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Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:01 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
a fan wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:10 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:09 pm Can someone explain to me why folks trust govt, fda, cdc, science, tech, doctors when it comes to monoclonal?

But not for vaccine?
Yep. It's what I called a "logic trap" earlier.

You can't square the two. And you also can't square why they supposedly don't believe what their doctors tell them----yet when they get really sick, they run to these same doctors for help. That's the tell: if they REALLY didn't believe doctors, they'd simply stay home and die....and not go running to doctors and ER's around the country, begging them for help.


So you're left with: these people are freaking idiots, trying to show the world that they're free thinkers. And if they only killed themselves and no one else, I'd feel sorry for them. Instead? I'm livid at their entirely phony, hypocritical behavior....that's killing others, and keeping the virus around.

They're not done, btw. They'll find a new, even lower level of stupid in the next few months.
But the government doesn’t want folks to use horse medicine.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:27 pm
by Farfromgeneva
a fan wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:10 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:09 pm Can someone explain to me why folks trust govt, fda, cdc, science, tech, doctors when it comes to monoclonal?

But not for vaccine?
Yep. It's what I called a "logic trap" earlier.

You can't square the two. And you also can't square why they supposedly don't believe what their doctors tell them----yet when they get really sick, they run to these same doctors for help. That's the tell: if they REALLY didn't believe doctors, they'd simply stay home and die....and not go running to doctors and ER's around the country, begging them for help.


So you're left with: these people are freaking idiots, trying to show the world that they're free thinkers. And if they only killed themselves and no one else, I'd feel sorry for them. Instead? I'm livid at their entirely phony, hypocritical behavior....that's killing others, and keeping the virus around.

They're not done, btw. They'll find a new, even lower level of stupid in the next few months.
Logic trap? That’s beyond kind

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:11 pm
by Kismet
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:27 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:10 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:09 pm Can someone explain to me why folks trust govt, fda, cdc, science, tech, doctors when it comes to monoclonal?

But not for vaccine?
Yep. It's what I called a "logic trap" earlier.

You can't square the two. And you also can't square why they supposedly don't believe what their doctors tell them----yet when they get really sick, they run to these same doctors for help. That's the tell: if they REALLY didn't believe doctors, they'd simply stay home and die....and not go running to doctors and ER's around the country, begging them for help.


So you're left with: these people are freaking idiots, trying to show the world that they're free thinkers. And if they only killed themselves and no one else, I'd feel sorry for them. Instead? I'm livid at their entirely phony, hypocritical behavior....that's killing others, and keeping the virus around.

They're not done, btw. They'll find a new, even lower level of stupid in the next few months.
Logic trap? That’s beyond kind
Quite right. Stupid is as stupid does and it looks like more stupider is coming
Alabama had more deaths than births last year, a first in its recorded history.
Mississippi governor harping on political BS (like Feds rationing monoclonal antibody treatment as there is not enough supply for the level of stupid in his state) as his state has the highest per capita death rate in the country and if it were a country, second in the world. Despite being pressed multiple times, he just could not endorse getting vaccinated. Talk to your doctor, yada, yada yada. :oops: :oops:

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:19 pm
by a fan
Kismet wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:11 pm Mississippi governor harping on political BS (like Feds rationing monoclonal antibody treatment as there is not enough supply for the level of stupid in his state) as his state has the highest per capita death rate in the country and if it were a country, second in the world. Despite being pressed multiple times, he just could not endorse getting vaccinated.
Right. But these mouth breathers "forgot" to complain about all the vaccines that the Mississippi Government FORCES them to take to enter K-12. "That's different". :roll:

This is how you get votes in post Trump America. So it's going to get worse come election time.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:35 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
Kismet wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:11 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:27 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:10 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:09 pm Can someone explain to me why folks trust govt, fda, cdc, science, tech, doctors when it comes to monoclonal?

But not for vaccine?
Yep. It's what I called a "logic trap" earlier.

You can't square the two. And you also can't square why they supposedly don't believe what their doctors tell them----yet when they get really sick, they run to these same doctors for help. That's the tell: if they REALLY didn't believe doctors, they'd simply stay home and die....and not go running to doctors and ER's around the country, begging them for help.


