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Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:29 am
by dislaxxic
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:17 pm
tech37 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:47 pm What is "imbecillic' is your refusal to rule out any chance of lab-leak, especially with how China has refused to cooperate fully to uncover the true origin of the virus. And the fact that the WHO continues to investigate China's role should put to rest any idea that the lab-leak hypothesis does not continue to be taken seriously.
I have to ask: what difference does it make where it came from? I'm at a loss as to why this is a big deal one way or another. \

It came from a Chinese lab: now what?

It came from a bat: now what?

I don't get it....
Maybe we've just gotten too paranoid and wrapped up in the "whose fault is it?" thing.

It won't hurt anything, and may, in fact, help to understand more about the origins issue.

What it WON'T do is deflect from the fact that Donald Trump had a SINGULARY wretched, incorrect and ultimately hugely disastrous "response" to the COVID threat and our entire national response to it. Where the virus came from will NEVER change the fact that this moron botched the national response to this pandemic in a way that is STILL TO THIS DAY harming Americans and America. Bigly.

So, as far as i'm concerned, go right ahead and find out all you can about the origins. If the Lizard Brains decide Anthony Fauci created this virus in his garage and took it over to Wuhan to "make a killing" ($$) somehow, none of that will ever change how Donald Trump single-handedly turned this situation into a national calamity...one that continues today thanks to him. That much is already proven and, obvious.

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Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:38 am
by CU88
Why didn’t Powell’s vaccine work?

Katelyn Jetelina
Oct 19

https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substac ... tm_source=


Colin Powell passed away yesterday from COVID19. He joined 7,178 other fully vaccinated people that have succumbed to COVID19 in the Untied States. Why didn’t his vaccine work? There are two main reasons…

First, he was immunocompromised.

At 85 years old, Powell was fighting multiple myeloma—a rare type of blood cancer. In 2020, 32,270 people were diagnosed with multiple myeloma and the number of cases have steadily increased the past 15 years. It’s a very random cancer. We don’t know what causes it but certain groups are at higher risk: African Americans/Blacks; males; and older ages.

Multiple myeloma cancer attacks our plasma cells— cells that make our antibodies. This limits the body’s capability to fend off infections. There is no cure for multiple myeloma, but we have a few treatments that slow the progression of disease. Some patients get immunosuppressive treatments, which also weakens the immune system. So, a multiple myeloma patient’s immune system gets doubly wiped out: disease-induced and treatment-induced.

Because of this, multiple myeloma patients develop more frequent infections (7-fold increase in developing a bacterial infection and a 10-fold increase for developing viral infections) turning infection into its leading cause of death. The 5-year survival rate is 55.6%.


(Oncopeptides, Image source here)
Unfortunately, disease also reduces multiple myeloma patients’ capability to generate immunity from vaccination. We’ve seen diminished responses from vaccines like influenza and varicella.

We’ve also seen diminished response to the COVID19 vaccine. This means that even if a multiple myeloma patient gets a COVID19 vaccine they may not mount a full protective response. Below is figure that shows the results of 63 studies that assessed vaccine effectiveness across immunocompromised groups. The dark blue dots are blood cancer studies, which have significantly lower vaccine effectiveness compared to other cancers (and compared to healthy controls). For example, one study found that only half of patients with blood cancer generate sufficient immune protection.


(CDC; Source here)
This is why, on August 13, the CDC and FDA approved a third dose for a number of immunocompromised patients. The booster is not a silver bullet, but seems to help. Among groups that have no detectable antibody response to an initial vaccine series, 33-50% developed an antibody response to an additional dose. Powell did not get the booster.

Second, society has failed to protect the vulnerable.

Individualized approaches don’t work for infectious diseases. Infections are literally caused by interactions. The decisions we make (like not wearing a mask or not getting a vaccine) directly impact those around us. And not just those around at the time. SARS-CoV-2 can linger in the room for more than 16 hours. Infectious diseases violate the assumption of independence. This is not functionally true for other health problems, like diabetes or cancer.

