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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:55 am
by MDlaxfan76
runrussellrun wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:31 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 5:54 pm :lol: :lol: :lol:
No argument, the Trump Admin did a good job resourcing the Pharma companies, whose scientists did a good job of developing the specific vaccines needed, and thank goodness for the MRNA platform and the scientists who have been working on that, with federal support for many years. It has enormous promise in other areas as well.


Biden's been better, but not perfect. And the Harris and Biden comments during the campaigns about the vaccines were very unhelpful. Mistakes. And because they were mistakes made from a self-serving political view, rather than honest actual mistakes, I think they deserve condemnation. Agree.....so go ahead....CONDEMN them ! Just can't bring yourself to do it tho........odd
Cute......regarding the mRNA. Johnson & Johnson,.....like Moderna's.....still EMERGENCY approval.....but, the j&J vaxx does not use this "new" way.

Do you think you can even begin to break down the USA population as to whom got which vaccination.........and IS your opinion on the "old" vaxx tech that J and J employed.....as in, do you trust their numbers and so on ?

Does pfizer have an advertizing budget? (asking for a friend ) :roll:

.....get you booster yet?
sheesh, why do I bother responding RRR?
Go ahead, rant away...it's just flailing around, but ok.

No, I'm not yet eligible for the booster, but will do so as soon as I am. I'm past the 6 months for Moderna, but a year away from being 65 and I don't have the medical risk factors...I could "qualify" by saying I'm often in healthcare or educational settings, and that's a bit of a stretch. But I'm planning to do it before going to Florida where both virus prevalence is higher and I'll be interacting with many more people whose vulnerability is higher than my own.

J&J has, what, a 65% effectiveness, whereas the MRNA platform vaccines have 90%? and J&J has a sustained benefit for just a couple of months, whereas the MRNA lasts at least twice as long before reduction? Makes a real big difference, which is why they've recommended using the MRNA shots as boosters to J&J after a couple of months.

The MRNA tech is really quite amazing, the result of decades of genetic work.
It has really, really important potential in other diseases as well.

If you don't know what you're flailing on about, you really shouldn't rant.

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:01 am
by runrussellrun
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:55 am
runrussellrun wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:31 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 5:54 pm :lol: :lol: :lol:
No argument, the Trump Admin did a good job resourcing the Pharma companies, whose scientists did a good job of developing the specific vaccines needed, and thank goodness for the MRNA platform and the scientists who have been working on that, with federal support for many years. It has enormous promise in other areas as well.


Biden's been better, but not perfect. And the Harris and Biden comments during the campaigns about the vaccines were very unhelpful. Mistakes. And because they were mistakes made from a self-serving political view, rather than honest actual mistakes, I think they deserve condemnation. Agree.....so go ahead....CONDEMN them ! Just can't bring yourself to do it tho........odd
Cute......regarding the mRNA. Johnson & Johnson,.....like Moderna's.....still EMERGENCY approval.....but, the j&J vaxx does not use this "new" way.

Do you think you can even begin to break down the USA population as to whom got which vaccination.........and IS your opinion on the "old" vaxx tech that J and J employed.....as in, do you trust their numbers and so on ?

Does pfizer have an advertizing budget? (asking for a friend ) :roll:

.....get you booster yet?
sheesh, why do I bother responding RRR?
Go ahead, rant away...it's just flailing around, but ok.

No, I'm not yet eligible for the booster, but will do so as soon as I am. I'm past the 6 months for Moderna, but a year away from being 65 and I don't have the medical risk factors...I could "qualify" by saying I'm often in healthcare or educational settings, and that's a bit of a stretch. But I'm planning to do it before going to Florida where both virus prevalence is higher and I'll be interacting with many more people whose vulnerability is higher than my own.

J&J has, what, a 65% effectiveness, whereas the MRNA platform vaccines have 90%? and J&J has a sustained benefit for just a couple of months, whereas the MRNA lasts at least twice as long before reduction? Makes a real big difference, which is why they've recommended using the MRNA shots as boosters to J&J after a couple of months.

The MRNA tech is really quite amazing, the result of decades of genetic work.
It has really, really important potential in other diseases as well.

If you don't know what you're flailing on about, you really shouldn't rant.
Stop projecting......you clearly just wrote that you have zero idea on any of the vaxx's

1. effectiveness

and

b. symptomatic infection for those FULLY vaccinated with either mRNA


Provide a government source for you statement about Florida.....not infotainment.....but where you get off making fear porn statments with NEVER any backup......



Come back with what I asked about............how many FULLY vaccinated people are getting covid......bad? Like Janine Tucker? Scary disease.....but Joe Biden is letting UNvaccinated people into our country. Facts matter.......

