Is America a racist nation?

[Bandito]

The notion that there isn’t any systemic racism against non-white Americans is so racist that it is strong evidence that such systemic racism exists.

DocBarrister

Please cite some examples for me. To me, systemic means from a system. The Jim Crow South was systemic. What system today can survive our sensitivity to racism if it were to carry on it's own form of racism? Maybe public schools, where inner city schools are keeping their minority students from reaching their full potential, and even then, it isn't codified in any laws. It's just the NEA protecting crappy teachers.

Throwing around terms like "racist", "fascist" and "Nazi" have diluted the meaning of the words to the point where it's like the teacher in "Charlie Brown". "Wah wah wah, a wah wah wah wah".

Too many examples to cite all. Just a few …

Systemic racism in the application of the death penalty.

https://www.aclu.org/other/race-and-death-penalty

Systemic racism in the U.S. Armed Forces.

https://apnews.com/article/us-military- ... 12d9375413

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/opinio ... white-men/

Systemic racism in Republican Gerrymandering.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/10/04 ... ation/amp/

DocBarrister

The death penalty article is 20 years old. I am opposed to the death penalty (staunchly pro-life), so any application is bad. Blacks commit a disproportionate share of murders. Most of it is gang related. Why a gang member's life means less when sentencing is a travesty. Taking a life is taking a life.

The military article is interesting, but the DOD doesn't tolerate racism. These are experiences based on interpersonal interactions. Again, you won't find me saying racism doesn't exist. The Marine Corp piece is an editorial.

The gerrymandering article is misleading. 38 House seats and three African Americans is close to their percentage in the state, about 11%.

You can’t seriously be saying there is no systemic racism in death penalty sentencing, the U.S. Armed Forces, or in Republican Gerrymandering?

You would simply be lying.

DocBarrister

What about Planned Parenthood? Any comments on that? When talking about systemic racism and abortion, one must talk about that, right? Margret Sanger was a racist. 50% of black babies die in the womb due to this heinous act.

You are entitled to your religious beliefs.

Just don’t try to impose them on the rest of us. The United States is not a theocracy.

DocBarrister

It is not an opinion, it is fact and the fact is abortion is murder. Everyone knows it, but you worship at the altar of liberalism, which sadly, is a huge mental disorder. Don't you believe science, Doc? Life begins at conception. There are 2 genders as well. BELIEVE SCIENCE!!!

So, women who have had abortions are murderers? Their spouses and supportive family members, too? Should they be subject to the death penalty?

When a woman has a miscarriage, will they need to report that to the police and have the police and local D.A. determine whether it was really a miscarriage and not murder?

Are the couples who undergo IVF … are they also murderers?

I think you share more with the Taliban and the Ayatollahs of Iran than with people who cherish democracy. I’m just pleased that your views are extremist views shared by only a small cadre of reactionary theocrats.

DocBarrister

Yes
Yes
Yes
No

Ok … not sure it is safe to have someone like you on this forum.

DocBarrister

Aren't you vaccinated and wear masks all the time? What are you afraid of? Why do you resort to banning and censorship when you disagree with someone? That is fascist and mentally unstable. Take your mask off, breathe fresh air. It will all be okay. Well for me at least. As a JHU alum, stay out of Baltimore. It is a very dangerous city due to Democrat policies. God Bless and take care

[MDlaxfan76]

The notion that there isn’t any systemic racism against non-white Americans is so racist that it is strong evidence that such systemic racism exists.

DocBarrister

Please cite some examples for me. To me, systemic means from a system. The Jim Crow South was systemic. What system today can survive our sensitivity to racism if it were to carry on it's own form of racism? Maybe public schools, where inner city schools are keeping their minority students from reaching their full potential, and even then, it isn't codified in any laws. It's just the NEA protecting crappy teachers.

Throwing around terms like "racist", "fascist" and "Nazi" have diluted the meaning of the words to the point where it's like the teacher in "Charlie Brown". "Wah wah wah, a wah wah wah wah".

