All things CoronaVirus

[Farfromgeneva]

if someone could just list how and when and who we should be agreeing with on mandates, that'd be great so everyone on here can keep up.
is it the july position that the feds won't be issuing mandates and didn't think they had the authority to anyway, the september ones for fed, or the local ones, state ones?

is there a support group to join?

Would you agree that Abbott banning private businesses from having a private mandate as part of their employment is problematic? If not why not.

yes.

Thanks

[Typical Lax Dad]

if someone could just list how and when and who we should be agreeing with on mandates, that'd be great so everyone on here can keep up.
is it the july position that the feds won't be issuing mandates and didn't think they had the authority to anyway, the september ones for fed, or the local ones, state ones?

is there a support group to join?

Don’t matter. People don’t need the government to think for them. If a person wants to eat old meat, why not. Nothing wrong with food poisoning. It could be worse….like COVID-19.

What’s wrong with a bit of Mithradization here and a little hormesis there?

E. Coli is just a cleanser.

[Farfromgeneva]

if someone could just list how and when and who we should be agreeing with on mandates, that'd be great so everyone on here can keep up.
is it the july position that the feds won't be issuing mandates and didn't think they had the authority to anyway, the september ones for fed, or the local ones, state ones?

is there a support group to join?

Don’t matter. People don’t need the government to think for them. If a person wants to eat old meat, why not. Nothing wrong with food poisoning. It could be worse….like COVID-19.

What’s wrong with a bit of Mithradization here and a little hormesis there?

E. Coli is just a cleanser.

https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live ... ow/3506012

[runrussellrun]

What's he getting at? You're not being obtuse at all, right? He's getting at VACCINATIONS. Sure, vaxxing is the topic of the day regarding COVID-19, but how can you be confused by the question AF is asking you? Somehow you're dodging the question about not objecting to the general population being "forced" to get vaccinated for other disease, but you're NOT OK with it being forced for a highly contagious, very deadly disease like COVID-19?? Why?

Some may draw a conclusion about why you won't answer the question...AF is TRYING to coax a position out of you to leave no doubt about it, you know, don't let someone else define your position, right? Did you want to just GUESS at why some see this avoidance and obfuscation as rank hypocrisy rooted in political numbnuttery? Show us how that's wrong...

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They are lying about the lack of vaccinations.....the rate is much, much higher.

Pfizer ever get audited? YUP.....

If so many vaccines have been put out (margins....and call...)......where are they going? The trash?

Division.............I wear a mask.

Unless....I am at a MLB boreball game....than....nope.

Fauci strikes me as a bore ball nerd........wood rather go for a run..........

[runrussellrun]

if someone could just list how and when and who we should be agreeing with on mandates, that'd be great so everyone on here can keep up.
is it the july position that the feds won't be issuing mandates and didn't think they had the authority to anyway, the september ones for fed, or the local ones, state ones?

is there a support group to join?

Don’t matter. People don’t need the government to think for them. If a person wants to eat old meat, why not. Nothing wrong with food poisoning. It could be worse….like COVID-19.

What’s wrong with a bit of Mithradization here and a little hormesis there?

E. Coli is just a cleanser.

Risks? Ummmllllllll OI

[youthathletics]

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-wor ... a-vaccine/

That was clear as mud...if you never had CV-19.

[runrussellrun]

if someone could just list how and when and who we should be agreeing with on mandates, that'd be great so everyone on here can keep up.
is it the july position that the feds won't be issuing mandates and didn't think they had the authority to anyway, the september ones for fed, or the local ones, state ones?

is there a support group to join?

Don’t matter. People don’t need the government to think for them. If a person wants to eat old meat, why not. Nothing wrong with food poisoning. It could be worse….like COVID-19.

What’s wrong with a bit of Mithradization here and a little hormesis there?

