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jhu72 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:01 am Real world example of the meaning of climate change.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:34 am Climate change is a hoax.

Don't fall for hoaxes.

Thanks for coming to my talk.

Cooter wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:16 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:34 am Climate change is a hoax.

Don't fall for hoaxes.

Thanks for coming to my talk.

I am sure that you could not be denying that we are in a warming trend with temperature readings being higher on average, the arctic ice pack melting, glaciers shrinking, sea level rising, ...

Cooter wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:16 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:34 am Climate change is a hoax.

Don't fall for hoaxes.

Thanks for coming to my talk.

I am sure that you could not be denying that we are in a warming trend with temperature readings being higher on average, the arctic ice pack melting, glaciers shrinking, sea level rising, ...

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:38 am Sure. We are in a warming trend today. Tomorrow, it will be a cooling trend.

I always think of two things regarding this issue:

1. The earth recalibrates where it needs to be all of the time; if the earth warms too much, there'll be an opposite pull by earth to balance the need; these sensible observations are supported by millions of years of earth's history.

2. Even were earth to continue to warm over a few decades, that will surely cause unexpected benefits for life on earth, better and longer growing seasons, development of heretofore undeveloped lands.

Nothing is as sad or bad as people scream (unless of course you die). This earth will be here long after you and I are gone, and it's been here long before we were even a glint in our parent's eyes. This mass hysteria is a scam perpetrated mostly by very smart grifters, seizing on empirical evidence that we have warmed recently, in order to scare voters to vote these politicians more $$.

The scientists who say we have warmed (and we have), have no idea that the politicians abuse the scientists' data to affect other ends.

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:38 am

Cooter wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:16 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:34 am Climate change is a hoax.

Don't fall for hoaxes.

Thanks for coming to my talk.

I am sure that you could not be denying that we are in a warming trend with temperature readings being higher on average, the arctic ice pack melting, glaciers shrinking, sea level rising, ...

Sure. We are in a warming trend today. Tomorrow, it will be a cooling trend.

I always think of two things regarding this issue:

1. The earth recalibrates where it needs to be all of the time; if the earth warms too much, there'll be an opposite pull by earth to balance the need; these sensible observations are supported by millions of years of earth's history.

There is NO evidence of "recalibration" (whatever that is). I am not sure the Gaia hypothesis is a valid scientific one anyway. Your observations are not sensible - they are ill-informed. More an attempt to say cyclical so it will come back. And while there are cycles due to orbital changes, for example, those are quite long term (10s of thousands of years.

2. Even were earth to continue to warm over a few decades, that will surely cause unexpected benefits for life on earth, better and longer growing seasons, development of heretofore undeveloped lands. Drought, loss of farmland, too much rain in other areas - will not necessarily be a net gain.

Nothing is as sad or bad as people scream (unless of course you die). This earth will be here long after you and I are gone, and it's been here long before we were even a glint in our parent's eyes. This mass hysteria is a scam perpetrated mostly by very smart grifters, seizing on empirical evidence that we have warmed recently, in order to scare voters to vote these politicians more $$.

The issue is not the Earth. It is the people living on it. And the real possibility of mass displacement when sea levels rise and the place they are living disappears.

The scientists who say we have warmed (and we have), have no idea that the politicians abuse the scientists' data to affect other ends.

It is the scientists who are saying we need to do something. They are frustrated with a lot of the politics - but none more than that you espouse. Ignore at all of our own peril.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:22 pm God will make a way. And if you get right with God, we can all meet in a more beautiful place and continue this discussion.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 5:26 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:22 pm God will make a way. And if you get right with God, we can all meet in a more beautiful place and continue this discussion.

“[God] has established the earth on its foundations; it will not be moved from its place forever and ever.”​—Psalm 104:5.

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:22 pm God will make a way. And if you get right with God, we can all meet in a more beautiful place and continue this discussion.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:14 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:22 pm God will make a way. And if you get right with God, we can all meet in a more beautiful place and continue this discussion.

If bestowed upon you, use the intellect you may have been gifted with.

Cooter wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:05 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:38 am Sure. We are in a warming trend today. Tomorrow, it will be a cooling trend.

I always think of two things regarding this issue:

1. The earth recalibrates where it needs to be all of the time; if the earth warms too much, there'll be an opposite pull by earth to balance the need; these sensible observations are supported by millions of years of earth's history.

The Earth does fluctuate between warm and cool periods. Of course, often these periods are very long, lasting long than you or I shall live or even the length of time that man has existed.

2. Even were earth to continue to warm over a few decades, that will surely cause unexpected benefits for life on earth, better and longer growing seasons, development of heretofore undeveloped lands.

Global warming would cause a sea level rise which would submerge a lot of land. In particular, if it caused the antarctic glaciers to melt, it would cause enough of a sea level rise to submerge much of Florida.
Warming could cause arid conditions, which would not be good for agriculture. It could cause the increase of major storms.

