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Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:09 am
by tech37
stupefied wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:02 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 2:01 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:15 am Scanlan moving on is not the surprise that we might think...let me rephrase that: I do not think that Coach T was surprised by this move (btw, I'd bet on 'Cuse picking him up, not Albany, but I have no inside info on this matter, pure speculation).

Here for my deserved applause and recognition that sometimes I know what I am saying...

Where are my crabs, wgdsr and the other guy? Or do you really want the Hounds to play and prove you woefully wrong? I'll let you out of the bet for half a dozen each, but the beer count remains. We will win the PL; we will make the NCAA semi's; and we will beat down the 'Hoos like a broken dishwasher. Let's do this! Onto the RAC, boys!!!!

Anyhoo, Chase and a few others (notably the most important players coming back) did not get along...the argument that the remaining players 'only care about $$' is beyond comical if you know these kids. Chase is quickly going downhill; Desko will have his hands full. Not sure the #22 award will be recalled fondly...(but don't forget: it's me who doesn't know the story here :lol: )
Cuse's locker room a bit more diverse and should be a more comfortable cultural fit for Scanlan but hopefully no donna surfaces as any catering should be to feed stomachs not egos.
Agreed. And I wouldn't be too concerned re how JD handles a star like Scanlan. He's dealt with many mega lax egos over the years.

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:34 am
by Peter Brown
blue angels wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:45 pm
houndace1 wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:19 pm https://lacrossebucket.com/2019/04/25/w ... look-like/

Here's an interesting take for the 2020 season. looks like you have a supporter for the team performance next year PB.
Maybe.........Toomey is a great coach so rule them out at your own risk. However, I would point out this article was written expecting Scanlan to be a major piece, but he has since moved on. If Loyola, gets to the NCAA Quaters this season, Toomey should be named National coach of the year. We shall see......

I'd counter that the article was also written before Chase's 'personality' became more widely known to the outside world, thanks to reporting and his propensity to talk a tad too much...

The rest of your post is a common hot-take but one borne of ignorance of the Hounds. Loyola will be a much stronger team this year (I won't bore the thread with yet another explanation of why and who we have coming in and moving up, and how team chemistry is more important than the individual pieces) with one glaring assumption: our goalie spot needs an asteroid-size hole filled. Let's see if it's Shafer or Teitelbaum.

Charlie will be coaching in Philly on Memorial Day 2020...cash that check today.

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:46 am
by Peter Brown
houndace1 wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:49 pm My point is- why can't we just respect these two programs who are 2 miles away from eachother, who play great lacrosse in the Lacrosse city of the US. Both team have been successful in their own right, and within their own history.


Take no prisoners, Houndace1!

I've heard them say at their candelabra tailgates, in the eloquent yet ironic words of General John Sedgwick, 'they couldn't hit an elephant at this distance'...then we trounce them yet again.

We ride!


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Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:08 am
by luvlaxlife
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Agreed. And I wouldn't be too concerned re how JD handles a star like Scanlan. He's dealt with many mega lax egos over the years.
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Not sure about that. Have some concerns about this player referring to coach as "Desko" this and "Desko" that in his interviews, rather than Coach Desko, Coach, or some similar variation. Trying to imagine what other top coaches would think about being referred to by their last name from incoming players. Is this a culturally and/or generationally acceptable way of referring to your coach, or is it lacking respect?

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:26 am
by Peter Brown
luvlaxlife:

{Agreed. And I wouldn't be too concerned re how JD handles a star like Scanlan. He's dealt with many mega lax egos over the years.}


Not sure about that. Have some concerns about this player referring to coach as "Desko" this and "Desko" that in his interviews, rather than Coach Desko, Coach, or some similar variation. Trying to imagine what other top coaches would think about being referred to by their last name from incoming players. Is this a culturally and/or generationally acceptable way of referring to your coach, or is it lacking respect?


exactly luvlaxlife; I wasn't going to point that out but since you did..........

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:30 am
by blue angels
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:34 am
blue angels wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:45 pm
houndace1 wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:19 pm https://lacrossebucket.com/2019/04/25/w ... look-like/

Here's an interesting take for the 2020 season. looks like you have a supporter for the team performance next year PB.
Maybe.........Toomey is a great coach so rule them out at your own risk. However, I would point out this article was written expecting Scanlan to be a major piece, but he has since moved on. If Loyola, gets to the NCAA Quaters this season, Toomey should be named National coach of the year. We shall see......

I'd counter that the article was also written before Chase's 'personality' became more widely known to the outside world, thanks to reporting and his propensity to talk a tad too much...

The rest of your post is a common hot-take but one borne of ignorance of the Hounds. Loyola will be a much stronger team this year (I won't bore the thread with yet another explanation of why and who we have coming in and moving up, and how team chemistry is more important than the individual pieces) with one glaring assumption: our goalie spot needs an asteroid-size hole filled. Let's see if it's Shafer or Teitelbaum.

