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flalax22 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:33 pm When was the last time a MIAA recruit not named Brown lived up to or exceeded expectations with the Jays?

flalax22 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:33 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:14 pm

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:55 pm

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:43 pm can you explain how a league, like the MIAA, can be so bi polar? St. Mary's wins the title, and the very next year wins only one game. What gives? Why aren't there back to back champions in the MIAA?

Is it your mission in life to be wrong about everything? Calvert Hall has won three straight titles.

If it was actually a serious question, I'd say that with rare exceptions, the title most frequently is won by the team that happens to have the best senior class, and that tends to not run in long streaks. (there's an interesting phenomenon right now, though, that is leading to dominance by a particular program, but don't expect that to remain that way forever).

And we often see upsets down the stretch. Which will happen when we're talking about a whole bunch of good teams, chock a block with excellent players, who 'mature' as a team over the course of a season, go on runs, etc. The St. Mary's example being one in which a dominant FOGO and a strong accompanying class got on a heck of a roll, having backed into the tournament. Big senior class then graduated, next bunch did not gel the same way.

The 2011 run by Gilman culminating in a dominating win over CHC in the Final was another such unlikely winner, albeit Gilman was definitely deserving of top 4 status, and was such the following year as well...but down 6-3 with 1:27 left to play, and down net 2 men? (3 out to BL's 1)...no way they make it to the final. But they did.

Lots of such examples of late season runs...

I have zero comprehension on what RRR is alluding to re RPI etc...non-factor in MIAA.

But why are we discussing this on a Hopkins thread???

It probably stems from my speculation that the Jays loading up on MIAA talent is over. Now I will agree these are generalizations but there is a perception that the Maryland kids we have got while skilled are soft, entitled and many have felt they accomplished something just by putting on the jersey. When was the last time a MIAA recruit not named Brown lived up to or exceeded expectations with the Jays?

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:06 pm

flalax22 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:33 pm When was the last time a MIAA recruit not named Brown lived up to or exceeded expectations with the Jays?

Not allowing Brown in the discussion is a little bit "Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln" but I digress. How often has a recruit from ANY league materially exceeded expectations for us? Maybe Crawley? Durkin? It hasn't seemed to happen much in the last several years no matter where a recruit played in high school. One could argue that is more a player development and/or widespread recruiting issue than it is something to do with a specific league in a specific state. I could point to lots and lots of MIAA players on other teams who greatly exceeded expectations coming out of high school. You don't have to venture much further than 5 minutes up Charles Street to one Pat Spencer.

I think we're less likely to see MIAA kids because Milliman just doesn't have the recruiting connections there yet and because it's clear they want to run a box-esque offense—not because of any perceptions about them or some belief that they don't pan out. I think we'll see plenty on defense (they're keeping a kid from St. Mary's and added an LB goalie to the '21 class) but, sure, on offense I think we're going to see less MIAA X attackman quarterback types because of the style of offense they are installing.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:24 pm

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:03 pm

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:55 pm

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:43 pm can you explain how a league, like the MIAA, can be so bi polar? St. Mary's wins the title, and the very next year wins only one game. What gives? Why aren't there back to back champions in the MIAA?

Is it your mission in life to be wrong about everything? Calvert Hall has won three straight titles.

Really? I had NO idea.......

Who won the Massachusettes Div. 1 championship in 2019? Did they repeat? How about New Hampshire publics? The ISL, while they were going to have it this year, (real playoffs, like the women ) who has won the ISL championship in the past? Lawrence Academy or BB&N?

Remember pounding Kingswood Oxford in HIGH school.........Founders league champions for decades.

Ty evah been to the Yankee Candle workshop and the snowing room .....just down the road from you know which school. It rhymes with Deerfield.

Why would you care about any of this, and why discuss on the Hopkins thread?

It's irrelevant.

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:06 pm

flalax22 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:33 pm When was the last time a MIAA recruit not named Brown lived up to or exceeded expectations with the Jays?

Not allowing Brown in the discussion is a little bit "Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln" but I digress. How often has a recruit from ANY league materially exceeded expectations for us? Maybe Crawley? Durkin? It hasn't seemed to happen much in the last several years no matter where a recruit played in high school. One could argue that is more a player development and/or widespread recruiting issue than it is something to do with a specific league in a specific state. I could point to lots and lots of MIAA players on other teams who greatly exceeded expectations coming out of high school. You don't have to venture much further than 5 minutes up Charles Street to one Pat Spencer.

I think we're less likely to see MIAA kids because Milliman just doesn't have the recruiting connections there yet and because it's clear they want to run a box-esque offense—not because of any perceptions about them or some belief that they don't pan out. I think we'll see plenty on defense (they're keeping a kid from St. Mary's and added an LB goalie to the '21 class) but, sure, on offense I think we're going to see less MIAA X attackman quarterback types because of the style of offense they are installing.

WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:05 pm Win, and the recruiting pipeline will get better from all directions.