Nothing is as sad or bad as people scream (unless of course you die). This earth will be here long after you and I are gone, and it's been here long before we were even a glint in our parent's eyes. This mass hysteria is a scam perpetrated mostly by very smart grifters, seizing on empirical evidence that we have warmed recently, in order to scare voters to vote these politicians more $$.

The scientists who say we have warmed (and we have), have no idea that the politicians abuse the scientists' data to affect other ends.

The Earth will be here a long time but might not have human life on it for much of it.

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 9:19 am

Cooter wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:05 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:38 am Sure. We are in a warming trend today. Tomorrow, it will be a cooling trend.

I always think of two things regarding this issue:

1. The earth recalibrates where it needs to be all of the time; if the earth warms too much, there'll be an opposite pull by earth to balance the need; these sensible observations are supported by millions of years of earth's history.

The Earth does fluctuate between warm and cool periods. Of course, often these periods are very long, lasting long than you or I shall live or even the length of time that man has existed.

2. Even were earth to continue to warm over a few decades, that will surely cause unexpected benefits for life on earth, better and longer growing seasons, development of heretofore undeveloped lands.

Global warming would cause a sea level rise which would submerge a lot of land. In particular, if it caused the antarctic glaciers to melt, it would cause enough of a sea level rise to submerge much of Florida.
Warming could cause arid conditions, which would not be good for agriculture. It could cause the increase of major storms.

Nothing is as sad or bad as people scream (unless of course you die). This earth will be here long after you and I are gone, and it's been here long before we were even a glint in our parent's eyes. This mass hysteria is a scam perpetrated mostly by very smart grifters, seizing on empirical evidence that we have warmed recently, in order to scare voters to vote these politicians more $$.

The scientists who say we have warmed (and we have), have no idea that the politicians abuse the scientists' data to affect other ends.

The Earth will be here a long time but might not have human life on it for much of it.

It's about extremes........isn't it?

cooter, if sea levels are rizing, why are cities like Boston building.....and building much.....right on the water ? If governments, truly believe oceans are rising....and rising fast.
Does it Sound like people, in charge, are taking this issue seriously ?

It's like putting your slowest SSDM on like Sowers.....what could go wrong?

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 5:57 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:14 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:22 pm God will make a way. And if you get right with God, we can all meet in a more beautiful place and continue this discussion.

If bestowed upon you, use the intellect you may have been gifted with.

My intellect tells me never to trust environmental extremists who promote a cause to hide their alterior motives.

RedFromMI wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:10 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:38 am

Cooter wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:16 am

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:34 am Climate change is a hoax.

Don't fall for hoaxes.

Thanks for coming to my talk.

I am sure that you could not be denying that we are in a warming trend with temperature readings being higher on average, the arctic ice pack melting, glaciers shrinking, sea level rising, ...

Sure. We are in a warming trend today. Tomorrow, it will be a cooling trend.

I always think of two things regarding this issue:

1. The earth recalibrates where it needs to be all of the time; if the earth warms too much, there'll be an opposite pull by earth to balance the need; these sensible observations are supported by millions of years of earth's history.

There is NO evidence of "recalibration" (whatever that is). I am not sure the Gaia hypothesis is a valid scientific one anyway. Your observations are not sensible - they are ill-informed. More an attempt to say cyclical so it will come back. And while there are cycles due to orbital changes, for example, those are quite long term (10s of thousands of years.

2. Even were earth to continue to warm over a few decades, that will surely cause unexpected benefits for life on earth, better and longer growing seasons, development of heretofore undeveloped lands. Drought, loss of farmland, too much rain in other areas - will not necessarily be a net gain.

Nothing is as sad or bad as people scream (unless of course you die). This earth will be here long after you and I are gone, and it's been here long before we were even a glint in our parent's eyes. This mass hysteria is a scam perpetrated mostly by very smart grifters, seizing on empirical evidence that we have warmed recently, in order to scare voters to vote these politicians more $$.

The issue is not the Earth. It is the people living on it. And the real possibility of mass displacement when sea levels rise and the place they are living disappears.

The scientists who say we have warmed (and we have), have no idea that the politicians abuse the scientists' data to affect other ends.

It is the scientists who are saying we need to do something. They are frustrated with a lot of the politics - but none more than that you espouse. Ignore at all of our own peril.

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 9:45 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 9:19 am

Cooter wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:05 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:38 am Sure. We are in a warming trend today. Tomorrow, it will be a cooling trend.

I always think of two things regarding this issue:

1. The earth recalibrates where it needs to be all of the time; if the earth warms too much, there'll be an opposite pull by earth to balance the need; these sensible observations are supported by millions of years of earth's history.

The Earth does fluctuate between warm and cool periods. Of course, often these periods are very long, lasting long than you or I shall live or even the length of time that man has existed.

2. Even were earth to continue to warm over a few decades, that will surely cause unexpected benefits for life on earth, better and longer growing seasons, development of heretofore undeveloped lands.

