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cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:22 am

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 7:27 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 6:24 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:45 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:35 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:38 pm

Jumbo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:22 pm As I stated. This thread didn’t age well. It was started with the DNC worn out talking points that everything is Russian disinformation. That has been settled. The laptop is real. The Russians had nothing to do with it. Well. Maybe the Russians could be behind the thousands of dollars being deposited in Biden family bank accounts. But I don’t know that answer. And neither do you

You avoided his straightforward questions again.

Is this ignorance of the answers? try google.

Or is a tacit acceptance that the answers would embarrass your argument?

What is your point MD? This is the classic lose/lose scenario. No matter how the straightforward question been answered you would still whine and b***h and yelp like a puppy whose tail has been stepped on. Kudos to Jumbo...he didn't take your bait. That tells me alot right off the bat... he is a hell of a lot smarter than you are.

Jumbo knows the game & knows how to avoid the 'Vortex Zone'. If he hangs around long enough.....he'll get sucked in it.

+1 the score card is Jumbo 1, the other folks a big fat zero. Any time one of the FLP weeds on this forum whine about a poster not answering a " simple question" they are not interested in the answer. They are interested in trying to embarrass the person they resent. I applaud Jumbo again for knowing their little bullchit game and refusing to play. Bravo Jumbo bravo.

Yup, the answer should embarrass him as it blows a hole in his “point “.

It wouldn't matter how he answered the simple question. The point of the question was for you and your fellow pit vipers to attack whatever answer he posted. Jumbo is obviously much smarter than you old sod. All you can do now is what you do best...whine and cry...

When someone runs away and hides when asked a straightforward question or questions, they lose all credibility.

What an authoritarian, power trip position to hold MD....that, right there, is the definition of cyber bullying.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:38 am What an authoritarian, power trip position to hold MD....that, right there, is the definition of cyber bullying.

+1 I was going to respond to MD but you already nailed it YA. MD was pizzed off because Jumbo didn't take the bait. A new golden rule for this forum is this. Anytime a FLP liberal tries to set you up with a loaded question, they are not interested in your response. They are only looking to try and embarrass and humiliate you with their stupid and ignorant FLP agenda. The end game is to try and put the individual on the defensive. When you don't play their stupid little game people like MD get all bent out of shape. The moral of the story is this...when a FLP liberal asks you a loaded question, simply ignore it and keep moving along to more productive things.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:38 am What an authoritarian, power trip position to hold MD....that, right there, is the definition of cyber bullying.

this is a bloody discussion board, youth.

Jumbo was asked straightforward questions the same as any other participant regularly receives. He had all sorts of possible choices to make.

1) He could admit he didn't know the answer, and use google to search for more info before responding. And then address it honestly based on what he found. An honest discussion.

2) if he knew the answer, he could try to reconcile it with his (MAGA) narrative OR admit his narrative didn't make sense. An honest discussion.

3) He chose to ignore the questions.

Since when did we conservatives, youth, decide not to hold ourselves accountable for our choices? When did that happen?

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:50 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:38 am What an authoritarian, power trip position to hold MD....that, right there, is the definition of cyber bullying.

+1 I was going to respond to MD but you already nailed it YA. MD was pizzed off because Jumbo didn't take the bait. A new golden rule for this forum is this. Anytime a FLP liberal tries to set you up with a loaded question, they are not interested in your response. They are only looking to try and embarrass and humiliate you with their stupid and ignorant FLP agenda. The end game is to try and put the individual on the defensive. When you don't play their stupid little game people like MD get all bent out of shape. The moral of the story is this...when a FLP liberal asks you a loaded question, simply ignore it and keep moving along to more productive things.

"a loaded question"

If the honest answer reveals the flaws in an argument, the only reason to "not take the bait" is because you don't want to have an honest discussion. Don't want to actually address the issue honestly.

Frankly, I'm not interested in making partisan 'hit' points, nor nihilist avoidance like you, I'm only interested in an honest discussion.

And I sure as heck ain't "an FLP liberal"...

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:03 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:14 pm

old salt wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 10:30 pm

njbill wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 5:35 pm Again, it wasn’t Hunter’s laptop. You guys just won’t give up on us. How come no one ever responds to my points about fingerprints, DNA, and Hunter being in California when the laptop was dropped off at the blind guy’s shop in Delaware?