We have to stop transmission until we can build our immunity wall. Masks reduce transmission. Vaccines reduce transmission. And we have the tool, in ample supply, to build a protective wall for our most vulnerable. We just have to do it.

Why is herd immunity so important? | American Academy of Pediatrics
Bottom Line: Unfortunately Colin Powell died because of a deadly combination of an incurable cancer, old age, weakened immune system, and exposure to a deadly virus. The vaccine couldn’t save Colin Powell, but we could have. His death is a reminder of how serious this pandemic is and that we need to everything in our power to protect the 5.5 million immunocompromised around us.

Love, YLE

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:42 am
by SCLaxAttack
tech37 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:55 am
SCLaxAttack wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:40 am
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:17 pm
tech37 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:47 pm What is "imbecillic' is your refusal to rule out any chance of lab-leak, especially with how China has refused to cooperate fully to uncover the true origin of the virus. And the fact that the WHO continues to investigate China's role should put to rest any idea that the lab-leak hypothesis does not continue to be taken seriously.
I have to ask: what difference does it make where it came from? I'm at a loss as to why this is a big deal one way or another. \

It came from a Chinese lab: now what?

It came from a bat: now what?

I don't get it....
Sure you do. It’s a much better political trope for a certain segment of a major political party if we could return to the days of calling it the Kung flu. Then their hero can return with a big “I told you so” and all his sycophants can cheer and erect a new gallows… this time for Fauci because everyone knows it was his (not the agency’s, his personal) funding of the lab.
Incomprehensible. Millions dead and your position is who cares where it came from? "now what?"

How about... if we understand how this happened, right down to what occurred on a molecular level, this can be avoided in the future. You actually don't understand this? Unfortunately (so far) without China's cooperation we can't be certain. With total transparency it can be shown that the pandemic was caused by human manipulation in the lab or not. If so, GOF or any similar research can then be banned worldwide and the next worse pandemic may not occur.

There are very smart scientists around the world who can find a new, safer way to do this research. Perhaps through some sort of computer simulation or other, who knows? We do know that fallible humans tinkering with deadly viruses is a disaster waiting to happen.

a fan emotionally posts about the threat to his family members and business (understandably so, who wouldn't) but then asks such illogical questions? Based on that, I'm the one "at a loss."

And to further politicize this, is just dumb. "political trope" :roll:

Why is the WHO continuing to investigate the virus origin?... because Republicans insist they do? :lol:
Cue the Jon Lovitz tape:

“Yeah, that’s right. THAT’S the ticket!”

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:45 am
by Typical Lax Dad
CU88 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:38 am Why didn’t Powell’s vaccine work?

Katelyn Jetelina
Oct 19

https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substac ... tm_source=


Colin Powell passed away yesterday from COVID19. He joined 7,178 other fully vaccinated people that have succumbed to COVID19 in the Untied States. Why didn’t his vaccine work? There are two main reasons…

First, he was immunocompromised.

At 85 years old, Powell was fighting multiple myeloma—a rare type of blood cancer. In 2020, 32,270 people were diagnosed with multiple myeloma and the number of cases have steadily increased the past 15 years. It’s a very random cancer. We don’t know what causes it but certain groups are at higher risk: African Americans/Blacks; males; and older ages.

Multiple myeloma cancer attacks our plasma cells— cells that make our antibodies. This limits the body’s capability to fend off infections. There is no cure for multiple myeloma, but we have a few treatments that slow the progression of disease. Some patients get immunosuppressive treatments, which also weakens the immune system. So, a multiple myeloma patient’s immune system gets doubly wiped out: disease-induced and treatment-induced.

Because of this, multiple myeloma patients develop more frequent infections (7-fold increase in developing a bacterial infection and a 10-fold increase for developing viral infections) turning infection into its leading cause of death. The 5-year survival rate is 55.6%.


