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Re: Recruiting, the exact science

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:52 pm
by Farfromgeneva
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:14 pm :lol:

He was offered and accepted that week. Coach and player happy. Good ending for all.
Good kid. But it’s been tough as the market adjusts. As I’ve mentioned before, it’s a tough for these kids with grad students and covid years. A few years ago, this player would have had coaches beating down his door. Fewer opportunities for now. Hopefully it opens up in a year or two.
Hobart has a mandate to pull in more athletes currently. And brand new never allowed before schollie money. In my world you go where the money is. Just saying it smells green with a hint of purple and Orange on the northern end of Seneca lake.

Re: Recruiting, the exact science

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:45 am
by laxdad1434
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:14 pm :lol:

He was offered and accepted that week. Coach and player happy. Good ending for all.
Good kid. But it’s been tough as the market adjusts. As I’ve mentioned before, it’s a tough for these kids with grad students and covid years. A few years ago, this player would have had coaches beating down his door. Fewer opportunities for now. Hopefully it opens up in a year or two.
Same can be said for the kids that committed prior to Covid. Getting to the school and there’s 23/24 year olds still playing,

Re: Recruiting, the exact science

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:12 am
by Typical Lax Dad
laxdad1434 wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:45 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:14 pm :lol:

He was offered and accepted that week. Coach and player happy. Good ending for all.
Good kid. But it’s been tough as the market adjusts. As I’ve mentioned before, it’s a tough for these kids with grad students and covid years. A few years ago, this player would have had coaches beating down his door. Fewer opportunities for now. Hopefully it opens up in a year or two.
Same can be said for the kids that committed prior to Covid. Getting to the school and there’s 23/24 year olds still playing,
Now its 24/25 year olds.

Re: Recruiting, the exact science

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:16 am
by wgdsr
covid effectively rolls off this year. save for the '22s who pg'd to '23 and those are primarily the lower tier recruits of a school. and a smallish group of '19/23s who were frosh in '20 and will be invited back in '24. if you choose to be part of the game, you're in the game.

rosters were 50-60 prior to covid. plenty of spots. just bring your checkbook.

edited above.

Re: Recruiting, the exact science

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:43 am
by HooDat
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:27 pm A d1 coach had a choice of a couple kids for a spot that just opened up.
He called and asked if one of my '23s was a good kid.
I told him he was just like the '20 I sent him a few years ago.
He knows how we run our hs program. That's all he needed to hear, sight unseen.
For the good and bad, that's how it happens, sometimes.
this is how I remember it basically working in the late 70's / early 80's. Maybe it was just my coach.

the network was tight. high school coaches and college coaches all knew each other. High school coaches basically "placed" their players. They knew where you "fit" and where could start, have a shot at walking on, or had no chance at all. Their word was 95% of what the college coach required to recruit you.

Re: Recruiting, the exact science

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:18 am
by kramerica.inc
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:12 am
laxdad1434 wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:45 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:14 pm :lol:

He was offered and accepted that week. Coach and player happy. Good ending for all.
Good kid. But it’s been tough as the market adjusts. As I’ve mentioned before, it’s a tough for these kids with grad students and covid years. A few years ago, this player would have had coaches beating down his door. Fewer opportunities for now. Hopefully it opens up in a year or two.
Same can be said for the kids that committed prior to Covid. Getting to the school and there’s 23/24 year olds still playing,
Now its 24/25 year olds.
The 22 year old on our team in college was called "gramps."
He'd be called "rookie" today.

Re: Recruiting, the exact science

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:12 pm
by Stiffler
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:18 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:12 am
laxdad1434 wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:45 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:14 pm :lol:

He was offered and accepted that week. Coach and player happy. Good ending for all.
Good kid. But it’s been tough as the market adjusts. As I’ve mentioned before, it’s a tough for these kids with grad students and covid years. A few years ago, this player would have had coaches beating down his door. Fewer opportunities for now. Hopefully it opens up in a year or two.
Same can be said for the kids that committed prior to Covid. Getting to the school and there’s 23/24 year olds still playing,
Now its 24/25 year olds.
The 22 year old on our team in college was called "gramps."
He'd be called "rookie" today.
It's turning into hockey w/o Juniors or the chance to be drafted. I interviewed a candidate for a job over the Summer who was a 24 years old ex collegiate athlete who had just graduated last Spring. I took the 25 year old instead who had 2.5 years of experience.

