When do you have to start knocking on neighbors doors like The Jesus?youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:51 amThey are....I just ran the word 'testicles' in the 43mb VAERS CSV file, it hits often, with notes indicating swelling and pain. Patients are lyin'Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:33 am The government is lyin’
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/09/15/nic ... cles-.html
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Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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So we agree, the gov't is lyin'.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:58 am64 cases out of how many men vaccinated in US?youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:51 amThey are....I just ran the word 'testicles' in the 43mb VAERS CSV file, it hits often, with notes indicating swelling and pain. Patients are lyin'Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:33 am The government is lyin’
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/09/15/nic ... cles-.html
https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield ... S=COVID-19
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
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nope, Trinidad gov't isn't lying. Small country.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:03 pmSo we agree, the gov't is lyin'.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:58 am64 cases out of how many men vaccinated in US?youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:51 amThey are....I just ran the word 'testicles' in the 43mb VAERS CSV file, it hits often, with notes indicating swelling and pain. Patients are lyin'Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:33 am The government is lyin’
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/09/15/nic ... cles-.html
https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield ... S=COVID-19
Here in US, no causality is proven...see above.
In Trinidad, may have as likely to have swollen testicles from some microbe in the water as anything else...
But even if some tiny % of men actually do have this issue, triggered by vaccine, it's not serious.
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….. similar to me seeing Veronica Webb on the street back in the day.
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Over here…Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:59 amMinaj is more concerned with finding that AnacondaTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:08 amWhat does Joe Rogan, Nikki Minaj and Bret Weinstein have to say?
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Probably 14 year olds leaving their girlfriends’ homes.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:51 amThey are....I just ran the word 'testicles' in the 43mb VAERS CSV file, it hits often, with notes indicating swelling and pain. Patients are lyin'Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:33 am The government is lyin’
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/09/15/nic ... cles-.html
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You are trip....You search "swollen", then call it a done deal and explain everyone else's medical issues away as a microbe or some pre-existing ailment.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:08 pmnope, Trinidad gov't isn't lying. Small country.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:03 pmSo we agree, the gov't is lyin'.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:58 am64 cases out of how many men vaccinated in US?youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:51 amThey are....I just ran the word 'testicles' in the 43mb VAERS CSV file, it hits often, with notes indicating swelling and pain. Patients are lyin'Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:33 am The government is lyin’
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/09/15/nic ... cles-.html
https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield ... S=COVID-19
Here in US, no causality is proven...see above.
In Trinidad, may have as likely to have swollen testicles from some microbe in the water as anything else...
But even if some tiny % of men actually do have this issue, triggered by vaccine, it's not serious.
"left testicle swollen to 3 times normal size"
" I had painful swelling of the testicles within the first 24 hours. They were hot, red, very much enlarged and extremely painful. I had a mild fever (99.4) which was about 2 degrees above normal. The selling has subsided in the second 24 hours and my temperature returned to normal. There is still moderate swelling and sensitivity. I had not seen this reported as a common side effect of the vaccination. I thought it should be reported."
"testicular swelling (orchitis). Persisted for 3 weeks and exacerbated after second vaccine dose and then slowly subsided 3- 4 weeks after that."
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
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“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
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Get it get it get it.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:19 pmOver here…Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:59 amMinaj is more concerned with finding that AnacondaTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:08 amWhat does Joe Rogan, Nikki Minaj and Bret Weinstein have to say?
Too much trunk for me. I like cushion, not going for the boney, bruised thigh Eastern European mail order bride crowd that runs around the clubs of NYC with resting biyach faces but her “cargo capacity” intimidates this average white guy.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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You in this video?youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:21 pmYou are trip....You search "swollen", then call it a done deal and explain everyone else's medical issues away as a microbe or some pre-existing ailment.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:08 pmnope, Trinidad gov't isn't lying. Small country.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:03 pmSo we agree, the gov't is lyin'.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:58 am64 cases out of how many men vaccinated in US?youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:51 amThey are....I just ran the word 'testicles' in the 43mb VAERS CSV file, it hits often, with notes indicating swelling and pain. Patients are lyin'Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:33 am The government is lyin’
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/09/15/nic ... cles-.html
https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield ... S=COVID-19
Here in US, no causality is proven...see above.
