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Re: 2019 NYS Public High School State Tournament
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:18 pm
by pcowlax
Doid23 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:35 pm
pcowlax wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 4:41 pm
My opinion, just that, the “best” NY public team this year was GC.Yet they lost, by 1 to Pequa and twice close to Set. What does that mean? It means they lost!! Set losing to JJ is a terrible loss, relative to what they should be playing at which is top 10 in the country. Is JJ better than Set? I would say no, despite the head to head. H2H is very over blown.
"Set losing to JJ is a terrible loss"? Really? Do I think it was an upset? Yes, I do. Yes, they lost to Set in the first game of their season by 6, without one of the Fords, but it was a team that clearly got better at the end of the season. But JJ was 20-3, no bad losses, Lost by 2 to an in form Victor team (goalie had 19 saves, huge faceoff advantage, in I believe their 5th straight title game appearance), beat SWR and CSH, Yorktown, Wilton, Ridgefield. A little respect, please.
And H2H is very overblown? That's just a silly statement, in my opinion. Is it the be all and end all? Of course not. But it matters, if not, tell me what matters more. Set was a better team than GC, they beat them twice. Period. If they played 3 more times, could GC win all 3? Yup. But they had two chances, and Set won.
“Terrible” was a poor choice of words and does indeed sound demeaning to JJ, which I did not intend. Apologies for that. As for H2H being overblown, well, does this result not support that? Set won very comfortably in the first game, would that not suggest they were comfortably the better team? And yet they lost round 2. Of course H2H has meaning and outside of common opponents and playing similar teams can be the only way to compare 2 teams. However, when there is as much overlap in schedule and quality of opponents as these teams have, the totality of their performance can really provide a more in depth and nuanced feel for their relative strengths than one H2H meeting.
Re: 2019 NYS Public High School State Tournament
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:48 am
by Doid23
pcowlax wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:18 pm
“Terrible” was a poor choice of words and does indeed sound demeaning to JJ, which I did not intend. Apologies for that. As for H2H being overblown, well, does this result not support that? Set won very comfortably in the first game, would that not suggest they were comfortably the better team? And yet they lost round 2. Of course H2H has meaning and outside of common opponents and playing similar teams can be the only way to compare 2 teams. However, when there is as much overlap in schedule and quality of opponents as these teams have, the totality of their performance can really provide a more in depth and nuanced feel for their relative strengths than one H2H meeting.
No need to apologize, I didn't take it as a slam, more of an oversight. At the time, in the first game of JJ"s season, yes, Set was the better team. But as the season progressed, JJ got demonstrably better, as a team that lost a ton of seniors last year gelled, and got some key players back. Yorktown also beat JJ comfortably in the beginning of the season, and JJ beat them at the end as well.
I agree with your point that the totality of teams performance gives an indication of who they are as a team for the season. And in that measure, Set is a better team than JJ. But as you know, teams peeking at the right time matters, especially in playoffs as competitive as NY's. Victor is another example of a team that's season looked good, but really put it together down the stretch.
Re: 2019 NYS Public High School State Tournament
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:51 pm
by wahoomurf
murph, you're the man.and get your guy stick back on here!
No effing way stick 's coming back. He finally talked me into joining him and so many other former Laxpower folks to use texting in lieu of posting. One his reasons was that no one cared about anything we Yanks had to say.
Re: 2019 NYS Public High School State Tournament
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:53 pm
by oldbartman
wahoomurf wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:51 pm
murph, you're the man.and get your guy stick back on here!
No effing way stick 's coming back. He finally talked me into joining him and so many other former Laxpower folks to use texting in lieu of posting. One his reasons was that no one cared about anything we Yanks had to say.
Come on... We Long Island guys need to support each other. Whether we're Section VIII or Section XI.
Re: 2019 NYS Public High School State Tournament
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:58 pm
by Nigel
wahoomurf wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:51 pm
murph, you're the man.and get your guy stick back on here!
No effing way stick 's coming back. He finally talked me into joining him and so many other former Laxpower folks to use texting in lieu of posting. One his reasons was that no one cared about anything we Yanks had to say.