Re: Recruiting, the exact science

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:27 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
Stiffler wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:12 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:18 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:12 am
laxdad1434 wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:45 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:14 pm :lol:

He was offered and accepted that week. Coach and player happy. Good ending for all.
Good kid. But it’s been tough as the market adjusts. As I’ve mentioned before, it’s a tough for these kids with grad students and covid years. A few years ago, this player would have had coaches beating down his door. Fewer opportunities for now. Hopefully it opens up in a year or two.
Same can be said for the kids that committed prior to Covid. Getting to the school and there’s 23/24 year olds still playing,
Now its 24/25 year olds.
The 22 year old on our team in college was called "gramps."
He'd be called "rookie" today.
It's turning into hockey w/o Juniors or the chance to be drafted. I interviewed a candidate for a job over the Summer who was a 24 years old ex collegiate athlete who had just graduated last Spring. I took the 25 year old instead who had 2.5 years of experience.
I don’t mind the old kid graduating….But I will never understand calling a kid a 5 star player that is 18 months older than a lot of 10th graders he’s out there playing against. You get what you deserve…..I saw ranking of top 10 players entering college. 5 from the same club? I don’t buy it.

Re: Recruiting, the exact science

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:59 pm
by 1766
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:27 pm
Stiffler wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:12 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:18 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:12 am
laxdad1434 wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:45 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:14 pm :lol:

He was offered and accepted that week. Coach and player happy. Good ending for all.
Good kid. But it’s been tough as the market adjusts. As I’ve mentioned before, it’s a tough for these kids with grad students and covid years. A few years ago, this player would have had coaches beating down his door. Fewer opportunities for now. Hopefully it opens up in a year or two.
Same can be said for the kids that committed prior to Covid. Getting to the school and there’s 23/24 year olds still playing,
Now its 24/25 year olds.
The 22 year old on our team in college was called "gramps."
He'd be called "rookie" today.
It's turning into hockey w/o Juniors or the chance to be drafted. I interviewed a candidate for a job over the Summer who was a 24 years old ex collegiate athlete who had just graduated last Spring. I took the 25 year old instead who had 2.5 years of experience.
I don’t mind the old kid graduating….But I will never understand calling a kid a 5 star player that is 18 months older than a lot of 10th graders he’s out there playing against. You get what you deserve…..I saw ranking of top 10 players entering college. 5 from the same club? I don’t buy it.
I don't either.

OSU has an incoming player next year that I believe will be 20 years old. As a freshman. He's a supposed 5 star. Put him one class ahead, much less two, and I don't think he gets near that type of publicity.

This all isn't lost on some coaching staffs. They are starting to question ages not classes. Playing two grades below your class in high school especially can really make someone shine. 16 and 18 or 19 is a huge difference at that stage of development.

Re: Recruiting, the exact science

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:04 pm
by wgdsr
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:27 pm
Stiffler wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:12 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:18 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:12 am
laxdad1434 wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:45 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:14 pm :lol:

He was offered and accepted that week. Coach and player happy. Good ending for all.
Good kid. But it’s been tough as the market adjusts. As I’ve mentioned before, it’s a tough for these kids with grad students and covid years. A few years ago, this player would have had coaches beating down his door. Fewer opportunities for now. Hopefully it opens up in a year or two.
Same can be said for the kids that committed prior to Covid. Getting to the school and there’s 23/24 year olds still playing,
Now its 24/25 year olds.
The 22 year old on our team in college was called "gramps."
He'd be called "rookie" today.
It's turning into hockey w/o Juniors or the chance to be drafted. I interviewed a candidate for a job over the Summer who was a 24 years old ex collegiate athlete who had just graduated last Spring. I took the 25 year old instead who had 2.5 years of experience.
I don’t mind the old kid graduating….But I will never understand calling a kid a 5 star player that is 18 months older than a lot of 10th graders he’s out there playing against. You get what you deserve…..I saw ranking of top 10 players entering college. 5 from the same club? I don’t buy it.
heard fairfield cty kids are gonna be top recruits come hell or high water.

