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random observer wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:07 pm I get the inherent desire to point out any possible reason for a less than desired outcome for a team you have a vested interest in. But yet again (as is usually the case when MIAA teams lose OOC), what I'm hearing is "not to make excuses, but...[insert multiple excuses]." It's veiled as just providing facts, but in reality the goal is to diminish Victor's win; they didn't beat the real St. Mary's. No one can ever beat an MIAA team at their zenith because they never show it except in conference, which is awfully convenient.

I'd probably be willing to look the other way and accept that this is something we're all guilty of to some extent, if there was any real acknowledgement of Victor's far greater disadvantages coming into the game. But here I sit, incredulously, reading about St. Mary's having it "tougher" the day before. A hard fought MIAA loss is somehow tougher than Victor making the 6 hr drive down to Baltimore one game into their season to play two top MIAA teams (both a month into their seasons) back-to-back. It's laughable.

LI13 had it right with the SEC comparison...except the SEC will actually take their show on the road to prove their dominance. Bar St. Paul's a couple of times over a decade ago, I can't remember a single MIAA team that was willing to come up and play a North East team on their turf. The best anyone will get is the occasional "halfway" neutral site in Philly.

random observer wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:07 pm I get the inherent desire to point out any possible reason for a less than desired outcome for a team you have a vested interest in. But yet again (as is usually the case when MIAA teams lose OOC), what I'm hearing is "not to make excuses, but...[insert multiple excuses]." It's veiled as just providing facts, but in reality the goal is to diminish Victor's win; they didn't beat the real St. Mary's. No one can ever beat an MIAA team at their zenith because they never show it except in conference, which is awfully convenient.

I'd probably be willing to look the other way and accept that this is something we're all guilty of to some extent, if there was any real acknowledgement of Victor's far greater disadvantages coming into the game. But here I sit, incredulously, reading about St. Mary's having it "tougher" the day before. A hard fought MIAA loss is somehow tougher than Victor making the 6 hr drive down to Baltimore one game into their season to play two top MIAA teams (both a month into their seasons) back-to-back. It's laughable.

LI13 had it right with the SEC comparison...except the SEC will actually take their show on the road to prove their dominance. Bar St. Paul's a couple of times over a decade ago, I can't remember a single MIAA team that was willing to come up and play a North East team on their turf. The best anyone will get is the occasional "halfway" neutral site in Philly.

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:28 am

random observer wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:07 pm I get the inherent desire to point out any possible reason for a less than desired outcome for a team you have a vested interest in. But yet again (as is usually the case when MIAA teams lose OOC), what I'm hearing is "not to make excuses, but...[insert multiple excuses]." It's veiled as just providing facts, but in reality the goal is to diminish Victor's win; they didn't beat the real St. Mary's. No one can ever beat an MIAA team at their zenith because they never show it except in conference, which is awfully convenient.

I'd probably be willing to look the other way and accept that this is something we're all guilty of to some extent, if there was any real acknowledgement of Victor's far greater disadvantages coming into the game. But here I sit, incredulously, reading about St. Mary's having it "tougher" the day before. A hard fought MIAA loss is somehow tougher than Victor making the 6 hr drive down to Baltimore one game into their season to play two top MIAA teams (both a month into their seasons) back-to-back. It's laughable.

LI13 had it right with the SEC comparison...except the SEC will actually take their show on the road to prove their dominance. Bar St. Paul's a couple of times over a decade ago, I can't remember a single MIAA team that was willing to come up and play a North East team on their turf. The best anyone will get is the occasional "halfway" neutral site in Philly.

I have no interest in St Mary's. At all.

But I would ask- Do you know for sure Victor drove 6 hours and played CH the very same day? Is that fact? Or speculation?

If so, why? What did they expect? General rules for all away games is more than 3-4 hours on the bus means you travel the day before. HS and college. All ADs know that.

