I'm not a teacher apologist by any stretch.
But your jobs aren't your life. If you want to control peoples lives outside their 40 hrs, write it into the contract, make conditions of employment, and pay accordingly.
IMO, this isn't on the teachers. Teachers are given vacation days via their contract. Let 'em use them (and their weekends) however they want.
It's on the school system and union to ensure the teachers are healthy-ish/following protocols while in the building. It's the school and union's job to ensure they are staffed. If the schools/unions can't put on a safe show, shut it down.
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Not really. Foods have nationalities, dogs, and even other viruses are named after locations and given nationalities.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:44 amOr because viruses don’t have nationalities therefore there’s another meaning and politicization of a deadly disease which only stupid people would do.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:28 am Be careful. You are treading awfully close- Viruses shouldn’t be described as “Chinese” lest you want to get your hand slapped…
It's may not be your preferred practice, or preferred by those who are easily offended, but it's quite common for much of the world.
But if it is something that you would like to personally control in your life, to make a difference, by all means, go ahead.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Given names doesn’t mean they are inherent to their existence. You’re also mixing cultures and borders without acknowledging the difference. Makes the whole argument kind of valueless.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:02 amNot really. Foods have nationalities, dogs, and even other viruses are named after locations and given nationalities.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:44 amOr because viruses don’t have nationalities therefore there’s another meaning and politicization of a deadly disease which only stupid people would do.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:28 am Be careful. You are treading awfully close- Viruses shouldn’t be described as “Chinese” lest you want to get your hand slapped…
It's may not be your preferred practice, or preferred by those who are easily offended, but it's quite common for much of the world.
But if it is something that you would like to personally control in your life, to make a difference, by all means, go ahead.
Being named after isn’t the same as having the essence of. And if you believe this was manufactured then it’s really dumb to behave that way but go ahead. I’m sure you think Chinese food here is the same as in China and that my Lhasa also look exactly like the ones in the mountains of Asia...
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
COVID-19 could have easily been called Wuhan virus. But given the political climate, that too would have been too charged. In order to focus on the task at hand, the generic COVID-19 was a good call. I suppose Kramer favors calling aids the African virus.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:20 amGiven names doesn’t mean they are inherent to their existence. You’re also mixing cultures and borders without acknowledging the difference. Makes the whole argument kind of valueless.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:02 amNot really. Foods have nationalities, dogs, and even other viruses are named after locations and given nationalities.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:44 amOr because viruses don’t have nationalities therefore there’s another meaning and politicization of a deadly disease which only stupid people would do.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:28 am Be careful. You are treading awfully close- Viruses shouldn’t be described as “Chinese” lest you want to get your hand slapped…
It's may not be your preferred practice, or preferred by those who are easily offended, but it's quite common for much of the world.
But if it is something that you would like to personally control in your life, to make a difference, by all means, go ahead.
Being named after isn’t the same as having the essence of. And if you believe this was manufactured then it’s really dumb to behave that way but go ahead.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
What is the issue with Covid 19 exactly?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:26 amCOVID-19 could have easily been called Wuhan virus. But given the political climate, that too would have been too charged. In order to focus on the task at hand, the generic COVID-19 was a good call. I suppose Kramer favors calling aids the African virus.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:20 amGiven names doesn’t mean they are inherent to their existence. You’re also mixing cultures and borders without acknowledging the difference. Makes the whole argument kind of valueless.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:02 amNot really. Foods have nationalities, dogs, and even other viruses are named after locations and given nationalities.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:44 amOr because viruses don’t have nationalities therefore there’s another meaning and politicization of a deadly disease which only stupid people would do.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:28 am Be careful. You are treading awfully close- Viruses shouldn’t be described as “Chinese” lest you want to get your hand slapped…
It's may not be your preferred practice, or preferred by those who are easily offended, but it's quite common for much of the world.
But if it is something that you would like to personally control in your life, to make a difference, by all means, go ahead.
Being named after isn’t the same as having the essence of. And if you believe this was manufactured then it’s really dumb to behave that way but go ahead.
I was thinking the same thing since it’s a scientific fact that tribal folks were doing monkeys....