Re: Recruiting, the exact science

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:06 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:04 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:27 pm
Stiffler wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:12 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:18 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 11:12 am
laxdad1434 wrote: Sat Oct 22, 2022 8:45 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:14 pm :lol:

He was offered and accepted that week. Coach and player happy. Good ending for all.
Good kid. But it’s been tough as the market adjusts. As I’ve mentioned before, it’s a tough for these kids with grad students and covid years. A few years ago, this player would have had coaches beating down his door. Fewer opportunities for now. Hopefully it opens up in a year or two.
Same can be said for the kids that committed prior to Covid. Getting to the school and there’s 23/24 year olds still playing,
Now its 24/25 year olds.
The 22 year old on our team in college was called "gramps."
He'd be called "rookie" today.
It's turning into hockey w/o Juniors or the chance to be drafted. I interviewed a candidate for a job over the Summer who was a 24 years old ex collegiate athlete who had just graduated last Spring. I took the 25 year old instead who had 2.5 years of experience.
I don’t mind the old kid graduating….But I will never understand calling a kid a 5 star player that is 18 months older than a lot of 10th graders he’s out there playing against. You get what you deserve…..I saw ranking of top 10 players entering college. 5 from the same club? I don’t buy it.
heard fairfield cty kids are gonna be top recruits come hell or high water.
It’s amazing how much better the players are now. Really amazing.

Re: Recruiting, the exact science

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:05 pm
by Typical Lax Dad

Re: Recruiting, the exact science

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:57 pm
by wgdsr
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:05 pm https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... osse/60381

Some sanity perhaps
club operators probably not going to be the biggest advocates, it seems. usalax fully went along with this even creating their own tournaments and promo (and insurance).

it sounds like they'll do youth because clubs can't promote recruiting @ middle school kids anymore. slimy bunch, i had trouble reading those club guys. b silcott's a stand up guy.

Re: Recruiting, the exact science

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:29 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:57 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:05 pm https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... osse/60381

Some sanity perhaps
club operators probably not going to be the biggest advocates, it seems. usalax fully went along with this even creating their own tournaments and promo (and insurance).

it sounds like they'll do youth because clubs can't promote recruiting @ middle school kids anymore. slimy bunch, i had trouble reading those club guys. b silcott's a stand up guy.
Talked to a club guy who said he sent a small 2025 go down to play with his 2026s because they needed one more….Looked like best player on the field but is Just average on the 2025. Let this coaches wonder why kids stink when they land.

Re: Recruiting, the exact science

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:00 pm
by wgdsr
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:29 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:57 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:05 pm https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... osse/60381

Some sanity perhaps
club operators probably not going to be the biggest advocates, it seems. usalax fully went along with this even creating their own tournaments and promo (and insurance).

it sounds like they'll do youth because clubs can't promote recruiting @ middle school kids anymore. slimy bunch, i had trouble reading those club guys. b silcott's a stand up guy.
Talked to a club guy who said he sent a small 2025 go down to play with his 2026s because they needed one more….Looked like best player on the field but is Just average on the 2025. Let this coaches wonder why kids stink when they land.
so those youngins played with 10 guys? impressive.

Re: Recruiting, the exact science

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:11 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:00 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:29 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:57 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:05 pm https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... osse/60381

Some sanity perhaps
club operators probably not going to be the biggest advocates, it seems. usalax fully went along with this even creating their own tournaments and promo (and insurance).

it sounds like they'll do youth because clubs can't promote recruiting @ middle school kids anymore. slimy bunch, i had trouble reading those club guys. b silcott's a stand up guy.
Talked to a club guy who said he sent a small 2025 go down to play with his 2026s because they needed one more….Looked like best player on the field but is Just average on the 2025. Let this coaches wonder why kids stink when they land.
so those youngins played with 10 guys? impressive.
They had no “lefty attack” so he was the “one” sent down to play that specialty spot. I didn’t ask him why he didn’t just play what he had. It came up when I told him it’s easy to look good playing down and he relayed the story from a recent weekend of more club lacrosse….

BTW, he mentioned he trained your guy 3-4 hours a week over the Summer.

Re: Recruiting, the exact science

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 10:28 pm
by wgdsr
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:11 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:00 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:29 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:57 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:05 pm https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... osse/60381

Some sanity perhaps
club operators probably not going to be the biggest advocates, it seems. usalax fully went along with this even creating their own tournaments and promo (and insurance).

it sounds like they'll do youth because clubs can't promote recruiting @ middle school kids anymore. slimy bunch, i had trouble reading those club guys. b silcott's a stand up guy.
Talked to a club guy who said he sent a small 2025 go down to play with his 2026s because they needed one more….Looked like best player on the field but is Just average on the 2025. Let this coaches wonder why kids stink when they land.
so those youngins played with 10 guys? impressive.
They had no “lefty attack” so he was the “one” sent down to play that specialty spot. I didn’t ask him why he didn’t just play what he had. It came up when I told him it’s easy to look good playing down and he relayed the story from a recent weekend of more club lacrosse….