(Oncopeptides, Image source here)
Unfortunately, disease also reduces multiple myeloma patients’ capability to generate immunity from vaccination. We’ve seen diminished responses from vaccines like influenza and varicella.

We’ve also seen diminished response to the COVID19 vaccine. This means that even if a multiple myeloma patient gets a COVID19 vaccine they may not mount a full protective response. Below is figure that shows the results of 63 studies that assessed vaccine effectiveness across immunocompromised groups. The dark blue dots are blood cancer studies, which have significantly lower vaccine effectiveness compared to other cancers (and compared to healthy controls). For example, one study found that only half of patients with blood cancer generate sufficient immune protection.


(CDC; Source here)
This is why, on August 13, the CDC and FDA approved a third dose for a number of immunocompromised patients. The booster is not a silver bullet, but seems to help. Among groups that have no detectable antibody response to an initial vaccine series, 33-50% developed an antibody response to an additional dose. Powell did not get the booster.

Second, society has failed to protect the vulnerable.

Individualized approaches don’t work for infectious diseases. Infections are literally caused by interactions. The decisions we make (like not wearing a mask or not getting a vaccine) directly impact those around us. And not just those around at the time. SARS-CoV-2 can linger in the room for more than 16 hours. Infectious diseases violate the assumption of independence. This is not functionally true for other health problems, like diabetes or cancer.

We have to stop transmission until we can build our immunity wall. Masks reduce transmission. Vaccines reduce transmission. And we have the tool, in ample supply, to build a protective wall for our most vulnerable. We just have to do it.

Why is herd immunity so important? | American Academy of Pediatrics
Bottom Line: Unfortunately Colin Powell died because of a deadly combination of an incurable cancer, old age, weakened immune system, and exposure to a deadly virus. The vaccine couldn’t save Colin Powell, but we could have. His death is a reminder of how serious this pandemic is and that we need to everything in our power to protect the 5.5 million immunocompromised around us.

Love, YLE
Thanks for posting that. Good detail.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:05 am
by JoeMauer89
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:42 pm https://twitter.com/sinow/status/145024 ... 14976?s=21

Bye Nick. Maybe Marin Catholic needs a volunteer.

Rolovich and all other unvaccinated Washington State assistants have been terminated for cause. Defensive coordinator and linebackers coach Jake Dickert is reportedly expected take over as interim head coach, per ESPN's Kyle Bonagura.
Shouldn't be a surprise, he was prepared to lose his job over this. Whether its right or wrong, this isn't a shock to Nick.

Joe

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:09 am
by JoeMauer89
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:37 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:35 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:42 pm https://twitter.com/sinow/status/145024 ... 14976?s=21

Bye Nick. Maybe Marin Catholic needs a volunteer.

Rolovich and all other unvaccinated Washington State assistants have been terminated for cause. Defensive coordinator and linebackers coach Jake Dickert is reportedly expected take over as interim head coach, per ESPN's Kyle Bonagura.
Amazing that pinheads like Rolovich would give up a head coaching job at a PAC 12 school just to avoid getting a vaccine. Childish. Good to see the state of Washington take this seriously. Kentfield doesn’t need Nick.

There’s no “I” in team for Nick.
Coach Rolovich was the highest-paid state employee in all of Washington … $3 million.

https://www.upi.com/amp/Sports_News/202 ... 634611352/

So, why did he just throw all of that away?

Not because he’s a principled man, because a principled man is never a selfish pr*ck.

Not because he’s a religious man, because a truly religious man is never a selfish pr*ck.

Because he’s a right-wing extremist? Possible, because most right-wing extremists are selfish pr*cks.

Because he’s some type of cultist? That’s possible, too.

One thing he definitely is not … a team player. And THAT deficiency should prevent him from ever getting another head coaching job.