We care. Maybe we should group hug?
Re: 2019 NYS Public High School State Tournament
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:15 pm
by oldbartman
Nigel, didn't know you were such a softy.
Re: 2019 NYS Public High School State Tournament
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:31 pm
by ardilla secreta
What do you expect from someone that espouses the Flower People...
https://youtu.be/7-yTWhuK48s
Re: 2019 NYS Public High School State Tournament
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:47 pm
by Nigel
That is so groovy! Dancing chicks and a kaleidoscope Nigel, simply outta sight!
Re: 2022 NYS Public High School State Tournament
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:30 pm
by Nigel
flyerfan17 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:34 pm
Nigel wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:17 pm
So long to the 3 year run of Finals here at SJF. Been a great setting and well run. Best games over these three years IMO, and in order -
2017 Ward Melville stunner over Pittsford (
hands down best game)
2019 Lafayette over Briarcliff in OT
2018 Garden City over 3X champ Victor
2017 Cold Spring Harbor over Jamesville DeWitt
Enjoy it's return to the Island ya schnooks! I may have to visit!
Not sure Mrs. Nigel is going for 4 straight on the plains of Hempstead
but I know it will here in a blink, thanks for the coverage, always did a great job covering the girls too
One heck of a blink!
We are on the cusp of the 2022 season.
For those wondering
2022 NYSPHSAA Boys Lacrosse Championships
East Semifinals - University at Albany
Wednesday, June 8
John Fallon Field
Class D - 3:00 p.m.
Class B - 5:30 p.m.
Bob Ford Field
Class A - 4:00 p.m.
Class C - 6:30 p.m.
West Semifinals - SUNY Cortland
Wednesday, June 8
White Field
Class D - 3 :00 p.m.
Class B - 5:30 p.m.
Red Field
Class A - 4:00 p.m.
Class C - 6:30 p.m.
Finals - Saturday, June 11
Hofstra University
10:00 a.m. Class D
12:30 p.m. Class A
3:00 p.m. Class B
5:30 p.m. Class C
Re: 2019 NYS Public High School State Tournament
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:59 pm
by fordmaddoxford
I see that Cold Spring Harbor is a D team by the numbers this year. If they do not or can not “play up” (not the best year to do it in Long Island C) they should be a strong threat in D.
Re: 2019 NYS Public High School State Tournament
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:07 pm
by wgdsr
fordmaddoxford wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:59 pm
I see that Cold Spring Harbor is a D team by the numbers this year. If they do not or
can not “play up” (not the best year to do it in Long Island C) they should be a strong threat in D.
it's my understanding programs can play up if they choose.
Re: 2019 NYS Public High School State Tournament
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:14 pm
by fordmaddoxford
wgdsr wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:07 pm
fordmaddoxford wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:59 pm
I see that Cold Spring Harbor is a D team by the numbers this year. If they do not or
can not “play up” (not the best year to do it in Long Island C) they should be a strong threat in D.
it's my understanding programs can play up if they choose.
That would be ambitious of them. They would have to get by Manhasset and Mt. Sinai (or SWR) just to get off the Island.
Re: 2022 NYS Public High School State Tournament
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 8:55 pm
by wahoomurf
Nigel wrote: ↑Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:30 pm
flyerfan17 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:34 pm
Nigel wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:17 pm
So long to the 3 year run of Finals here at SJF. Been a great setting and well run. Best games over these three years IMO, and in order -
2017 Ward Melville stunner over Pittsford (
hands down best game)
2019 Lafayette over Briarcliff in OT
2018 Garden City over 3X champ Victor
2017 Cold Spring Harbor over Jamesville DeWitt
Enjoy it's return to the Island ya schnooks! I may have to visit!
Not sure Mrs. Nigel is going for 4 straight on the plains of Hempstead
but I know it will here in a blink, thanks for the coverage, always did a great job covering the girls too
One heck of a blink!
We are on the cusp of the 2022 season.
For those wondering
2022 NYSPHSAA Boys Lacrosse Championships
East Semifinals - University at Albany
Wednesday, June 8
John Fallon Field
Class D - 3:00 p.m.