Naming something is inorganic. The virus may have been manufactured but it’s existence is organic now. We know what time it is with some folks who want to hide their weaknesses and deficiencies. Transparency isn’t always the preferred approach.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Covid-19 is fine. The blame game is strong here.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:28 amWhat is the issue with Covid 19 exactly?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:26 amCOVID-19 could have easily been called Wuhan virus. But given the political climate, that too would have been too charged. In order to focus on the task at hand, the generic COVID-19 was a good call. I suppose Kramer favors calling aids the African virus.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:20 amGiven names doesn’t mean they are inherent to their existence. You’re also mixing cultures and borders without acknowledging the difference. Makes the whole argument kind of valueless.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:02 amNot really. Foods have nationalities, dogs, and even other viruses are named after locations and given nationalities.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:44 amOr because viruses don’t have nationalities therefore there’s another meaning and politicization of a deadly disease which only stupid people would do.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:28 am Be careful. You are treading awfully close- Viruses shouldn’t be described as “Chinese” lest you want to get your hand slapped…
It's may not be your preferred practice, or preferred by those who are easily offended, but it's quite common for much of the world.
But if it is something that you would like to personally control in your life, to make a difference, by all means, go ahead.
Being named after isn’t the same as having the essence of. And if you believe this was manufactured then it’s really dumb to behave that way but go ahead.
I was thinking the same thing since it’s a scientific fact that tribal folks were doing monkeys....
Naming something is inorganic. The virus may have been manufactured but it’s existence is organic now. We know what time it is with some folks who want to hide their weaknesses and deficiencies. Transparency isn’t always the preferred approach.
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Which I don’t get. Spend too much time blaming myself for things impacting my life if anything not pointing fingers at others.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:33 amCovid-19 is fine. The blame game is strong here.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:28 amWhat is the issue with Covid 19 exactly?Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:26 amCOVID-19 could have easily been called Wuhan virus. But given the political climate, that too would have been too charged. In order to focus on the task at hand, the generic COVID-19 was a good call. I suppose Kramer favors calling aids the African virus.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:20 amGiven names doesn’t mean they are inherent to their existence. You’re also mixing cultures and borders without acknowledging the difference. Makes the whole argument kind of valueless.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:02 amNot really. Foods have nationalities, dogs, and even other viruses are named after locations and given nationalities.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:44 amOr because viruses don’t have nationalities therefore there’s another meaning and politicization of a deadly disease which only stupid people would do.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:28 am Be careful. You are treading awfully close- Viruses shouldn’t be described as “Chinese” lest you want to get your hand slapped…
It's may not be your preferred practice, or preferred by those who are easily offended, but it's quite common for much of the world.
But if it is something that you would like to personally control in your life, to make a difference, by all means, go ahead.
Being named after isn’t the same as having the essence of. And if you believe this was manufactured then it’s really dumb to behave that way but go ahead.
I was thinking the same thing since it’s a scientific fact that tribal folks were doing monkeys....
Naming something is inorganic. The virus may have been manufactured but it’s existence is organic now. We know what time it is with some folks who want to hide their weaknesses and deficiencies. Transparency isn’t always the preferred approach.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Shut down school? Do you have school aged kids while going through this? So no jobs have any different responsibility to society of any kind or just teachers? I don’t know the answer but it seems a bit reckless knowing that it’s ramping up based on what I already noted about our school specifically and then look at UGAs football team. School started early Aug here. If anything happens I think there should be no schoolkramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:51 am I'm not a teacher apologist by any stretch.
But your jobs aren't your life. If you want to control peoples lives outside their 40 hrs, write it into the contract, make conditions of employment, and pay accordingly.
IMO, this isn't on the teachers. Teachers are given vacation days via their contract. Let 'em use them (and their weekends) however they want.