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:02 am
by Bart
runrussellrun wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:40 am
Yale :lol:

These the same clowns the the Connecticutt Attorney General went after for fraud and other shiite, especially regarding ANOTHER vaccine (lyme ) ;)

"likely" :lol: :lol: :lol:

How did a fully vaccinated person GET covid..........if the vaccine works ?

stop calling it a vaccine.....it is NOT.

everyone squawking about "required" vaxx's for this and that........when IS the last tyme any of you got a small pox or MMR "vaccine" ?

exactly .

flu shot......covid shot.....same thing.....

This is NOT a vaccine.......stop calling it such.
How is it not a vaccine?

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:05 am
by MDlaxfan76
vac·cine

noun
noun: vaccine; plural noun: vaccines
a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.
"every year the flu vaccine is modified to deal with new strains of the virus"

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:18 am
by runrussellrun
Bart wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:02 am
runrussellrun wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:40 am
Yale :lol:

These the same clowns the the Connecticutt Attorney General went after for fraud and other shiite, especially regarding ANOTHER vaccine (lyme ) ;)

"likely" :lol: :lol: :lol:

How did a fully vaccinated person GET covid..........if the vaccine works ?

stop calling it a vaccine.....it is NOT.

everyone squawking about "required" vaxx's for this and that........when IS the last tyme any of you got a small pox or MMR "vaccine" ?

exactly .

flu shot......covid shot.....same thing.....

This is NOT a vaccine.......stop calling it such.
How is it not a vaccine?
Same as those that are covid survivors are mouth breathers and natural immunity is a hoax and Qnon conspiracty theory......just take the vaxx. Clearly, it works. ........likely that probably possible future potential limited ....

we just don't have the TECH to track effacasy of these vaxx's.......but follow me on instaToc or twatter land.......

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:24 am
by runrussellrun
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:05 am vac·cine

noun
noun: vaccine; plural noun: vaccines
a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.
"every year the flu vaccine is modified to deal with new strains of the virus"
Interesting: where can we read about the "new strains" modification, and where they are getting the variant "samples" from ?

Are vaccines profitable for anyone? ;)

What scientific basis do you have for calling me, and other covid symptomatic survivors, mouth breathers when we have EXACTLY that......bodies that were
stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity
we gonna continue to deny science,..........geez.

talk about lunatics....

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:24 am
by MDlaxfan76
Bart wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:02 am
runrussellrun wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:40 am
Yale :lol:

These the same clowns the the Connecticutt Attorney General went after for fraud and other shiite, especially regarding ANOTHER vaccine (lyme ) ;)

"likely" :lol: :lol: :lol:

How did a fully vaccinated person GET covid..........if the vaccine works ?

stop calling it a vaccine.....it is NOT.

everyone squawking about "required" vaxx's for this and that........when IS the last tyme any of you got a small pox or MMR "vaccine" ?

exactly .

flu shot......covid shot.....same thing.....

This is NOT a vaccine.......stop calling it such.
How is it not a vaccine?
You didn't expect a serious, cogent, much less polite, answer did you? ;)

Putting him back on ignore for awhile.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:26 am
by youthathletics
runrussellrun wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:18 am
Bart wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:02 am
runrussellrun wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:40 am
Yale :lol:

These the same clowns the the Connecticutt Attorney General went after for fraud and other shiite, especially regarding ANOTHER vaccine (lyme ) ;)

"likely" :lol: :lol: :lol:

How did a fully vaccinated person GET covid..........if the vaccine works ?

stop calling it a vaccine.....it is NOT.

everyone squawking about "required" vaxx's for this and that........when IS the last tyme any of you got a small pox or MMR "vaccine" ?

exactly .

flu shot......covid shot.....same thing.....

This is NOT a vaccine.......stop calling it such.
How is it not a vaccine?
Same as those that are covid survivors are mouth breathers and natural immunity is a hoax and Qnon conspiracty theory......just take the vaxx. Clearly, it works. ........likely that probably possible future potential limited ....

we just don't have the TECH to track effacasy of these vaxx's.......but follow me on instaToc or twatter land.......
The definition of vaccine has recently been changed....look it up.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:33 am
by runrussellrun
youthathletics wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:26 am
runrussellrun wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:18 am
Bart wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:02 am
runrussellrun wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:40 am
Yale :lol:

These the same clowns the the Connecticutt Attorney General went after for fraud and other shiite, especially regarding ANOTHER vaccine (lyme ) ;)

"likely" :lol: :lol: :lol:

How did a fully vaccinated person GET covid..........if the vaccine works ?

stop calling it a vaccine.....it is NOT.

everyone squawking about "required" vaxx's for this and that........when IS the last tyme any of you got a small pox or MMR "vaccine" ?

exactly .

flu shot......covid shot.....same thing.....