So you're left with: these people are freaking idiots, trying to show the world that they're free thinkers. And if they only killed themselves and no one else, I'd feel sorry for them. Instead? I'm livid at their entirely phony, hypocritical behavior....that's killing others, and keeping the virus around.

They're not done, btw. They'll find a new, even lower level of stupid in the next few months.
Logic trap? That’s beyond kind
Quite right. Stupid is as stupid does and it looks like more stupider is coming
Alabama had more deaths than births last year, a first in its recorded history.
Mississippi governor harping on political BS (like Feds rationing monoclonal antibody treatment as there is not enough supply for the level of stupid in his state) as his state has the highest per capita death rate in the country and if it were a country, second in the world. Despite being pressed multiple times, he just could not endorse getting vaccinated. Talk to your doctor, yada, yada yada. :oops: :oops:
Mississippi is a third world country

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:43 pm
by lagerhead
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:35 pm
Kismet wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:11 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:27 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:10 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:09 pm Can someone explain to me why folks trust govt, fda, cdc, science, tech, doctors when it comes to monoclonal?

But not for vaccine?
Yep. It's what I called a "logic trap" earlier.

You can't square the two. And you also can't square why they supposedly don't believe what their doctors tell them----yet when they get really sick, they run to these same doctors for help. That's the tell: if they REALLY didn't believe doctors, they'd simply stay home and die....and not go running to doctors and ER's around the country, begging them for help.


So you're left with: these people are freaking idiots, trying to show the world that they're free thinkers. And if they only killed themselves and no one else, I'd feel sorry for them. Instead? I'm livid at their entirely phony, hypocritical behavior....that's killing others, and keeping the virus around.

They're not done, btw. They'll find a new, even lower level of stupid in the next few months.
Logic trap? That’s beyond kind
Quite right. Stupid is as stupid does and it looks like more stupider is coming
Alabama had more deaths than births last year, a first in its recorded history.
Mississippi governor harping on political BS (like Feds rationing monoclonal antibody treatment as there is not enough supply for the level of stupid in his state) as his state has the highest per capita death rate in the country and if it were a country, second in the world. Despite being pressed multiple times, he just could not endorse getting vaccinated. Talk to your doctor, yada, yada yada. :oops: :oops:
Mississippi is a third world country
People run to their doctors when they are sick, broken or have symptoms, you’re asking otherwise healthy people to ask for an emergency use authorized vaccine.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:56 pm
by Kismet
lagerhead wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:43 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:35 pm
Kismet wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:11 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:27 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:10 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:09 pm Can someone explain to me why folks trust govt, fda, cdc, science, tech, doctors when it comes to monoclonal?

But not for vaccine?
Yep. It's what I called a "logic trap" earlier.

You can't square the two. And you also can't square why they supposedly don't believe what their doctors tell them----yet when they get really sick, they run to these same doctors for help. That's the tell: if they REALLY didn't believe doctors, they'd simply stay home and die....and not go running to doctors and ER's around the country, begging them for help.


So you're left with: these people are freaking idiots, trying to show the world that they're free thinkers. And if they only killed themselves and no one else, I'd feel sorry for them. Instead? I'm livid at their entirely phony, hypocritical behavior....that's killing others, and keeping the virus around.

They're not done, btw. They'll find a new, even lower level of stupid in the next few months.
Logic trap? That’s beyond kind
Quite right. Stupid is as stupid does and it looks like more stupider is coming
Alabama had more deaths than births last year, a first in its recorded history.
Mississippi governor harping on political BS (like Feds rationing monoclonal antibody treatment as there is not enough supply for the level of stupid in his state) as his state has the highest per capita death rate in the country and if it were a country, second in the world. Despite being pressed multiple times, he just could not endorse getting vaccinated. Talk to your doctor, yada, yada yada. :oops: :oops:
Mississippi is a third world country
People run to their doctors when they are sick, broken or have symptoms, you’re asking otherwise healthy people to ask for an emergency use authorized vaccine.
Pfizer has a full use approval for all ages 18+. The EUA excuse is a red herring IMHO. Literally 100s of millions of doses administered with a miniscule number of issues.

People seek medical advice from the doctors all of the time.

How come no objections for multiclonal antibody treatment which is also under an identical EUA from the FDA :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:18 pm
by seacoaster
Speaking of which:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/18/heal ... e=Homepage

“Lanson Jones did not think that the coronavirus would come for him. An avid tennis player in Houston who had not caught so much as a cold during the pandemic, he had refused a vaccine because he worried that it would spoil his streak of good health.