Too many examples to cite all. Just a few …

Systemic racism in the application of the death penalty.

https://www.aclu.org/other/race-and-death-penalty

Systemic racism in the U.S. Armed Forces.

https://apnews.com/article/us-military- ... 12d9375413

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/opinio ... white-men/

Systemic racism in Republican Gerrymandering.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/10/04 ... ation/amp/

DocBarrister

The death penalty article is 20 years old. I am opposed to the death penalty (staunchly pro-life), so any application is bad. Blacks commit a disproportionate share of murders. Most of it is gang related. Why a gang member's life means less when sentencing is a travesty. Taking a life is taking a life.

The military article is interesting, but the DOD doesn't tolerate racism. These are experiences based on interpersonal interactions. Again, you won't find me saying racism doesn't exist. The Marine Corp piece is an editorial.

The gerrymandering article is misleading. 38 House seats and three African Americans is close to their percentage in the state, about 11%.

I don't recall your schooling ( ) but 3 of 38 is 7.9%, and AA's are 11.8% of the state population. So, only 2/3 of the representation they'd otherwise be expected to have...but that's with the old map; bad enough...but now the math has it that only 3.2% of the jurisdictions will have a black majority.

And yes, this was entirely on purpose.

[DocBarrister]

The notion that there isn’t any systemic racism against non-white Americans is so racist that it is strong evidence that such systemic racism exists.

DocBarrister

Please cite some examples for me. To me, systemic means from a system. The Jim Crow South was systemic. What system today can survive our sensitivity to racism if it were to carry on it's own form of racism? Maybe public schools, where inner city schools are keeping their minority students from reaching their full potential, and even then, it isn't codified in any laws. It's just the NEA protecting crappy teachers.

Throwing around terms like "racist", "fascist" and "Nazi" have diluted the meaning of the words to the point where it's like the teacher in "Charlie Brown". "Wah wah wah, a wah wah wah wah".

Too many examples to cite all. Just a few …

Systemic racism in the application of the death penalty.

https://www.aclu.org/other/race-and-death-penalty

Systemic racism in the U.S. Armed Forces.

https://apnews.com/article/us-military- ... 12d9375413

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/opinio ... white-men/

Systemic racism in Republican Gerrymandering.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/10/04 ... ation/amp/

DocBarrister

The death penalty article is 20 years old. I am opposed to the death penalty (staunchly pro-life), so any application is bad. Blacks commit a disproportionate share of murders. Most of it is gang related. Why a gang member's life means less when sentencing is a travesty. Taking a life is taking a life.

The military article is interesting, but the DOD doesn't tolerate racism. These are experiences based on interpersonal interactions. Again, you won't find me saying racism doesn't exist. The Marine Corp piece is an editorial.

The gerrymandering article is misleading. 38 House seats and three African Americans is close to their percentage in the state, about 11%.

You can’t seriously be saying there is no systemic racism in death penalty sentencing, the U.S. Armed Forces, or in Republican Gerrymandering?

You would simply be lying.

DocBarrister

What about Planned Parenthood? Any comments on that? When talking about systemic racism and abortion, one must talk about that, right? Margret Sanger was a racist. 50% of black babies die in the womb due to this heinous act.

You are entitled to your religious beliefs.

Just don’t try to impose them on the rest of us. The United States is not a theocracy.

DocBarrister

It is not an opinion, it is fact and the fact is abortion is murder. Everyone knows it, but you worship at the altar of liberalism, which sadly, is a huge mental disorder. Don't you believe science, Doc? Life begins at conception. There are 2 genders as well. BELIEVE SCIENCE!!!

So, women who have had abortions are murderers? Their spouses and supportive family members, too? Should they be subject to the death penalty?

When a woman has a miscarriage, will they need to report that to the police and have the police and local D.A. determine whether it was really a miscarriage and not murder?

Are the couples who undergo IVF … are they also murderers?

I think you share more with the Taliban and the Ayatollahs of Iran than with people who cherish democracy. I’m just pleased that your views are extremist views shared by only a small cadre of reactionary theocrats.

DocBarrister

Yes
Yes
Yes
No

Ok … not sure it is safe to have someone like you on this forum.

DocBarrister

Aren't you vaccinated and wear masks all the time? What are you afraid of? Why do you resort to banning and censorship when you disagree with someone? That is fascist and mentally unstable. Take your mask off, breathe fresh air. It will all be okay. Well for me at least. As a JHU alum, stay out of Baltimore. It is a very dangerous city due to Democrat policies. God Bless and take care

You would subject women who have had abortions to the death penalty. One out of four women in the United States … about 40 million women, have had abortions. There are no statutes of limitations for first degree murder.

