Re: January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?
Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:39 pm
... if they have a case, it must be prosecuted. To do anything else sends the message that there is no law, no justice. Game over.
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... if they have a case, it must be prosecuted. To do anything else sends the message that there is no law, no justice. Game over.
Actually, that's quite incorrect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:04 amIf you stab someone in the heart and miss the aorta that person was also never in danger. Your definition of "logic" is very interesting and subject to your own personal interpretation.
What the heck does that have to do with Anderson's analogy?LandM wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:21 pm Anderson,
If your post was intended for me - you can sleep well. Geneva Convention and "Rules of Engagement". ????? Bill Clinton had Osama in sights - armed - ready for the kill. He did not engage - Osama was a smart guy - he always had a woman or a kid at his side - you know that pesky thing - rules of engagement. As a forgiving country - we all get to hear lawyers tell us how we can wind up in jail. How many lives and how many dollars? We do not just off people cause we can, burn their land, randomly fire. As a COUNTRY we have grown. If you want to wear the "big boy pants" wear them. So no, your analogy is foreign to me if that was directed at me.
Dis - yes I was there - hot man, if that was not he$$ - it depicted what I know of it. I only know of fatty as someone who likes weed, guns and I think is a libertarian - keep pushing a narrative - eventually it may come true.
I didn't miss the mark. If you miss the heart the stab wound is little more than a flesh wound. If you try and shoot someone and the gun jams the effect is the same. What the topic is about is intent as in did the initial attempt at bodily harm purposely create the possibility of injury or death.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:55 pmActually, that's quite incorrect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:04 amIf you stab someone in the heart and miss the aorta that person was also never in danger. Your definition of "logic" is very interesting and subject to your own personal interpretation.
If you "stab someone in the heart", with or without hitting the aorta, the person is likely to die. Very much "in danger".
Not sure what you were going for, cradle, but you missed the mark...
Bull. Only if the stab would is less than a quarter inch deep or so. You don't have to hit the heart to kill someone.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:07 pmI didn't miss the mark. If you miss the heart the stab wound is little more than a flesh wound. If you try and shoot someone and the gun jams the effect is the same. What the topic is about is intent as in did the initial attempt at bodily harm purposely create the possibility of injury or death.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:55 pmActually, that's quite incorrect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:04 amIf you stab someone in the heart and miss the aorta that person was also never in danger. Your definition of "logic" is very interesting and subject to your own personal interpretation.
If you "stab someone in the heart", with or without hitting the aorta, the person is likely to die. Very much "in danger".
Not sure what you were going for, cradle, but you missed the mark...
Glad you're not a doctor, cradle!cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:07 pmI didn't miss the mark. If you miss the heart the stab wound is little more than a flesh wound. If you try and shoot someone and the gun jams the effect is the same. What the topic is about is intent as in did the initial attempt at bodily harm purposely create the possibility of injury or death.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:55 pmActually, that's quite incorrect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:04 amIf you stab someone in the heart and miss the aorta that person was also never in danger. Your definition of "logic" is very interesting and subject to your own personal interpretation.
If you "stab someone in the heart", with or without hitting the aorta, the person is likely to die. Very much "in danger".
Not sure what you were going for, cradle, but you missed the mark...
Posterity.Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:59 pmQuoted for permanency?youthathletics wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 2:31 pm#QFPjhu72 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:59 am ... Trump is done as a presidential candidate. Martha McCallum yesterday proved it is possible to embarras a right wing media whore. He still for the most part controls the republiCON party, but those who would vote for him in 2024 are fewer than in 2020. I will be very surprised if he gets the party nomination. By July 2024 he will be greatly diminished and have lost control of the party, but will still have a say in who the candidate is - he will continue to carry the banner for the most deplorable, still a significant republiCON voting block. It is going to be very difficult to unite the republiCON party for 2024. The anti Trump block will be much larger than in 2020.
what the heck are you talking about "skin in the game"? I'm an American citizen, with family who are American citizens, what more "skin in the game" do I need to be concerned with a "clear and present danger" threatening our country, our democracy?