DocBarrister :?
Simple question, do you think he gives a flying f**ck what you think? I think he's going to bed able to sleep just fine tonight. The guy knew he was going to lose his damn job, your acting disingenuous if you think otherwise. :roll: :roll:

Joe

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:17 am
by JoeMauer89
dislaxxic wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:29 am
a fan wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:17 pm
tech37 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:47 pm What is "imbecillic' is your refusal to rule out any chance of lab-leak, especially with how China has refused to cooperate fully to uncover the true origin of the virus. And the fact that the WHO continues to investigate China's role should put to rest any idea that the lab-leak hypothesis does not continue to be taken seriously.
I have to ask: what difference does it make where it came from? I'm at a loss as to why this is a big deal one way or another. \

It came from a Chinese lab: now what?

It came from a bat: now what?

I don't get it....
Maybe we've just gotten too paranoid and wrapped up in the "whose fault is it?" thing.

It won't hurt anything, and may, in fact, help to understand more about the origins issue.

What it WON'T do is deflect from the fact that Donald Trump had a SINGULARY wretched, incorrect and ultimately hugely disastrous "response" to the COVID threat and our entire national response to it. Where the virus came from will NEVER change the fact that this moron botched the national response to this pandemic in a way that is STILL TO THIS DAY harming Americans and America. Bigly.

So, as far as i'm concerned, go right ahead and find out all you can about the origins. If the Lizard Brains decide Anthony Fauci created this virus in his garage and took it over to Wuhan to "make a killing" ($$) somehow, none of that will ever change how Donald Trump single-handedly turned this situation into a national calamity...one that continues today thanks to him. That much is already proven and, obvious.

..
Let me get this straight, Joe Biden who is now our fearless leader, has no bearing on how long this situation remains a national calamity? I mean Trump hasn't been in power for nearly 9 months now, so NONE of Joes action's since he took over our response as President will determine how much longer this situation remains a "national calamity" moving forward? NONE OF HIS ACTIONS AT ALL? Because I mean the man that you have so much hatred for turned this situation into a national calamity and nothing that is ever done after that will have ANY BEARING on the trajectory and outcome of the response. For the rest of time it will be on DT, because he singled handedly turned it into a national calamity and nothing in our response afterwards has NO BEARING moving forward. Truly sad that you think this way. Truly sad. Rationality, you should try it sometime. :roll: :roll:

Joe

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:20 am
by Kismet
Welcome to Joe's daily outrage!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:33 am
by Typical Lax Dad
JoeMauer89 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:05 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:42 pm https://twitter.com/sinow/status/145024 ... 14976?s=21

Bye Nick. Maybe Marin Catholic needs a volunteer.

Rolovich and all other unvaccinated Washington State assistants have been terminated for cause. Defensive coordinator and linebackers coach Jake Dickert is reportedly expected take over as interim head coach, per ESPN's Kyle Bonagura.
Shouldn't be a surprise, he was prepared to lose his job over this. Whether its right or wrong, this isn't a shock to Nick.

Joe
I wonder what his claim for a “religious exemption” was?

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:39 am
by JoeMauer89
Kismet wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:20 am Welcome to Joe's daily outrage!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Daily outrage? What the heck are you talking about. you FLP brethren don't realize how much of a joke this thread has become. Just a big circle jerk of how much you hate Trump. Isn't there another thread for that? Clueless, utterly clueless. This little thread is SO FAR from reality that you FLP brethren wouldn't even know reality if it shot you in the damn face. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Joe

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:40 am
by Farfromgeneva
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:33 am
JoeMauer89 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:05 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:42 pm https://twitter.com/sinow/status/145024 ... 14976?s=21

Bye Nick. Maybe Marin Catholic needs a volunteer.

Rolovich and all other unvaccinated Washington State assistants have been terminated for cause. Defensive coordinator and linebackers coach Jake Dickert is reportedly expected take over as interim head coach, per ESPN's Kyle Bonagura.
Shouldn't be a surprise, he was prepared to lose his job over this. Whether its right or wrong, this isn't a shock to Nick.