E. Coli is just a cleanser.

https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live ... ow/3506012

Get covid.......pass it around. Only survivors wanted. Trump covid survivors

[ggait]

Why can't your first thought be that's another hopefully extremely effective tool in our toolbox against this disease. WHY is everything "a substitute for vaccination" in your eyes. Your problem is with Pharma then, because they aren't going to stop making antivirals such as these, because people might rely on them instead of vaccination. Moronic..

Why can't your first thought be what can we do to get vaccines into the THIRTY FOUR PERCENT of Americans who still have not received at least one dose? Because even though things are coming down, projections are that we will still be ticking along at 1,000 deaths per day in the USA as we get into 2022. And because a vax is so much safer, cheaper and more effective than any treatment.

But once the kids can get vaxed, I will be more of the fork 'em mindset for anyone still refusing. At some point, stupid will get what stupid gets. Go ahead and drive without your seatbelt -- won't impact me directly.

[Typical Lax Dad]

if someone could just list how and when and who we should be agreeing with on mandates, that'd be great so everyone on here can keep up.
is it the july position that the feds won't be issuing mandates and didn't think they had the authority to anyway, the september ones for fed, or the local ones, state ones?

is there a support group to join?

Don’t matter. People don’t need the government to think for them. If a person wants to eat old meat, why not. Nothing wrong with food poisoning. It could be worse….like COVID-19.

What’s wrong with a bit of Mithradization here and a little hormesis there?

E. Coli is just a cleanser.

https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live ... ow/3506012

Someone can make money off of Colon Blow…. It is FDA Approved…..E. Coli is the Ivermectin equivalent….

[wgdsr]

Why can't your first thought be that's another hopefully extremely effective tool in our toolbox against this disease. WHY is everything "a substitute for vaccination" in your eyes. Your problem is with Pharma then, because they aren't going to stop making antivirals such as these, because people might rely on them instead of vaccination. Moronic..

Why can't your first thought be what can we do to get vaccines into the THIRTY FOUR PERCENT of Americans who still have not received at least one dose? Because even though things are coming down, projections are that we will still be ticking along at 1,000 deaths per day in the USA as we get into 2022. And because a vax is so much safer, cheaper and more effective than any treatment.

But once the kids can get vaxed, I will be more of the fork 'em mindset for anyone still refusing. At some point, stupid will get what stupid gets. Go ahead and drive without your seatbelt -- won't impact me directly.

to calm your nerves a bit, it's 20% of all adults. the majority of those under 18 haven't been approved yet.

[runrussellrun]

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-wor ... a-vaccine/

That was clear as mud...if you never had CV-19.

No one ever got covid..........what a lie

[JoeMauer89]

What's he getting at? You're not being obtuse at all, right? He's getting at VACCINATIONS. Sure, vaxxing is the topic of the day regarding COVID-19, but how can you be confused by the question AF is asking you? Somehow you're dodging the question about not objecting to the general population being "forced" to get vaccinated for other disease, but you're NOT OK with it being forced for a highly contagious, very deadly disease like COVID-19?? Why?

Some may draw a conclusion about why you won't answer the question...AF is TRYING to coax a position out of you to leave no doubt about it, you know, don't let someone else define your position, right? Did you want to just GUESS at why some see this avoidance and obfuscation as rank hypocrisy rooted in political numbnuttery? Show us how that's wrong...

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I understand and can see the reasoning behind some of these people objecting. Christ almighty, does that mean I don't object to the idea of vaccination in general? None of those other vaccination's came with such a politicization and fervor that have cause untold other issues. Were 19+ months into this, everybody knows that CV-19 is a highly contagious and the risk is greater to some than it is to others. That doesn't need to be said ad nauseum. It doesn't strengthen any point except for the part that you are leaving out. The vaccine is necessary because it greatly lessens the symptoms you might have IF you contract CV-19. It was never intended to PREVENT ONE FROM CONTRACTING CV-19. The politicization of this virus and horrible messaging from certain parts of the media have actually left people who don't critically think for themselves thinking that they physically cannot contract CV-19 after vaccination. That is an unintended consequence that has done great harm....