Why can't I find any other source making that claim ? If it can be proven that Hunter was in CA & not DE when the laptop was dropped off, Abbe Lowell would be making that claim in his letters to the US & DE DoJ, ...& to every media outlet that would listen.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/02/02/ ... stigation/

So sad…..this is what you have been reduced to? Wild goose chases and conspiracy theories?

I don't find Bill's contentions to be wild goose chases or conspiracy theories. I want to know more about them.

Don't worry about it. Keep your head buried.

And yet you mocked me when I tried to tell you about the first steps that led to NJ's assertion.

I tried to tell you that the media has not EVER had the alleged laptop. Same for the House Committee. BOTH of them are working from the stuff that Giuliani CLAIMS is a COPY of Hunter's laptop.

Fellas-----that ain't the same thing as having Hunter's laptop. I have posts sent from OS, Cradle, YA, and other posters.....is that the same thing as having your entire computer in my physical possession. NO. It's NOT the same thing.

THAT is why I make fun of those who claim that folks were wrong to doubt that this was Hunter's laptop, or Intel to tell the world that this has all the telltale signs of Russian disinformation.

THE REASON they said that, is that no one had access to the actual freaking computer to verify Giuliani's claim. A perfectly reasonable conclusion.

And all I'd have to do is flip the party affiliation of the person making the claim, and OS and YA would understand this point perfectly.

A fan: "Hey Hillary Clinton claims she has Trump's laptop, and here's a couple of things from it that make him look bad"

Old Salt "can we see the actual laptop".

A fan "no, you have to take Hillary's word for it. Oh, and btw, the election is in two weeks. Do you believe Hillary's claim".

Old Salt.........take a wild guess as to what his response to that question would be. Ya think Old Salt would take HIllary's word for it?

Oh yeah, totally. Old Salt would treat Hillary's word as sacrosanct. FFS, I wouldn't believe a word Hillary said, either.


Get it now? Or do I need NJbill to deliver this message? The media never had access to the ACTUAL laptop to confirm it's authentic.

So to answer Jumbo's question: this thread has aged just fine. The media and anyone who isn't a Republican rightly doesn't believe a word Giuliani uttered. Just as I'd expect Jumbo and anyone else to not take Hillary Clinton's word for anything, either. These are politicians that are trying to get into power, and will say anything to get it.

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And NJ is right----no one from the FBI has gone on the record to confirm that that's Hunter's laptop.

If you listen to the IRS WB's----they only received PIECES of Hunter's info, NEVER the entire laptop. This speaks to NJBill's point------yep, the FBI has NEVER gone on record as telling us "this is Hunter's physical laptop, and the entirety is confirmed to be his, with no hacking, and no additional information added, and none deleted".

This lawsuit? How hilarious would it be to find that yes, Hunter's laptop was hacked, and/or this isn't Hunter's actual laptop.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:50 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:38 am What an authoritarian, power trip position to hold MD....that, right there, is the definition of cyber bullying.

+1 I was going to respond to MD but you already nailed it YA. MD was pizzed off because Jumbo didn't take the bait. A new golden rule for this forum is this. Anytime a FLP liberal tries to set you up with a loaded question, they are not interested in your response. They are only looking to try and embarrass and humiliate you with their stupid and ignorant FLP agenda. The end game is to try and put the individual on the defensive.

No. The point is to get you cats to understand that:

1. the media has NEVER had the physical laptop. Not the NYPost. Not the NYTimes or WaPo. All they have been given is what is CLAIMED to be A COPY of Hunter's laptop. To this very day. So how the F are they going to confirm this is Hunter's actual laptop.

2. Yep, they've been able to independently verify many emails and the like. That's not what we're discussing here. But again, verifying emails is NOT the same thing as verifying that this is Hunter's physical laptop, which is what Jumbo and others are claiming. Sorry fellas, you're factually incorrect. Digest this fact, and move on.

3. And this does not rule out what NJBill is saying. If I'm a hacker, I can buy a laptop, hack someone else's computer via the internet, and upload someo of the contents to this new computer. I can add things, subtract things, edit things, and everything in between.

4. This lawsuit will get to the bottom of this. And man, are some of you gonna have some MORE crow to eat if NJBIll turns out to be right.