But contracting Covid shattered his faith in his body’s defenses — so much so that Mr. Jones, nose clogged and appetite vanished, began hunting for anything to spare himself a nightmarish illness.

The answer turned out to be monoclonal antibodies, a year-old, laboratory-created drug no less experimental than the vaccine. In a glass-walled enclosure at Houston Methodist Hospital this month, Mr. Jones, 65, became one of more than a million patients, including Donald J. Trump and Joe Rogan, to receive an antibody infusion as the virus has battered the United States.

Vaccine-resistant Americans are turning to the treatment with a zeal that has, at times, mystified their doctors, chasing down lengthy infusions after rejecting vaccines that cost one-hundredth as much. Orders have exploded so quickly this summer — to 168,000 doses per week in late August, up from 27,000 in July — that the Biden administration warned states this week of a dwindling national supply.

The federal government, which was already covering the cost of the treatment — currently about $2,100 per dose — has now taken over its distribution as well. For the coming weeks, the government has told states to expect scaled-back shipments because of the looming shortages.

With seven Southern states accounting for 70 percent of orders, the new process has unsettled some of their governors, who have made the antibody treatment central to their strategy for enduring a catastrophic wave of the Delta variant.

More supplies are on the way. The federal government bought 1.8 million more doses this week, expected to arrive in the fall and winter. But for now, some hospitals are uncertain of supplies, state health officials said, even as patients keep searching for doses.

“We have providers struggling to get the necessary product,” Kody Kinsley, who leads operations for North Carolina’s Covid-19 response, said in an interview. “I think what has happened is a classic logistics issue, where all of a sudden there’s much more demand.”

Amid a din of antivaccine falsehoods, monoclonal antibodies have become the rare coronavirus medicine to achieve near-universal acceptance. Championed by mainstream doctors and conservative radio hosts alike, the infusions have kept the country’s death toll — 2,000 per day and climbing — from soaring even higher.
And after months of work by President Biden and Southern governors to promote the treatments, they have won the affection of vaccine refusers who said that the terrors and uncertainties of actually getting Covid had made them desperate for an antidote.

“The people you love, you trust, nobody said anything negative about it,” Mr. Jones said of the antibody treatment. “And I’ve heard nothing but negative things about the side effects of the vaccine and how quickly it was developed.”

Some Republican governors have set up antibody clinics while opposing vaccine mandates, frustrating even some of the drugs’ strongest proponents. Raising vaccination rates, scientists said, would obviate the need for many of the costly antibody treatments in the first place. The infusions take about an hour and a half, including monitoring afterward, and require constant attention from nurses whom hard-hit states often cannot spare.

“It’s clogging up resources, it’s hard to give, and a vaccine is $20 and could prevent almost all of that,” said Dr. Christian Ramers, an infectious disease specialist and the chief of population health at Family Health Centers of San Diego, a community-based provider. Pushing antibodies while playing down vaccines, he said, was “like investing in car insurance without investing in brakes.”

The government-supplied monoclonal antibodies, made by Regeneron and Eli Lilly, have been shown to significantly shorten patients’ symptoms and reduce their risk of being hospitalized — by 70 percent, in the case of Regeneron’s antibody cocktail. The treatments, given in a single sitting, use lab-made copies of the antibodies that people generate naturally when fighting an infection.

Patients and doctors alike overlooked the treatments during the wintertime surge of infections. But hospitals and health centers have now ramped up their offerings, transforming dental clinics, mobile units and auditoriums into infusion centers. In states like Texas, where elective surgeries have been postponed to make room for Covid-19 patients, operating room nurses have been enlisted to give infusions.”

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:23 pm
by a fan
lagerhead wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:43 pm People run to their doctors when they are sick, broken or have symptoms, you’re asking otherwise healthy people to ask for an emergency use authorized vaccine.
No. No, I'm not. I'm 100% NOT asking them to ask for a vaccine. I'm also not asking them to listen to Trump, Biden, Fauci, the Government, or any other entity.

I'm asking them to listen to their own personal doctors, my man. That's it. Nothing more. Just as they listen to them, as you put it, when they are "sick, broken, or have symptoms". Either they listen to their doctors, and believe what they say and do----or they don't.