Joe

[Typical Lax Dad]

What's he getting at? You're not being obtuse at all, right? He's getting at VACCINATIONS. Sure, vaxxing is the topic of the day regarding COVID-19, but how can you be confused by the question AF is asking you? Somehow you're dodging the question about not objecting to the general population being "forced" to get vaccinated for other disease, but you're NOT OK with it being forced for a highly contagious, very deadly disease like COVID-19?? Why?

Some may draw a conclusion about why you won't answer the question...AF is TRYING to coax a position out of you to leave no doubt about it, you know, don't let someone else define your position, right? Did you want to just GUESS at why some see this avoidance and obfuscation as rank hypocrisy rooted in political numbnuttery? Show us how that's wrong...

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I understand and can see the reasoning behind some of these people objecting. Christ almighty, does that mean I don't object to the idea of vaccination in general? None of those other vaccination's came with such a politicization and fervor that have cause untold other issues. Were 19+ months into this, everybody knows that CV-19 is a highly contagious and the risk is greater to some than it is to others. That doesn't need to be said ad nauseum. It doesn't strengthen any point except for the part that you are leaving out. The vaccine is necessary because it greatly lessens the symptoms you might have IF you contract CV-19. It was never intended to PREVENT ONE FROM CONTRACTING CV-19. The politicization of this virus and horrible messaging from certain parts of the media have actually left people who don't critically think for themselves that physically cannot contract CV-19 after vaccination. That is an unintended consequence that has done great harm....

Joe

Vaccines also help with that variant thingy.

[JoeMauer89]

What's he getting at? You're not being obtuse at all, right? He's getting at VACCINATIONS. Sure, vaxxing is the topic of the day regarding COVID-19, but how can you be confused by the question AF is asking you? Somehow you're dodging the question about not objecting to the general population being "forced" to get vaccinated for other disease, but you're NOT OK with it being forced for a highly contagious, very deadly disease like COVID-19?? Why?

Some may draw a conclusion about why you won't answer the question...AF is TRYING to coax a position out of you to leave no doubt about it, you know, don't let someone else define your position, right? Did you want to just GUESS at why some see this avoidance and obfuscation as rank hypocrisy rooted in political numbnuttery? Show us how that's wrong...

..

I understand and can see the reasoning behind some of these people objecting. Christ almighty, does that mean I don't object to the idea of vaccination in general? None of those other vaccination's came with such a politicization and fervor that have cause untold other issues. Were 19+ months into this, everybody knows that CV-19 is a highly contagious and the risk is greater to some than it is to others. That doesn't need to be said ad nauseum. It doesn't strengthen any point except for the part that you are leaving out. The vaccine is necessary because it greatly lessens the symptoms you might have IF you contract CV-19. It was never intended to PREVENT ONE FROM CONTRACTING CV-19. The politicization of this virus and horrible messaging from certain parts of the media have actually left people who don't critically think for themselves that physically cannot contract CV-19 after vaccination. That is an unintended consequence that has done great harm....

Joe

Vaccines also help with that variant thingy.

Actually, you know what? Delta has been so dominant that it has ACTUALLY been out-competing and effectively "killing off" most if not all of the variants that have attempted to take hold in the past few months. We have highly effective vaccines, monoclonal antibodies, people who contracted CV-19 (Delta variant) and recovered no worse for the wear( I know that the FLP group won't acknowledge these people truly exist, but they do in droves) and forthcoming antiviral solutions. ALL OF THIS is helping to combat Delta and keep it at bay.

Joe

[Typical Lax Dad]

What's he getting at? You're not being obtuse at all, right? He's getting at VACCINATIONS. Sure, vaxxing is the topic of the day regarding COVID-19, but how can you be confused by the question AF is asking you? Somehow you're dodging the question about not objecting to the general population being "forced" to get vaccinated for other disease, but you're NOT OK with it being forced for a highly contagious, very deadly disease like COVID-19?? Why?