5. I say "more" because you guys never caught on to the FACT that Giulani was playing you in late Oct of 2020, by making you think that the NYTimes and Twitter had access to Hunter's laptop and could verify Giuliani's claims...when in reality, NONE OF THEM DID.

Which is why no one believed Giuliani's claims. Recall, the NYPost writers didn't put their names on the story because they didn't believe Giuliani either, and had no freaking way of fact checking Giuliani's claims.

a fan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:59 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:50 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:38 am What an authoritarian, power trip position to hold MD....that, right there, is the definition of cyber bullying.

+1 I was going to respond to MD but you already nailed it YA. MD was pizzed off because Jumbo didn't take the bait. A new golden rule for this forum is this. Anytime a FLP liberal tries to set you up with a loaded question, they are not interested in your response. They are only looking to try and embarrass and humiliate you with their stupid and ignorant FLP agenda. The end game is to try and put the individual on the defensive.

No. The point is to get you cats to understand that:

1. the media has NEVER had the physical laptop. Not the NYPost. Not the NYTimes or WaPo. All they have been given is what is CLAIMED to be A COPY of Hunter's laptop. To this very day. So how the F are they going to confirm this is Hunter's actual laptop.

2. Yep, they've been able to independently verify many emails and the like. That's not what we're discussing here. But again, verifying emails is NOT the same thing as verifying that this is Hunter's physical laptop, which is what Jumbo and others are claiming. Sorry fellas, you're factually incorrect. Digest this fact, and move on.

3. And this does not rule out what NJBill is saying. If I'm a hacker, I can buy a laptop, hack someone else's computer via the internet, and upload someo of the contents to this new computer. I can add things, subtract things, edit things, and everything in between.

4. This lawsuit will get to the bottom of this. And man, are some of you gonna have some MORE crow to eat if NJBIll turns out to be right.

5. I say "more" because you guys never caught on to the FACT that Giulani was playing you in late Oct of 2020, by making you think that the NYTimes and Twitter had access to Hunter's laptop and could verify Giuliani's claims...when in reality, NONE OF THEM DID.

Which is why no one believed Giuliani's claims. Recall, the NYPost writers didn't put their names on the story because they didn't believe Giuliani either, and had no freaking way of fact checking Giuliani's claims.

Rudy Giuliani isn’t trustworthy.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:38 am What an authoritarian, power trip position to hold MD....that, right there, is the definition of cyber bullying.

Well wait Dmac made some accusations to me because I didn’t respond to him when he demanded a response as I checked like a day or so later. You going to apply that broadly or just in isolation as deemed useful and fit for specific purposes?

Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:02 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:38 am What an authoritarian, power trip position to hold MD....that, right there, is the definition of cyber bullying.

Well wait Dmac made some accusations to me because I didn’t respond to him when he demanded a response as I checked like a day or so later. You going to apply that broadly or just in isolation as deemed useful and fit for specific purposes?

mmm, just not being around to see a question is quite different from purposely avoiding answering a straight question because one doesn't like what the answer reveals about the logic of one's prior statements; in this case, the poster responded multiple times but avoided the direct questions...it's a darn discussion board for cripesakes and youth is claiming "authoritarian" and "cyber bullying" because someone is getting called out for avoiding an actual discussion after making some pretty trolling statements...

None of us on here are 100% right all the time! speaking personally, I want my views, my logic, my understanding of 'facts' to be challenged...and if I find I'm mistaken about something, all the better!

a fan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:59 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:50 am

youthathletics wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:38 am What an authoritarian, power trip position to hold MD....that, right there, is the definition of cyber bullying.

+1 I was going to respond to MD but you already nailed it YA. MD was pizzed off because Jumbo didn't take the bait. A new golden rule for this forum is this. Anytime a FLP liberal tries to set you up with a loaded question, they are not interested in your response. They are only looking to try and embarrass and humiliate you with their stupid and ignorant FLP agenda. The end game is to try and put the individual on the defensive.

No. The point is to get you cats to understand that:

1. the media has NEVER had the physical laptop. Not the NYPost. Not the NYTimes or WaPo. All they have been given is what is CLAIMED to be A COPY of Hunter's laptop. To this very day. So how the F are they going to confirm this is Hunter's actual laptop.

