All Things Environment

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.masterresource.org/climate- ... te-change/

I know Dr Spencer is as popular to some folks here as a case of the clap. This article is worth a read. If you are capable of still having an open mind on the subject.

It is perhaps true that there could be some other cause for the Global warming, at least, in part.
It is fair to note that Spencer's list was written 9 years before the 2018 article you link to, or in 2009.
Since 2009, the world temperature has pretty steadily gone up and by .32 degrees. This increase has caused more and more people to believe the increase in Greenhouse gas is most likely the major cause.
Further, the amount of Greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is something that man can change over time.

Don't confuse him with science.

Guess you climate changer global warmers missed this earlier. Science has nothing to do with it.

1.In 1989, the Associated Press relayed a warning from a U.N. official:

"A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000."

2. The same U.N. official who predicted the loss of entire nations by the year 2000 also claimed: "the most conservative scientific estimate [is] that the Earth’s temperature will rise 1 to 7 degrees in the next 30 years.”

But looking back from 2019, the temperature rose about half of a degree Celsius since 1989, according to NASA.

3. In 2006, while promoting his movie “An Inconvenient Truth”, Al Gore said that humanity had only 10 years left before the world would reach a point of no return.

Gore’s movie also featured animations of water inundating Manhattan and Florida.

4. In 1982, U.N. official Mostafa Tolba, executive director of the UN Environment Program, warned:

“By the turn of the century, an environmental catastrophe will witness devastation as complete, as irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust.”

5. In 1970, Sen. Gaylord Nelson, D-Wisc., – often considered the “father of Earth Day” – cited the secretary of the Smithsonian, who “believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”

6. Economist Walter E. Williams says environmentalists have occasionally tipped their hand about what motivates their predictions.

"We have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have,” Stephen Schneider, a professor of Biology at Stanford University, said to Discover magazine in 1989. “Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.”

7. in 1988 Timothy Wirth, a Democrat from Colorado said: "We've got to ... try to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong ... we will be doing the right thing anyway in terms of economic policy and environmental policy."

In geological terms, there is no difference between the year 2000 and the year 2100.

https://www.slideshare.net/mobile/lschm ... le-4559770

Btw, Trump was wrong just last month.

[Cooter]

2. The same U.N. official who predicted the loss of entire nations by the year 2000 also claimed: "the most conservative scientific estimate [is] that the Earth’s temperature will rise 1 to 7 degrees in the next 30 years.”

But looking back from 2019, the temperature rose about half of a degree Celsius since 1989, according to NASA.

It actually rose .71 degrees from 1989 to 2019. Using the lowess smoothing curve .65 degrees from 1989 to 2019
Change in the Lowess curve:
1989 - 1999 .14 degrees
1999- 2009 .17 degrees
2009 - 2019 .34 degrees
So the rate of warming is getting greater - not a good sign.
NASA data
https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/gl ... mperature/
Year No-Smoothing Lowess
1985 0.12 0.22
1986 0.18 0.24
1987 0.32 0.27
1988 0.38 0.30
1989 0.27 0.33
1990 0.45 0.33
1991 0.40 0.32
1992 0.22 0.33
1993 0.23 0.33
1994 0.31 0.34
1995 0.45 0.37
1996 0.33 0.40
1997 0.46 0.42
1998 0.61 0.45
1999 0.39 0.47
2000 0.40 0.50
2001 0.54 0.53
2002 0.63 0.55
2003 0.62 0.59
2004 0.54 0.61
2005 0.68 0.62
2006 0.64 0.63
2007 0.66 0.63
2008 0.54 0.64
2009 0.66 0.64
2010 0.72 0.65
2011 0.61 0.66
2012 0.64 0.70
2013 0.68 0.74
2014 0.75 0.79
2015 0.90 0.83
2016 1.02 0.87
2017 0.92 0.91
2018 0.85 0.95
2019 0.98 0.98

[cradleandshoot]

https://www.masterresource.org/climate- ... te-change/

I know Dr Spencer is as popular to some folks here as a case of the clap. This article is worth a read. If you are capable of still having an open mind on the subject.

It is perhaps true that there could be some other cause for the Global warming, at least, in part.
It is fair to note that Spencer's list was written 9 years before the 2018 article you link to, or in 2009.
Since 2009, the world temperature has pretty steadily gone up and by .32 degrees. This increase has caused more and more people to believe the increase in Greenhouse gas is most likely the major cause.
Further, the amount of Greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is something that man can change over time.