And if they listen to their doctors, as they do with every other vaccine like the ones for Polio, Pertussis, diptheria, etc? Guess what will happen? Over 90%+ will take the vaccine.

And we can put this stupid mess behind us, and stop pretending like we don't do things like force our kids to take vaccines for meningitis before they head to college. This is yet another made up "issue" that's not real. It's invented to get clicks, and TV ratings.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:37 pm
by lagerhead
a fan wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:23 pm
lagerhead wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:43 pm People run to their doctors when they are sick, broken or have symptoms, you’re asking otherwise healthy people to ask for an emergency use authorized vaccine.
No. No, I'm not. I'm 100% NOT asking them to ask for a vaccine. I'm also not asking them to listen to Trump, Biden, Fauci, the Government, or any other entity.

I'm asking them to listen to their own personal doctors, my man. That's it. Nothing more. Just as they listen to them, as you put it, when they are "sick, broken, or have symptoms". Either they listen to their doctors, and believe what they say and do----or they don't.

And if they listen to their doctors, as they do with every other vaccine like the ones for Polio, Pertussis, diptheria, etc? Guess what will happen? Over 90%+ will take the vaccine.

And we can put this stupid mess behind us, and stop pretending like we don't do things like force our kids to take vaccines for meningitis before they head to college. This is yet another made up "issue" that's not real. It's invented to get clicks, and TV ratings.
Maybe that’s the answer afan have the fed pick up my co pay for my visit and consultation. Getting the vaccine does require informed consent take the liability away from the dr.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:37 pm
by lagerhead
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-ne ... this-book/

A book written in 2019 predicting society going off kilter during a pandemic.

Pre covid… barely

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:58 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
lagerhead wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:43 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:35 pm
Kismet wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:11 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:27 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:10 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:09 pm Can someone explain to me why folks trust govt, fda, cdc, science, tech, doctors when it comes to monoclonal?

But not for vaccine?
Yep. It's what I called a "logic trap" earlier.

You can't square the two. And you also can't square why they supposedly don't believe what their doctors tell them----yet when they get really sick, they run to these same doctors for help. That's the tell: if they REALLY didn't believe doctors, they'd simply stay home and die....and not go running to doctors and ER's around the country, begging them for help.


So you're left with: these people are freaking idiots, trying to show the world that they're free thinkers. And if they only killed themselves and no one else, I'd feel sorry for them. Instead? I'm livid at their entirely phony, hypocritical behavior....that's killing others, and keeping the virus around.

They're not done, btw. They'll find a new, even lower level of stupid in the next few months.
Logic trap? That’s beyond kind
Quite right. Stupid is as stupid does and it looks like more stupider is coming
Alabama had more deaths than births last year, a first in its recorded history.
Mississippi governor harping on political BS (like Feds rationing monoclonal antibody treatment as there is not enough supply for the level of stupid in his state) as his state has the highest per capita death rate in the country and if it were a country, second in the world. Despite being pressed multiple times, he just could not endorse getting vaccinated. Talk to your doctor, yada, yada yada. :oops: :oops:
Mississippi is a third world country
People run to their doctors when they are sick, broken or have symptoms, you’re asking otherwise healthy people to ask for an emergency use authorized vaccine.
People definitely run to the doctor when they come down with COVID after forgoing the vaccine.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:10 pm
by old salt
ggait wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:09 pm Can someone explain to me why folks trust govt, fda, cdc, science, tech, doctors when it comes to monoclonal?

But not for vaccine?

It is all such Bravo Sierra.

Especially because they were all so very pro Trump vax before the election. But then the effing Deep State held up the approval of the life saving miracle so Trump would lose.
Because by the time they request monoclonal they know they've got covid & could become very sick, very soon. A pre-death bed conversion. Just like the really sick hospitalized patients asking if they can now get vaccinated.

Not all the unvaccinated are hard core anti-vax. Many "just haven't gotten around to it yet".
It took me months of gently urging hesitant friends & family members to get the shot, before delta convinced them to do it.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:38 pm
by lagerhead
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:58 pm
lagerhead wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:43 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:35 pm
Kismet wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:11 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:27 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:10 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:09 pm Can someone explain to me why folks trust govt, fda, cdc, science, tech, doctors when it comes to monoclonal?