2. Yep, they've been able to independently verify many emails and the like. That's not what we're discussing here. But again, verifying emails is NOT the same thing as verifying that this is Hunter's physical laptop, which is what Jumbo and others are claiming. Sorry fellas, you're factually incorrect. Digest this fact, and move on.

3. And this does not rule out what NJBill is saying. If I'm a hacker, I can buy a laptop, hack someone else's computer via the internet, and upload someo of the contents to this new computer. I can add things, subtract things, edit things, and everything in between.

4. This lawsuit will get to the bottom of this. And man, are some of you gonna have some MORE crow to eat if NJBIll turns out to be right.

5. I say "more" because you guys never caught on to the FACT that Giulani was playing you in late Oct of 2020, by making you think that the NYTimes and Twitter had access to Hunter's laptop and could verify Giuliani's claims...when in reality, NONE OF THEM DID.

Which is why no one believed Giuliani's claims. Recall, the NYPost writers didn't put their names on the story because they didn't believe Giuliani either, and had no freaking way of fact checking Giuliani's claims.

...who cares ? The verified evidence is what matters. Your "argument" is a diversion & distraction.
No matter what comes out that's independently verified or from other sources, you'll try to cast doubt upon it.
Have you acknowledged yet that the Steele dossier was a fake, paid for by the Clinton campaign ?

https://nypost.com/2023/06/22/fbi-verif ... y-shapley/
FBI ‘verified’ authenticity of Hunter Biden’s abandoned laptop in November 2019: IRS whistleblower
June 22, 2023

WASHINGTON — The FBI “verified” the authenticity of Hunter Biden’s abandoned laptop in November 2019 and a federal computer expert assessed “it was not manipulated in any way,” IRS supervisory agent Gary Shapley told Congress in explosive testimony released Thursday.

Investigators probing President Biden’s son for tax fraud and other crimes were not given full access to the laptop’s contents, however, Shapley told the House Ways and Means Committee during his May 26 deposition.

“The computer guy said that they could do a CSV list that shows when everything was created … the whole discussion was about can we rely on this information on the laptop, is it Hunter Biden’s? And their opinion was, it was, and it was not manipulated in any way,” he said.

Shapley confirmed key details in the chronology of the laptop, whose existence was first reported by The Post in October 2020 but dismissed as a “Russian plant” by then-presidential candidate Joe Biden.

“In October 2019, the FBI became aware that a repair shop had a laptop allegedly belonging to Hunter Biden and that the laptop might contain evidence of a crime. The FBI verified its authenticity in November of 2019 by matching the device number against Hunter Biden’s Apple iCloud ID,” Shapley said.

The laptop’s contents linked Joe Biden to his son’s dealings, including in China and Ukraine — contradicting his public claims he never discussed business with his son Hunter or brother James Biden.

Despite the FBI’s internal corroboration, 51 former US intelligence agency leaders signed a pre-election letter saying that the laptop had “all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.”

Most news outlets ignored the laptop’s contents until well after Biden won the 2020 election, with the Washington Post and New York Times saying only in March 2022 that they had confirmed the authenticity of files.

But behind the scenes, “when the FBI took possession of the device in December 2019, they notified the IRS that it likely contained evidence of tax crimes,” Shapley said.

Shapley, who has worked at the tax agency for 14 years, supervised a 12-person team that determined Hunter Biden had failed to pay $2.2 million on $8.3 million in income earned between 2014 and 2019 from foreign countries where his father held sway as vice president, such as China, Romania and Ukraine.

On October 19, 2020 — the same date the “spies who lie” letter was fed to Politico — Shapley said he emailed Delaware Assistant US Attorney Lesley Wolf to tell her: “We need to talk about the computer.”

“My management has to be looped into whatever the FBI is doing with the laptop. It is IRS [Criminal Investigations]’s responsibility to know what is happening. Let me know when I can be briefed on this issue.”

Three days later, there was a meeting “with the prosecution team and the FBI’s computer analysis team to discuss Hunter Biden’s laptop,” Shapley said.

“We once again objected that we still had not been given access to the laptop,” he said. “Special Agent [redacted] asked about the full filter reviewed copy of the contents of the devices. He stated he had not been provided with the data. AUSA Lesley Wolf stated that she would not have seen it because, for a variety of reasons, prosecutors decided to keep it from the investigators. This decision is unprecedented in my experience.”