Joe
I wonder what his claim for a “religious exemption” was?
Church of CTE

Signed, former football player who's had his share of concussions, or as our old trainer at HWS Doug would refer to it, "you got your bell rung and need a can of suck it up...". Also having had lacrosse playing friend die from CTE

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:42 am
by JoeMauer89
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:33 am
JoeMauer89 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:05 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:42 pm https://twitter.com/sinow/status/145024 ... 14976?s=21

Bye Nick. Maybe Marin Catholic needs a volunteer.

Rolovich and all other unvaccinated Washington State assistants have been terminated for cause. Defensive coordinator and linebackers coach Jake Dickert is reportedly expected take over as interim head coach, per ESPN's Kyle Bonagura.
Shouldn't be a surprise, he was prepared to lose his job over this. Whether its right or wrong, this isn't a shock to Nick.

Joe
I wonder what his claim for a “religious exemption” was?
Who knows, who cares? As far as you guys on this thread are concerned, he lost his job right? The story is over after that. Why does it matter what his reasoning was? He's not getting the shot and it cost him his job. He knew this would be the outcome and was rightfully prepared for it to happen. How many coaches are there in CFB? This happened to one coach. Probably won't coach again at the college level again if not for a very long time. Why does it matter what his reasoning was? No matter what it is, it will be lambasted on this thread. This is a non-story moving forward. He lost his job, time to move on. What's going on with Kyrie? :lol:

Joe

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:46 am
by Farfromgeneva
TLD, I'd like to discuss Kyrie over another idiotic post with overuse of emojis in stupid and useless ways.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:46 am
by MDlaxfan76
JoeMauer89 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:09 am
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:37 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:35 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:42 pm https://twitter.com/sinow/status/145024 ... 14976?s=21

Bye Nick. Maybe Marin Catholic needs a volunteer.

Rolovich and all other unvaccinated Washington State assistants have been terminated for cause. Defensive coordinator and linebackers coach Jake Dickert is reportedly expected take over as interim head coach, per ESPN's Kyle Bonagura.
Amazing that pinheads like Rolovich would give up a head coaching job at a PAC 12 school just to avoid getting a vaccine. Childish. Good to see the state of Washington take this seriously. Kentfield doesn’t need Nick.

There’s no “I” in team for Nick.
Coach Rolovich was the highest-paid state employee in all of Washington … $3 million.

https://www.upi.com/amp/Sports_News/202 ... 634611352/

So, why did he just throw all of that away?

Not because he’s a principled man, because a principled man is never a selfish pr*ck.

Not because he’s a religious man, because a truly religious man is never a selfish pr*ck.

Because he’s a right-wing extremist? Possible, because most right-wing extremists are selfish pr*cks.

Because he’s some type of cultist? That’s possible, too.

One thing he definitely is not … a team player. And THAT deficiency should prevent him from ever getting another head coaching job.

DocBarrister :?
Simple question, do you think he gives a flying f**ck what you think? I think he's going to bed able to sleep just fine tonight. The guy knew he was going to lose his damn job, your acting disingenuous if you think otherwise. :roll: :roll:

Joe
I think he was calling him a selfish pr*ck. Not at all "disingenuous".

We don't know, for a certainty, that he thought he would actually be fired. A lot of these folks think their employers are bluffing.

However, I do agree with your earlier response that he at least knew he was risking his job. How great a risk he felt that was is another matter.

IMO, the guy will get another job somewhere.

That said, I'd never hire him to be responsible for the management of a staff and young people because I'd never trust his judgment...absent one heck of a recognition of how wrong he'd been.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:47 am
by JoeMauer89
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:46 am TLD, I'd like to discuss Kyrie over another idiotic post with overuse of emojis in stupid and useless ways.
Have a nice life. Oh wait, that's your line! :lol:

Joe

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:49 am
by MDlaxfan76
JoeMauer89 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:42 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:33 am
JoeMauer89 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:05 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:42 pm https://twitter.com/sinow/status/145024 ... 14976?s=21

Bye Nick. Maybe Marin Catholic needs a volunteer.