In Trinidad, may have as likely to have swollen testicles from some microbe in the water as anything else...
But even if some tiny % of men actually do have this issue, triggered by vaccine, it's not serious.
"left testicle swollen to 3 times normal size"
" I had painful swelling of the testicles within the first 24 hours. They were hot, red, very much enlarged and extremely painful. I had a mild fever (99.4) which was about 2 degrees above normal. The selling has subsided in the second 24 hours and my temperature returned to normal. There is still moderate swelling and sensitivity. I had not seen this reported as a common side effect of the vaccination. I thought it should be reported."
"testicular swelling (orchitis). Persisted for 3 weeks and exacerbated after second vaccine dose and then slowly subsided 3- 4 weeks after that."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vjcDsSfloak&noapp=1
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Nope....but these people may have taken the shot...Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:30 pmYou in this video?youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:21 pmYou are trip....You search "swollen", then call it a done deal and explain everyone else's medical issues away as a microbe or some pre-existing ailment.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:08 pmnope, Trinidad gov't isn't lying. Small country.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:03 pmSo we agree, the gov't is lyin'.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:58 am64 cases out of how many men vaccinated in US?youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:51 amThey are....I just ran the word 'testicles' in the 43mb VAERS CSV file, it hits often, with notes indicating swelling and pain. Patients are lyin'Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:33 am The government is lyin’
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/09/15/nic ... cles-.html
https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield ... S=COVID-19
Here in US, no causality is proven...see above.
In Trinidad, may have as likely to have swollen testicles from some microbe in the water as anything else...
But even if some tiny % of men actually do have this issue, triggered by vaccine, it's not serious.
"left testicle swollen to 3 times normal size"
" I had painful swelling of the testicles within the first 24 hours. They were hot, red, very much enlarged and extremely painful. I had a mild fever (99.4) which was about 2 degrees above normal. The selling has subsided in the second 24 hours and my temperature returned to normal. There is still moderate swelling and sensitivity. I had not seen this reported as a common side effect of the vaccination. I thought it should be reported."
"testicular swelling (orchitis). Persisted for 3 weeks and exacerbated after second vaccine dose and then slowly subsided 3- 4 weeks after that."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vjcDsSfloak&noapp=1
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
~Livy
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
~Livy
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
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I need to hire that girl for my next party. To man the bathroom door.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:35 pmNope....but these people may have taken the shot...Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:30 pmYou in this video?youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:21 pmYou are trip....You search "swollen", then call it a done deal and explain everyone else's medical issues away as a microbe or some pre-existing ailment.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:08 pmnope, Trinidad gov't isn't lying. Small country.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:03 pmSo we agree, the gov't is lyin'.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:58 am64 cases out of how many men vaccinated in US?youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:51 amThey are....I just ran the word 'testicles' in the 43mb VAERS CSV file, it hits often, with notes indicating swelling and pain. Patients are lyin'Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:33 am The government is lyin’
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/09/15/nic ... cles-.html
https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield ... S=COVID-19
Here in US, no causality is proven...see above.
In Trinidad, may have as likely to have swollen testicles from some microbe in the water as anything else...
But even if some tiny % of men actually do have this issue, triggered by vaccine, it's not serious.
"left testicle swollen to 3 times normal size"
" I had painful swelling of the testicles within the first 24 hours. They were hot, red, very much enlarged and extremely painful. I had a mild fever (99.4) which was about 2 degrees above normal. The selling has subsided in the second 24 hours and my temperature returned to normal. There is still moderate swelling and sensitivity. I had not seen this reported as a common side effect of the vaccination. I thought it should be reported."
"testicular swelling (orchitis). Persisted for 3 weeks and exacerbated after second vaccine dose and then slowly subsided 3- 4 weeks after that."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vjcDsSfloak&noapp=1
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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I prefer an athletic frame and a C cup. Keepers were a ballerina, tennis player, cheerleader and a 400M sprinter and long jumper….Nikki too thick for my taste. I would let others “retrieve it”.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:27 pmGet it get it get it.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:19 pmOver here…Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:59 amMinaj is more concerned with finding that AnacondaTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:08 amWhat does Joe Rogan, Nikki Minaj and Bret Weinstein have to say?
