questions
whose decision was this
why was it made
who replaces grant jr
what is pm's offensive vision
what is the new oc s offensive vision
why wasn't the offense overhauled the past two summers
what happens to the current kids and recruits
what does this decision mean about pms longterm future
First question: where the heck is the Hopkins press release about this departure?

Has anyone seen it?

DocBarrister :?:
Ernie is on vacation and Milliman is tucking his kids in. They will get around to it next week.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 6:14 pm
by DocBarrister
flalax22 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 6:11 pm
DocBarrister wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 6:06 pm
jhu06 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 5:16 pm -He had a very hard job coming into a program, athletic department, and university in transition replacing a beloved ex superstar who was one of the best offensive recruiters in the country and was faced w/pandemic restrictions which looked awful at the time and look ridiculous now.
-The biggest loser is the professional lacrosse media who for a decade+ has been unwilling and unable to give students, alumni, parents and fans a straight story on the clustermess ongoing at the northwest end of Homewood including this latest situation where a coordinator is out after just two years with several key veterans now in limbo. Like a drunk uncle Quint wasted one game talking about a long island hs hof ceremony, a couple of the espn guys can't even pronounce johns hopkins correctly, edward lee provides hs newspaper level content, and dixon shouldn't be on the broadcasts given how compromised he is by his sons situation as well as his relationships w/current student athletes and coaches. Towson's lacrosse media sid posted during that game how there were several dozen media members credentialed for that game to show the interest in Hopkins-so where the heck has the media coverage been about this struggling offense? The offense looked dreadful for the most part all year and I think the defense would've looked a lot better if the offense had been consistent. This will now hopefully start a final exodus of benson era guys who lacked size, speed, athleticism, and dodging ability and who had grown too comfortable in a program mired in mediocrity. epstein bauer chauvette mcdermott raposo can be the first to go.
-I've done a few posts about all the different position changes, lineup changes, lack of transfers and there's just so much here that needs real reporting because this is now a riddle wrapped in an engima.
Let's start w/the obvious questions
whose decision was this
why was it made
who replaces grant jr
what is pm's offensive vision
what is the new oc s offensive vision
why wasn't the offense overhauled the past two summers
what happens to the current kids and recruits
what does this decision mean about pms longterm future
First question: where the heck is the Hopkins press release about this departure?

Has anyone seen it?

DocBarrister :?:
Ernie is on vacation and Milliman is tucking his kids in. They will get around to it next week.
So, in all seriousness … they let an entire business day go by without issuing an official press release, even to just thank Coach Grant Jr. for his service and efforts?

:?

That is some weird amateur sh*t.

DocBarrister :roll:

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 6:52 pm
by jhu06
Obviously Hopfan16 was 100 percent wrong that changes were not coming.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 7:02 pm
by HopFan16
jhu06 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 6:52 pm Obviously Hopfan16 was 100 percent wrong that changes were not coming.
what the f*ck are you talking about? please find the post where I said that. the only thing i said that even remotely resembles that was that i said there *shouldn't* be a change at the top (read: Milliman) after two years because of the signal that would send to any other potential head coaches about how they'd be treated. People other than me kept trying to explain why that would be a disaster to you but your infant brain couldn't grasp it and still doesn't

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 7:04 pm
by Sagittarius A*
HopFan16 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 7:02 pm
jhu06 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 6:52 pm Obviously Hopfan16 was 100 percent wrong that changes were not coming.
what the f*ck are you talking about? please find the post where I said that. the only thing i said that even remotely resembles that was that i said there *shouldn't* be a change at the top (read: Milliman) after two years because of the signal that would send to any other potential head coaches about how they'd be treated. People other than me kept trying to explain why that would be a disaster to you but your infant brain couldn't grasp it and still doesn't
So what's the signal to potential OC candidates who might consider the Hopkins' opening?

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 7:10 pm
by HopFan16
Sagittarius A* wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 7:04 pm
HopFan16 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 7:02 pm
jhu06 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 6:52 pm Obviously Hopfan16 was 100 percent wrong that changes were not coming.
what the f*ck are you talking about? please find the post where I said that. the only thing i said that even remotely resembles that was that i said there *shouldn't* be a change at the top (read: Milliman) after two years because of the signal that would send to any other potential head coaches about how they'd be treated. People other than me kept trying to explain why that would be a disaster to you but your infant brain couldn't grasp it and still doesn't
So what's the signal to potential OC candidates who might consider the Hopkins' opening?
Please don't tell me you think an assistant opening is anything like that of a head coach.

There is so much more turnover in the assistant ranks. Guys come and go all the time. They leave for a variety of reasons. And, of course, they get paid a lot less. The thinking behind leaving one assistant gig for another is very different from taking over as the head of the program. I'm sure candidates will inquire as to what the reasons were for Junior's departure.

Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 7:11 pm
by wgdsr
Sagittarius A* wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 7:04 pm
HopFan16 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 7:02 pm
jhu06 wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 6:52 pm Obviously Hopfan16 was 100 percent wrong that changes were not coming.
what the f*ck are you talking about? please find the post where I said that. the only thing i said that even remotely resembles that was that i said there *shouldn't* be a change at the top (read: Milliman) after two years because of the signal that would send to any other potential head coaches about how they'd be treated. People other than me kept trying to explain why that would be a disaster to you but your infant brain couldn't grasp it and still doesn't
So what's the signal to potential OC candidates who might consider the Hopkins' opening?
enjoy the pay bump while it lasts (things def are getting more expensive) and hope milliman's system is successful?