This is NOT a vaccine.......stop calling it such.
How is it not a vaccine?
Same as those that are covid survivors are mouth breathers and natural immunity is a hoax and Qnon conspiracty theory......just take the vaxx. Clearly, it works. ........likely that probably possible future potential limited ....

we just don't have the TECH to track effacasy of these vaxx's.......but follow me on instaToc or twatter land.......
The definition of vaccine has recently been changed....look it up.
Kind of like "sodomy"

had NO idea that Monica Lewinsky performed an act of "sodomy" on POTUSA Bill Clinton.....because the hateful narrative depicted the victim in Loundon CTY........we know the rest.

sodomy means anal....not oral......

yet....the "online" definition of sodomy is like "vaccine" ..

Partners Health (Harvard/boston) has plenty of FLU shot exceptions..........lots of Haitians.....carry on....what could go wrong with TRUMP's emergency approved vaccine. Does wallstreet sell Moderna or Pfizer financial investment products?

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:34 am
by MDlaxfan76
Very good article related to this thread and so much more:

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/3 ... ood%20Dive

Right up my alley.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:36 am
by Typical Lax Dad
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:34 am Very good article related to this thread and so much more:

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/3 ... ood%20Dive

Right up my alley.
Thanks….will give it a read…..Michelle Obama can’t tell
me what to feed my kids.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:41 am
by runrussellrun
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:34 am Very good article related to this thread and so much more:

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/3 ... ood%20Dive

Right up my alley.
Full of nonsense, declaratory falsehoods with zero footnotes, citations, etc. Like this nonsense:

Research shows that once someone has obesity, there are almost no dietary or exercise interventions that are successful at reversing the disease over the long term and many people lack access to more aggressive treatments like drugs and bariatric surgery. Humans, it turns out, are largely hardwired to keep weight on once they gain it.

Ummm.... "drugs" ???????

Yeah.....no one ever loses weight....without access to DRUGS.


right up your alley, indeed.......

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:07 pm
by runrussellrun
runrussellrun wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:41 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:34 am Very good article related to this thread and so much more:

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/3 ... ood%20Dive

Right up my alley.
Full of nonsense, declaratory falsehoods with zero footnotes, citations, etc. Like this nonsense:

Research shows that once someone has obesity, there are almost no dietary or exercise interventions that are successful at reversing the disease over the long term and many people lack access to more aggressive treatments like drugs and bariatric surgery. Humans, it turns out, are largely hardwired to keep weight on once they gain it.

Ummm.... "drugs" ???????

Yeah.....no one ever loses weight....without access to DRUGS.


right up your alley, indeed.......
YES>.......the Government needs to control what people eat......they must.

of course.....THIS person is going to change this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgfumenJbXE


"....I like it better than anything else ...." "just wonder how I would be without it (ice cream )

chocolate/ ice cream, candy..........she doesn't look obese. Nancy has always been attractive and in shape. Congress, like insider trading, will be immune from authoritative food control, like mdlaxfan wants?

geez....let people live already.........sad that the covid only killed the poor this go around.........little to no assets changed hands with all these extra deaths.....well, at least not with the covid victims financial situation

What is the percentage of US deaths and those that were on govt. assistance ? Shirley, this data will be easy to find on the awesomer internet. :lol:

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:09 pm
by Bart
runrussellrun wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:18 am
Bart wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:02 am
runrussellrun wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:40 am
Yale :lol:

These the same clowns the the Connecticutt Attorney General went after for fraud and other shiite, especially regarding ANOTHER vaccine (lyme ) ;)

"likely" :lol: :lol: :lol:

How did a fully vaccinated person GET covid..........if the vaccine works ?

stop calling it a vaccine.....it is NOT.

everyone squawking about "required" vaxx's for this and that........when IS the last tyme any of you got a small pox or MMR "vaccine" ?

exactly .

flu shot......covid shot.....same thing.....

This is NOT a vaccine.......stop calling it such.
How is it not a vaccine?
Same as those that are covid survivors are mouth breathers and natural immunity is a hoax and Qnon conspiracty theory......just take the vaxx. Clearly, it works. ........likely that probably possible future potential limited ....

we just don't have the TECH to track effacasy of these vaxx's.......but follow me on instaToc or twatter land.......
huh?