A second IRS whistleblower, who had worked on the case since it opened in 2018, told the panel that investigators were able to review some of the documents, but Shapley said that there was never a complete review, in part because of a “filter” process that withheld some communications on the grounds of attorney-client privilege or other reasons.

“Investigators assigned to this investigation were obstructed from seeing all the available evidence. It is unknown if all the evidence in the laptop was reviewed by agents or by prosecutors,” he said. “Based on guidance provided by the prosecutors on a recurring basis to not look into anything related to President Biden, there is no way of knowing if evidence of other criminal activity existed concerning Hunter Biden or President Biden.”

Wolf, a key figure in the investigation, “acknowledged that there was no reason to believe that any data was manipulated on devices by any third party.

She further supported this belief by mentioning that they corroborated the data with other sources of information received,” Shapley said.

“When we get any information, and even from the laptop and hard drive, it went through filter reviews, and we only saw what came back as nonprivileged.”

The filter team included IRS and FBI agents as well as Justice Department attorneys. It’s unclear from the testimony when exactly that process was conducted and investigators were discouraged from viewing press reports on the device to ensure they only viewed verified information.

Some emails were withheld, Shapley said, because Hunter’s attorney George Mesires was cc-ed.

One email chain was between Hunter and his associate Eric Schwerin, a key figure in the Biden family’s business dealings.

“They basically claimed privilege,” Shapley said, “on a huge amount of information.”

So the FBI hasn't actually come out saying they've verified it. Rather some "whistleblower" says they did? And the only thing that he says was verified was the device's icloud ID matches? Meaning someone else could have linked it to the icloud account? No fingerprints on the keys that Hunter would have typed on? Or spittle/fingernails/skin in the keyboard cracks?

And still no charges of illegal activity came from the laptop search for Hunter, let alone Joe?

So in the end, the laptop has had no bearing on any of Hunter's legal issues to date. Fun stuff, why are people still obsessed about it being some "smocking gun"?

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:55 pm ...who cares ? The verified evidence is what matters. Your "argument" is a diversion & distraction.

You care. You've just moved on from that conspiracy to a new one, now that the old one has been debunked.

It's important to understand that NO ONE had the allegd laptop to verify that it was real, because it explains why many media outlets refused to run the "story" that Giuliani was selling just weeks before the election.

And it's also why former US Intel wonks told us this had all the marks of Russian Disinfo: Giulani claims to have Hunter's laptop, but refuses to give it to anyone to verify his story. Gee, why would they question that, Old Salt. Must be a conspiracy.


FoxNation spun this as "a conspiracy to protect Hunter". Nope. It was literate people who know you can't confirm if something is authentic if you can't get access to the item in question to examine it. Not my fault most of the nation is too stupid to understand this is how things work in the real world.

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:55 pm No matter what comes out that's independently verified or from other sources, you'll try to cast doubt upon it.

Nope. I haven't done that, sorry. Happy to agree...and have this entire time....that some of Hunter's emails and documents have been verified from other sources. You see, I'm not on TeamTinFoil.

old salt wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:55 pm Have you acknowledged yet that the Steele dossier was a fake, paid for by the Clinton campaign ?

Want to go over this again, and go over our old posts....where I show you that the WaPo and others IMMEDIATELY made fun of Vox for publishing that unverified garbage can of wild claims?

The media got it right with both the claims of laptop, as well as the claims made by Steele. You should be happy. I have no idea why you're not.

Because if it doesn't help MAGA partisan interests, he ain't happy. Simple as that.

“The FBI verified its [the laptop’s] authenticity in November of 2019 by matching the device number against Hunter Biden’s Apple iCloud ID.”

I don’t profess to be a computer expert, but my understanding is that this simply is some degree of verification that at least some of the contents on the laptop were Hunter’s. There have been other types of verification matching, e.g., emails on the laptop to emails whose authenticity from other sources could be verified.

All this says, as I understand it, is that this computer either has documents on it from the iCloud account or has accessed the iCloud account.

