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% will keep rising probably if more get vaxxed.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:18 pm Don't get vaccinated..... soon only vaccinated people will be dying from COVID!
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/scich ... accinated/
That means its the vaccine.wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:22 pm% will keep rising probably if more get vaxxed.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:18 pm Don't get vaccinated..... soon only vaccinated people will be dying from COVID!
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/scich ... accinated/
this is impossible. i was told we did the worst of all countries throughout the globe.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:23 pm https://www.economist.com/graphic-detai ... ose-to-17m
Yup. If 100% of people were vaxed, then 100% of Covid deaths (while at a very low level) would be among vaxed people.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:18 pm Don't get vaccinated..... soon only vaccinated people will be dying from COVID!
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/scich ... accinated/
wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:14 pmSo, spitballing....Bart wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:06 pmData? or are back to spit balling it?wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:01 pmthere's probably over 20k breakthru deaths.ggait wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 12:50 pmCDC data for September 2021.So, when a Lacrosse coach gets sick, with covid, after being FULLY vaccinated.......it's become a disease of the unimmunized ?
2,400 deaths among vaxed people who got breaktrhough infections.
49,800 among unvaxed people that would have been prevented with a vaccination.
Honest question RRR. Are you an a-hole or just dumb?
document there in first link, i don't know how to copy easily on phone. spells out infections, the hospitalizations they have records for (~50%), and deaths. did this for 4 or 5 states.
washington has a relatively mean-ish vaxx rate and case rate in 2021. unless anyone believes there's something crazy about covid vaxx deaths in the state of washington (20-25% of nation total?), they've simply tracked it. or do other states, and you'll come up with mid teens + to the ~26k washington shows.
plenty of articles on the dysfunction of state reporting on this to cdc. trump's cdc has always been a mess. probably change once biden gets in there.
Personally, I have nothing against spitballing.
Close to 400K deaths since vaccine first became available, which if we assumed your 20k had been vaccinated prior to infection and death that'd mean 380K were among unvaccinated...so maybe 19X of those from breakthroughs if your estimate is right.
Of course, as vaccinations went up, the possibility of a breakthrough at all went up, bigger pool.
But even now, we get a roughly 20X unvaccinated to vaccinated, so presumably a heck of a lot less likely when vaccinations were much lower. On the other hand...Delta.
I went to the site, https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Docume ... Report.pdf
They say they expect to identify 70% more breakthrough infections with this methodology.
They say they identified 59,543 possible breakthrough cases; 543 died. In the same time period, about 4,200 covid deaths. So, instead of 19-20:1, it may be 8-9:1 more likely if unvaccinated than if vaccinated.
Them's good odds for getting vaccinated.
So, spitballing....wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:14 pmgoogle "washington state breakthrough hospitalizations"Bart wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:06 pmData? or are back to spit balling it?wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:01 pmthere's probably over 20k breakthru deaths.ggait wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 12:50 pmCDC data for September 2021.So, when a Lacrosse coach gets sick, with covid, after being FULLY vaccinated.......it's become a disease of the unimmunized ?
2,400 deaths among vaxed people who got breaktrhough infections.
49,800 among unvaxed people that would have been prevented with a vaccination.
Honest question RRR. Are you an a-hole or just dumb?
document there in first link, i don't know how to copy easily on phone. spells out infections, the hospitalizations they have records for (~50%), and deaths. did this for 4 or 5 states.
washington has a relatively mean-ish vaxx rate and case rate in 2021. unless anyone believes there's something crazy about covid vaxx deaths in the state of washington (20-25% of nation total?), they've simply tracked it. or do other states, and you'll come up with mid teens + to the ~26k washington shows.
plenty of articles on the dysfunction of state reporting on this to cdc. trump's cdc has always been a mess. probably change once biden gets in there.
No. Just worst than Sweden.wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:28 pmthis is impossible. i was told we did the worst of all countries throughout the globe.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:23 pm https://www.economist.com/graphic-detai ... ose-to-17m
Yup.Them's good odds for getting vaccinated.
... I don't see their assumptions anywhere. They are laying all the problem off on Asia, and I am guessing China without making a case for why. This will make some people happy, but doesn't make it so.wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:28 pmthis is impossible. i was told we did the worst of all countries throughout the globe.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:23 pm https://www.economist.com/graphic-detai ... ose-to-17m
vaccine helps?wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:28 pmthis is impossible. i was told we did the worst of all countries throughout the globe.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:23 pm https://www.economist.com/graphic-detai ... ose-to-17m
See immediately above.jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:57 pm... I don't see their assumptions anywhere. They are laying all the problem off on Asia, and I am guessing China without making a case for why. This will make some people happy, but doesn't make it so.wgdsr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:28 pmthis is impossible. i was told we did the worst of all countries throughout the globe.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:23 pm https://www.economist.com/graphic-detai ... ose-to-17m
ggait wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:56 pmYup.Them's good odds for getting vaccinated.
In September 2021, 65% of USA folks had at least one shot, 56% fully vaxed.
So the roughly one-third unvaxed accounted for 95% of the deaths. And the two-thirds vaxed were 5%.
And RRR tells me I'm OB by calling it a disease of the unvaxed.
Simlarly, 10% of car passengers don't wear seat belts and those people account for 50% of auto fatalities.
Which means half of all fatalities were wearing seat belts. Guess that proves seat belts don't work!
Thanks….Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:45 pmggait wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:56 pmYup.Them's good odds for getting vaccinated.
In September 2021, 65% of USA folks had at least one shot, 56% fully vaxed.
So the roughly one-third unvaxed accounted for 95% of the deaths. And the two-thirds vaxed were 5%.