Charlie will be coaching in Philly on Memorial Day 2020...cash that check today.
It's true. I don't know a lot about Loyola but Toomey with any talent scares me in a matchup. Regardless, are you really going to insinuate that Scanlan is somehow a bad kid because he didn't share your view of Loyola and went where he was more comfortable? That goes pretty low beyond your regular wink and a nod posts. This I do know. Tiffany knew the kid since he had coached him with the Iroquois and really wanted him at Virginia. So, no, he didn't share your negative view of the kid fitting in with his team. Obviously, Desko had no problem with him either.

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:00 am
by Peter Brown
blue angels wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:30 am
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:34 am
blue angels wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:45 pm
houndace1 wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:19 pm https://lacrossebucket.com/2019/04/25/w ... look-like/

Here's an interesting take for the 2020 season. looks like you have a supporter for the team performance next year PB.
Maybe.........Toomey is a great coach so rule them out at your own risk. However, I would point out this article was written expecting Scanlan to be a major piece, but he has since moved on. If Loyola, gets to the NCAA Quaters this season, Toomey should be named National coach of the year. We shall see......

I'd counter that the article was also written before Chase's 'personality' became more widely known to the outside world, thanks to reporting and his propensity to talk a tad too much...

The rest of your post is a common hot-take but one borne of ignorance of the Hounds. Loyola will be a much stronger team this year (I won't bore the thread with yet another explanation of why and who we have coming in and moving up, and how team chemistry is more important than the individual pieces) with one glaring assumption: our goalie spot needs an asteroid-size hole filled. Let's see if it's Shafer or Teitelbaum.

Charlie will be coaching in Philly on Memorial Day 2020...cash that check today.
It's true. I don't know a lot about Loyola but Toomey with any talent scares me in a matchup. Regardless, are you really going to insinuate that Scanlan is somehow a bad kid because he didn't share your view of Loyola and went where he was more comfortable? That goes pretty low beyond your regular wink and a nod posts. This I do know. Tiffany knew the kid since he had coached him with the Iroquois and really wanted him at Virginia. So, no, he didn't share your negative view of the kid fitting in with his team. Obviously, Desko had no problem with him either.


I think he has some personal development to go and work on, and some coaches often take that challenge as an opportunity, not something to shy from. Coach D and Tiffany are superb people who potentially are the right character coaches for Chase.

But let's also be real: awarding #22 prematurely to anyone who has never even played a minute for you is something I would treat with the utmost care and caution. I hope it works out ('Cuse is my 2nd favorite team!) but I'd be cautious here. These interviews should have revealed some things to you. If they didn't, god bless.

I'd leave it as I stated many weeks ago: 'I hope Chase excels wherever he goes'. And I do.

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:14 am
by OCanada
It is not an uncommon occurrence, hope I am not being repetitive here, for Indian kids to have difficulty with culture when they get away from the Rez and their support networks. They grow up in a very different culture esp as presented by schools like LC or a JHU. Totally alien with no connections to be made. Schools need to recognize that when they accept them and provide for it. I have no knowledge of the specifics here it’s just a general truth. They didn’t go to private schools or come from wealthy families or neighborhoods in most cases.

Anecdote: I have never seen a candelabra at a Hopkins tailgate incidentally. I was at Petro’s HOF installation ceremony. A friend’s wife couldn’t attend so I got her ticket. I was talking with a MD grad HOF player who described his view of JHU as venomous. But one day he had a heart issue and called over to the lax offices and explained he needed surgery ASAP. Calls were made and he got his life saving surgery. He sat at the table with us. Still roots hard against Hop but would do anything to help if he could. That’s the thing I love about the lax community. The mutual support and admiration and willingness to help out

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:15 am
by houndace1
blue angels wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:30 am
Peter Brown wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:34 am
blue angels wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:45 pm
houndace1 wrote: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:19 pm https://lacrossebucket.com/2019/04/25/w ... look-like/

Here's an interesting take for the 2020 season. looks like you have a supporter for the team performance next year PB.
Maybe.........Toomey is a great coach so rule them out at your own risk. However, I would point out this article was written expecting Scanlan to be a major piece, but he has since moved on. If Loyola, gets to the NCAA Quaters this season, Toomey should be named National coach of the year. We shall see......

I'd counter that the article was also written before Chase's 'personality' became more widely known to the outside world, thanks to reporting and his propensity to talk a tad too much...

The rest of your post is a common hot-take but one borne of ignorance of the Hounds. Loyola will be a much stronger team this year (I won't bore the thread with yet another explanation of why and who we have coming in and moving up, and how team chemistry is more important than the individual pieces) with one glaring assumption: our goalie spot needs an asteroid-size hole filled. Let's see if it's Shafer or Teitelbaum.