Dr Spencer has brought up a number of times that the method for calculator the earth temperature is not all that accurate. No one knows exactly how the UHI should be calculated into the mix. The UHI is the Urban Heat Islands and the spikes in them tend to skew the temperature calculations.

https://weather.com/science/weather-exp ... rbs-cooler

There is also the factor of where the readings are being taken from at any given point on the planet.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/06/las ... corrected/

[cradleandshoot]

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/michael- ... s-science/

Well said Mr Crichton well said

https://judithcurry.com/2019/12/14/the- ... te-change/

[Cooter]

https://www.masterresource.org/climate- ... te-change/

I know Dr Spencer is as popular to some folks here as a case of the clap. This article is worth a read. If you are capable of still having an open mind on the subject.

It is perhaps true that there could be some other cause for the Global warming, at least, in part.
It is fair to note that Spencer's list was written 9 years before the 2018 article you link to, or in 2009.
Since 2009, the world temperature has pretty steadily gone up and by .32 degrees. This increase has caused more and more people to believe the increase in Greenhouse gas is most likely the major cause.
Further, the amount of Greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is something that man can change over time.

Dr Spencer has brought up a number of times that the method for calculator the earth temperature is not all that accurate. No one knows exactly how the UHI should be calculated into the mix. The UHI is the Urban Heat Islands and the spikes in them tend to skew the temperature calculations.

https://weather.com/science/weather-exp ... rbs-cooler

There is also the factor of where the readings are being taken from at any given point on the planet.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/06/las ... corrected/

Of course, we have the various effects of the warming to support the data.

[cradleandshoot]

https://www.masterresource.org/climate- ... te-change/

I know Dr Spencer is as popular to some folks here as a case of the clap. This article is worth a read. If you are capable of still having an open mind on the subject.

It is perhaps true that there could be some other cause for the Global warming, at least, in part.
It is fair to note that Spencer's list was written 9 years before the 2018 article you link to, or in 2009.
Since 2009, the world temperature has pretty steadily gone up and by .32 degrees. This increase has caused more and more people to believe the increase in Greenhouse gas is most likely the major cause.
Further, the amount of Greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is something that man can change over time.

Dr Spencer has brought up a number of times that the method for calculator the earth temperature is not all that accurate. No one knows exactly how the UHI should be calculated into the mix. The UHI is the Urban Heat Islands and the spikes in them tend to skew the temperature calculations.

https://weather.com/science/weather-exp ... rbs-cooler

There is also the factor of where the readings are being taken from at any given point on the planet.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/06/las ... corrected/

Of course, we have the various effects of the warming to support the data.

What effects are those and how can they be proven to be related to CC? Forest fires have occurred all of my 62 years on this planet. Hurricanes have occurred during all of my 62 years on the planet. After Katrina we were told to expect these monsters every year. It was 17 years before another hurricane hit landfall in the USA. If you are looking for consistency predicated on predictions the CC/GW people really need to get their stuff together.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/11/north-d ... -wind.html

[RedFromMI]

https://www.masterresource.org/climate- ... te-change/

I know Dr Spencer is as popular to some folks here as a case of the clap. This article is worth a read. If you are capable of still having an open mind on the subject.

It is perhaps true that there could be some other cause for the Global warming, at least, in part.
It is fair to note that Spencer's list was written 9 years before the 2018 article you link to, or in 2009.
Since 2009, the world temperature has pretty steadily gone up and by .32 degrees. This increase has caused more and more people to believe the increase in Greenhouse gas is most likely the major cause.
Further, the amount of Greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is something that man can change over time.

Dr Spencer has brought up a number of times that the method for calculator the earth temperature is not all that accurate. No one knows exactly how the UHI should be calculated into the mix. The UHI is the Urban Heat Islands and the spikes in them tend to skew the temperature calculations.

https://weather.com/science/weather-exp ... rbs-cooler

There is also the factor of where the readings are being taken from at any given point on the planet.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/06/las ... corrected/

Of course, we have the various effects of the warming to support the data.

What effects are those and how can they be proven to be related to CC? Forest fires have occurred all of my 62 years on this planet. Hurricanes have occurred during all of my 62 years on the planet. After Katrina we were told to expect these monsters every year. It was 17 years before another hurricane hit landfall in the USA. If you are looking for consistency predicated on predictions the CC/GW people really need to get their stuff together.

Try the following series that recently won the Pulitzer prize for explanatory reporting:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/pr/2020/ ... rc404=true

[Peter Brown]

It's too fun dunking on the Global Warming crowd when their hysteria predictions come undone.

I'm wondering if they understand what 'warm' actually means?