Too much trunk for me. I like cushion, not going for the boney, bruised thigh Eastern European mail order bride crowd that runs around the clubs of NYC with resting biyach faces but her “cargo capacity” intimidates this average white guy.
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I searched "vaers testicles covid", found what I found...swollen had nothing to do with it.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:21 pmYou are trip....You search "swollen", then call it a done deal and explain everyone else's medical issues away as a microbe or some pre-existing ailment.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:08 pmnope, Trinidad gov't isn't lying. Small country.youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:03 pmSo we agree, the gov't is lyin'.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:58 am64 cases out of how many men vaccinated in US?youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:51 amThey are....I just ran the word 'testicles' in the 43mb VAERS CSV file, it hits often, with notes indicating swelling and pain. Patients are lyin'Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:33 am The government is lyin’
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/09/15/nic ... cles-.html
https://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield ... S=COVID-19
Here in US, no causality is proven...see above.
In Trinidad, may have as likely to have swollen testicles from some microbe in the water as anything else...
But even if some tiny % of men actually do have this issue, triggered by vaccine, it's not serious.
"left testicle swollen to 3 times normal size"
" I had painful swelling of the testicles within the first 24 hours. They were hot, red, very much enlarged and extremely painful. I had a mild fever (99.4) which was about 2 degrees above normal. The selling has subsided in the second 24 hours and my temperature returned to normal. There is still moderate swelling and sensitivity. I had not seen this reported as a common side effect of the vaccination. I thought it should be reported."
"testicular swelling (orchitis). Persisted for 3 weeks and exacerbated after second vaccine dose and then slowly subsided 3- 4 weeks after that."
It confirms that there are indeed 64 reports having to do with testicles...out of how many million men vaccinated?
And is that more reports of testicles swelling (or such) than normally would occur each year?
Again, I wouldn't be surprised if a tiny fraction had such a reaction, I certainly felt awful...just didn't happen to have that specific complaint.
There are indeed some strange reactions by a very few individuals to the vaccines, some, perhaps even many, of which may have actually been triggered by the vaccination. No argument from me.
But compare that to the hundreds of thousands in US dead, many more hospitalized with potential long term effects...dwarfs any concerns about vaccine.
This thing isn't going to go away, vaccinated people get it and pass it, so the unvaccinated will continue to face this thing whether they like it or not, and the rest of us will bear their healthcare costs and the stress it will continue to put on our health systems and workers.
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Thigh man-me too. I love me some lulemon wrapped buckhead housewives.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:18 pmI prefer an athletic frame and a C cup. Keepers were a ballerina, tennis player, cheerleader and a 400M sprinter and long jumper….Nikki too thick for my taste. I would let others “retrieve it”.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:27 pmGet it get it get it.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:19 pmOver here…Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:59 amMinaj is more concerned with finding that AnacondaTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:08 amWhat does Joe Rogan, Nikki Minaj and Bret Weinstein have to say?
Too much trunk for me. I like cushion, not going for the boney, bruised thigh Eastern European mail order bride crowd that runs around the clubs of NYC with resting biyach faces but her “cargo capacity” intimidates this average white guy.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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...just don't talk that way about cable news bunnies.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:23 pmThigh man-me too. I love me some lulemon wrapped buckhead housewives.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:18 pmI prefer an athletic frame and a C cup. Keepers were a ballerina, tennis player, cheerleader and a 400M sprinter and long jumper….Nikki too thick for my taste. I would let others “retrieve it”.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:27 pmGet it get it get it.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:19 pmOver here…Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:59 amMinaj is more concerned with finding that AnacondaTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:08 amWhat does Joe Rogan, Nikki Minaj and Bret Weinstein have to say?
Too much trunk for me. I like cushion, not going for the boney, bruised thigh Eastern European mail order bride crowd that runs around the clubs of NYC with resting biyach faces but her “cargo capacity” intimidates this average white guy.