Charlie will be coaching in Philly on Memorial Day 2020...cash that check today.
It's true. I don't know a lot about Loyola but Toomey with any talent scares me in a matchup. Regardless, are you really going to insinuate that Scanlan is somehow a bad kid because he didn't share your view of Loyola and went where he was more comfortable? That goes pretty low beyond your regular wink and a nod posts. This I do know. Tiffany knew the kid since he had coached him with the Iroquois and really wanted him at Virginia. So, no, he didn't share your negative view of the kid fitting in with his team. Obviously, Desko had no problem with him either.
Except the teams we had with tons of talent ( 2017-2019 comes to mind for me), Unfortunately we lose a regular season game to UVA (except 2019) and Duke all those years. We're simply outmatched in terms of athleticism, maybe even skill. 2017 was a preseason #4-5 and got clapped by a young Duke team. UVA always gives Loyola headaches in the season opener every year. I even thought that the 18 and 19 teams could've made memorial day runs but ran into juggernauts

I really struggle to see possible success for 2020

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:18 am
by stupefied
Expect he'll be a productive player (30/18) but not necessarily a star as built up . #22, not a fan but shouldn't be an issue. Plenty of good players on that team whose full impact isn't necessarily reflected in stats alone. What matters is he'll be one of their better overall offensive players even if not the most impactful. Syracuse had a very good locker room last year but wont have as much senior leadership but assimilating into that environment should be easier than most. This is a fresh start for him, blabber by youngsters on social media can only hint and soundbites by kids and adults alike can be misinterpreted so not reading much into nor Loyola happenings because I can see it not being the right fit for some,.What will count are his personal interactions and attitude with teammates and coaches going forward and early signs are positive as his addition has been received well by them without any resentment which is important. Should be a good fit on field, appears to hustle and lets the game come to him which benefits all given their approach. Sensing that Syracuse is right spot for him and it works out well despite the orange cones being placed on road.

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:30 pm
by Drcthru
What a pleasure to declare Peter Brown a foe and never have to see his absurd homer crap again.

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:19 am
by Peter Brown
Drcthru wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:30 pm What a pleasure to declare Peter Brown a foe and never have to see his absurd homer dump again.

A reciprocal pleasure to name lacrosse programs stronger and/or more enjoyable to watch than Hopkins in the State of Maryland only:

Loyola
Maryland
Towson
Georgetown (ok, not technically the State of Maryland, but historically and all other ways)
UMBC
Mount St. Mary's
Salisbury
Stevenson
Maryland Women's Lacrosse
Calvert Hall College High School
The UA/IL high school teams at Unitas

The only program that seemingly can not put it together is the one program that has always played Hop the toughest, Navy. With a new coach, I have no doubt that the Navy will also be on this list shortly.

Also, all of these schools enjoy a far safer environment than Johns Hopkins and its two block safety zone :lol:

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:46 am
by OCanada
Troll

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:37 am
by thatsmell
I’d add Harford CC to that list too.

No snoozeball played there. These kids play a fast brand of lax and are getting up and down the field. Pretty fun to watch. They beat Onondaga CC this season. Dropping kids into D1 programs:


Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:16 am
by Laxter
OCanada wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:46 amTroll
Not saying PB is right but calling a Loyola fan a “troll” on the Loyola thread is a tad humorous.

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:26 am
by OCanada
Glad you enjoyed the humor. Wanting to affiliate a troll with LC is humorous to me.

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:41 pm
by stupefied
Peter Brown is M.I.A., did he visit the wrong Baltimore bar or JHU doc?

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:47 pm
by molo
I thought political comments were not allowed here. The stupid comment about “two block” safety and Hopkins is about as accurate as its author’s prediction of Loyola’s 2020 prognosis. Nice cheap shot Trumper.

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:02 am
by Peter Brown
stupefied wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:41 pm Peter Brown is M.I.A., did he visit the wrong Baltimore bar or JHU doc?

There's just no lax news to discuss. This is the most excruciating time of the year. I'm here, waiting for someone to spring a surprise piece of news.

Also, molo, I only vote for Dogcatcher since my dogs live in fear of being raided by said Dogcatcher. Hopkins remains awful.

Re: Loyola University Lacrosse 2020

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:08 am
by Peter Brown
Laxter wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 3:16 am
OCanada wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:46 amTroll
Not saying PB is right but calling a Loyola fan a “troll” on the Loyola thread is a tad humorous.

:!:

It's known in the medical profession as 'projection' however, me personally, I'd never stoop to mislabeling a fan of such an august institution of Hopkins as they defend their two-block safety zone with Bloomberg's rent-a-cops. Further, no need to repel them since I enjoy laying down bread crumbs for the Hopkins cult ants before they swirl down the bowl of lacrosse mediocrity.