JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:03 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:21 pm
JoeMauer89 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:07 pm
RedFromMI wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:53 pm
Do what you need to do to make yourself feel safe.
What is needed to make me and a WHOLE lot of other people to feel safe is to get everyone in the population vaccinated except those who cannot for medical reasons.
The vaccine is available, and already proven quite safe.
The disease is NOT.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/early-res ... -how-long/
Right, but do you continue on not living your life if that TAKES MULTIPLE YEARS TO HAPPEN? You can't pause your life and wait for these people to come around. That's what I am saying.
Joe
Who is asking you to "pause your life" Joe?
We had a short period of significant isolation...since then, what aspects of your life have been "paused".
Not my life, I haven't paused it one bit. But that doesn't mean I'm reckless or selfish. I got my vaccination, wear a mask when it's absolutely necessary and required, etc. Shaming people for going to bars/restaurants, sporting events, etc. That's effectively the same as asking them to pause their lives until you feel safe enough from CV-19. People have different level of risks, get it through your thick skull.
Joe
Where's my "thick skull" aspect?
You got vaccinated, you wear a mask (we'll come back to the "required" part), so sounds like you're indeed not being "reckless or selfish" in your personal behaviors.
Has someone been "shaming" you for how you actually behave?
The whole point of being vaccinated, and wearing a mask when in dense indoor situations, is to be able to actually socialize, go to a concert, a ball game, work, whatever, without being a jeopardy to yourself or others.
But those who aren't vaccinated?
Those who defiantly don't wear a mask in crowded indoor situations?
Ok, now we get to
needing mandates, rules, fines, whatever enforcement is necessary to insist that they don't jeopardize others by their "reckless and selfish" preferences.
Back to you, individual re mask compliance. You really shouldn't need a mandate, a rule, a requirement, to wear a mask, properly, when in crowded indoor situations...you know you can be the point of spread, so doing this voluntarily really shouldn't be a big deal.
But there are those who need to know, for a certainty, that they're
required to do so in order for them to do it...they think the absence of requirement means it's not important. That's reality, so we need those requirements to be clear and known.
I just got back from a business conference in Vegas, everyone required to be vaccinated, wear a mask indoors except when eating or outside. I was glad to see the casino itself also had these rules, and even more pleased to see that by and large folks were conforming just fine...some were a little sloppy in their masks slipping below the nose, but this was really a rare exception overall. And folks were having lots of fun. Great to see. Helps also that the casinos have enormous high ceilings and great ventilation, cranked up, but there really wasn't any difference in enjoyment by the patrons that I could see.
Vegas isn't really my cup of tea, but it's a heck of a slice of American excess and it was interesting to see so many people having a good time.