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:28 am

random observer wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:07 pm I get the inherent desire to point out any possible reason for a less than desired outcome for a team you have a vested interest in. But yet again (as is usually the case when MIAA teams lose OOC), what I'm hearing is "not to make excuses, but...[insert multiple excuses]." It's veiled as just providing facts, but in reality the goal is to diminish Victor's win; they didn't beat the real St. Mary's. No one can ever beat an MIAA team at their zenith because they never show it except in conference, which is awfully convenient.

I'd probably be willing to look the other way and accept that this is something we're all guilty of to some extent, if there was any real acknowledgement of Victor's far greater disadvantages coming into the game. But here I sit, incredulously, reading about St. Mary's having it "tougher" the day before. A hard fought MIAA loss is somehow tougher than Victor making the 6 hr drive down to Baltimore one game into their season to play two top MIAA teams (both a month into their seasons) back-to-back. It's laughable.

LI13 had it right with the SEC comparison...except the SEC will actually take their show on the road to prove their dominance. Bar St. Paul's a couple of times over a decade ago, I can't remember a single MIAA team that was willing to come up and play a North East team on their turf. The best anyone will get is the occasional "halfway" neutral site in Philly.

I have no interest in St Mary's. At all.

But I would ask- Do you know for sure Victor drove 6 hours and played CH the very same day? Is that fact? Or speculation?

If so, why? What did they expect? General rules for all away games is more than 3-4 hours on the bus means you travel the day before. HS and college. All ADs know that.

random observer wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:39 am

kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:28 am

random observer wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:07 pm I get the inherent desire to point out any possible reason for a less than desired outcome for a team you have a vested interest in. But yet again (as is usually the case when MIAA teams lose OOC), what I'm hearing is "not to make excuses, but...[insert multiple excuses]." It's veiled as just providing facts, but in reality the goal is to diminish Victor's win; they didn't beat the real St. Mary's. No one can ever beat an MIAA team at their zenith because they never show it except in conference, which is awfully convenient.

I'd probably be willing to look the other way and accept that this is something we're all guilty of to some extent, if there was any real acknowledgement of Victor's far greater disadvantages coming into the game. But here I sit, incredulously, reading about St. Mary's having it "tougher" the day before. A hard fought MIAA loss is somehow tougher than Victor making the 6 hr drive down to Baltimore one game into their season to play two top MIAA teams (both a month into their seasons) back-to-back. It's laughable.

LI13 had it right with the SEC comparison...except the SEC will actually take their show on the road to prove their dominance. Bar St. Paul's a couple of times over a decade ago, I can't remember a single MIAA team that was willing to come up and play a North East team on their turf. The best anyone will get is the occasional "halfway" neutral site in Philly.

I have no interest in St Mary's. At all.

But I would ask- Do you know for sure Victor drove 6 hours and played CH the very same day? Is that fact? Or speculation?

If so, why? What did they expect? General rules for all away games is more than 3-4 hours on the bus means you travel the day before. HS and college. All ADs know that.

A fair point. I was speaking more generally about the rigors of a long road trip, but there is a good chance that they bused down the day before. It's still a big disadvantage to spend multiple days living out of a hotel room rather than your own bed, especially for high school kids who aren't used to it. I've always been impressed by the way Hill and Culver manage their grueling spring road trips (albeit mitigated by the fact that they have myriad advantages over most other schools, including the MIAA teams that they face).

get it to x wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:48 pm Loyola 14 - McDonogh 13. Dons were up 11-2 midway through the third and Eagles tied it at 13.

blue angels wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 10:06 am

get it to x wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:48 pm Loyola 14 - McDonogh 13. Dons were up 11-2 midway through the third and Eagles tied it at 13.

When was the last time an MIAA team went undefeated? Mcdonogh had multiple losses last year and were champions. What a tough league.........

get it to x wrote: ↑Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:48 pm Loyola 14 - McDonogh 13. Dons were up 11-2 midway through the third and Eagles tied it at 13.

suitcase10 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:26 pm What were yesterdays scores ? Thanks