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I shared some pics of Natsha, I’m not the one who calls people I don’t know even on an Internet forum “nasty” and all sorts of “pejorative” terms. That’s a major difference I’m frankly surprised you can’t understand. Thought you were smarter than that.old salt wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:28 pm...just don't talk that way about cable news bunnies.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:23 pmThigh man-me too. I love me some lulemon wrapped buckhead housewives.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:18 pmI prefer an athletic frame and a C cup. Keepers were a ballerina, tennis player, cheerleader and a 400M sprinter and long jumper….Nikki too thick for my taste. I would let others “retrieve it”.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:27 pmGet it get it get it.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:19 pmOver here…Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:59 amMinaj is more concerned with finding that AnacondaTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:08 amWhat does Joe Rogan, Nikki Minaj and Bret Weinstein have to say?
Too much trunk for me. I like cushion, not going for the boney, bruised thigh Eastern European mail order bride crowd that runs around the clubs of NYC with resting biyach faces but her “cargo capacity” intimidates this average white guy.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Pretty interesting piece on the character and beliefs of the unvaccinated, based on a Pew poll/survey:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... -among-us/
"There are valid debates to be had about whether the federal or even state governments should mandate coronavirus vaccines (which, despite what you might have heard, is still not the Biden administration’s actual policy).
There is considerably less real debate about whether virtually anything else would do the trick in converting most of the remaining vaccine holdouts.
An extensive Pew Research Center poll released Wednesday laid bare the steep hurdles — which go far beyond vaccine safety — when it comes to persuading the unvaccinated to get the shot and truly help stomp out a virus that is thriving upon their refusal. While the number who are truly dug in has declined over the course of 2021, it has done so slowly. And it’s logical to assume the remaining unvaccinated are even more committed to their status than the converts were.
How committed are they? The Pew poll shows about two-thirds of the unvaccinated (68 percent) say they know someone who has been hospitalized or has died of covid-19. But just 37 percent of them say the virus is a major threat to the health of the U.S. population.
This belief that a virus that has killed over 660,000 Americans somehow isn’t really a big deal has been a strong and consistent thread in vaccine skepticism, which really began as skepticism about the pandemic writ large (see: “It’s just the flu”).
But there are a number of other factors on which the unvaccinated are just as far out of step, which seemingly combine for a witches’ brew of vaccine refusal.
A big one is peer pressure — or the lack thereof. The vaccination campaign has left us increasingly divided between red states and blue states when it comes to vaccination rates. But even within those states, it has resulted in wider gaps between heavily vaccinated communities and largely unvaccinated ones.
The remaining unvaccinated have far fewer friends or people around them who might urge vaccination than the rest of the population. In fact, while 59 percent of vaccinated people say most people around them encourage getting vaccinated, that’s true of just 11 percent of unvaccinated people. (A plurality say there’s about an even mix of pro-vaccine and anti-vaccine views.)
It’s possible that some are hearing only the messages they want to hear, but it also means very few of the holdouts are internalizing a largely pro-vaccine message from the people they know best.
There is also a strong vein of what can perhaps best be described as an all-encompassing, nothing-really-matters skepticism running through the unvaccinated community.
That these people would be suspect about the vaccine isn’t surprising, either, and they are — and hardly just when it comes to safety. Just 23 percent say vaccines are the best way to protect against the virus (including only a handful who strongly agree with that).
But the poll also shows they are largely dismissive of virtually any mitigation. Just 12 percent say coronavirus restrictions have done a lot to prevent hospitalizations and deaths.
Unvaccinated people are also less likely to be concerned about becoming infected and requiring hospitalization (32 percent) than vaccinated people (50 percent), even though they’re significantly more likely to wind up there.
That makes some sense if you somehow don’t believe the virus is that bad. What struck me about Pew’s numbers, though, is that they show an even bigger gap when it comes to concern for others.
While 66 percent of vaccinated people say they are worried about unknowingly spreading the virus to others, just 38 percent of unvaccinated people say the same. This is, again, among a group of people in which two-thirds say they personally know someone who has died or been hospitalized.