Class B - 5:30 p.m.
Bob Ford Field
Class A - 4:00 p.m.
Class C - 6:30 p.m.
West Semifinals - SUNY Cortland
Wednesday, June 8
White Field
Class D - 3 :00 p.m.
Class B - 5:30 p.m.
Red Field
Class A - 4:00 p.m.
Class C - 6:30 p.m.
Finals - Saturday, June 11
Hofstra University
10:00 a.m. Class D
12:30 p.m. Class A
3:00 p.m. Class B
5:30 p.m. Class C
Great news.Chuffed that the finals are within walking distance.
Re: 2022 NYS Public High School State Tournament
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 10:59 pm
by Nigel
wahoomurf wrote: ↑Sat May 07, 2022 8:55 pm
Nigel wrote: ↑Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:30 pm
flyerfan17 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:34 pm
Nigel wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:17 pm
So long to the 3 year run of Finals here at SJF. Been a great setting and well run. Best games over these three years IMO, and in order -
2017 Ward Melville stunner over Pittsford (
hands down best game)
2019 Lafayette over Briarcliff in OT
2018 Garden City over 3X champ Victor
2017 Cold Spring Harbor over Jamesville DeWitt
Enjoy it's return to the Island ya schnooks! I may have to visit!
Not sure Mrs. Nigel is going for 4 straight on the plains of Hempstead
but I know it will here in a blink, thanks for the coverage, always did a great job covering the girls too
One heck of a blink!
We are on the cusp of the 2022 season.
For those wondering
2022 NYSPHSAA Boys Lacrosse Championships
East Semifinals - University at Albany
Wednesday, June 8
John Fallon Field
Class D - 3:00 p.m.
Class B - 5:30 p.m.
Bob Ford Field
Class A - 4:00 p.m.
Class C - 6:30 p.m.
West Semifinals - SUNY Cortland
Wednesday, June 8
White Field
Class D - 3 :00 p.m.
Class B - 5:30 p.m.
Red Field
Class A - 4:00 p.m.
Class C - 6:30 p.m.
Finals - Saturday, June 11
Hofstra University
10:00 a.m. Class D
12:30 p.m. Class A
3:00 p.m. Class B
5:30 p.m. Class C
Great news.Chuffed that the finals are within walking distance.
Victor looking strong up here and may play on the Island for the first time in their State playoff history if things go their way.
Re: 2022 NYS Public High School State Tournament
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 4:18 pm
by Nigel
Accuweather has a long term forecast right now of 80 degrees and sun.
Maybe the Garden City Pool will have some available swim time for lax fans?
Re: 2022 NYS Public High School State Tournament
Posted: Tue May 10, 2022 4:25 pm
by Jim Malone
Who is going to be at Hofstra?
And where will the tailgate be?
Bout time I ran into a few of you jamokes!
Re: 2022 NYS Public High School State Tournament
Posted: Wed May 11, 2022 6:12 pm
by wahoomurf
Nigel wrote: ↑Tue May 10, 2022 4:18 pm
Accuweather has a long term forecast right now of 80 degrees and sun.
Maybe the Garden City Pool will have some available swim time for lax fans?
Plenty of room for lacrosse fans at the GC pool. You're always welcome Nigel.
Re: 2022 NYS Public High School State Tournament
Posted: Thu May 12, 2022 6:14 pm
by fordmaddoxford
At the half in a battle of undefeated teams. (It’s on You Tube).
Mt. Sinai 6
SWR 2
Either, but especially Mt. Sinai a tough out for anyone…anyone.
Re: 2022 NYS Public High School State Tournament
Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 12:25 pm
by wahoomurf
fordmaddoxford wrote: ↑Thu May 12, 2022 6:14 pm
At the half in a battle of undefeated teams. (It’s on You Tube).
Mt. Sinai 6
SWR 2
Either, but especially Mt. Sinai a tough out for anyone…anyone.
Spallina once again led the way.Three goals and 6 assists.
Re: 2022 NYS Public High School State Tournament
Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 12:31 pm
by Nassaufan
Who's playing in the Section VIII quarterfinals this week?