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HopFan16 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:40 pm This wasn't the difference in the game, but I thought the zebras were supposed to be emphasizing hits to the head this year? Peshko took a crosscheck to the head/neck on the crease goal that was waved off. I doubt we'd have scored on the man-up given how that unit looked today but if you're going to go out of your way in the offseason to tell people you're taking these hits more seriously, then maybe make this call. In slow-mo it looks like he was pushed in the back too, but to me that was less egregious than the crosscheck to the dome. Twitter sure seems to think that was a goal. I'd say we should let Twitter ref the games instead but that probably wouldn't work out for us most of the time.

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Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:36 pm Quint mentioned it was a short 45 minute “workout”. I took it to mean a cool down routine. Could have very easily been 30 minutes of cool and a stretch. He also mentioned nutritionist and specialists. I highly doubt Hopkins is going through a strenuous workout post game. Good game tonight. They will be fine.

Exactly. Anyone who has ever played a sport competitively knows that this is completely normal.

Normal for pro sports that don’t practice two hours each day sure. Normal for college kids not really. These guys get lots of cardio and daily yoga/stretching. If this was part of the regular routine for this team fine but it’s not and that’s why it was and is noteworthy. This was an over zealous coach who decided he wanted to send a message after a big win that more work was needed. One small problem. He didn’t factor in Tuesdays game and the kids has tanks.

If it’s so normal were they in the gym last night? I asked around and they were not.

I viewed cheerful commentary yesterday. This morning I see a return to misery.

notentitled wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:31 am I viewed cheerful commentary yesterday. This morning I see a return to misery.

this was a winnable game that got away. in the past these have been "someone should lose their job" blowouts. big difference.

Hopfan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:02 am Any news on Callahan, who only took 1 FO? Only 21 played (not including Callahan), fewest in 3 games. Only obvious healthy scratch was Todaro, who played briefly vs GU.

Dunn matched up better stylistically against UNC's guy. They're more athletic scrappers whereas Callahan is a straightforward clamper. Against similar technicians, Callahan tends to have the advantage, but against guys who are able to turn it into more of a GB battle, Dunn is the better option. I don't know a ton about Loyola's FOGOs now that Savio has finally graduated but I would probably expect to see more of Callahan on Saturday.

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:34 pm

nyjay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:57 pm

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:41 pm
Quint’s one of the best goalies of all time.

Why isn’t that mentioned more around here?

DocBarrister

Absolutely true - he was awesome and a lot of fun to watch. Little dude and unbelievably quick with great stick skills and a huge chip on his shoulder. Had an awesome D in front of him too, DP, James DeTo, Voelker, etc. He also deserves an enormous amount of credit for creating the media career for himself that he has. No one can doubt his work ethic either. He is a unique personality though.

All true.

Quint K … two-time Kelly Award winner, four-time AA (including twice first team AA), two national title games, one national championship, 0.629 career save percentage … how is Quint not in the National Lacrosse Hall of Fame after 30 years?

He was pretty active around the net, intercepting passes and causing turnovers.

His journalistic career is really an extension of his playing excellence.

I get credit for taking him to one of his freshman orientation events.

DocBarrister

He was truly a great goalie. He won the NC as a freshman in 87. That team was .500 before he took over in goal and he led them to the finish line.
An by the way, for all those "lax experts" out there, lol, when asked why Marcille is playing so well this year, Quint credited volunteer assistant Brian Kelly, who warms him up before games. Thought I might mention that for the know-it-alls on here who think goalie warmups are a running joke.

DocBarrister wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 12:02 am

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:05 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:36 pm

wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:05 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:50 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:15 pm

a fan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:56 pm Wait to you hear about the Final Four, where you have to play for all the marbles on two day's rest....or to help with the math, 3 games in 9 days. Against the best teams in D1.

Seem to remember Hopkins players faring quite well with the 3 games in 9 days format.

how dare you . Quint even said the same thing in the early portion of the game. And how in the hell did anyone know Loyola would beat UMD after a crappy 22’ season.

