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Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 4:11 pm

SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 3:44 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 3:13 pm

SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 1:07 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:38 am

Cooter wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 10:29 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 8:10 am

Cooter wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 9:09 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 4:04 pm https://www.masterresource.org/climate- ... te-change/

I know Dr Spencer is as popular to some folks here as a case of the clap. This article is worth a read. If you are capable of still having an open mind on the subject.

It is perhaps true that there could be some other cause for the Global warming, at least, in part.
It is fair to note that Spencer's list was written 9 years before the 2018 article you link to, or in 2009.
Since 2009, the world temperature has pretty steadily gone up and by .32 degrees. This increase has caused more and more people to believe the increase in Greenhouse gas is most likely the major cause.
Further, the amount of Greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is something that man can change over time.

Dr Spencer has brought up a number of times that the method for calculator the earth temperature is not all that accurate. No one knows exactly how the UHI should be calculated into the mix. The UHI is the Urban Heat Islands and the spikes in them tend to skew the temperature calculations.

https://weather.com/science/weather-exp ... rbs-cooler

There is also the factor of where the readings are being taken from at any given point on the planet.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/06/las ... corrected/

Of course, we have the various effects of the warming to support the data.

What effects are those and how can they be proven to be related to CC? Forest fires have occurred all of my 62 years on this planet. Hurricanes have occurred during all of my 62 years on the planet. After Katrina we were told to expect these monsters every year. It was 17 years before another hurricane hit landfall in the USA. If you are looking for consistency predicated on predictions the CC/GW people really need to get their stuff together.

Crades, care to edit the sentence I bolded and its connection to your logic thereafter? I'm certain we've had hurricanes hit the US since 2005, and will probably have more before 2023.

The last MAJOR Hurricane was Irma in 2017 which was a Cat 4 storm. There were 2 smaller storms in 2016 which were Cat 1 and Cat 2 storms. There were many folks screaming after Katrina that these storms would be the new normal. We were suppose to be hit by several of them every year. If I remember correctly, that never happened.

Let’s ignore that according to your explanation the number should have been 12 and not 17.

I’m not suggesting that hurricanes are even a valid indicator of climate change, but if you look at this chart you’ll see that with the exception of a few outlying stretches of one-three years (El Nino, La Niña effect), the number of named storms, hurricanes, and severe hurricanes has increased pretty significantly since 1995 compared to the period 1851-1994. http://www.stormfax.com/huryear.htm

If it rains more than half an inch now, the Weather Channel and all government agencies name it. It's the most sensationalist stupidity in the universe anymore, weather. Tons of scared housefraus sit at home in the Northeast eating their jelly donuts watching Ellen and The View, and god forbid there is a drop of rain outside...the Weather Channel, NHC, and every other grifting weather wacko issue storm alerts. Al Roker will let you know that "55 MILLION PEOPLE ARE IN THE WAY OF APOCALYPTIC TORRENTIAL RAIN!!!!!' (howard dean scream please, dems!)

What a joke. I honestly do not know how most of you Dems survive day to day: scared of rain, scared of cold, scared of heat, scared of change. TDS has further ruined your ability to think.

Get out of the way and let real men run this bad boy country! Also, back to work!

SCLaxAttack wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 1:07 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 11:38 am

Cooter wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 10:29 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed May 06, 2020 8:10 am

Cooter wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 9:09 pm

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 4:04 pm https://www.masterresource.org/climate- ... te-change/

I know Dr Spencer is as popular to some folks here as a case of the clap. This article is worth a read. If you are capable of still having an open mind on the subject.

It is perhaps true that there could be some other cause for the Global warming, at least, in part.
It is fair to note that Spencer's list was written 9 years before the 2018 article you link to, or in 2009.
Since 2009, the world temperature has pretty steadily gone up and by .32 degrees. This increase has caused more and more people to believe the increase in Greenhouse gas is most likely the major cause.
Further, the amount of Greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is something that man can change over time.