BTW, he mentioned he trained your guy 3-4 hours a week over the Summer.
i wouldn't be able to mute myself. it's a very weird ecosystem. parents and coaches and operators too often are caricatures.

Re: Recruiting, the exact science

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:35 am
by FCCTlaxFan
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:11 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:00 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:29 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:57 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:05 pm https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... osse/60381

Some sanity perhaps
club operators probably not going to be the biggest advocates, it seems. usalax fully went along with this even creating their own tournaments and promo (and insurance).

it sounds like they'll do youth because clubs can't promote recruiting @ middle school kids anymore. slimy bunch, i had trouble reading those club guys. b silcott's a stand up guy.
Talked to a club guy who said he sent a small 2025 go down to play with his 2026s because they needed one more….Looked like best player on the field but is Just average on the 2025. Let this coaches wonder why kids stink when they land.
so those youngins played with 10 guys? impressive.
They had no “lefty attack” so he was the “one” sent down to play that specialty spot. I didn’t ask him why he didn’t just play what he had. It came up when I told him it’s easy to look good playing down and he relayed the story from a recent weekend of more club lacrosse….

BTW, he mentioned he trained your guy 3-4 hours a week over the Summer.
Fall Lacrosse is strange. If the 2025 took playing time away from a 2026 it is pretty bad as it just means the 2026 team wanted to win. If the 2026 team really need a body then so be it. Hopefully the defensive players covering the lefty attackman got better and had a fun playing against him.

Re: Recruiting, the exact science

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:17 am
by wgdsr
FCCTlaxFan wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:35 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:11 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:00 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:29 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:57 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:05 pm https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... osse/60381

Some sanity perhaps
club operators probably not going to be the biggest advocates, it seems. usalax fully went along with this even creating their own tournaments and promo (and insurance).

it sounds like they'll do youth because clubs can't promote recruiting @ middle school kids anymore. slimy bunch, i had trouble reading those club guys. b silcott's a stand up guy.
Talked to a club guy who said he sent a small 2025 go down to play with his 2026s because they needed one more….Looked like best player on the field but is Just average on the 2025. Let this coaches wonder why kids stink when they land.
so those youngins played with 10 guys? impressive.
They had no “lefty attack” so he was the “one” sent down to play that specialty spot. I didn’t ask him why he didn’t just play what he had. It came up when I told him it’s easy to look good playing down and he relayed the story from a recent weekend of more club lacrosse….

BTW, he mentioned he trained your guy 3-4 hours a week over the Summer.
Fall Lacrosse is strange. If the 2025 took playing time away from a 2026 it is pretty bad as it just means the 2026 team wanted to win. If the 2026 team really need a body then so be it. Hopefully the defensive players covering the lefty attackman got better and had a fun playing against him.
they didn't need a body. they had enough guys.

Re: Recruiting, the exact science

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:34 am
by Typical Lax Dad
wgdsr wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:17 am
FCCTlaxFan wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:35 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:11 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:00 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:29 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:57 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:05 pm https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... osse/60381

Some sanity perhaps
club operators probably not going to be the biggest advocates, it seems. usalax fully went along with this even creating their own tournaments and promo (and insurance).

it sounds like they'll do youth because clubs can't promote recruiting @ middle school kids anymore. slimy bunch, i had trouble reading those club guys. b silcott's a stand up guy.
Talked to a club guy who said he sent a small 2025 go down to play with his 2026s because they needed one more….Looked like best player on the field but is Just average on the 2025. Let this coaches wonder why kids stink when they land.
so those youngins played with 10 guys? impressive.
They had no “lefty attack” so he was the “one” sent down to play that specialty spot. I didn’t ask him why he didn’t just play what he had. It came up when I told him it’s easy to look good playing down and he relayed the story from a recent weekend of more club lacrosse….

BTW, he mentioned he trained your guy 3-4 hours a week over the Summer.
Fall Lacrosse is strange. If the 2025 took playing time away from a 2026 it is pretty bad as it just means the 2026 team wanted to win. If the 2026 team really need a body then so be it. Hopefully the defensive players covering the lefty attackman got better and had a fun playing against him.
they didn't need a body. they had enough guys.
+100