Hopfan16 makes a valuable argument. Scheduling teams is tough, especially with conference games locked in. You often take what you can get, and it is often a 2-year deal.

I think it’s the bands fault, when the players don’t hear them after goals, it creates stress on the field and the play tighter.

Or maybe it's just that Milliman knows a mess more about the schedule and his team than we do.

Well, except Doc, naturally.

i'm not even sure how all these basketball teams are playing every week.

I just spit out my damned bourbon.

Don't show Doc how many games Hopkins men's soccer plays a year....he might lose it.

I think soccer is a bit less of an intense sport overall because you don’t have the same kind of hitting as you do in lacrosse. There’s a reason lacrosse players wear helmets and pads while soccer players do not.

Still, JHU soccer had 17 regular season games while Hopkins lax has 15. Comparable ….

https://hopkinssports.com/sports/mens-s ... edule/2022

DocBarrister

My son played both sports competitively…..soccer required far more physical exertion. Far more consistent contact and movement over 90 minutes of soccer.

flalax22 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:57 am

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:40 pm This wasn't the difference in the game, but I thought the zebras were supposed to be emphasizing hits to the head this year? Peshko took a crosscheck to the head/neck on the crease goal that was waved off. I doubt we'd have scored on the man-up given how that unit looked today but if you're going to go out of your way in the offseason to tell people you're taking these hits more seriously, then maybe make this call. In slow-mo it looks like he was pushed in the back too, but to me that was less egregious than the crosscheck to the dome. Twitter sure seems to think that was a goal. I'd say we should let Twitter ref the games instead but that probably wouldn't work out for us most of the time.

https://twitter.com/LacrosseNetwork/sta ... 4220214272

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:36 pm Quint mentioned it was a short 45 minute “workout”. I took it to mean a cool down routine. Could have very easily been 30 minutes of cool and a stretch. He also mentioned nutritionist and specialists. I highly doubt Hopkins is going through a strenuous workout post game. Good game tonight. They will be fine.

Exactly. Anyone who has ever played a sport competitively knows that this is completely normal.

Normal for pro sports that don’t practice two hours each day sure. Normal for college kids not really. These guys get lots of cardio and daily yoga/stretching. If this was part of the regular routine for this team fine but it’s not and that’s why it was and is noteworthy. This was an over zealous coach who decided he wanted to send a message after a big win that more work was needed. One small problem. He didn’t factor in Tuesdays game and the kids has tanks.

If it’s so normal were they in the gym last night? I asked around and they were not.

It really is normal for D1 athletes. Quint's exact words were "instead of going to the tailgate for Natty Bohs, they did a light workout for 40 minutes." It was said in the context of the team putting a bigger emphasis on nutrition, strength & conditioning, sleep, etc. this year. Jay Dyer handles all that and I doubt he'd have allowed anything that would have messed with their recovery. In fact the "workout" — whatever it was — was very likely done *in service* or as part of recovery. If they didn't do that yesterday I'm sure it was because it was a Tuesday night as opposed to a Saturday afternoon. Making them stay later on a school night *would* have been overzealous but it doesn't sound like they did that.

It shouldn't be misery. UNC has alot of athletes that give Hopkins problems. You can't win very many games in this era taking 32 shots. Even if you shoot 30% you're barely getting to 10. Hate to say it but face-offs made a difference in the first half. Even with Marcille playing well and the settled UNC offense out of sorts - the possession differential contributed to Hopkins getting tired later and not extending the lead that they had. They will not beat Carolina until they figure out how to shrink the shot differential.

I can buy both sides of the scheduling argument - while they are professional athletes - NHL teams play many times back to back and there can't be many more sports brutal than high level hockey. But I don't necessarily buy into the need of these games being have to haves. If UNC and UVA are constrained by their scheduling - maybe you don't play - or you give up Georgetown or do something. Maybe shrink the schedule by one game so this midweek thing only happens once. I still see the benefit of having games where everyone plays - or you hope they do. We've clearly seen 24/23 and now 21 in the first 3 games?? Even with a couple starters out - what game is going to allow you to put 35-45 kids out there? That to me is a bigger issue - these 23 or so kids are going to get worn down over the entire season not just one week.