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather- ... rds/737126

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.masterresource.org/climate- ... te-change/

I know Dr Spencer is as popular to some folks here as a case of the clap. This article is worth a read. If you are capable of still having an open mind on the subject.

It is perhaps true that there could be some other cause for the Global warming, at least, in part.
It is fair to note that Spencer's list was written 9 years before the 2018 article you link to, or in 2009.
Since 2009, the world temperature has pretty steadily gone up and by .32 degrees. This increase has caused more and more people to believe the increase in Greenhouse gas is most likely the major cause.
Further, the amount of Greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is something that man can change over time.

Dr Spencer has brought up a number of times that the method for calculator the earth temperature is not all that accurate. No one knows exactly how the UHI should be calculated into the mix. The UHI is the Urban Heat Islands and the spikes in them tend to skew the temperature calculations.

https://weather.com/science/weather-exp ... rbs-cooler

There is also the factor of where the readings are being taken from at any given point on the planet.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/06/las ... corrected/

Of course, we have the various effects of the warming to support the data.

What effects are those and how can they be proven to be related to CC? Forest fires have occurred all of my 62 years on this planet. Hurricanes have occurred during all of my 62 years on the planet. After Katrina we were told to expect these monsters every year. It was 17 years before another hurricane hit landfall in the USA. If you are looking for consistency predicated on predictions the CC/GW people really need to get their stuff together.

Try the following series that recently won the Pulitzer prize for explanatory reporting:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/pr/2020/ ... rc404=true

Was that Pulitzer or Noble Prize?

[SCLaxAttack]

https://www.masterresource.org/climate- ... te-change/

I know Dr Spencer is as popular to some folks here as a case of the clap. This article is worth a read. If you are capable of still having an open mind on the subject.

It is perhaps true that there could be some other cause for the Global warming, at least, in part.
It is fair to note that Spencer's list was written 9 years before the 2018 article you link to, or in 2009.
Since 2009, the world temperature has pretty steadily gone up and by .32 degrees. This increase has caused more and more people to believe the increase in Greenhouse gas is most likely the major cause.
Further, the amount of Greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is something that man can change over time.

Dr Spencer has brought up a number of times that the method for calculator the earth temperature is not all that accurate. No one knows exactly how the UHI should be calculated into the mix. The UHI is the Urban Heat Islands and the spikes in them tend to skew the temperature calculations.

https://weather.com/science/weather-exp ... rbs-cooler

There is also the factor of where the readings are being taken from at any given point on the planet.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/06/las ... corrected/

Of course, we have the various effects of the warming to support the data.

What effects are those and how can they be proven to be related to CC? Forest fires have occurred all of my 62 years on this planet. Hurricanes have occurred during all of my 62 years on the planet. After Katrina we were told to expect these monsters every year. It was 17 years before another hurricane hit landfall in the USA. If you are looking for consistency predicated on predictions the CC/GW people really need to get their stuff together.

Crades, care to edit the sentence I bolded and its connection to your logic thereafter? I'm certain we've had hurricanes hit the US since 2005, and will probably have more before 2023.

[holmes435]

It's too fun dunking on the Global Warming crowd when their hysteria predictions come undone.

I'm wondering if they understand what 'warm' actually means?

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather- ... rds/737126

You're dunking on your own goal with that one.

[RedFromMI]

It's too fun dunking on the Global Warming crowd when their hysteria predictions come undone.

I'm wondering if they understand what 'warm' actually means?

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather- ... rds/737126

You're dunking on your own goal with that one.

I don’t think he comprehends that.

Maybe PB thinks the fact we have winter means we cannot possibly have climate change.

[Peter Brown]

It's too fun dunking on the Global Warming crowd when their hysteria predictions come undone.

I'm wondering if they understand what 'warm' actually means?

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather- ... rds/737126

You're dunking on your own goal with that one.

I don’t think he comprehends that.

Maybe PB thinks the fact we have winter means we cannot possibly have climate change.

The funniest thing about the Global Warming crowd isn't their leaders don't buy their own bs (Obama buys a mansion on the Martha's Vineyard water); granted, that is funny.

No, the funniest thing about Global Warming is hard money ain't buying the pitch. Behold the price and volume of Vail single family housing in 2019! I'd think we'd be out of snow by now, no?!?!? Spoiler alert: prices ain't going down...

https://www.vaildaily.com/real-estate/l ... hout-2019/

[get it to x]

It's too fun dunking on the Global Warming crowd when their hysteria predictions come undone.

I'm wondering if they understand what 'warm' actually means?