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:14 pm
by runrussellrun
Bart wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:09 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:18 am
Bart wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:02 am
runrussellrun wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:40 am
Yale :lol:

These the same clowns the the Connecticutt Attorney General went after for fraud and other shiite, especially regarding ANOTHER vaccine (lyme ) ;)

"likely" :lol: :lol: :lol:

How did a fully vaccinated person GET covid..........if the vaccine works ?

stop calling it a vaccine.....it is NOT.

everyone squawking about "required" vaxx's for this and that........when IS the last tyme any of you got a small pox or MMR "vaccine" ?

exactly .

flu shot......covid shot.....same thing.....

This is NOT a vaccine.......stop calling it such.
How is it not a vaccine?
Same as those that are covid survivors are mouth breathers and natural immunity is a hoax and Qnon conspiracty theory......just take the vaxx. Clearly, it works. ........likely that probably possible future potential limited ....

we just don't have the TECH to track effacasy of these vaxx's.......but follow me on instaToc or twatter land.......
huh?
Sick of people ignoring the science.

symtomatic covid lives matter.........natural immunity is a Qnon conspiracy. .......we don't matter. shut up and TAKE the vaxx. yup, trumps emergency vaxx, with NO ability to take legal action if things, ummm......happen.

who, exactly, are the mouth breathers, again :!: :?:

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:26 pm
by runrussellrun
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:24 am
Bart wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:02 am
runrussellrun wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:40 am
Yale :lol:

These the same clowns the the Connecticutt Attorney General went after for fraud and other shiite, especially regarding ANOTHER vaccine (lyme ) ;)

"likely" :lol: :lol: :lol:

How did a fully vaccinated person GET covid..........if the vaccine works ?

stop calling it a vaccine.....it is NOT.

everyone squawking about "required" vaxx's for this and that........when IS the last tyme any of you got a small pox or MMR "vaccine" ?

exactly .

flu shot......covid shot.....same thing.....

This is NOT a vaccine.......stop calling it such.
How is it not a vaccine?
You didn't expect a serious, cogent, much less polite, answer did you? ;)

Putting him back on ignore for awhile.
You are a gross person, conflating responses to suit your own insecurities . What part of my response to BART was "impolite" ?

Your bizzare, constant, public rants about some "ignore" function ,as if you are superior in any possible way. Obvious you are classless, while thinking you have some.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:51 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Bart wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:09 pm
runrussellrun wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:18 am
Bart wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:02 am
runrussellrun wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:40 am
Yale :lol:

These the same clowns the the Connecticutt Attorney General went after for fraud and other shiite, especially regarding ANOTHER vaccine (lyme ) ;)

"likely" :lol: :lol: :lol:

How did a fully vaccinated person GET covid..........if the vaccine works ?

stop calling it a vaccine.....it is NOT.

everyone squawking about "required" vaxx's for this and that........when IS the last tyme any of you got a small pox or MMR "vaccine" ?

exactly .

flu shot......covid shot.....same thing.....

This is NOT a vaccine.......stop calling it such.
How is it not a vaccine?
Same as those that are covid survivors are mouth breathers and natural immunity is a hoax and Qnon conspiracty theory......just take the vaxx. Clearly, it works. ........likely that probably possible future potential limited ....

we just don't have the TECH to track effacasy of these vaxx's.......but follow me on instaToc or twatter land.......
huh?
Yep

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:52 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:36 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:34 am Very good article related to this thread and so much more:

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/3 ... ood%20Dive

Right up my alley.
Thanks….will give it a read…..Michelle Obama can’t tell
me what to feed my kids.
I just took my son on a bank run today with me and then we had Which Wich where I proceeded to eat an absurdly large Italian style sandwich while giving him PB&J and a strawberry milkshake so we are screwed.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 1:35 pm
by jhu72
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:34 am Very good article related to this thread and so much more:

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/3 ... ood%20Dive

Right up my alley.
... its not like the medical profession has not advertised the fact.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 3:20 pm
by MDlaxfan76
jhu72 wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 1:35 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:34 am Very good article related to this thread and so much more:

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/3 ... ood%20Dive

Right up my alley.
... its not like the medical profession has not advertised the fact.
Actually...most doctors were never trained to understand nutrition's importance, much less what to do about it. Almost zero understanding of the behavioral aspects, much less the actual dietary changes that are necessary dependent upon various other risk factors.

And those who do understand the stupidity of how we have let our eating culture be shaped for profit, are only reaching a subset of the population.

The good news is that this is getting through to an increasing number, but man we're a long way from actually being serious beyond the individual decision level. And individual decisions are really hard (sugar, fat, salt) under impulse conditions, which is how we've engineered our society.