I'm lucky dude MD. Way back in 1979 I had my first leave after graduating Ft Benning and heading to Ft Bragg. My friend and I were gassing up his car after a night of celebrating. Several folks at the gas station relieved us of our money by waving a machete in our face. When the one guy stabbed me in the leg he just missed my femoral artery. You familiar with that other major blood carrying vessel? A lotta blood but no major damage. I enjoyed your anatomy lecture. I do understand that the average FLP including yourself has no heart or other major arteries to worry about. I can understand why such a wound would be of no concern to you. The fact you are a lifelong Republican certainly verified by most liberals on our forum is proof that you don't have a heart anyway.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:33 pmGlad you're not a doctor, cradle!cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:07 pmI didn't miss the mark. If you miss the heart the stab wound is little more than a flesh wound. If you try and shoot someone and the gun jams the effect is the same. What the topic is about is intent as in did the initial attempt at bodily harm purposely create the possibility of injury or death.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:55 pmActually, that's quite incorrect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:04 amIf you stab someone in the heart and miss the aorta that person was also never in danger. Your definition of "logic" is very interesting and subject to your own personal interpretation.
If you "stab someone in the heart", with or without hitting the aorta, the person is likely to die. Very much "in danger".
Not sure what you were going for, cradle, but you missed the mark...
No, the aorta is not the heart. It's the largest artery. Carries blood away from the heart.
Hitting the aorta definitely "in danger" yes.
But you said "stab someone in the heart and miss the aorta"...nope, you can miss the aorta and kill someone if you actually hit the heart or another coronary artery.
Now, you want to change your analogy and say "miss the heart"...and here too, you would be wrong, depending on what you hit/cut instead. Yes, very much "in danger".
You might get lucky and be saved in time (that's what the miss provides, more time) but you were very much "in danger".
Try it, you won't like it...ohhh, you don't want to "try it"???
Why, because you have a (rational) reptilian concern about being wrong, being "in danger"?
oops, I hit the heart (or aorta) or any other coronary artery???
Yeah, "in danger".
Only "lucky" if there's a clean miss.
Now, let's say someone tries to stab you in the heart, trying to kill you, but they "miss" enough such that the paramedics and docs get to you in time. You gonna want the cat who tried to stab you prosecuted?
Or would you say, "never mind, I was never "in danger"?"
What if you cut out someone’s heart, ran over it with a SUV, but put it back in the cavity and gave him a Kit Kat to boot. No harm no foul?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:55 pmActually, that's quite incorrect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:04 amIf you stab someone in the heart and miss the aorta that person was also never in danger. Your definition of "logic" is very interesting and subject to your own personal interpretation.
If you "stab someone in the heart", with or without hitting the aorta, the person is likely to die. Very much "in danger".
Not sure what you were going for, cradle, but you missed the mark...
LandM wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:58 pm MD,
I did not watch his testimony - I did read what you linked.
I also read the Brookings report as linked by Sea
In total it was over the 300 pages - I did read it and did the best that I could to follow it - it did not change my opinion but I did - thank you for sending that
We are ALL AMERICANS - we all pay taxes - we all have separate values and beliefs - I am way less smarter then you - Dartmouth never recruited me to play football at 18 in NV - this thread is focused on one guy - he got to be one guy because one other politician was worse then him - that is hard for me to fathom.
BUT 74 million people voted for that 1 guy - why be divisive? Why not find a common ground =- get along - smoke some smorshes and do some back yard BBQ? Why - have we become a country where we cannot just find a way to put aside differences? Do the right thing.
I want to say as best as I can - if you want to strap it on - it is easy to puff - not so easy when the jerk flying in a pi$$ant country that your fellow Mericans have no clue your in.
You must enjoy ranting; and not actually respondingcradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:00 pmI'm lucky dude MD. Way back in 1979 I had my first leave after graduating Ft Benning and heading to Ft Bragg. My friend and I were gassing up his car after a night of celebrating. Several folks at the gas station relieved us of our money by waving a machete in our face. When the one guy stabbed me in the leg he just missed my femoral artery. You familiar with that other major blood carrying vessel? A lotta blood but no major damage. I enjoyed your anatomy lecture. I do understand that the average FLP including yourself has no heart or other major arteries to worry about. I can understand why such a wound would be of no concern to you. The fact you are a lifelong Republican certainly verified by most liberals on our forum is proof that you don't have a heart anyway.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:33 pmGlad you're not a doctor, cradle!cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:07 pmI didn't miss the mark. If you miss the heart the stab wound is little more than a flesh wound. If you try and shoot someone and the gun jams the effect is the same. What the topic is about is intent as in did the initial attempt at bodily harm purposely create the possibility of injury or death.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:55 pmActually, that's quite incorrect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:04 amIf you stab someone in the heart and miss the aorta that person was also never in danger. Your definition of "logic" is very interesting and subject to your own personal interpretation.