You are proposing subjecting 40 million American women to the death penalty for murder.

That doesn’t even include all the millions of women who have undergone IVF treatment.

In other words … you are proposing committing genocide on a scale that not even Hitler achieved because of your extreme personal and religious beliefs.

And you’re asking what concerns me about you?

Just my opinion, but I’m not sure someone like you belongs on our little forum. God help us if you decide to act on your extremist beliefs.

But as I have said, it’s not my forum.

I’m out of here ….

DocBarrister

[MDlaxfan76]

The notion that there isn’t any systemic racism against non-white Americans is so racist that it is strong evidence that such systemic racism exists.

DocBarrister

Please cite some examples for me. To me, systemic means from a system. The Jim Crow South was systemic. What system today can survive our sensitivity to racism if it were to carry on it's own form of racism? Maybe public schools, where inner city schools are keeping their minority students from reaching their full potential, and even then, it isn't codified in any laws. It's just the NEA protecting crappy teachers.

Throwing around terms like "racist", "fascist" and "Nazi" have diluted the meaning of the words to the point where it's like the teacher in "Charlie Brown". "Wah wah wah, a wah wah wah wah".

Too many examples to cite all. Just a few …

Systemic racism in the application of the death penalty.

https://www.aclu.org/other/race-and-death-penalty

Systemic racism in the U.S. Armed Forces.

https://apnews.com/article/us-military- ... 12d9375413

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/opinio ... white-men/

Systemic racism in Republican Gerrymandering.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/10/04 ... ation/amp/

DocBarrister

The death penalty article is 20 years old. I am opposed to the death penalty (staunchly pro-life), so any application is bad. Blacks commit a disproportionate share of murders. Most of it is gang related. Why a gang member's life means less when sentencing is a travesty. Taking a life is taking a life.

The military article is interesting, but the DOD doesn't tolerate racism. These are experiences based on interpersonal interactions. Again, you won't find me saying racism doesn't exist. The Marine Corp piece is an editorial.

The gerrymandering article is misleading. 38 House seats and three African Americans is close to their percentage in the state, about 11%.

You can’t seriously be saying there is no systemic racism in death penalty sentencing, the U.S. Armed Forces, or in Republican Gerrymandering?

You would simply be lying.

DocBarrister

What about Planned Parenthood? Any comments on that? When talking about systemic racism and abortion, one must talk about that, right? Margret Sanger was a racist. 50% of black babies die in the womb due to this heinous act.

You are entitled to your religious beliefs.

Just don’t try to impose them on the rest of us. The United States is not a theocracy.

DocBarrister

It is not an opinion, it is fact and the fact is abortion is murder. Everyone knows it, but you worship at the altar of liberalism, which sadly, is a huge mental disorder. Don't you believe science, Doc? Life begins at conception. There are 2 genders as well. BELIEVE SCIENCE!!!

So, women who have had abortions are murderers? Their spouses and supportive family members, too? Should they be subject to the death penalty?

When a woman has a miscarriage, will they need to report that to the police and have the police and local D.A. determine whether it was really a miscarriage and not murder?

Are the couples who undergo IVF … are they also murderers?

I think you share more with the Taliban and the Ayatollahs of Iran than with people who cherish democracy. I’m just pleased that your views are extremist views shared by only a small cadre of reactionary theocrats.

DocBarrister

Yes
Yes
Yes
No

Ok … not sure it is safe to have someone like you on this forum.

DocBarrister

Aren't you vaccinated and wear masks all the time? What are you afraid of? Why do you resort to banning and censorship when you disagree with someone? That is fascist and mentally unstable. Take your mask off, breathe fresh air. It will all be okay. Well for me at least. As a JHU alum, stay out of Baltimore. It is a very dangerous city due to Democrat policies. God Bless and take care

You would subject women who have had abortions to the death penalty. One out of four women in the United States … about 40 million women, have had abortions. There are no statutes of limitations for first degree murder.

You are proposing subjecting 40 million American women to the death penalty for murder.