Need to win face-offs and take care of the ball against the Hounds - if you don't and they generate more shots and have more possessions - 2-2.

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:52 am

flalax22 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 5:57 am

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:40 pm This wasn't the difference in the game, but I thought the zebras were supposed to be emphasizing hits to the head this year? Peshko took a crosscheck to the head/neck on the crease goal that was waved off. I doubt we'd have scored on the man-up given how that unit looked today but if you're going to go out of your way in the offseason to tell people you're taking these hits more seriously, then maybe make this call. In slow-mo it looks like he was pushed in the back too, but to me that was less egregious than the crosscheck to the dome. Twitter sure seems to think that was a goal. I'd say we should let Twitter ref the games instead but that probably wouldn't work out for us most of the time.

https://twitter.com/LacrosseNetwork/sta ... 4220214272

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:36 pm Quint mentioned it was a short 45 minute “workout”. I took it to mean a cool down routine. Could have very easily been 30 minutes of cool and a stretch. He also mentioned nutritionist and specialists. I highly doubt Hopkins is going through a strenuous workout post game. Good game tonight. They will be fine.

Exactly. Anyone who has ever played a sport competitively knows that this is completely normal.

Normal for pro sports that don’t practice two hours each day sure. Normal for college kids not really. These guys get lots of cardio and daily yoga/stretching. If this was part of the regular routine for this team fine but it’s not and that’s why it was and is noteworthy. This was an over zealous coach who decided he wanted to send a message after a big win that more work was needed. One small problem. He didn’t factor in Tuesdays game and the kids has tanks.

If it’s so normal were they in the gym last night? I asked around and they were not.

It really is normal for D1 athletes. Quint's exact words were "instead of going to the tailgate for Natty Bohs, they did a light workout for 40 minutes." It was said in the context of the team putting a bigger emphasis on nutrition, strength & conditioning, sleep, etc. this year. Jay Dyer handles all that and I doubt he'd have allowed anything that would have messed with their recovery. In fact the "workout" — whatever it was — was very likely done *in service* or as part of recovery. If they didn't do that yesterday I'm sure it was because it was a Tuesday night as opposed to a Saturday afternoon. Making them stay later on a school night *would* have been overzealous but it doesn't sound like they did that.

The inference is that poundibg post game beers is better that a 40 minute cool down and stretch. My son’s YOUTH soccer club had 20 minute post game sessions that parents hated because we wanted to get on the road. A big deal was a college lax coach took his kids through a full practice after arriving back on campus past midnight after a road loss. It contributed to his firing.

notentitled wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:31 am I viewed cheerful commentary yesterday. This morning I see a return to misery.

Not misery for me just disappointed they ran out of gas in a completely winnable game. These challenges will remain going forward with the Tuesday night games.

Hop kept the playing time limited to few. That may have been a mistake.

jhu06 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:38 am

notentitled wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:31 am I viewed cheerful commentary yesterday. This morning I see a return to misery.

this was a winnable game that got away. in the past these have been "someone should lose their job" blowouts. big difference.

Quint I think had it right...your boys ran out of gas.

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:35 pm

steel_hop wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:19 pm I didn't see the other 2 games

That's all you needed to say. Thanks for the input

You right. I don't make Hopkins lacrosse my job. I actually have a life and do other things in it. Though apparently it is your job to defend all things Hopkins lacrosse. Wonder why that is?

But, your point is moot. The offense didn't look good last night. You can make whatever argument or excuse you want but 6 on 4 for 30 seconds should be a good shot on goal within 10-15 second not a last second mad rush.