Dr Spencer has brought up a number of times that the method for calculator the earth temperature is not all that accurate. No one knows exactly how the UHI should be calculated into the mix. The UHI is the Urban Heat Islands and the spikes in them tend to skew the temperature calculations.

https://weather.com/science/weather-exp ... rbs-cooler

There is also the factor of where the readings are being taken from at any given point on the planet.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/06/las ... corrected/

Of course, we have the various effects of the warming to support the data.

What effects are those and how can they be proven to be related to CC? Forest fires have occurred all of my 62 years on this planet. Hurricanes have occurred during all of my 62 years on the planet. After Katrina we were told to expect these monsters every year. It was 17 years before another hurricane hit landfall in the USA. If you are looking for consistency predicated on predictions the CC/GW people really need to get their stuff together.

Crades, care to edit the sentence I bolded and its connection to your logic thereafter? I'm certain we've had hurricanes hit the US since 2005, and will probably have more before 2023.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 7:51 pm Well, this news ain’t gonna help the global warming hysterics’ weekend!

Global freezing now?!?!

https://nypost.com/2020/05/14/the-sun-h ... er-famine/

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 7:51 pm Well, this news ain’t gonna help the global warming hysterics’ weekend!

Global freezing now?!?!

https://nypost.com/2020/05/14/the-sun-h ... er-famine/

Capital Weather Gang

Parts of Siberia are hotter than Washington, with temperatures nearly 40 degrees above average

Snow cover is disappearing, sea ice is melting and fires, including possible ‘zombie’ blazes, are raging.

Siberia is in the throes of a heat wave that would be considered warm even by the standards of those living outside the Arctic Circle.

In Washington, for example, the temperature has been stuck in the 60s all week, reaching a maximum of 73 degrees on Thursday. Yet several temperature stations in North Central Siberia, including areas near or above the Arctic Circle, are seeing temperatures climb well into the 80s.

The Siberian warmth so far in May is not a fluke event, either, instead it’s been a consistent feature since this winter. Temperature departures from average in Europe and Asia have helped push global average surface temperatures to record highs so far this year, and on global temperature maps, these regions stand out as splotches of crimson red.

The warmth in Siberia is already having repercussions on Arctic ecosystems, with unusually large Siberian wildfires already burning this year, snow cover plummeting unusually quickly and sea ice cover in areas such as the Kara Sea, which lies to the north of Central Siberia, at a record low for the date, having begun its seasonal melt more than a month earlier than is typical.

According to Zack Labe, a graduate student at the University of California at Irvine who researches Arctic climate change, what has recently been taking place in Siberia has been extraordinary.

“Although Siberia is known for wild temperature swings, the persistence and magnitude of warmth over the region so far this year has been astonishing,” he said via email. “This week is an example of an extreme event, with summer-like temperatures over parts of Western Siberia thanks to a strong upper level ridge. We can already see this reflected in snow cover data, as there are large negative departures of snow extent stretching across the entire Siberian coast of the Arctic,” he said.

Labe noted that sea ice in the Kara Sea has reached a record low for the date, and ice cover is thinner than average along the entire coastline of northern Siberia. He said said the warmth is likely conditioning the ice to melt further by melting snow cover lying on top of the sea ice.

This turns highly reflective ice cover into snow and ice that has a lower reflectivity, known as its albedo, which means that it absorbs more incoming solar radiation.

“This may make the sea ice more vulnerable to melting later in the summer, if weather conditions permit. Overall, the weather patterns in June through August will dictate the extent of melting closer to the September minimum,” Labe said.

So far this year, Siberian fires have gotten off to a fast, and unusually expansive, start. Russian officials have stated they expect this summer will potentially be the hottest the region has seen, with an unusually destructive fire season. Fires in the vast forests of Siberia burned 7 million acres last year, an area greater than the size of Maryland, and sent smoke drifting around the world.

there have been trends of fires showing up shortly after snow cover melts, which is a topic of discussion in the fire science community. Some scientists are noting how quickly the hot spots are showing up on satellite imagery and questioning whether these are actually “zombie fires" from last summer that survived the winter by burning in layers of vegetation under the snow.