That doesn’t even include all the millions of women who have undergone IVF treatment.

In other words … you are proposing committing genocide on a scale that not even Hitler achieved because of your extreme personal and religious beliefs.

And you’re asking what concerns me about you?

Just my opinion, but I’m not sure someone like you belongs on our little forum. God help us if you decide to act on your extremist beliefs.

But as I have said, it’s not my forum.

I’m out of here ….

DocBarrister

Just a reminder that the whole purpose of his trolling, under whatever moniker he chooses, is to inflame, not to discuss.

[Farfromgeneva]

The notion that there isn’t any systemic racism against non-white Americans is so racist that it is strong evidence that such systemic racism exists.

DocBarrister

Well you take an easy position to hold and use insane “logic”, or whatever one would describe this as, and pollute it.

Some kind of prison rape love child of Jack Handy and Yogi Berra.

[Farfromgeneva]

The notion that there isn’t any systemic racism against non-white Americans is so racist that it is strong evidence that such systemic racism exists.

DocBarrister

Please cite some examples for me. To me, systemic means from a system. The Jim Crow South was systemic. What system today can survive our sensitivity to racism if it were to carry on it's own form of racism? Maybe public schools, where inner city schools are keeping their minority students from reaching their full potential, and even then, it isn't codified in any laws. It's just the NEA protecting crappy teachers.

Throwing around terms like "racist", "fascist" and "Nazi" have diluted the meaning of the words to the point where it's like the teacher in "Charlie Brown". "Wah wah wah, a wah wah wah wah".

Ever heard of redlining? Are you familiar with the power of compounding?

Redlining: (happen to know execs at Trustmark)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice- ... -redlining

Housing wealth Gap:

https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/mappin ... ership-gap

Home sales px historically, federal reserve:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MSPUS

And lastly, a RocNation genealogy on media and particularly Walt Disney historically in cultivating culture here:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RM7lw0Ovzq0

[Farfromgeneva]

The notion that there isn’t any systemic racism against non-white Americans is so racist that it is strong evidence that such systemic racism exists.

DocBarrister

Please cite some examples for me. To me, systemic means from a system. The Jim Crow South was systemic. What system today can survive our sensitivity to racism if it were to carry on it's own form of racism? Maybe public schools, where inner city schools are keeping their minority students from reaching their full potential, and even then, it isn't codified in any laws. It's just the NEA protecting crappy teachers.

Throwing around terms like "racist", "fascist" and "Nazi" have diluted the meaning of the words to the point where it's like the teacher in "Charlie Brown". "Wah wah wah, a wah wah wah wah".

You mean what was legal. As for systemic, pick one or these synonyms:

https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/anoth ... temic.html

Working on how to creatively use this:

Adjective ▲
Relating to or forming part of the structure of a building or other item
structural constitutional

constructional formational
configurational organisationalUK
organizationalUS tectonic
anatomic anatomical
architectural basic
constructural essential
formalistic formative
fundamental important
organic skeletal
underlying functional
material bodily
body

Consider this like open source code, all suggestions are welcome.

[Farfromgeneva]

Need to learn how to work the land better:

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/ ... sda-497876

Just shiftless.

In fairness the USDA loan program is exploited like all govt loan programs so you have a lot of middle market commercial borrowers which could be back but more like the dude at Ashford Hospitality Trust with his Johnson Hotel School MBA loading up on PPP debt or PE owned hospital operators using the program more than generic farmers of any color.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Need to learn how to work the land better:

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/ ... sda-497876

Just shiftless.

In fairness the USDA loan program is exploited like all govt loan programs so you have a lot of middle market commercial borrowers which could be back but more like the dude at Ashford Hospitality Trust with his Johnson Hotel School MBA loading up on PPP debt or PE owned hospital operators using the program more than generic farmers of any color.

We did a development deal a few years ago that was enhanced with a USDA guarantee. It was a market in a city.

[old salt]

I didn't accuse the BP agents of racism, indeed I am willing to assume they didn't have any racist intent at all and said so above... The agents behaved with the same tactics they'd have used with cattle, the whirling reins were an intimidation...doesn't mean that they were racist, but clearly there's a long history of those in power indeed treating those not in power brutally via horseback...you and I may not be particularly sensitive to those visual analogies, but I can understand why someone else would be.