But not for vaccine?
Yep. It's what I called a "logic trap" earlier.

You can't square the two. And you also can't square why they supposedly don't believe what their doctors tell them----yet when they get really sick, they run to these same doctors for help. That's the tell: if they REALLY didn't believe doctors, they'd simply stay home and die....and not go running to doctors and ER's around the country, begging them for help.


So you're left with: these people are freaking idiots, trying to show the world that they're free thinkers. And if they only killed themselves and no one else, I'd feel sorry for them. Instead? I'm livid at their entirely phony, hypocritical behavior....that's killing others, and keeping the virus around.

They're not done, btw. They'll find a new, even lower level of stupid in the next few months.
Logic trap? That’s beyond kind
Quite right. Stupid is as stupid does and it looks like more stupider is coming
Alabama had more deaths than births last year, a first in its recorded history.
Mississippi governor harping on political BS (like Feds rationing monoclonal antibody treatment as there is not enough supply for the level of stupid in his state) as his state has the highest per capita death rate in the country and if it were a country, second in the world. Despite being pressed multiple times, he just could not endorse getting vaccinated. Talk to your doctor, yada, yada yada. :oops: :oops:
Mississippi is a third world country
People run to their doctors when they are sick, broken or have symptoms, you’re asking otherwise healthy people to ask for an emergency use authorized vaccine.
People definitely run to the doctor when they come down with COVID after forgoing the vaccine.
And go to the emergency room with the flu

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:45 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
lagerhead wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:38 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:58 pm
lagerhead wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:43 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:35 pm
Kismet wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:11 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:27 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:10 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:09 pm Can someone explain to me why folks trust govt, fda, cdc, science, tech, doctors when it comes to monoclonal?

But not for vaccine?
Yep. It's what I called a "logic trap" earlier.

You can't square the two. And you also can't square why they supposedly don't believe what their doctors tell them----yet when they get really sick, they run to these same doctors for help. That's the tell: if they REALLY didn't believe doctors, they'd simply stay home and die....and not go running to doctors and ER's around the country, begging them for help.


So you're left with: these people are freaking idiots, trying to show the world that they're free thinkers. And if they only killed themselves and no one else, I'd feel sorry for them. Instead? I'm livid at their entirely phony, hypocritical behavior....that's killing others, and keeping the virus around.

They're not done, btw. They'll find a new, even lower level of stupid in the next few months.
Logic trap? That’s beyond kind
Quite right. Stupid is as stupid does and it looks like more stupider is coming
Alabama had more deaths than births last year, a first in its recorded history.
Mississippi governor harping on political BS (like Feds rationing monoclonal antibody treatment as there is not enough supply for the level of stupid in his state) as his state has the highest per capita death rate in the country and if it were a country, second in the world. Despite being pressed multiple times, he just could not endorse getting vaccinated. Talk to your doctor, yada, yada yada. :oops: :oops:
Mississippi is a third world country
People run to their doctors when they are sick, broken or have symptoms, you’re asking otherwise healthy people to ask for an emergency use authorized vaccine.
People definitely run to the doctor when they come down with COVID after forgoing the vaccine.
And go to the emergency room with the flu
Yep. When was the last time the flu killed 675,000 Americans?

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:11 pm
by lagerhead
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:45 pm
lagerhead wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:38 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:58 pm
lagerhead wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:43 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:35 pm
Kismet wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:11 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:27 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:10 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:09 pm Can someone explain to me why folks trust govt, fda, cdc, science, tech, doctors when it comes to monoclonal?

But not for vaccine?
Yep. It's what I called a "logic trap" earlier.

You can't square the two. And you also can't square why they supposedly don't believe what their doctors tell them----yet when they get really sick, they run to these same doctors for help. That's the tell: if they REALLY didn't believe doctors, they'd simply stay home and die....and not go running to doctors and ER's around the country, begging them for help.


So you're left with: these people are freaking idiots, trying to show the world that they're free thinkers. And if they only killed themselves and no one else, I'd feel sorry for them. Instead? I'm livid at their entirely phony, hypocritical behavior....that's killing others, and keeping the virus around.