Rolovich and all other unvaccinated Washington State assistants have been terminated for cause. Defensive coordinator and linebackers coach Jake Dickert is reportedly expected take over as interim head coach, per ESPN's Kyle Bonagura.
Shouldn't be a surprise, he was prepared to lose his job over this. Whether its right or wrong, this isn't a shock to Nick.

Joe
I wonder what his claim for a “religious exemption” was?
Who knows, who cares? As far as you guys on this thread are concerned, he lost his job right? The story is over after that. Why does it matter what his reasoning was? He's not getting the shot and it cost him his job. He knew this would be the outcome and was rightfully prepared for it to happen. How many coaches are there in CFB? This happened to one coach. Probably won't coach again at the college level again if not for a very long time. Why does it matter what his reasoning was? No matter what it is, it will be lambasted on this thread. This is a non-story moving forward. He lost his job, time to move on. What's going on with Kyrie? :lol:

Joe
It would matter positively (for him) if his religious claim actually had some reasonable basis yet was unfairly rejected.

However, if it was obviously BS, a lie, then the rejection and firing is even more justified.
And it would probably matter to a future hiring situation.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:51 am
by JoeMauer89
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:46 am
JoeMauer89 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:09 am
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:37 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:35 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:42 pm https://twitter.com/sinow/status/145024 ... 14976?s=21

Bye Nick. Maybe Marin Catholic needs a volunteer.

Rolovich and all other unvaccinated Washington State assistants have been terminated for cause. Defensive coordinator and linebackers coach Jake Dickert is reportedly expected take over as interim head coach, per ESPN's Kyle Bonagura.
Amazing that pinheads like Rolovich would give up a head coaching job at a PAC 12 school just to avoid getting a vaccine. Childish. Good to see the state of Washington take this seriously. Kentfield doesn’t need Nick.

There’s no “I” in team for Nick.
Coach Rolovich was the highest-paid state employee in all of Washington … $3 million.

https://www.upi.com/amp/Sports_News/202 ... 634611352/

So, why did he just throw all of that away?

Not because he’s a principled man, because a principled man is never a selfish pr*ck.

Not because he’s a religious man, because a truly religious man is never a selfish pr*ck.

Because he’s a right-wing extremist? Possible, because most right-wing extremists are selfish pr*cks.

Because he’s some type of cultist? That’s possible, too.

One thing he definitely is not … a team player. And THAT deficiency should prevent him from ever getting another head coaching job.

DocBarrister :?
Simple question, do you think he gives a flying f**ck what you think? I think he's going to bed able to sleep just fine tonight. The guy knew he was going to lose his damn job, your acting disingenuous if you think otherwise. :roll: :roll:

Joe
I think he was calling him a selfish pr*ck. Not at all "disingenuous".

We don't know, for a certainty, that he thought he would actually be fired. A lot of these folks think their employers are bluffing.

However, I do agree with your earlier response that he at least knew he was risking his job. How great a risk he felt that was is another matter.

IMO, the guy will get another job somewhere.

That said, I'd never hire him to be responsible for the management of a staff and young people because I'd never trust his judgment...absent one heck of a recognition of how wrong he'd been.
There's no doubt he's a prick, selfish is up to the eye of the beholder. He KNEW he was losing his job. His players knew, everybody knew. The state had clear guidelines, the university followed them. They communicated them to one of their most important athletic department employees. You may WANT to think he didn't know he was going to get fired because it makes it more "newsworthy", but that's not the case. He wasn't calling anyone's bluff. He made his bed and chose to lay in it. I'm sure life will go on for him. As will life on the Palouse for Wazzu Football. Maybe they can get Captain Leach back from Starkville! :lol:

Joe

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:52 am
by JoeMauer89
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:49 am
JoeMauer89 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:42 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:33 am
JoeMauer89 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:05 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:42 pm https://twitter.com/sinow/status/145024 ... 14976?s=21

Bye Nick. Maybe Marin Catholic needs a volunteer.