Some may draw a conclusion about why you won't answer the question...AF is TRYING to coax a position out of you to leave no doubt about it, you know, don't let someone else define your position, right? Did you want to just GUESS at why some see this avoidance and obfuscation as rank hypocrisy rooted in political numbnuttery? Show us how that's wrong...

..

I understand and can see the reasoning behind some of these people objecting. Christ almighty, does that mean I don't object to the idea of vaccination in general? None of those other vaccination's came with such a politicization and fervor that have cause untold other issues. Were 19+ months into this, everybody knows that CV-19 is a highly contagious and the risk is greater to some than it is to others. That doesn't need to be said ad nauseum. It doesn't strengthen any point except for the part that you are leaving out. The vaccine is necessary because it greatly lessens the symptoms you might have IF you contract CV-19. It was never intended to PREVENT ONE FROM CONTRACTING CV-19. The politicization of this virus and horrible messaging from certain parts of the media have actually left people who don't critically think for themselves that physically cannot contract CV-19 after vaccination. That is an unintended consequence that has done great harm....

Joe

Vaccines also help with that variant thingy.

Actually, you know what? Delta has been so dominant that it has ACTUALLY been out-competing and effectively "killing off" most if not all of the variants that have attempted to take hold in the past few months. We have highly effective vaccines, monoclonal antibodies, people who contracted CV-19 (Delta variant) and recovered no worse for the wear( I know that the FLP group won't acknowledge these people truly exist, but they do in droves) and forthcoming antiviral solutions. ALL OF THIS is helping to combat Delta and keep it at bay.

Joe

Delta is the last variant thingy, Jo Jo? How many people have died in the past 4 months?

EDIT: Died from COVID-19….not a heart attack or car accident or Cancer.

[a fan]

I understand and can see the reasoning behind some of these people objecting. Christ almighty, does that mean I don't object to the idea of vaccination in general? None of those other vaccination's came with such a politicization and fervor that have cause untold other issues.

Yes. It has NOTHING to do with real objections to the vaccine. These people don't REALLY fear that vaccine. It's why, for example, Allen West refused to take the "untested' vaccine----yet IMMEDIATELY took the "untested" monoclonal treatments that only have emergency FDA approval. So....his protests aren't real. They're political, and have NOTHING to do with any real objections to "untested" treatments.

And this is why so many of us are annoyed and angry. It'd be a big help if you'd stop pretending that you don't understand why Americans would be angry at grown adults pretending that their freedom is at stake with a silly vaccine....leading to tens of thousands of pointless deaths, and untold economic damage. It's an entirely rational response on our part, my man. Easily understood by a guy like you.



Btw, you STILL didn't answer my questions:

So you want free choice for this vaccine, and ONLY this vaccine. Do I have that right?

But you're fine with the government forcing citizens to take OTHER vaccines? Polio, MMR, etc.?

I just want to make sure I'm understanding your position here.

Are you for vaccine mandates, or not? Simple question.

[Kismet]

I understand and can see the reasoning behind some of these people objecting. Christ almighty, does that mean I don't object to the idea of vaccination in general? None of those other vaccination's came with such a politicization and fervor that have cause untold other issues.

Yes. It has NOTHING to do with real objections to the vaccine. These people don't REALLY fear that vaccine. It's why, for example, Allen West refused to take the "untested' vaccine----yet IMMEDIATELY took the "untested" monoclonal treatments that only have emergency FDA approval. So....his protests aren't real. They're political, and have NOTHING to do with any real objections to "untested" treatments.

And this is why so many of us are annoyed and angry. It'd be a big help if you'd stop pretending that you don't understand why Americans would be angry at grown adults pretending that their freedom is at stake with a silly vaccine....leading to tens of thousands of pointless deaths, and untold economic damage. It's an entirely rational response on our part, my man. Easily understood by a guy like you.