JUST WIN.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:48 pm

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:06 pm

flalax22 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:33 pm When was the last time a MIAA recruit not named Brown lived up to or exceeded expectations with the Jays?

Not allowing Brown in the discussion is a little bit "Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln" but I digress. How often has a recruit from ANY league materially exceeded expectations for us? Maybe Crawley? Durkin? It hasn't seemed to happen much in the last several years no matter where a recruit played in high school. One could argue that is more a player development and/or widespread recruiting issue than it is something to do with a specific league in a specific state. I could point to lots and lots of MIAA players on other teams who greatly exceeded expectations coming out of high school. You don't have to venture much further than 5 minutes up Charles Street to one Pat Spencer.

I think we're less likely to see MIAA kids because Milliman just doesn't have the recruiting connections there yet and because it's clear they want to run a box-esque offense—not because of any perceptions about them or some belief that they don't pan out. I think we'll see plenty on defense (they're keeping a kid from St. Mary's and added an LB goalie to the '21 class) but, sure, on offense I think we're going to see less MIAA X attackman quarterback types because of the style of offense they are installing.

Flalax, ok, thanks for sticking up your hand to explain RRR's grinding...

However I think '16 is right on point re Mrs. Lincoln.

I'm also not sure anyone really wants to pee on the Stanwick brothers, right?
Pretty sure anyone with two + brain cells would have been happy to have them on their team in each's 4 year tenure.
That includes Milliman and Grant.
For sure
It's dumb (yes, IMO) for anyone to suggest that recruiting from the MIAA produces "soft" or "entitled" players. Just too many examples directly contrary to that misplaced image.
Others may have suggested as much, I was just asking why a top recruit for Hopkins never got hit after scoring. Your conclusion as to that observation is your own. That is on you if you read it to be "soft".
Now, if one wanted to say that the best MIAA players in college over the past decade (other than Brown and the Stanwicks, sheesh, two of the top 10, 3 of the top 15, point scorers in Hopkins history) produced somewhere other than Hopkins, that's probably fair. Lots of MIAA alum first team AA's didn't go to Hopkins...
what the heck are you talking about? Recruits , 5 star ratings, 9th top recruiting class based on a publication that YOU admit is nonsense....yet you defend it. Strange.
And it's probably fair to say that Hopkins has had a substantial share of recruits from all over that have performed less than some of the starry eyed projections for them. Really? How did they get recruited in the first place? Where was the pipeline and why was it broken?

But why look backwards at this point?
There's a couple of classes of recruits in the pipeline to be interested in, a new coaching staff, and lots of transferring around that's going to only be exacerbated by COVID...isn't that enough to discuss?

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:09 pm

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:24 pm

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:03 pm

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:55 pm

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:43 pm can you explain how a league, like the MIAA, can be so bi polar? St. Mary's wins the title, and the very next year wins only one game. What gives? Why aren't there back to back champions in the MIAA?

Is it your mission in life to be wrong about everything? Calvert Hall has won three straight titles.

Really? I had NO idea.......

Who won the Massachusettes Div. 1 championship in 2019? Did they repeat? How about New Hampshire publics? The ISL, while they were going to have it this year, (real playoffs, like the women ) who has won the ISL championship in the past? Lawrence Academy or BB&N?

Remember pounding Kingswood Oxford in HIGH school.........Founders league champions for decades.

Ty evah been to the Yankee Candle workshop and the snowing room .....just down the road from you know which school. It rhymes with Deerfield.

Why would you care about any of this, and why discuss on the Hopkins thread?

It's irrelevant.

kind of like all of your posts. You have ZERO affiliation to Hopkins, why are you here?

Or, rather, you would figure out MY input is as relevant as any comment about IL and ranking and stars. Even YOU would agree with that. That both are irrelevant.


Me being silly stupid IS the point, when the nonsense bee swarm of Ty/Inside lax, or US LAX for that matter, becomes all abuzz.

MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:13 pm That's a diatribe?

Gonna go make dinner.

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:29 pm Can we get this guy out of here?

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:42 pm

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:29 pm Can we get this guy out of here?

So you can pontificate about rankings, 4 or 2 star recruits......etc.

Where are you coaching this fall, hop16

btw......go start your own website and bring along all your hopkins non playing buddies. This is for lacrosse types.........not Bloomberg types. NON players or coaches.

Are you involved at all? Ever been a card carrying member of US Lacrosse?

perhaps wordpress is calling your name. Doesn't barstool sports allow specific blogs?

Hopkins lacrosse problem was fixed, according to US Lacrosse

HopFan16 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:29 pm Can we get this guy out of here?

WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:54 pm Use the Ignore button.

And DO NOT RESPOND TO TROLL POSTS.

That tends to make the attention seeking whores go away.

WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:54 pm Use the Ignore button.

And DO NOT RESPOND TO TROLL POSTS.

That tends to make the attention seeking whores go away.