That lack of concern for hurting others was also borne out elsewhere. Even if you don’t trust the vaccines and think this should be your choice, that’s not necessarily the same as believing getting one wouldn’t be good for others. But very few unvaccinated people indicate they feel such responsibility. Asked whether they believed remaining unvaccinated is hurting the country, just 13 percent agreed that it did. Fully 87 percent suggested it had no real impact.
So in sum, the vast majority of the unvaccinated don’t think vaccination is the best tool (it is), don’t seem to think much of anything really helps stop the virus, don’t worry about infecting others, and feel almost nothing in terms of a collective responsibility.
That’s not really a recipe for mass conversion. And when that’s gone, about all you have left is compulsion."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... -among-us/
"There are valid debates to be had about whether the federal or even state governments should mandate coronavirus vaccines (which, despite what you might have heard, is still not the Biden administration’s actual policy).
There is considerably less real debate about whether virtually anything else would do the trick in converting most of the remaining vaccine holdouts.
An extensive Pew Research Center poll released Wednesday laid bare the steep hurdles — which go far beyond vaccine safety — when it comes to persuading the unvaccinated to get the shot and truly help stomp out a virus that is thriving upon their refusal. While the number who are truly dug in has declined over the course of 2021, it has done so slowly. And it’s logical to assume the remaining unvaccinated are even more committed to their status than the converts were.
How committed are they? The Pew poll shows about two-thirds of the unvaccinated (68 percent) say they know someone who has been hospitalized or has died of covid-19. But just 37 percent of them say the virus is a major threat to the health of the U.S. population.
This belief that a virus that has killed over 660,000 Americans somehow isn’t really a big deal has been a strong and consistent thread in vaccine skepticism, which really began as skepticism about the pandemic writ large (see: “It’s just the flu”).
But there are a number of other factors on which the unvaccinated are just as far out of step, which seemingly combine for a witches’ brew of vaccine refusal.
A big one is peer pressure — or the lack thereof. The vaccination campaign has left us increasingly divided between red states and blue states when it comes to vaccination rates. But even within those states, it has resulted in wider gaps between heavily vaccinated communities and largely unvaccinated ones.
The remaining unvaccinated have far fewer friends or people around them who might urge vaccination than the rest of the population. In fact, while 59 percent of vaccinated people say most people around them encourage getting vaccinated, that’s true of just 11 percent of unvaccinated people. (A plurality say there’s about an even mix of pro-vaccine and anti-vaccine views.)
It’s possible that some are hearing only the messages they want to hear, but it also means very few of the holdouts are internalizing a largely pro-vaccine message from the people they know best.
There is also a strong vein of what can perhaps best be described as an all-encompassing, nothing-really-matters skepticism running through the unvaccinated community.
That these people would be suspect about the vaccine isn’t surprising, either, and they are — and hardly just when it comes to safety. Just 23 percent say vaccines are the best way to protect against the virus (including only a handful who strongly agree with that).
But the poll also shows they are largely dismissive of virtually any mitigation. Just 12 percent say coronavirus restrictions have done a lot to prevent hospitalizations and deaths.
Unvaccinated people are also less likely to be concerned about becoming infected and requiring hospitalization (32 percent) than vaccinated people (50 percent), even though they’re significantly more likely to wind up there.
That makes some sense if you somehow don’t believe the virus is that bad. What struck me about Pew’s numbers, though, is that they show an even bigger gap when it comes to concern for others.
While 66 percent of vaccinated people say they are worried about unknowingly spreading the virus to others, just 38 percent of unvaccinated people say the same. This is, again, among a group of people in which two-thirds say they personally know someone who has died or been hospitalized.
That lack of concern for hurting others was also borne out elsewhere. Even if you don’t trust the vaccines and think this should be your choice, that’s not necessarily the same as believing getting one wouldn’t be good for others. But very few unvaccinated people indicate they feel such responsibility. Asked whether they believed remaining unvaccinated is hurting the country, just 13 percent agreed that it did. Fully 87 percent suggested it had no real impact.
So in sum, the vast majority of the unvaccinated don’t think vaccination is the best tool (it is), don’t seem to think much of anything really helps stop the virus, don’t worry about infecting others, and feel almost nothing in terms of a collective responsibility.