They're not done, btw. They'll find a new, even lower level of stupid in the next few months.
Logic trap? That’s beyond kind
Quite right. Stupid is as stupid does and it looks like more stupider is coming
Alabama had more deaths than births last year, a first in its recorded history.
Mississippi governor harping on political BS (like Feds rationing monoclonal antibody treatment as there is not enough supply for the level of stupid in his state) as his state has the highest per capita death rate in the country and if it were a country, second in the world. Despite being pressed multiple times, he just could not endorse getting vaccinated. Talk to your doctor, yada, yada yada. :oops: :oops:
Mississippi is a third world country
People run to their doctors when they are sick, broken or have symptoms, you’re asking otherwise healthy people to ask for an emergency use authorized vaccine.
People definitely run to the doctor when they come down with COVID after forgoing the vaccine.
And go to the emergency room with the flu
Yep. When was the last time the flu killed 675,000 Americans?
Pre flu shot exactly 100 years ago.

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/index ... -pandemics

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:22 pm
by Typical Lax Dad
lagerhead wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:11 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:45 pm
lagerhead wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:38 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:58 pm
lagerhead wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:43 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:35 pm
Kismet wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:11 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:27 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:10 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:09 pm Can someone explain to me why folks trust govt, fda, cdc, science, tech, doctors when it comes to monoclonal?

But not for vaccine?
Yep. It's what I called a "logic trap" earlier.

You can't square the two. And you also can't square why they supposedly don't believe what their doctors tell them----yet when they get really sick, they run to these same doctors for help. That's the tell: if they REALLY didn't believe doctors, they'd simply stay home and die....and not go running to doctors and ER's around the country, begging them for help.


So you're left with: these people are freaking idiots, trying to show the world that they're free thinkers. And if they only killed themselves and no one else, I'd feel sorry for them. Instead? I'm livid at their entirely phony, hypocritical behavior....that's killing others, and keeping the virus around.

They're not done, btw. They'll find a new, even lower level of stupid in the next few months.
Logic trap? That’s beyond kind
Quite right. Stupid is as stupid does and it looks like more stupider is coming
Alabama had more deaths than births last year, a first in its recorded history.
Mississippi governor harping on political BS (like Feds rationing monoclonal antibody treatment as there is not enough supply for the level of stupid in his state) as his state has the highest per capita death rate in the country and if it were a country, second in the world. Despite being pressed multiple times, he just could not endorse getting vaccinated. Talk to your doctor, yada, yada yada. :oops: :oops:
Mississippi is a third world country
People run to their doctors when they are sick, broken or have symptoms, you’re asking otherwise healthy people to ask for an emergency use authorized vaccine.
People definitely run to the doctor when they come down with COVID after forgoing the vaccine.
And go to the emergency room with the flu
Yep. When was the last time the flu killed 675,000 Americans?
Pre flu shot exactly 100 years ago.

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/index ... -pandemics
Something to aspire to I reckon.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:29 pm
by lagerhead
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:22 pm
lagerhead wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:11 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:45 pm
lagerhead wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:38 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:58 pm
lagerhead wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:43 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:35 pm
Kismet wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:11 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:27 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:10 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:09 pm Can someone explain to me why folks trust govt, fda, cdc, science, tech, doctors when it comes to monoclonal?

But not for vaccine?
Yep. It's what I called a "logic trap" earlier.

You can't square the two. And you also can't square why they supposedly don't believe what their doctors tell them----yet when they get really sick, they run to these same doctors for help. That's the tell: if they REALLY didn't believe doctors, they'd simply stay home and die....and not go running to doctors and ER's around the country, begging them for help.


So you're left with: these people are freaking idiots, trying to show the world that they're free thinkers. And if they only killed themselves and no one else, I'd feel sorry for them. Instead? I'm livid at their entirely phony, hypocritical behavior....that's killing others, and keeping the virus around.

They're not done, btw. They'll find a new, even lower level of stupid in the next few months.
Logic trap? That’s beyond kind
Quite right. Stupid is as stupid does and it looks like more stupider is coming
Alabama had more deaths than births last year, a first in its recorded history.
Mississippi governor harping on political BS (like Feds rationing monoclonal antibody treatment as there is not enough supply for the level of stupid in his state) as his state has the highest per capita death rate in the country and if it were a country, second in the world. Despite being pressed multiple times, he just could not endorse getting vaccinated. Talk to your doctor, yada, yada yada. :oops: :oops:
Mississippi is a third world country
People run to their doctors when they are sick, broken or have symptoms, you’re asking otherwise healthy people to ask for an emergency use authorized vaccine.
People definitely run to the doctor when they come down with COVID after forgoing the vaccine.
And go to the emergency room with the flu
Yep. When was the last time the flu killed 675,000 Americans?
Pre flu shot exactly 100 years ago.