If you "stab someone in the heart", with or without hitting the aorta, the person is likely to die. Very much "in danger".
Not sure what you were going for, cradle, but you missed the mark...
No, the aorta is not the heart. It's the largest artery. Carries blood away from the heart.
Hitting the aorta definitely "in danger" yes.
But you said "stab someone in the heart and miss the aorta"...nope, you can miss the aorta and kill someone if you actually hit the heart or another coronary artery.
Now, you want to change your analogy and say "miss the heart"...and here too, you would be wrong, depending on what you hit/cut instead. Yes, very much "in danger".
You might get lucky and be saved in time (that's what the miss provides, more time) but you were very much "in danger".
Try it, you won't like it...ohhh, you don't want to "try it"???
Why, because you have a (rational) reptilian concern about being wrong, being "in danger"?
oops, I hit the heart (or aorta) or any other coronary artery???
Yeah, "in danger".
Only "lucky" if there's a clean miss.
Now, let's say someone tries to stab you in the heart, trying to kill you, but they "miss" enough such that the paramedics and docs get to you in time. You gonna want the cat who tried to stab you prosecuted?
Or would you say, "never mind, I was never "in danger"?"
I'm 100% in favor of finding common ground whenever and wherever we can. I get all kinds of grief for that from some of the other posters on here, but that's my preference.LandM wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:58 pm MD,
I did not watch his testimony - I did read what you linked.
I also read the Brookings report as linked by Sea
In total it was over the 300 pages - I did read it and did the best that I could to follow it - it did not change my opinion but I did - thank you for sending that
We are ALL AMERICANS - we all pay taxes - we all have separate values and beliefs - I am way less smarter then you - Dartmouth never recruited me to play football at 18 in NV - this thread is focused on one guy - he got to be one guy because one other politician was worse then him - that is hard for me to fathom.
BUT 74 million people voted for that 1 guy - why be divisive? Why not find a common ground =- get along - smoke some smorshes and do some back yard BBQ? Why - have we become a country where we cannot just find a way to put aside differences? Do the right thing.
I want to say as best as I can - if you want to strap it on - it is easy to puff - not so easy when the jerk flying in a pi$$ant country that your fellow Mericans have no clue your in.
You can literally pull a man's heart out of his chest and hold it in your hand with no effect. I saw it in an archaeology documentary titled "The Temple of Doom".ardilla secreta wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 6:34 pmWhat if you cut out someone’s heart, ran over it with a SUV, but put it back in the cavity and gave him a Kit Kat to boot. No harm no foul?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:55 pmActually, that's quite incorrect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:04 amIf you stab someone in the heart and miss the aorta that person was also never in danger. Your definition of "logic" is very interesting and subject to your own personal interpretation.
If you "stab someone in the heart", with or without hitting the aorta, the person is likely to die. Very much "in danger".
Not sure what you were going for, cradle, but you missed the mark...
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:22 pmYou can literally pull a man's heart out of his chest and hold it in your hand with no effect. I saw it in an archaeology documentary titled "The Temple of Doom".ardilla secreta wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 6:34 pmWhat if you cut out someone’s heart, ran over it with a SUV, but put it back in the cavity and gave him a Kit Kat to boot. No harm no foul?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:55 pmActually, that's quite incorrect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:04 amIf you stab someone in the heart and miss the aorta that person was also never in danger. Your definition of "logic" is very interesting and subject to your own personal interpretation.
If you "stab someone in the heart", with or without hitting the aorta, the person is likely to die. Very much "in danger".
Not sure what you were going for, cradle, but you missed the mark...
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:22 pmYou can literally pull a man's heart out of his chest and hold it in your hand with no effect. I saw it in an archaeology documentary titled "The Temple of Doom".ardilla secreta wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 6:34 pmWhat if you cut out someone’s heart, ran over it with a SUV, but put it back in the cavity and gave him a Kit Kat to boot. No harm no foul?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:55 pmActually, that's quite incorrect.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:04 amIf you stab someone in the heart and miss the aorta that person was also never in danger. Your definition of "logic" is very interesting and subject to your own personal interpretation.
If you "stab someone in the heart", with or without hitting the aorta, the person is likely to die. Very much "in danger".
Not sure what you were going for, cradle, but you missed the mark...