The agents were using the same tactics any mounted police would use -- blocking the movement of the crowd with their horses. In this case, they were cutting horses which respond to the twirling reins. Crowd control is herding people. Get over it.

[Farfromgeneva]

The notion that there isn’t any systemic racism against non-white Americans is so racist that it is strong evidence that such systemic racism exists.

DocBarrister

Please cite some examples for me. To me, systemic means from a system. The Jim Crow South was systemic. What system today can survive our sensitivity to racism if it were to carry on it's own form of racism? Maybe public schools, where inner city schools are keeping their minority students from reaching their full potential, and even then, it isn't codified in any laws. It's just the NEA protecting crappy teachers.

Throwing around terms like "racist", "fascist" and "Nazi" have diluted the meaning of the words to the point where it's like the teacher in "Charlie Brown". "Wah wah wah, a wah wah wah wah".

Too many examples to cite all. Just a few …

Systemic racism in the application of the death penalty.

https://www.aclu.org/other/race-and-death-penalty

Systemic racism in the U.S. Armed Forces.

https://apnews.com/article/us-military- ... 12d9375413

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/opinio ... white-men/

Systemic racism in Republican Gerrymandering.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/10/04 ... ation/amp/

DocBarrister

The death penalty article is 20 years old. I am opposed to the death penalty (staunchly pro-life), so any application is bad. Blacks commit a disproportionate share of murders. Most of it is gang related. Why a gang member's life means less when sentencing is a travesty. Taking a life is taking a life.

The military article is interesting, but the DOD doesn't tolerate racism. These are experiences based on interpersonal interactions. Again, you won't find me saying racism doesn't exist. The Marine Corp piece is an editorial.

The gerrymandering article is misleading. 38 House seats and three African Americans is close to their percentage in the state, about 11%.

Everyone knows that black people are genetically more violent.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/21 ... to-murder/

Straight gangbangers

https://revengeofthenerds.fandom.com/wiki/Lamar_Latrell

[Typical Lax Dad]

I didn't accuse the BP agents of racism, indeed I am willing to assume they didn't have any racist intent at all and said so above... The agents behaved with the same tactics they'd have used with cattle, the whirling reins were an intimidation...doesn't mean that they were racist, but clearly there's a long history of those in power indeed treating those not in power brutally via horseback...you and I may not be particularly sensitive to those visual analogies, but I can understand why someone else would be.

The agents were using the same tactics any mounted police would use -- blocking the movement of the crowd with their horses. In this case, they were cutting horses which respond to the twirling reins. Crowd control is herding people. Get over it.

I can’t stop laughing . You see her face??!!

[Typical Lax Dad]

About the funniest thing I have seen in a long time….. I remember seeing it when I was young. The black guy as a museum relic was almost as funny!

[DocBarrister]

The notion that there isn’t any systemic racism against non-white Americans is so racist that it is strong evidence that such systemic racism exists.

DocBarrister

Please cite some examples for me. To me, systemic means from a system. The Jim Crow South was systemic. What system today can survive our sensitivity to racism if it were to carry on it's own form of racism? Maybe public schools, where inner city schools are keeping their minority students from reaching their full potential, and even then, it isn't codified in any laws. It's just the NEA protecting crappy teachers.

Throwing around terms like "racist", "fascist" and "Nazi" have diluted the meaning of the words to the point where it's like the teacher in "Charlie Brown". "Wah wah wah, a wah wah wah wah".

Too many examples to cite all. Just a few …

Systemic racism in the application of the death penalty.

https://www.aclu.org/other/race-and-death-penalty

Systemic racism in the U.S. Armed Forces.

https://apnews.com/article/us-military- ... 12d9375413

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/opinio ... white-men/

Systemic racism in Republican Gerrymandering.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/10/04 ... ation/amp/

DocBarrister

The death penalty article is 20 years old. I am opposed to the death penalty (staunchly pro-life), so any application is bad. Blacks commit a disproportionate share of murders. Most of it is gang related. Why a gang member's life means less when sentencing is a travesty. Taking a life is taking a life.