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather- ... rds/737126

You're dunking on your own goal with that one.

I don’t think he comprehends that.

Maybe PB thinks the fact we have winter means we cannot possibly have climate change.

The funniest thing about the Global Warming crowd isn't their leaders don't buy their own bs (Obama buys a mansion on the Martha's Vineyard water); granted, that is funny.

No, the funniest thing about Global Warming is hard money ain't buying the pitch. Behold the price and volume of Vail single family housing in 2019! I'd think we'd be out of snow by now, no?!?!? Spoiler alert: prices ain't going down...

https://www.vaildaily.com/real-estate/l ... hout-2019/

You could argue his house is on a bluff well above sea level. How about this near sea level, barrier island property? Only $137,500,000.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandho ... 11180235:s

Of course, it's been on the market for a little over a year, so maybe the "Smart Set" isn't buying because of the sea level rise.

[Peter Brown]

It's too fun dunking on the Global Warming crowd when their hysteria predictions come undone.

I'm wondering if they understand what 'warm' actually means?

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather- ... rds/737126

You're dunking on your own goal with that one.

I don’t think he comprehends that.

Maybe PB thinks the fact we have winter means we cannot possibly have climate change.

The funniest thing about the Global Warming crowd isn't their leaders don't buy their own bs (Obama buys a mansion on the Martha's Vineyard water); granted, that is funny.

No, the funniest thing about Global Warming is hard money ain't buying the pitch. Behold the price and volume of Vail single family housing in 2019! I'd think we'd be out of snow by now, no?!?!? Spoiler alert: prices ain't going down...

https://www.vaildaily.com/real-estate/l ... hout-2019/

You could argue his house is on a bluff well above sea level. How about this near sea level, barrier island property? Only $137,500,000.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandho ... 11180235:s

Of course, it's been on the market for a little over a year, so maybe the "Smart Set" isn't buying because of the sea level rise.

lol...I know someone who has looked at that place and considered an offer but sub-$100mm. Property taxes above $1,000,000/year.

[cradleandshoot]

https://www.masterresource.org/climate- ... te-change/

I know Dr Spencer is as popular to some folks here as a case of the clap. This article is worth a read. If you are capable of still having an open mind on the subject.

It is perhaps true that there could be some other cause for the Global warming, at least, in part.
It is fair to note that Spencer's list was written 9 years before the 2018 article you link to, or in 2009.
Since 2009, the world temperature has pretty steadily gone up and by .32 degrees. This increase has caused more and more people to believe the increase in Greenhouse gas is most likely the major cause.
Further, the amount of Greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is something that man can change over time.

Dr Spencer has brought up a number of times that the method for calculator the earth temperature is not all that accurate. No one knows exactly how the UHI should be calculated into the mix. The UHI is the Urban Heat Islands and the spikes in them tend to skew the temperature calculations.

https://weather.com/science/weather-exp ... rbs-cooler

There is also the factor of where the readings are being taken from at any given point on the planet.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/06/las ... corrected/

Of course, we have the various effects of the warming to support the data.

What effects are those and how can they be proven to be related to CC? Forest fires have occurred all of my 62 years on this planet. Hurricanes have occurred during all of my 62 years on the planet. After Katrina we were told to expect these monsters every year. It was 17 years before another hurricane hit landfall in the USA. If you are looking for consistency predicated on predictions the CC/GW people really need to get their stuff together.

Crades, care to edit the sentence I bolded and its connection to your logic thereafter? I'm certain we've had hurricanes hit the US since 2005, and will probably have more before 2023.

The last MAJOR Hurricane was Irma in 2017 which was a Cat 4 storm. There were 2 smaller storms in 2016 which were Cat 1 and Cat 2 storms. There were many folks screaming after Katrina that these storms would be the new normal. We were suppose to be hit by several of them every year. If I remember correctly, that never happened.

[SCLaxAttack]

https://www.masterresource.org/climate- ... te-change/

I know Dr Spencer is as popular to some folks here as a case of the clap. This article is worth a read. If you are capable of still having an open mind on the subject.

It is perhaps true that there could be some other cause for the Global warming, at least, in part.
It is fair to note that Spencer's list was written 9 years before the 2018 article you link to, or in 2009.
Since 2009, the world temperature has pretty steadily gone up and by .32 degrees. This increase has caused more and more people to believe the increase in Greenhouse gas is most likely the major cause.
Further, the amount of Greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is something that man can change over time.