6ftstick wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:32 am Maybe we need a new topic—how the claims of the left are being exposed as frauds—by the left

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/493285-leading ... -cenzored/

"On behalf of environmentalists, I apologize for the climate scare. Climate change is real but it's not the end of the world.
It's not even our most important environmental problem. Once you realize just how badly misinformed we have been ...
it is hard not to feel duped.—Michael Shellenberger, green environmentalist

Woodrow Wilson—the father of modern liberal progressivism a flaming racist.—Princeton

Six decades of uninterrupted liberal democrat rule in Americas major cities result in failure—BLM

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:33 am

6ftstick wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:32 am Maybe we need a new topic—how the claims of the left are being exposed as frauds—by the left

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/493285-leading ... -cenzored/

"On behalf of environmentalists, I apologize for the climate scare. Climate change is real but it's not the end of the world.
It's not even our most important environmental problem. Once you realize just how badly misinformed we have been ...
it is hard not to feel duped.—Michael Shellenberger, green environmentalist

Woodrow Wilson—the father of modern liberal progressivism a flaming racist.—Princeton

Six decades of uninterrupted liberal democrat rule in Americas major cities result in failure—BLM

This is amazing.

Here are his takeaways:

- Humans are not causing a “sixth mass extinction”
– The Amazon is not “the lungs of the world”
– Climate change is not making natural disasters worse
– Fires have declined 25% around the world since 2003
– The amount of land we use for meat humankind’s biggest use of land
has declined by an area nearly as large as Alaska
– The build-up of wood fuel and more houses near forests, not climate
change, explain why there are more, and more dangerous, fires in
Australia and California
– Carbon emissions have been declining in rich nations for decades and
peaked in Britain, Germany and France in the mid-seventies
– Adapting to life below sea level made the Netherlands rich not poor
– We produce 25% more food than we need and food surpluses will
continue to rise as the world gets hotter
– Habitat loss and the direct killing of wild animals are bigger threats to
species than climate change
– Wood fuel is far worse for people and wildlife than fossil fuels
– Preventing future pandemics requires more not less “industrial”
agriculture


Is it not stunning to anyone who professes to believe in speech that climate wackos got this editorial removed? Amazing. Total fascists the left.

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 1:58 pm

Capital Weather Gang

Parts of Siberia are hotter than Washington, with temperatures nearly 40 degrees above average

Snow cover is disappearing, sea ice is melting and fires, including possible ‘zombie’ blazes, are raging.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/ ... heat-wave/

Siberia is in the throes of a heat wave that would be considered warm even by the standards of those living outside the Arctic Circle.

In Washington, for example, the temperature has been stuck in the 60s all week, reaching a maximum of 73 degrees on Thursday. Yet several temperature stations in North Central Siberia, including areas near or above the Arctic Circle, are seeing temperatures climb well into the 80s.

The Siberian warmth so far in May is not a fluke event, either, instead it’s been a consistent feature since this winter. Temperature departures from average in Europe and Asia have helped push global average surface temperatures to record highs so far this year, and on global temperature maps, these regions stand out as splotches of crimson red.

The warmth in Siberia is already having repercussions on Arctic ecosystems, with unusually large Siberian wildfires already burning this year, snow cover plummeting unusually quickly and sea ice cover in areas such as the Kara Sea, which lies to the north of Central Siberia, at a record low for the date, having begun its seasonal melt more than a month earlier than is typical.

According to Zack Labe, a graduate student at the University of California at Irvine who researches Arctic climate change, what has recently been taking place in Siberia has been extraordinary.

“Although Siberia is known for wild temperature swings, the persistence and magnitude of warmth over the region so far this year has been astonishing,” he said via email. “This week is an example of an extreme event, with summer-like temperatures over parts of Western Siberia thanks to a strong upper level ridge. We can already see this reflected in snow cover data, as there are large negative departures of snow extent stretching across the entire Siberian coast of the Arctic,” he said.

Labe noted that sea ice in the Kara Sea has reached a record low for the date, and ice cover is thinner than average along the entire coastline of northern Siberia. He said said the warmth is likely conditioning the ice to melt further by melting snow cover lying on top of the sea ice.

This turns highly reflective ice cover into snow and ice that has a lower reflectivity, known as its albedo, which means that it absorbs more incoming solar radiation.