I’m not aware that the FBI has ruled out the possibility that Hunter was hacked. Again, not an expert, but I thought if you examined a computer, you could tell if it had been hacked and by whom. Haven’t heard anything about whether the FBI looked into that and, if they did, what they found.

I should add: Hunter has now sued Rudy claiming, among other things, that Rudy hacked Hunter’s computer. Hunter will have to give a deposition in the case at which he will certainly be asked if this was his laptop. If it really is, and he denies it under oath, he is opening himself up to a lot of trouble, including in his case against Rudy.

Yawn. From the sworn Congressional testimony of the lead investigating IRS Supervisoey Agent.

https://freebeacon.com/biden-administra ... mber-2019/
Whistleblower Says FBI Verified Authenticity of Hunter Biden Laptop in November 2019
June 22, 2023

The FBI authenticated Hunter Biden’s laptop as far back as November 2019, according to testimony from an IRS whistleblower released on Thursday, and knew the device was not part of a foreign disinformation campaign.

The Bureau learned of the laptop in October 2019, the whistleblower, IRS supervisory agent Gary Shapley said, and just one month later verified its authenticity. The IRS was notified about the laptop in December 2019 and told that "it likely contained evidence of a tax crime," the whistleblower said.

Shapley's stunning claims raise important questions about the Department of Justice’s conduct over the last several years.

FBI director Christopher Wray refused as recently as March to verify that the contents of Hunter Biden’s hard drive were not part of a foreign disinformation campaign. Numerous outside investigators and newsrooms, including the Washington Free Beacon, have concluded that Hunter Biden’s hard drive is authentic since its existence was made public by the New York Post in October 2020.

One week after the New York Post's initial report more than 50 former senior intelligence officials signed a letter alleging that it "has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation." Signatories of that letter included former Director of National Intelligence Jim Clapper, as well as former CIA directors Leon Panetta and John Brennan. That letter was later cited in an Oct. 22 presidential debate by Joe Biden, who said the release of the laptop was part of a "Russian plan." Since he took office, Biden’s White House has insinuated that the laptop was part of a Russian disinformation campaign.

"I think it’s broadly known and widely known…that there was a broad range of Russian disinformation back in 2020," former White House spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in Sept. 2021.

Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg said in August 2022 that the FBI briefed Facebook ahead of the 2020 presidential election about "Russian propaganda" and said his platform should be on "high alert." Zuckerberg said that meeting, which the FBI confirmed took place, was the rationale behind his company censoring all news stories that mentioned the laptop’s contents.

Shapley says the tax agency recommended felony charges against Hunter Biden and that the federal prosecutor handling the probe of the first son was prevented on multiple occasions from filing charges.

Federal prosecutors knew that no content on the Hunter Biden hard drive was fabricated prior to the 2020 election, according to a memo Shapley prepared on Oct. 22, 2020 and provided to the House Ways and Means Committee. Content on the hard drive were exact matches to files authorities had obtained from a search warrant of Hunter Biden’s iCloud account, the memo states.

"We have no reason to believe there is anything fabricated nefariously on the computer and or hard drive," the memo states. "There are emails and other items that corroborate the items on the laptop and hard drive."

Authorities also knew the New York Post explanation that Hunter Biden dropped his laptop off at a Delaware computer repair shop in April 2019 and then neglected to pick it back up, was accurate, Shapley said.
Investigators had obtained financial records and "other intelligence" showing Hunter Biden was in the vicinity of the computer repair shop the same day he dropped his computer off for repair.

"Financial records show [Hunter Biden] was around Wilmington DE shop at a cigar shop on the same day," the memo states.

The FBI determined the device was Hunter Biden’s by comparing its device number to Hunter Biden’s iCloud account.

""The FBI case agent, Josh Wilson, called up the computer shop owner, John Paul, and basically got the device numbers from him," Shapley said, according to an interview transcript released by the House Ways and Means Committee. "And then we bounced those device numbers off third-party records, and it showed that it was, in fact, Hunter Biden's device. So it was a very first important step."

old salt wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 11:19 pm Yawn. From the sworn Congressional testimony of the lead investigating IRS Supervisoey Agent.

https://freebeacon.com/biden-administra ... mber-2019/
Whistleblower Says FBI Verified Authenticity of Hunter Biden Laptop in November 2019
June 22, 2023

The FBI authenticated Hunter Biden’s laptop as far back as November 2019, according to testimony from an IRS whistleblower released on Thursday, and knew the device was not part of a foreign disinformation campaign.