And RRR tells me I'm OB by calling it a disease of the unvaxed.
Simlarly, 10% of car passengers don't wear seat belts and those people account for 50% of auto fatalities.
Which means half of all fatalities were wearing seat belts. Guess that proves seat belts don't work!
Man, all those restrictions like outdoor masks and forty vaccine boosters, and Colorado still can’t manage Covid.
Notice you’ve been a bit quiet on your state. Don’t worry, we’re here to let others know.
https://kdvr.com/news/coronavirus/capac ... activated/
Sounds like Thunderdome, everyone for themselves. It’s almost like Covid doesn’t care about masks.
https://www.9news.com/article/news/heal ... 4345c6d464
Fifth highest rate in America. Shouldn’t Coloradans be railing their Governor Polis? Isn’t that how it works? So confused.
Do you also sleep with the lights on?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:48 pmThanks….Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:45 pmggait wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:56 pmYup.Them's good odds for getting vaccinated.
In September 2021, 65% of USA folks had at least one shot, 56% fully vaxed.
So the roughly one-third unvaxed accounted for 95% of the deaths. And the two-thirds vaxed were 5%.
And RRR tells me I'm OB by calling it a disease of the unvaxed.
Simlarly, 10% of car passengers don't wear seat belts and those people account for 50% of auto fatalities.
Which means half of all fatalities were wearing seat belts. Guess that proves seat belts don't work!
Man, all those restrictions like outdoor masks and forty vaccine boosters, and Colorado still can’t manage Covid.
Notice you’ve been a bit quiet on your state. Don’t worry, we’re here to let others know.
https://kdvr.com/news/coronavirus/capac ... activated/
Sounds like Thunderdome, everyone for themselves. It’s almost like Covid doesn’t care about masks.
https://www.9news.com/article/news/heal ... 4345c6d464
Fifth highest rate in America. Shouldn’t Coloradans be railing their Governor Polis? Isn’t that how it works? So confused.
"That means if you are unvaccinated a regular trip to the grocery store, a night out to dinner are more dangerous than they have ever been at any point during this pandemic for you," Polis said. "The delta variant is brutally effective at seeking out the unvaccinated like a laser-guided missile."
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:48 pmThanks….Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:45 pmggait wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:56 pmYup.Them's good odds for getting vaccinated.
In September 2021, 65% of USA folks had at least one shot, 56% fully vaxed.
So the roughly one-third unvaxed accounted for 95% of the deaths. And the two-thirds vaxed were 5%.
And RRR tells me I'm OB by calling it a disease of the unvaxed.
Simlarly, 10% of car passengers don't wear seat belts and those people account for 50% of auto fatalities.
Which means half of all fatalities were wearing seat belts. Guess that proves seat belts don't work!
Man, all those restrictions like outdoor masks and forty vaccine boosters, and Colorado still can’t manage Covid.
Notice you’ve been a bit quiet on your state. Don’t worry, we’re here to let others know.
https://kdvr.com/news/coronavirus/capac ... activated/
Sounds like Thunderdome, everyone for themselves. It’s almost like Covid doesn’t care about masks.
https://www.9news.com/article/news/heal ... 4345c6d464
Fifth highest rate in America. Shouldn’t Coloradans be railing their Governor Polis? Isn’t that how it works? So confused.
"That means if you are unvaccinated a regular trip to the grocery store, a night out to dinner are more dangerous than they have ever been at any point during this pandemic for you," Polis said. "The delta variant is brutally effective at seeking out the unvaccinated like a laser-guided missile."
Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:45 pm Man, all those restrictions like outdoor masks and forty vaccine boosters, and Colorado still can’t manage Covid.
Notice you’ve been a bit quiet on your state. Don’t worry, we’re here to let others know.
https://kdvr.com/news/coronavirus/capac ... activated/
Sounds like Thunderdome, everyone for themselves. It’s almost like Covid doesn’t care about masks.
https://www.9news.com/article/news/heal ... 4345c6d464
Fifth highest rate in America. Shouldn’t Coloradans be railing their Governor Polis? Isn’t that how this works? So confused. I kind of recall some here getting on desantis for zero restrictions. We seem fine now, totally open and al ost at zero rate.
Consistency, I think is the issue.
Pete, dude. As usual, ya got it backwards.Maybe we should move to Sweden.youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:49 pmDo you also sleep with the lights on?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:48 pmThanks….Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:45 pmggait wrote: ↑Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:56 pmYup.Them's good odds for getting vaccinated.
In September 2021, 65% of USA folks had at least one shot, 56% fully vaxed.
So the roughly one-third unvaxed accounted for 95% of the deaths. And the two-thirds vaxed were 5%.
And RRR tells me I'm OB by calling it a disease of the unvaxed.
Simlarly, 10% of car passengers don't wear seat belts and those people account for 50% of auto fatalities.
Which means half of all fatalities were wearing seat belts. Guess that proves seat belts don't work!
Man, all those restrictions like outdoor masks and forty vaccine boosters, and Colorado still can’t manage Covid.
Notice you’ve been a bit quiet on your state. Don’t worry, we’re here to let others know.
https://kdvr.com/news/coronavirus/capac ... activated/
Sounds like Thunderdome, everyone for themselves. It’s almost like Covid doesn’t care about masks.
https://www.9news.com/article/news/heal ... 4345c6d464
Fifth highest rate in America. Shouldn’t Coloradans be railing their Governor Polis? Isn’t that how it works? So confused.
"That means if you are unvaccinated a regular trip to the grocery store, a night out to dinner are more dangerous than they have ever been at any point during this pandemic for you," Polis said. "The delta variant is brutally effective at seeking out the unvaccinated like a laser-guided missile."