That’s not really a recipe for mass conversion. And when that’s gone, about all you have left is compulsion."
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... society's misfits?seacoaster wrote: ↑Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:49 pm Pretty interesting piece on the character and beliefs of the unvaccinated, based on a Pew poll/survey:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... -among-us/
"There are valid debates to be had about whether the federal or even state governments should mandate coronavirus vaccines (which, despite what you might have heard, is still not the Biden administration’s actual policy).
There is considerably less real debate about whether virtually anything else would do the trick in converting most of the remaining vaccine holdouts.
An extensive Pew Research Center poll released Wednesday laid bare the steep hurdles — which go far beyond vaccine safety — when it comes to persuading the unvaccinated to get the shot and truly help stomp out a virus that is thriving upon their refusal. While the number who are truly dug in has declined over the course of 2021, it has done so slowly. And it’s logical to assume the remaining unvaccinated are even more committed to their status than the converts were.
How committed are they? The Pew poll shows about two-thirds of the unvaccinated (68 percent) say they know someone who has been hospitalized or has died of covid-19. But just 37 percent of them say the virus is a major threat to the health of the U.S. population.
This belief that a virus that has killed over 660,000 Americans somehow isn’t really a big deal has been a strong and consistent thread in vaccine skepticism, which really began as skepticism about the pandemic writ large (see: “It’s just the flu”).
But there are a number of other factors on which the unvaccinated are just as far out of step, which seemingly combine for a witches’ brew of vaccine refusal.
A big one is peer pressure — or the lack thereof. The vaccination campaign has left us increasingly divided between red states and blue states when it comes to vaccination rates. But even within those states, it has resulted in wider gaps between heavily vaccinated communities and largely unvaccinated ones.
The remaining unvaccinated have far fewer friends or people around them who might urge vaccination than the rest of the population. In fact, while 59 percent of vaccinated people say most people around them encourage getting vaccinated, that’s true of just 11 percent of unvaccinated people. (A plurality say there’s about an even mix of pro-vaccine and anti-vaccine views.)
It’s possible that some are hearing only the messages they want to hear, but it also means very few of the holdouts are internalizing a largely pro-vaccine message from the people they know best.
There is also a strong vein of what can perhaps best be described as an all-encompassing, nothing-really-matters skepticism running through the unvaccinated community.
That these people would be suspect about the vaccine isn’t surprising, either, and they are — and hardly just when it comes to safety. Just 23 percent say vaccines are the best way to protect against the virus (including only a handful who strongly agree with that).
But the poll also shows they are largely dismissive of virtually any mitigation. Just 12 percent say coronavirus restrictions have done a lot to prevent hospitalizations and deaths.
Unvaccinated people are also less likely to be concerned about becoming infected and requiring hospitalization (32 percent) than vaccinated people (50 percent), even though they’re significantly more likely to wind up there.
That makes some sense if you somehow don’t believe the virus is that bad. What struck me about Pew’s numbers, though, is that they show an even bigger gap when it comes to concern for others.
While 66 percent of vaccinated people say they are worried about unknowingly spreading the virus to others, just 38 percent of unvaccinated people say the same. This is, again, among a group of people in which two-thirds say they personally know someone who has died or been hospitalized.
That lack of concern for hurting others was also borne out elsewhere. Even if you don’t trust the vaccines and think this should be your choice, that’s not necessarily the same as believing getting one wouldn’t be good for others. But very few unvaccinated people indicate they feel such responsibility. Asked whether they believed remaining unvaccinated is hurting the country, just 13 percent agreed that it did. Fully 87 percent suggested it had no real impact.
So in sum, the vast majority of the unvaccinated don’t think vaccination is the best tool (it is), don’t seem to think much of anything really helps stop the virus, don’t worry about infecting others, and feel almost nothing in terms of a collective responsibility.
That’s not really a recipe for mass conversion. And when that’s gone, about all you have left is compulsion."
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Arkansas hospital system educating their employees on Covid vaccine religious exemptions:
https://apple.news/AxPx9NCjNQbK0JI782QJvXA
https://apple.news/AxPx9NCjNQbK0JI782QJvXA