Global warming would cause a sea level rise which would submerge a lot of land. In particular, if it caused the antarctic glaciers to melt, it would cause enough of a sea level rise to submerge much of Florida.
Warming could cause arid conditions, which would not be good for agriculture. It could cause the increase of major storms.

Nothing is as sad or bad as people scream (unless of course you die). This earth will be here long after you and I are gone, and it's been here long before we were even a glint in our parent's eyes. This mass hysteria is a scam perpetrated mostly by very smart grifters, seizing on empirical evidence that we have warmed recently, in order to scare voters to vote these politicians more $$.

The scientists who say we have warmed (and we have), have no idea that the politicians abuse the scientists' data to affect other ends.

The Earth will be here a long time but might not have human life on it for much of it.

It's about extremes........isn't it?

cooter, if sea levels are rizing, why are cities like Boston building.....and building much.....right on the water ? If governments, truly believe oceans are rising....and rising fast.
Does it Sound like people, in charge, are taking this issue seriously ?

It's like putting your slowest SSDM on like Sowers.....what could go wrong?

“They” are lying: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/bos ... ooding/amp

A robust mitigation effort will be a solution as things change.

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 1:17 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 9:45 am

runrussellrun wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 9:19 am

Cooter wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:05 pm

Peter Brown wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:38 am Sure. We are in a warming trend today. Tomorrow, it will be a cooling trend.

I always think of two things regarding this issue:

1. The earth recalibrates where it needs to be all of the time; if the earth warms too much, there'll be an opposite pull by earth to balance the need; these sensible observations are supported by millions of years of earth's history.

The Earth does fluctuate between warm and cool periods. Of course, often these periods are very long, lasting long than you or I shall live or even the length of time that man has existed.

2. Even were earth to continue to warm over a few decades, that will surely cause unexpected benefits for life on earth, better and longer growing seasons, development of heretofore undeveloped lands.

Global warming would cause a sea level rise which would submerge a lot of land. In particular, if it caused the antarctic glaciers to melt, it would cause enough of a sea level rise to submerge much of Florida.
Warming could cause arid conditions, which would not be good for agriculture. It could cause the increase of major storms.

Nothing is as sad or bad as people scream (unless of course you die). This earth will be here long after you and I are gone, and it's been here long before we were even a glint in our parent's eyes. This mass hysteria is a scam perpetrated mostly by very smart grifters, seizing on empirical evidence that we have warmed recently, in order to scare voters to vote these politicians more $$.

The scientists who say we have warmed (and we have), have no idea that the politicians abuse the scientists' data to affect other ends.

The Earth will be here a long time but might not have human life on it for much of it.

It's about extremes........isn't it?

cooter, if sea levels are rizing, why are cities like Boston building.....and building much.....right on the water ? If governments, truly believe oceans are rising....and rising fast.
Does it Sound like people, in charge, are taking this issue seriously ?

It's like putting your slowest SSDM on like Sowers.....what could go wrong?

“They” are lying: https://www.sciencenews.org/article/bos ... ooding/amp

A robust mitigation effort will be a solution as things change.

love it......... Is Boston the only city that did landfill? DUH.......thank you for pointing out my point.

Boston will just dump more of Needham's dirt.........instead, idiotic leed certifications and other nonsense won't do anything. bonus points for cork tiles and bikeracks.....

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 11:09 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 5:57 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:14 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:22 pm God will make a way. And if you get right with God, we can all meet in a more beautiful place and continue this discussion.

If bestowed upon you, use the intellect you may have been gifted with.

My intellect tells me never to trust environmental extremists who promote a cause to hide their alterior motives.

You should never trust extremists in any endeavor.

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 4:42 pm

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 11:09 am

cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 5:57 am

Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:14 pm

youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:22 pm God will make a way. And if you get right with God, we can all meet in a more beautiful place and continue this discussion.

If bestowed upon you, use the intellect you may have been gifted with.

My intellect tells me never to trust environmental extremists who promote a cause to hide their alterior motives.

You should never trust extremists in any endeavor.

https://climatechangedispatch.com/5-mon ... l-warming/

you should not trust your heroes(that is a Brooklyn term) when it comes to feeding you nonsense about why they are into the climate change movement. Someday maybe even a naive person such as yourself will realize you are being played for a fool. I give you 5 gold stars to put on your forehead. The day you can explain to me in detail how you reverse the effects of climate change and make the world right again... I'm all ears there padre. Ditch your clown face Emoji and give me some details. My suggestion to you is be a good steward of our planet. If you believe there is a God then trust the fate of planet earth is in Gods hands. Your heroes in the movement are nothing more than 21st centuries grifters. They don't give a f**k about saving the planet. They want to get rich scaring people about what they think will happen 50 years from now. My opinion has not and will never change. A person that believes they can predict anything 50 years into the future with any knowledge is either lying or an idiot. Even if you have a prestigious PhD from a major university. Did Nostradamus have a PhD? I don't know.