The military article is interesting, but the DOD doesn't tolerate racism. These are experiences based on interpersonal interactions. Again, you won't find me saying racism doesn't exist. The Marine Corp piece is an editorial.

The gerrymandering article is misleading. 38 House seats and three African Americans is close to their percentage in the state, about 11%.

You can’t seriously be saying there is no systemic racism in death penalty sentencing, the U.S. Armed Forces, or in Republican Gerrymandering?

You would simply be lying.

DocBarrister

What about Planned Parenthood? Any comments on that? When talking about systemic racism and abortion, one must talk about that, right? Margret Sanger was a racist. 50% of black babies die in the womb due to this heinous act.

You are entitled to your religious beliefs.

Just don’t try to impose them on the rest of us. The United States is not a theocracy.

DocBarrister

It is not an opinion, it is fact and the fact is abortion is murder. Everyone knows it, but you worship at the altar of liberalism, which sadly, is a huge mental disorder. Don't you believe science, Doc? Life begins at conception. There are 2 genders as well. BELIEVE SCIENCE!!!

So, women who have had abortions are murderers? Their spouses and supportive family members, too? Should they be subject to the death penalty?

When a woman has a miscarriage, will they need to report that to the police and have the police and local D.A. determine whether it was really a miscarriage and not murder?

Are the couples who undergo IVF … are they also murderers?

I think you share more with the Taliban and the Ayatollahs of Iran than with people who cherish democracy. I’m just pleased that your views are extremist views shared by only a small cadre of reactionary theocrats.

DocBarrister

Yes
Yes
Yes
No

Ok … not sure it is safe to have someone like you on this forum.

DocBarrister

Aren't you vaccinated and wear masks all the time? What are you afraid of? Why do you resort to banning and censorship when you disagree with someone? That is fascist and mentally unstable. Take your mask off, breathe fresh air. It will all be okay. Well for me at least. As a JHU alum, stay out of Baltimore. It is a very dangerous city due to Democrat policies. God Bless and take care

You would subject women who have had abortions to the death penalty. One out of four women in the United States … about 40 million women, have had abortions. There are no statutes of limitations for first degree murder.

You are proposing subjecting 40 million American women to the death penalty for murder.

That doesn’t even include all the millions of women who have undergone IVF treatment.

In other words … you are proposing committing genocide on a scale that not even Hitler achieved because of your extreme personal and religious beliefs.

And you’re asking what concerns me about you?

Just my opinion, but I’m not sure someone like you belongs on our little forum. God help us if you decide to act on your extremist beliefs.

But as I have said, it’s not my forum.

I’m out of here ….

DocBarrister

Just a reminder that the whole purpose of his trolling, under whatever moniker he chooses, is to inflame, not to discuss.

Doesn’t mean the guy isn’t potentially dangerous.

Extreme views.

Conspiracy theory adherent (associated with psychotic-type experiences in some studies).

E.g., https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 3621009436

Considers tens of millions of women (and their spouses or partners) to be murderers.

Those kinds of people are often considered “harmless” … until they’re not.

The actual risk from him is probably very low … but I’m not going to bother engaging with him anymore.

If you’re simply assuming he’s a harmless troll, I would reconsider. He displays a toxic combination of traits that merit at least some modicum of caution.

Anyway, I have a pile of work to finish ….

DocBarrister

[DocBarrister]

The notion that there isn’t any systemic racism against non-white Americans is so racist that it is strong evidence that such systemic racism exists.

DocBarrister

Well you take an easy position to hold and use insane “logic”, or whatever one would describe this as, and pollute it.

Some kind of prison rape love child of Jack Handy and Yogi Berra.

Let me know when you write something coherent.

DocBarrister

[Brooklyn]

racial housing gap remains a big problem in the Twinkie cities and nearby suburban areas:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr-1RQH39eE

[MDlaxfan76]

I didn't accuse the BP agents of racism, indeed I am willing to assume they didn't have any racist intent at all and said so above... The agents behaved with the same tactics they'd have used with cattle, the whirling reins were an intimidation...doesn't mean that they were racist, but clearly there's a long history of those in power indeed treating those not in power brutally via horseback...you and I may not be particularly sensitive to those visual analogies, but I can understand why someone else would be.

