MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 16, 2021 12:01 pm
JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:12 pm
wgdsr wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:51 pm
speaking of which, prep next maybe is for propoganda on double digit %s of hospitalizations and deaths, already happening, among the vaccinated. inevitable as vaccine uptake happens. hopefully, on increasingly smaller totals.
how our administration handles that circumstance will be worth watching.
Masks are what stop hospitalizations alone, not vaccines. It's 2021 get with the program!
Edit: Here comes the, "It's masks and vaccinations together, etc, etc. I'd be a rich rich man if I got a dollar everytime an FLP brethren mindlessly refrained that from the moral hilltops..
Joe
Joe, who do you hear saying what I bolded in red above?
Not on here, right?
I don't do hardly any other social media, so maybe
someone is saying that, but I can't imagine what rationale would be used to support that.
I'm far from "FLP" so will take a crack, nevertheless, at your bait.
Obviously, when there were no vaccines, we had very little else not severely disruptive, other than masks, to slow the spread. Sure, we could all stay home, never see anyone else, but masks enabled us to not have to be 100% "distant", and this was very necessary, given the need to do various work, etc...and then masking enabled us to increasingly have more activities, more social interaction, yet still be "responsible" about minimizing risk to others.
And with vaccines, we now have a hugely important mechanism to help reduce impact of the disease and hopefully to reduce spread as well. But we know the vaccine doesn't mean we can't get and spread the virus, including asymptomatically. But it sure helps! On the other hand, a whole lot of folks remain unvaccinated.
Fortunately, we've learned that dispersion in the air is also super helpful to reducing risk, so there's lots of things we can do outside unmasked, or with great ventilation systems...yet, how hard is it really to put on a mask when inside in crowded environments with low ventilation and extended exposure? Obviously that's much more important when virus incidence in the community is high, and expected to be high therefore in such settings, and less so when virus incidence is low.
But somehow, we've made putting on a mask or not putting on a mask when we go in a convenience store, etc somehow a political statement rather than just good common sense for public health. Somehow, a big portion of our public thinks it's something to get angry about being expected/asked to do.
So, we're all mixed up about this.
We went to the Bond movie last week and wore masks, no big deal, except when eating and drinking. Most of those around us were doing so as well, which I appreciated. No big deal..but why was everyone not doing so? Sure, the ventilation is excellent and the spacing remains good, but what's the big deal? Are the non-mask wearers in those situations also not vaccinated? Given that attitude, are they doing lots and lots of things, similarly unmasked, which increase the risk that they could be carriers/spreaders at any given time?
Fortunately, the incidence is down a lot in our area right now...but it ain't crushed.
And I go back to how my son originally responded to how Americans weren't earring masks, as he arrived back from Shanghai, given that he'd spent a couple of years in Asia...it's no surprise that mask usage remains highest in the US among Asian Americans and Asian visa holders, etc. None of this mask stigma problem, they've seen that respiratory viruses are slowed by reducing respiration spread. Gee, who'd have thunk? Experience.