“This may make the sea ice more vulnerable to melting later in the summer, if weather conditions permit. Overall, the weather patterns in June through August will dictate the extent of melting closer to the September minimum,” Labe said.

So far this year, Siberian fires have gotten off to a fast, and unusually expansive, start. Russian officials have stated they expect this summer will potentially be the hottest the region has seen, with an unusually destructive fire season. Fires in the vast forests of Siberia burned 7 million acres last year, an area greater than the size of Maryland, and sent smoke drifting around the world.

there have been trends of fires showing up shortly after snow cover melts, which is a topic of discussion in the fire science community. Some scientists are noting how quickly the hot spots are showing up on satellite imagery and questioning whether these are actually “zombie fires" from last summer that survived the winter by burning in layers of vegetation under the snow.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:33 am

6ftstick wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:32 am Maybe we need a new topic—how the claims of the left are being exposed as frauds—by the left

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/493285-leading ... -cenzored/

"On behalf of environmentalists, I apologize for the climate scare. Climate change is real but it's not the end of the world.
It's not even our most important environmental problem. Once you realize just how badly misinformed we have been ...
it is hard not to feel duped.—Michael Shellenberger, green environmentalist

Woodrow Wilson—the father of modern liberal progressivism a flaming racist.—Princeton

Six decades of uninterrupted liberal democrat rule in Americas major cities result in failure—BLM

This is amazing.

Here are his takeaways:

- Humans are not causing a “sixth mass extinction”
– The Amazon is not “the lungs of the world”
– Climate change is not making natural disasters worse
– Fires have declined 25% around the world since 2003
– The amount of land we use for meat humankind’s biggest use of land
has declined by an area nearly as large as Alaska
– The build-up of wood fuel and more houses near forests, not climate
change, explain why there are more, and more dangerous, fires in
Australia and California
– Carbon emissions have been declining in rich nations for decades and
peaked in Britain, Germany and France in the mid-seventies
– Adapting to life below sea level made the Netherlands rich not poor
– We produce 25% more food than we need and food surpluses will
continue to rise as the world gets hotter
– Habitat loss and the direct killing of wild animals are bigger threats to
species than climate change
– Wood fuel is far worse for people and wildlife than fossil fuels
– Preventing future pandemics requires more not less “industrial”
agriculture


Is it not stunning to anyone who professes to believe in speech that climate wackos got this editorial removed? Amazing. Total fascists the left.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:36 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:33 am

6ftstick wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:32 am Maybe we need a new topic—how the claims of the left are being exposed as frauds—by the left

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/493285-leading ... -cenzored/

"On behalf of environmentalists, I apologize for the climate scare. Climate change is real but it's not the end of the world.
It's not even our most important environmental problem. Once you realize just how badly misinformed we have been ...
it is hard not to feel duped.—Michael Shellenberger, green environmentalist

Woodrow Wilson—the father of modern liberal progressivism a flaming racist.—Princeton

Six decades of uninterrupted liberal democrat rule in Americas major cities result in failure—BLM

This is amazing.

Here are his takeaways:

- Humans are not causing a “sixth mass extinction”
– The Amazon is not “the lungs of the world”
– Climate change is not making natural disasters worse
– Fires have declined 25% around the world since 2003
– The amount of land we use for meat humankind’s biggest use of land
has declined by an area nearly as large as Alaska
– The build-up of wood fuel and more houses near forests, not climate
change, explain why there are more, and more dangerous, fires in
Australia and California
– Carbon emissions have been declining in rich nations for decades and
peaked in Britain, Germany and France in the mid-seventies
– Adapting to life below sea level made the Netherlands rich not poor
– We produce 25% more food than we need and food surpluses will
continue to rise as the world gets hotter
– Habitat loss and the direct killing of wild animals are bigger threats to
species than climate change
– Wood fuel is far worse for people and wildlife than fossil fuels
– Preventing future pandemics requires more not less “industrial”
agriculture


Is it not stunning to anyone who professes to believe in speech that climate wackos got this editorial removed? Amazing. Total fascists the left.