The agents were using the same tactics any mounted police would use -- blocking the movement of the crowd with their horses. In this case, they were cutting horses which respond to the twirling reins. Crowd control is herding people. Get over it.

Nope, the whirling reins have nothing to do with control of the horse they are riding. It’s used to herd animals.

I suggest you get over it.

As I said, I’m willing to assume they had no racist intent and simply chalk it up to exercise of power.

[MDlaxfan76]

The notion that there isn’t any systemic racism against non-white Americans is so racist that it is strong evidence that such systemic racism exists.

DocBarrister

Please cite some examples for me. To me, systemic means from a system. The Jim Crow South was systemic. What system today can survive our sensitivity to racism if it were to carry on it's own form of racism? Maybe public schools, where inner city schools are keeping their minority students from reaching their full potential, and even then, it isn't codified in any laws. It's just the NEA protecting crappy teachers.

Throwing around terms like "racist", "fascist" and "Nazi" have diluted the meaning of the words to the point where it's like the teacher in "Charlie Brown". "Wah wah wah, a wah wah wah wah".

Too many examples to cite all. Just a few …

Systemic racism in the application of the death penalty.

https://www.aclu.org/other/race-and-death-penalty

Systemic racism in the U.S. Armed Forces.

https://apnews.com/article/us-military- ... 12d9375413

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/opinio ... white-men/

Systemic racism in Republican Gerrymandering.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/10/04 ... ation/amp/

DocBarrister

The death penalty article is 20 years old. I am opposed to the death penalty (staunchly pro-life), so any application is bad. Blacks commit a disproportionate share of murders. Most of it is gang related. Why a gang member's life means less when sentencing is a travesty. Taking a life is taking a life.

The military article is interesting, but the DOD doesn't tolerate racism. These are experiences based on interpersonal interactions. Again, you won't find me saying racism doesn't exist. The Marine Corp piece is an editorial.

The gerrymandering article is misleading. 38 House seats and three African Americans is close to their percentage in the state, about 11%.

You can’t seriously be saying there is no systemic racism in death penalty sentencing, the U.S. Armed Forces, or in Republican Gerrymandering?

You would simply be lying.

DocBarrister

What about Planned Parenthood? Any comments on that? When talking about systemic racism and abortion, one must talk about that, right? Margret Sanger was a racist. 50% of black babies die in the womb due to this heinous act.

You are entitled to your religious beliefs.

Just don’t try to impose them on the rest of us. The United States is not a theocracy.

DocBarrister

It is not an opinion, it is fact and the fact is abortion is murder. Everyone knows it, but you worship at the altar of liberalism, which sadly, is a huge mental disorder. Don't you believe science, Doc? Life begins at conception. There are 2 genders as well. BELIEVE SCIENCE!!!

So, women who have had abortions are murderers? Their spouses and supportive family members, too? Should they be subject to the death penalty?

When a woman has a miscarriage, will they need to report that to the police and have the police and local D.A. determine whether it was really a miscarriage and not murder?

Are the couples who undergo IVF … are they also murderers?

I think you share more with the Taliban and the Ayatollahs of Iran than with people who cherish democracy. I’m just pleased that your views are extremist views shared by only a small cadre of reactionary theocrats.

DocBarrister

Yes
Yes
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No

Ok … not sure it is safe to have someone like you on this forum.

DocBarrister

Aren't you vaccinated and wear masks all the time? What are you afraid of? Why do you resort to banning and censorship when you disagree with someone? That is fascist and mentally unstable. Take your mask off, breathe fresh air. It will all be okay. Well for me at least. As a JHU alum, stay out of Baltimore. It is a very dangerous city due to Democrat policies. God Bless and take care

You would subject women who have had abortions to the death penalty. One out of four women in the United States … about 40 million women, have had abortions. There are no statutes of limitations for first degree murder.

You are proposing subjecting 40 million American women to the death penalty for murder.

That doesn’t even include all the millions of women who have undergone IVF treatment.

In other words … you are proposing committing genocide on a scale that not even Hitler achieved because of your extreme personal and religious beliefs.

And you’re asking what concerns me about you?

Just my opinion, but I’m not sure someone like you belongs on our little forum. God help us if you decide to act on your extremist beliefs.