Dr Spencer has brought up a number of times that the method for calculator the earth temperature is not all that accurate. No one knows exactly how the UHI should be calculated into the mix. The UHI is the Urban Heat Islands and the spikes in them tend to skew the temperature calculations.

https://weather.com/science/weather-exp ... rbs-cooler

There is also the factor of where the readings are being taken from at any given point on the planet.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/06/las ... corrected/

Of course, we have the various effects of the warming to support the data.

What effects are those and how can they be proven to be related to CC? Forest fires have occurred all of my 62 years on this planet. Hurricanes have occurred during all of my 62 years on the planet. After Katrina we were told to expect these monsters every year. It was 17 years before another hurricane hit landfall in the USA. If you are looking for consistency predicated on predictions the CC/GW people really need to get their stuff together.

Crades, care to edit the sentence I bolded and its connection to your logic thereafter? I'm certain we've had hurricanes hit the US since 2005, and will probably have more before 2023.

The last MAJOR Hurricane was Irma in 2017 which was a Cat 4 storm. There were 2 smaller storms in 2016 which were Cat 1 and Cat 2 storms. There were many folks screaming after Katrina that these storms would be the new normal. We were suppose to be hit by several of them every year. If I remember correctly, that never happened.

Let’s ignore that according to your explanation the number should have been 12 and not 17.

I’m not suggesting that hurricanes are even a valid indicator of climate change, but if you look at this chart you’ll see that with the exception of a few outlying stretches of one-three years (El Nino, La Niña effect), the number of named storms, hurricanes, and severe hurricanes has increased pretty significantly since 1995 compared to the period 1851-1994. http://www.stormfax.com/huryear.htm

[Peter Brown]

https://www.masterresource.org/climate- ... te-change/

I know Dr Spencer is as popular to some folks here as a case of the clap. This article is worth a read. If you are capable of still having an open mind on the subject.

It is perhaps true that there could be some other cause for the Global warming, at least, in part.
It is fair to note that Spencer's list was written 9 years before the 2018 article you link to, or in 2009.
Since 2009, the world temperature has pretty steadily gone up and by .32 degrees. This increase has caused more and more people to believe the increase in Greenhouse gas is most likely the major cause.
Further, the amount of Greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is something that man can change over time.

Dr Spencer has brought up a number of times that the method for calculator the earth temperature is not all that accurate. No one knows exactly how the UHI should be calculated into the mix. The UHI is the Urban Heat Islands and the spikes in them tend to skew the temperature calculations.

https://weather.com/science/weather-exp ... rbs-cooler

There is also the factor of where the readings are being taken from at any given point on the planet.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2014/06/las ... corrected/

Of course, we have the various effects of the warming to support the data.

What effects are those and how can they be proven to be related to CC? Forest fires have occurred all of my 62 years on this planet. Hurricanes have occurred during all of my 62 years on the planet. After Katrina we were told to expect these monsters every year. It was 17 years before another hurricane hit landfall in the USA. If you are looking for consistency predicated on predictions the CC/GW people really need to get their stuff together.

Crades, care to edit the sentence I bolded and its connection to your logic thereafter? I'm certain we've had hurricanes hit the US since 2005, and will probably have more before 2023.

The last MAJOR Hurricane was Irma in 2017 which was a Cat 4 storm. There were 2 smaller storms in 2016 which were Cat 1 and Cat 2 storms. There were many folks screaming after Katrina that these storms would be the new normal. We were suppose to be hit by several of them every year. If I remember correctly, that never happened.

Let’s ignore that according to your explanation the number should have been 12 and not 17.

I’m not suggesting that hurricanes are even a valid indicator of climate change, but if you look at this chart you’ll see that with the exception of a few outlying stretches of one-three years (El Nino, La Niña effect), the number of named storms, hurricanes, and severe hurricanes has increased pretty significantly since 1995 compared to the period 1851-1994. http://www.stormfax.com/huryear.htm

If it rains more than half an inch now, the Weather Channel and all government agencies name it. It's the most sensationalist stupidity in the universe anymore, weather. Tons of scared housefraus sit at home in the Northeast eating their jelly donuts watching Ellen and The View, and god forbid there is a drop of rain outside...the Weather Channel, NHC, and every other grifting weather wacko issue storm alerts. Al Roker will let you know that "55 MILLION PEOPLE ARE IN THE WAY OF APOCALYPTIC TORRENTIAL RAIN!!!!!' (howard dean scream please, dems!)

What a joke. I honestly do not know how most of you Dems survive day to day: scared of rain, scared of cold, scared of heat, scared of change. TDS has further ruined your ability to think.

Get out of the way and let real men run this bad boy country! Also, back to work!

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/13/three-b ... 0-wef.html