The Bureau learned of the laptop in October 2019, the whistleblower, IRS supervisory agent Gary Shapley said, and just one month later verified its authenticity. The IRS was notified about the laptop in December 2019 and told that "it likely contained evidence of a tax crime," the whistleblower said.

Shapley's stunning claims raise important questions about the Department of Justice’s conduct over the last several years.

FBI director Christopher Wray refused as recently as March to verify that the contents of Hunter Biden’s hard drive were not part of a foreign disinformation campaign. Numerous outside investigators and newsrooms, including the Washington Free Beacon, have concluded that Hunter Biden’s hard drive is authentic since its existence was made public by the New York Post in October 2020.

One week after the New York Post's initial report more than 50 former senior intelligence officials signed a letter alleging that it "has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation." Signatories of that letter included former Director of National Intelligence Jim Clapper, as well as former CIA directors Leon Panetta and John Brennan. That letter was later cited in an Oct. 22 presidential debate by Joe Biden, who said the release of the laptop was part of a "Russian plan." Since he took office, Biden’s White House has insinuated that the laptop was part of a Russian disinformation campaign.

"I think it’s broadly known and widely known…that there was a broad range of Russian disinformation back in 2020," former White House spokeswoman Jen Psaki said in Sept. 2021.

Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg said in August 2022 that the FBI briefed Facebook ahead of the 2020 presidential election about "Russian propaganda" and said his platform should be on "high alert." Zuckerberg said that meeting, which the FBI confirmed took place, was the rationale behind his company censoring all news stories that mentioned the laptop’s contents.

Shapley says the tax agency recommended felony charges against Hunter Biden and that the federal prosecutor handling the probe of the first son was prevented on multiple occasions from filing charges.

Federal prosecutors knew that no content on the Hunter Biden hard drive was fabricated prior to the 2020 election, according to a memo Shapley prepared on Oct. 22, 2020 and provided to the House Ways and Means Committee. Content on the hard drive were exact matches to files authorities had obtained from a search warrant of Hunter Biden’s iCloud account, the memo states.

"We have no reason to believe there is anything fabricated nefariously on the computer and or hard drive," the memo states. "There are emails and other items that corroborate the items on the laptop and hard drive."

Authorities also knew the New York Post explanation that Hunter Biden dropped his laptop off at a Delaware computer repair shop in April 2019 and then neglected to pick it back up, was accurate, Shapley said.
Investigators had obtained financial records and "other intelligence" showing Hunter Biden was in the vicinity of the computer repair shop the same day he dropped his computer off for repair.

"Financial records show [Hunter Biden] was around Wilmington DE shop at a cigar shop on the same day," the memo states.

The FBI determined the device was Hunter Biden’s by comparing its device number to Hunter Biden’s iCloud account.

""The FBI case agent, Josh Wilson, called up the computer shop owner, John Paul, and basically got the device numbers from him," Shapley said, according to an interview transcript released by the House Ways and Means Committee. "And then we bounced those device numbers off third-party records, and it showed that it was, in fact, Hunter Biden's device. So it was a very first important step."

I have not seen you worked up about Donald’s crimes….

old salt wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 11:19 pm Yawn. From the sworn Congressional testimony of the lead investigating IRS Supervisoey Agent.

Allow me to translate:

Old Salt acknowledges that the media never had access to the alleged laptop, nor did Congress, nor did the IRS agents.

So he finally understands why US Intel and media had no way of confirming Giulianis story just three weeks before the election, and were right to call bullsh(t.

In addition, he has FINALLY figured out that the copy that Giuliani gave to the media may not be the same thing that the FBI has. And that it’s impossible to know one way or another.

In other words, it’s entirely possible that the “copy” Giuliani circulated has been altered in some way.

Hunters suit could prove to be very interesting.

Double standards.

Representative Greg Cesar (D-TX) asked the members of the Oversight Committee to raise their hands if they believe that both Hunter and Trump should be held accountable if they are found guilty on any of their indictments. The Democrats all raised their hands. The Republicans did not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh2qBqJN04c

r's just want to make their mindless voters numb to facts.