But as I have said, it’s not my forum.

I’m out of here ….

DocBarrister

Just a reminder that the whole purpose of his trolling, under whatever moniker he chooses, is to inflame, not to discuss.

Doesn’t mean the guy isn’t potentially dangerous.

Extreme views.

Conspiracy theory adherent (associated with psychotic-type experiences in some studies).

E.g., https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 3621009436

Considers tens of millions of women (and their spouses or partners) to be murderers.

Those kinds of people are often considered “harmless” … until they’re not.

The actual risk from him is probably very low … but I’m not going to bother engaging with him anymore.

If you’re simply assuming he’s a harmless troll, I would reconsider. He displays a toxic combination of traits that merit at least some modicum of caution.

Anyway, I have a pile of work to finish ….

DocBarrister

Sorry; I should be more clear.
I don’t see him or this behavior “harmless” at all.
Even if he himself never turns to violence.

Just suggesting that engagement with this multi moniker troll feeds his jollies and is otherwise rarely productive.

[Farfromgeneva]

The notion that there isn’t any systemic racism against non-white Americans is so racist that it is strong evidence that such systemic racism exists.

DocBarrister

Please cite some examples for me. To me, systemic means from a system. The Jim Crow South was systemic. What system today can survive our sensitivity to racism if it were to carry on it's own form of racism? Maybe public schools, where inner city schools are keeping their minority students from reaching their full potential, and even then, it isn't codified in any laws. It's just the NEA protecting crappy teachers.

Throwing around terms like "racist", "fascist" and "Nazi" have diluted the meaning of the words to the point where it's like the teacher in "Charlie Brown". "Wah wah wah, a wah wah wah wah".

Too many examples to cite all. Just a few …

Systemic racism in the application of the death penalty.

https://www.aclu.org/other/race-and-death-penalty

Systemic racism in the U.S. Armed Forces.

https://apnews.com/article/us-military- ... 12d9375413

https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/opinio ... white-men/

Systemic racism in Republican Gerrymandering.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/10/04 ... ation/amp/

DocBarrister

The death penalty article is 20 years old. I am opposed to the death penalty (staunchly pro-life), so any application is bad. Blacks commit a disproportionate share of murders. Most of it is gang related. Why a gang member's life means less when sentencing is a travesty. Taking a life is taking a life.

The military article is interesting, but the DOD doesn't tolerate racism. These are experiences based on interpersonal interactions. Again, you won't find me saying racism doesn't exist. The Marine Corp piece is an editorial.

The gerrymandering article is misleading. 38 House seats and three African Americans is close to their percentage in the state, about 11%.

You can’t seriously be saying there is no systemic racism in death penalty sentencing, the U.S. Armed Forces, or in Republican Gerrymandering?

You would simply be lying.

DocBarrister

What about Planned Parenthood? Any comments on that? When talking about systemic racism and abortion, one must talk about that, right? Margret Sanger was a racist. 50% of black babies die in the womb due to this heinous act.

You are entitled to your religious beliefs.

Just don’t try to impose them on the rest of us. The United States is not a theocracy.

DocBarrister

And all of this time, I thought black women wanted more kids to collect a bigger welfare check.

Don’t forget white lesbians in collusion with the blacks!

https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/ ... -suv-crash

[Farfromgeneva]

Hey Ban-douchebag. Fixed it for ya:

50% of black babies [fathered by Herschel Walker] die in the womb due to this heinous act.

Admin -- feel free to ban me for calling Ban-dimwit a bad name. Since I'll just come right back in another persona like Ban-dummy does.

This is true, the “the fact that … is a tell..” that came out on Md from get it to the x sounds eerily similar as does the pattern of sliding in East and then doubling down further and further from truth and reality with increasing vitriol is a pattern I recognize 3-4x in the past two years. It’s very clear Bandito/PB/Essex at least are the same entity (hesitant to call it a person) and violates the point of having any consequences tied to community standards. This is, of course, the culture and mentality of such a thing to selfishly take from everyone for themselves anything that can be taken while complaining like a little girl with a skinned knee about everything, projecting and pointing fingers.

If it were my baby I’d take deep personal offense to guiding something only to have a singular person looking to destroy it intentionally. But that’s just me.