Btw, you STILL didn't answer my questions:

So you want free choice for this vaccine, and ONLY this vaccine. Do I have that right?

But you're fine with the government forcing citizens to take OTHER vaccines? Polio, MMR, etc.?

I just want to make sure I'm understanding your position here.

Are you for vaccine mandates, or not? Simple question.

applause for your desire to get an answer from Joey. I doubt you'll ever get one because then he might actually have to defend his position for a change rather than just issuing another irrelevant rant.
He'd make a fine witness for the Inquisition, though.
Nothing to see here, just move along

[SCLaxAttack]

See ya later, Kyrie. Stay out of boats while you're away, though. We wouldn't want you falling off the edge of the earth.

https://sports.yahoo.com/brooklyn-nets- ... 34937.html

[Farfromgeneva]

I understand and can see the reasoning behind some of these people objecting. Christ almighty, does that mean I don't object to the idea of vaccination in general? None of those other vaccination's came with such a politicization and fervor that have cause untold other issues.

Yes. It has NOTHING to do with real objections to the vaccine. These people don't REALLY fear that vaccine. It's why, for example, Allen West refused to take the "untested' vaccine----yet IMMEDIATELY took the "untested" monoclonal treatments that only have emergency FDA approval. So....his protests aren't real. They're political, and have NOTHING to do with any real objections to "untested" treatments.

And this is why so many of us are annoyed and angry. It'd be a big help if you'd stop pretending that you don't understand why Americans would be angry at grown adults pretending that their freedom is at stake with a silly vaccine....leading to tens of thousands of pointless deaths, and untold economic damage. It's an entirely rational response on our part, my man. Easily understood by a guy like you.



Btw, you STILL didn't answer my questions:

So you want free choice for this vaccine, and ONLY this vaccine. Do I have that right?

But you're fine with the government forcing citizens to take OTHER vaccines? Polio, MMR, etc.?

I just want to make sure I'm understanding your position here.

Are you for vaccine mandates, or not? Simple question.

applause for your desire to get an answer from Joey. I doubt you'll ever get one because then he might actually have to defend his position for a change rather than just issuing another irrelevant rant.
He'd make a fine witness for the Inquisition, though.
Nothing to see here, just move along

Honestly I'm not for a mandate. I don't mind private sector or the gov't with respect to public sector employees setting their own standards and those that don't have to pay the price of consequences - it's not discrimination, that's moronic to suggest. But if you don't and you don't get paid, don't have access to certain things, etc. that's the price of the choice. These numbnuts want it both ways - risk transference, free rider bs.

[JoeMauer89]

I understand and can see the reasoning behind some of these people objecting. Christ almighty, does that mean I don't object to the idea of vaccination in general? None of those other vaccination's came with such a politicization and fervor that have cause untold other issues.

Yes. It has NOTHING to do with real objections to the vaccine. These people don't REALLY fear that vaccine. It's why, for example, Allen West refused to take the "untested' vaccine----yet IMMEDIATELY took the "untested" monoclonal treatments that only have emergency FDA approval. So....his protests aren't real. They're political, and have NOTHING to do with any real objections to "untested" treatments.

And this is why so many of us are annoyed and angry. It'd be a big help if you'd stop pretending that you don't understand why Americans would be angry at grown adults pretending that their freedom is at stake with a silly vaccine....leading to tens of thousands of pointless deaths, and untold economic damage. It's an entirely rational response on our part, my man. Easily understood by a guy like you.



Btw, you STILL didn't answer my questions:

So you want free choice for this vaccine, and ONLY this vaccine. Do I have that right?

But you're fine with the government forcing citizens to take OTHER vaccines? Polio, MMR, etc.?

I just want to make sure I'm understanding your position here.

Are you for vaccine mandates, or not? Simple question.

Not for the workplace. No, I'm not for the workplace vaccine mandate. If that answers your question. There still is no EO from the Biden Administration. Likely a well played move on their part to scare/coerce large companies into mandating themselves.

Joe