a fan wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:29 pm
tech37 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:55 pm
a fan wrote: ↑Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:45 pm
You've never said what the big picture goal is. Not once. I'd bet we have the same big picture goal.
Bliss a fan.. sheer bliss
Another time, watching Cuse/ND
Cool. Enjoy the game!
Enjoy? Geez, no Dome Cooking from the refs last night. At buzzer SU frosh guard gets fouled on three point make to put game within one, but no call from refs to send him to line (he's leading nation in free throw percentage too)...ouch. Actually despite the outcome, it was a great game and I did enjoy it
So by big picture I mean we disagree from the start re what should have happened re Iran when Trump was elected. I agree with the decision to end JCPOA and you obviously didn't/don't. No matter how much we discuss the details, it won't matter...I have my opinion and you yours. In my mind it makes perfect sense to "bail" (as you put it) when the a fan vortex forms and I get sucked in. What's the point?
It doesn't always happen, but on this issue it sure does.
That said, let me state my position one last time on why it was correct to put an end to JCPOA. I understand your position/opinion but simply disagree.
JCPOA did not include a mandate that Iran end terrorist activities across the ME. JCPOA did not address the ICBM program (the F'ing nuc delivery system after all!). And, JCPOA did not allow for inspections of military sites where, it doesn't take much imagination to figure out, they were hiding stuff actually noncompliant with JCPOA. That's IMO.
Here's another "big picture" disagreement... you say,
but it kept them from having a nuc weapon!... and I say it only slowed them down. I believe they never stopped working on it, and why the military sites were off limits to inspectors. I've posted articles in past which discussed evidence of their cheating during JCPOA, before Trump ended it.
The other red herring position is...those who say,
but Iran was complying with the agreement! That is not the point... the point is that the things that were not addressed, not part of JCPOA, made it a horrible agreement on our part in the first place.
My other consistent position, which goes way back is, I believe the best case scenario re Iran would be to see the Mullahs overthrown from within. I've posted numerous articles over the years dealing with uprisings when they happened. I also was quite critical of Obama when he did nothing to help the uprising in 2009, (due to visions of JCPOA in his head I suppose).
Now a fan, I've never stated that the regime
would be internally overthrown, just that I optimistically hoped it would. Capisce?
So a fan, I hope we don't need to discuss this again because we just don't see eye-to-eye on the basic issue. And that's OK