Rolovich and all other unvaccinated Washington State assistants have been terminated for cause. Defensive coordinator and linebackers coach Jake Dickert is reportedly expected take over as interim head coach, per ESPN's Kyle Bonagura.
Shouldn't be a surprise, he was prepared to lose his job over this. Whether its right or wrong, this isn't a shock to Nick.

Joe
I wonder what his claim for a “religious exemption” was?
Who knows, who cares? As far as you guys on this thread are concerned, he lost his job right? The story is over after that. Why does it matter what his reasoning was? He's not getting the shot and it cost him his job. He knew this would be the outcome and was rightfully prepared for it to happen. How many coaches are there in CFB? This happened to one coach. Probably won't coach again at the college level again if not for a very long time. Why does it matter what his reasoning was? No matter what it is, it will be lambasted on this thread. This is a non-story moving forward. He lost his job, time to move on. What's going on with Kyrie? :lol:

Joe
It would matter positively (for him) if his religious claim actually had some reasonable basis yet was unfairly rejected.

However, if it was obviously BS, a lie, then the rejection and firing is even more justified.
And it would probably matter to a future hiring situation.
Understood, but how you do you even know he want's to coach again? Maybe he devotes the rest of his life to a religious cause. You have no clue what Nick Rolovich does next. This is not as newsworthy as you think. Get back to me when Kyrie Irving get's banned from the NBA for refusing vaccination. Now that would be a story.

Joe

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:52 am
by dislaxxic
JoeMauer89 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:17 amLet me get this straight, Joe Biden who is now our fearless leader, has no bearing on how long this situation remains a national calamity? I mean Trump hasn't been in power for nearly 9 months now, so NONE of Joes action's since he took over our response as President will determine how much longer this situation remains a "national calamity" moving forward? NONE OF HIS ACTIONS AT ALL? Because I mean the man that you have so much hatred for turned this situation into a national calamity and nothing that is ever done after that will have ANY BEARING on the trajectory and outcome of the response. For the rest of time it will be on DT, because he singled handedly turned it into a national calamity and nothing in our response afterwards has NO BEARING moving forward. Truly sad that you think this way. Truly sad. Rationality, you should try it sometime. :roll: :roll:

Joe
There's some Fair and Balanced (rational??) thinking for you.

Who has poisoned MILLIONS of citizens attitudes about this calamity with his flat out numbnuttery? "Don't let that cruise line boat dock because 'my numbers will look bad!'" "It will go away when the weather warms up" The economy is WAY more important (again, "my numbers") than measures we take to stem the spread."

Who has RELENTLESSLY encouraged, cajoled and insisted that the country take steps to protect itself and its economy against the spread of this scourge.

ANY rational human being can see the night-and-day difference between the leadership shown by one man and the totally erroneous "leadership" of another. Tell us one blessed thing Trump did correctly here. Don't give is "Warp Speed" either...that whole program was forced on that moron by members of the government that were desperate to get a response, ANY competent, effective response going instead of the constant lying, obfuscation and blame-shifting this bum grifter was foisting on us all for four years.

Those that don't see the truth of this situation are simply tilting at windmills.

IS it a calamity or isn't it, Joe? Could trump have handled it in ANY different way than he did? What part of his response did you like? What more can Joe be doing at this time? You DO know that hundreds of thousands of Americans are resisting Joe's efforts at mitigating this situation because of one man, right? Can you acknowledge this or not?

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Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:54 am
by MDlaxfan76
JoeMauer89 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:39 am
Kismet wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:20 am Welcome to Joe's daily outrage!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Daily outrage? What the heck are you talking about. you FLP brethren don't realize how much of a joke this thread has become. Just a big circle jerk of how much you hate Trump. Isn't there another thread for that? Clueless, utterly clueless. This little thread is SO FAR from reality that you FLP brethren wouldn't even know reality if it shot you in the damn face. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Joe
"FLP", "joke", "circle jerk", "clueless, etc, etc.

Come on, Joe, you're just getting pushback.
Just make your arguments.