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/index ... -pandemics
Something to aspire to I reckon.
The evolution of flu shots.

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:10 pm
by JoeMauer89
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:45 pm
lagerhead wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 7:38 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:58 pm
lagerhead wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 4:43 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:35 pm
Kismet wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:11 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:27 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:10 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:09 pm Can someone explain to me why folks trust govt, fda, cdc, science, tech, doctors when it comes to monoclonal?

But not for vaccine?
Yep. It's what I called a "logic trap" earlier.

You can't square the two. And you also can't square why they supposedly don't believe what their doctors tell them----yet when they get really sick, they run to these same doctors for help. That's the tell: if they REALLY didn't believe doctors, they'd simply stay home and die....and not go running to doctors and ER's around the country, begging them for help.


So you're left with: these people are freaking idiots, trying to show the world that they're free thinkers. And if they only killed themselves and no one else, I'd feel sorry for them. Instead? I'm livid at their entirely phony, hypocritical behavior....that's killing others, and keeping the virus around.

They're not done, btw. They'll find a new, even lower level of stupid in the next few months.
Logic trap? That’s beyond kind
Quite right. Stupid is as stupid does and it looks like more stupider is coming
Alabama had more deaths than births last year, a first in its recorded history.
Mississippi governor harping on political BS (like Feds rationing monoclonal antibody treatment as there is not enough supply for the level of stupid in his state) as his state has the highest per capita death rate in the country and if it were a country, second in the world. Despite being pressed multiple times, he just could not endorse getting vaccinated. Talk to your doctor, yada, yada yada. :oops: :oops:
Mississippi is a third world country
People run to their doctors when they are sick, broken or have symptoms, you’re asking otherwise healthy people to ask for an emergency use authorized vaccine.
People definitely run to the doctor when they come down with COVID after forgoing the vaccine.
And go to the emergency room with the flu
Yep. When was the last time the flu killed 675,000 Americans?
650K people die yearly from Heart Disease and 600K from Cancer. Stop making that comparison, it's nothing more than a political potshot. It's not as black and white as that. When was the last time our media (The majority of it) sowed so much misnformation, fear, discord and divisiveness? Oh that's right, EVERY SINGLE DAY. Right.

Joe

Re: All things CoronaVirus

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 9:11 pm
by Farfromgeneva
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:35 pm
Kismet wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:11 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:27 pm
a fan wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 1:10 pm
ggait wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 12:09 pm Can someone explain to me why folks trust govt, fda, cdc, science, tech, doctors when it comes to monoclonal?

But not for vaccine?
Yep. It's what I called a "logic trap" earlier.

You can't square the two. And you also can't square why they supposedly don't believe what their doctors tell them----yet when they get really sick, they run to these same doctors for help. That's the tell: if they REALLY didn't believe doctors, they'd simply stay home and die....and not go running to doctors and ER's around the country, begging them for help.


So you're left with: these people are freaking idiots, trying to show the world that they're free thinkers. And if they only killed themselves and no one else, I'd feel sorry for them. Instead? I'm livid at their entirely phony, hypocritical behavior....that's killing others, and keeping the virus around.

They're not done, btw. They'll find a new, even lower level of stupid in the next few months.
Logic trap? That’s beyond kind
Quite right. Stupid is as stupid does and it looks like more stupider is coming
Alabama had more deaths than births last year, a first in its recorded history.
Mississippi governor harping on political BS (like Feds rationing monoclonal antibody treatment as there is not enough supply for the level of stupid in his state) as his state has the highest per capita death rate in the country and if it were a country, second in the world. Despite being pressed multiple times, he just could not endorse getting vaccinated. Talk to your doctor, yada, yada yada. :oops: :oops:
Mississippi is a third world country
It’s nasty. And not in the way normal people would like but that OS would use to refer to pretty younger women who don’t share his political views.