By the end of the day, this forum will desire a consult from marathon runners on their training regimens, so the team does not tire.

notentitled wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:15 am By the end of the day, this forum will desire a consult from marathon runners on their training regimens, so the team does not tire.

steel_hop wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:10 am

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:35 pm

steel_hop wrote: ↑Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:19 pm I didn't see the other 2 games

That's all you needed to say. Thanks for the input

You right. I don't make Hopkins lacrosse my job. I actually have a life and do other things in it. Though apparently it is your job to defend all things Hopkins lacrosse. Wonder why that is?

But, your point is moot. The offense didn't look good last night. You can make whatever argument or excuse you want but 6 on 4 for 30 seconds should be a good shot on goal within 10-15 second not a last second mad rush.

I made that same point about the offense and the EMO before you did. When the goalie has more points than several offensive midfielders then clearly things ain't all perfect. Just think it's ridiculous that you're "not a fan of Crawley's offense" after admitting you watched the 1 loss but did not watch the 2 wins. Go and watch the 2nd half Georgetown highlights and if you're still not a fan of the offense, then great! At least you'll have more to go off of.

He has a long lasting relationship w the lax team and played in title games as i recall. I read it as more of an execution than strategy issue but he can correct me if i am wrong. Player not coach

tech37 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:10 am

jhu06 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 7:38 am

notentitled wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 6:31 am I viewed cheerful commentary yesterday. This morning I see a return to misery.

this was a winnable game that got away. in the past these have been "someone should lose their job" blowouts. big difference.

Quint I think had it right...your boys ran out of gas.

Agree. Tuned in late, just a minute before the Heels tied it at 7. What I saw from there on was a Hopkins team fading fast, to the point where four Hells could keep up with six Jays. Sure looked like they ran out of gas to me.

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:22 am "not a fan of Crawley's offense" a

Obviously, players are players and you can only do so much but the offense didn't look that much different than last year. At the end of the day it is still Crawley's implementation of PM's offense, much like it was Grant's take on PM's offense the two years before. There wasn't much of a threat out there. We can certainly blame tired legs but it still looked pedestrian.

I get the 2nd half Hopkins was trying to slow the pace but the ball wasn't moving much and remained in kids sticks too long. UNC should be credited for tightening up in the 2nd half and put a lot of pressure on offensive players making it difficult to move the ball.

The EMO looks stagnant. And I'm not surprised that it is 0-4 in 3 games. That is truly bad.

steel_hop wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:39 am

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:22 am "not a fan of Crawley's offense" a

Obviously, players are players and you can only do so much but the offense didn't look that much different than last year. At the end of the day it is still Crawley's implementation of PM's offense, much like it was Grant's take on PM's offense the two years before.

This is a fair point. The reality is Grant Jr. was relieved of his OC duties around the mid point last year and PM ran it going forward. I have no idea if Crawley has the keys to the car or not but if PM big timed Jr. I can’t imagine he’s given full control to Crawley.

flalax22 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:47 am

steel_hop wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:39 am

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 15, 2023 8:22 am "not a fan of Crawley's offense" a

Obviously, players are players and you can only do so much but the offense didn't look that much different than last year. At the end of the day it is still Crawley's implementation of PM's offense, much like it was Grant's take on PM's offense the two years before.

This is a fair point. The reality is Grant Jr. was relieved of his OC duties around the mid point last year and PM ran it going forward. I have no idea if Crawley has the keys to the car or not but if PM big timed Jr. I can’t imagine he’s given full control to Crawley.

hawley came on late. they're running 5 credible ssdms when there've been years they've struggled to have 1 or 2.

I won't go into a conversation about espn labeling it player up.

Quint savaging the band when he was remote last weekend was special. You could feel his pain in the graphic showing that espn's beloved maryland, georgetown, duke and denver all lost last weekend.


Alex Wisner @_alexwisner Feb 13 Just called to inquiry about a box for the Hopkins vs @CuseMLAX game on 3/11 and they are sold out. If you’ve been to a game in recent years that probably seems crazy. I have a feeling it’s going to be PACKED (relative to lacrosse) for @MikePowellco

A fan base to the north appears to be following matters in Baltimore. I'm glad homewood could resuscitate interest in a woebegone program.