old salt wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:08 pm
]Because it had nothing to do with us withdrawing. By financing Iranian adventurism, it increased the reason's we'd stay.
1. Iran supported terrorism before the JCPOA
2. Iran supported terrorism after the JCPOA
3. Iran supported and supports terrorism after the JCPOA was dropped.
And from this, you conclude that the JCPOA caused Iran's terrorism.
Neat.
BTW, you told us years ago that getting Iran to sign off on... no nuke program, no ballistic program, and to not support terrorism was easy...and that Obama and Kerry just suck. So how's your Trumpy doing? How come he didn't get this deal you thought was so easy to get?
old salt wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:08 pm
The sanctions are to get Iran to knock off the proxy wars & come back to the table to enter a verifiable denuc agreement
They are , huh? How's that workin' out for you? Gonna cave any day now, right?
And what's your plan if a Civil War starts? Then what? Do you even care?
And they're done with the nuke deal as of this week. You have a brilliant answer for that? Because you think them getting a nuke is no big deal, right? The JCPOA was a pointless...what did you call it?....Oh yeah.... "a fig leaf". So a nuclear armed Iran is just no big deal. Top shelf thinking right there.
old salt wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:08 pm
Right. The other signees will hold Iran accountable
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There it is. You think the US has to do it.
And yet your sales pitch is we're leaving the Middle East, right?
You can't keep your own nonsense theories straight.
old salt wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:50 pm
You keep saying that - thinking it makes you sound smart. You're just looking at numbers. The nature of the forces signals our intentions.
The nature of the combat has changed here in 2019. So yep, they're changing what are assets are. That has NOTHING to do with the idea of retreat from this region.
Tell you what, though. This isn't the old forum, so we can wager. If you're right, and I'm such an idiot, how'd you like to make an easy $10K off of "a fan"? I'm wagering we'll still have bases and troops all over the Middle East next year. You in? Should be the easiest money you ever made, right? Trump is...how did you put it.....covering a retreat, right?
old salt wrote: ↑Sun Jan 05, 2020 7:08 pm
We still have allies & interests in the region (they're just not in Iraq & Syria), AND he's serious about Iran not getting nucs & he knows that JCPOA was an ineffective fig leaf.
There it is again. Maybe you should read that sentence out loud and in front of a mirror. What in that sentence would signal to anyone that we're leaving the Middle East?