Never heard of the guy. No idea who he was until I looked him up on Wikipedia. He is a freaking author with no scientific background.

I do know the Russian propaganda rag that the article appeared in.


Here is my takeaway - If brains were dynamite, the whole climate denying world couldn't blow off their own noses.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:36 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:33 am

6ftstick wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:32 am Maybe we need a new topic—how the claims of the left are being exposed as frauds—by the left

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/493285-leading ... -cenzored/

"On behalf of environmentalists, I apologize for the climate scare. Climate change is real but it's not the end of the world.
It's not even our most important environmental problem. Once you realize just how badly misinformed we have been ...
it is hard not to feel duped.—Michael Shellenberger, green environmentalist

Woodrow Wilson—the father of modern liberal progressivism a flaming racist.—Princeton

Six decades of uninterrupted liberal democrat rule in Americas major cities result in failure—BLM

This is amazing.

Here are his takeaways:

- Humans are not causing a “sixth mass extinction”
– The Amazon is not “the lungs of the world”
– Climate change is not making natural disasters worse
– Fires have declined 25% around the world since 2003
– The amount of land we use for meat humankind’s biggest use of land
has declined by an area nearly as large as Alaska
– The build-up of wood fuel and more houses near forests, not climate
change, explain why there are more, and more dangerous, fires in
Australia and California
– Carbon emissions have been declining in rich nations for decades and
peaked in Britain, Germany and France in the mid-seventies
– Adapting to life below sea level made the Netherlands rich not poor
– We produce 25% more food than we need and food surpluses will
continue to rise as the world gets hotter
– Habitat loss and the direct killing of wild animals are bigger threats to
species than climate change
– Wood fuel is far worse for people and wildlife than fossil fuels
– Preventing future pandemics requires more not less “industrial”
agriculture


Is it not stunning to anyone who professes to believe in speech that climate wackos got this editorial removed? Amazing. Total fascists the left.

Never heard of the guy. No idea who he was until I looked him up on Wikipedia. He is a freaking author with no scientific background.

I do know the Russian propaganda rag that the article appeared in.


Here is my takeaway - If brains were dynamite, the whole climate denying world couldn't blow off their own noses.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:22 pm … right wing Christian nuts.

jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:36 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:33 am

6ftstick wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:32 am Maybe we need a new topic—how the claims of the left are being exposed as frauds—by the left

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/493285-leading ... -cenzored/

"On behalf of environmentalists, I apologize for the climate scare. Climate change is real but it's not the end of the world.
It's not even our most important environmental problem. Once you realize just how badly misinformed we have been ...
it is hard not to feel duped.—Michael Shellenberger, green environmentalist

Woodrow Wilson—the father of modern liberal progressivism a flaming racist.—Princeton

Six decades of uninterrupted liberal democrat rule in Americas major cities result in failure—BLM

This is amazing.

Here are his takeaways:

- Humans are not causing a “sixth mass extinction”
– The Amazon is not “the lungs of the world”
– Climate change is not making natural disasters worse
– Fires have declined 25% around the world since 2003
– The amount of land we use for meat humankind’s biggest use of land
has declined by an area nearly as large as Alaska
– The build-up of wood fuel and more houses near forests, not climate
change, explain why there are more, and more dangerous, fires in
Australia and California
– Carbon emissions have been declining in rich nations for decades and
peaked in Britain, Germany and France in the mid-seventies
– Adapting to life below sea level made the Netherlands rich not poor
– We produce 25% more food than we need and food surpluses will
continue to rise as the world gets hotter
– Habitat loss and the direct killing of wild animals are bigger threats to
species than climate change
– Wood fuel is far worse for people and wildlife than fossil fuels
– Preventing future pandemics requires more not less “industrial”
agriculture


Is it not stunning to anyone who professes to believe in speech that climate wackos got this editorial removed? Amazing. Total fascists the left.

Never heard of the guy. No idea who he was until I looked him up on Wikipedia. He is a freaking author with no scientific background.

I do know the Russian propaganda rag that the article appeared in.


Here is my takeaway - If brains were dynamite, the whole climate denying world couldn't blow off their own noses.