It's on the school system and union to ensure the teachers are healthy-ish/following protocols while in the building. It's the school and union's job to ensure they are staffed. If the schools/unions can't put on a safe show, shut it down.
support for said teacher-shes ok her own. It’s her life but if she screws it up by choosing her personal stuff over her job then she gets no benefits, no platitudes, no applause for being an educator. It’s just a paycheck job, nothing more or nothing less under your view. Maybe that’s ok but imagine the teachers screaming for the platitudes and how they’re treated poorly because they do such social justice by teaching children. Cant have it both ways.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Strawman.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:26 amCOVID-19 could have easily been called Wuhan virus. But given the political climate, that too would have been too charged. In order to focus on the task at hand, the generic COVID-19 was a good call. I suppose Kramer favors calling aids the African virus.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:20 amGiven names doesn’t mean they are inherent to their existence. You’re also mixing cultures and borders without acknowledging the difference. Makes the whole argument kind of valueless.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:02 amNot really. Foods have nationalities, dogs, and even other viruses are named after locations and given nationalities.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:44 amOr because viruses don’t have nationalities therefore there’s another meaning and politicization of a deadly disease which only stupid people would do.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:28 am Be careful. You are treading awfully close- Viruses shouldn’t be described as “Chinese” lest you want to get your hand slapped…
It's may not be your preferred practice, or preferred by those who are easily offended, but it's quite common for much of the world.
But if it is something that you would like to personally control in your life, to make a difference, by all means, go ahead.
Being named after isn’t the same as having the essence of. And if you believe this was manufactured then it’s really dumb to behave that way but go ahead.
Correct and truthful adjectives aren't always preferred or perfect. But it doesn't make them wrong.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Adjective means unnecessary and chosen by the user to convey something beyond the literal.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:30 pmStrawman.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:26 amCOVID-19 could have easily been called Wuhan virus. But given the political climate, that too would have been too charged. In order to focus on the task at hand, the generic COVID-19 was a good call. I suppose Kramer favors calling aids the African virus.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:20 amGiven names doesn’t mean they are inherent to their existence. You’re also mixing cultures and borders without acknowledging the difference. Makes the whole argument kind of valueless.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:02 amNot really. Foods have nationalities, dogs, and even other viruses are named after locations and given nationalities.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:44 amOr because viruses don’t have nationalities therefore there’s another meaning and politicization of a deadly disease which only stupid people would do.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:28 am Be careful. You are treading awfully close- Viruses shouldn’t be described as “Chinese” lest you want to get your hand slapped…
It's may not be your preferred practice, or preferred by those who are easily offended, but it's quite common for much of the world.
But if it is something that you would like to personally control in your life, to make a difference, by all means, go ahead.
Being named after isn’t the same as having the essence of. And if you believe this was manufactured then it’s really dumb to behave that way but go ahead.
Correct and truthful adjectives aren't always preferred or perfect. But it doesn't make them wrong.
By definition used to modify a noun. The noun works on its own.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
No, shut down in-person learning if it's not safe or efficient.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:54 amShut down school? Do you have school aged kids while going through this? So no jobs have any different responsibility to society of any kind or just teachers? I don’t know the answer but it seems a bit reckless knowing that it’s ramping up based on what I already noted about our school specifically and then look at UGAs football team. School started early Aug here. If anything happens I think there should be no schoolkramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:51 am I'm not a teacher apologist by any stretch.
But your jobs aren't your life. If you want to control peoples lives outside their 40 hrs, write it into the contract, make conditions of employment, and pay accordingly.
IMO, this isn't on the teachers. Teachers are given vacation days via their contract. Let 'em use them (and their weekends) however they want.
It's on the school system and union to ensure the teachers are healthy-ish/following protocols while in the building. It's the school and union's job to ensure they are staffed. If the schools/unions can't put on a safe show, shut it down.
support for said teacher-shes ok her own. It’s her life but if she screws it up by choosing her personal stuff over her job then she gets no benefits, no platitudes, no applause for being an educator. It’s just a paycheck job, nothing more or nothing less under your view. Maybe that’s ok but imagine the teachers screaming for the platitudes and how they’re treated poorly because they do such social justice by teaching children. Cant have it both ways.
This is life under teachers unions. You likely can't legally penalize her. Want to have more control over that portion of their lives, write it into the next union contract. Want more leverage? It's gotta wait until next year. For the next teacher's contract, negotiate a vaccinated, vs unvaccinated, in-person and remote salary rates. Otherwise, no recourse. But lots of holier-than-thou teachers on Instabook.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
"Coronavirus" is general, not specific.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:32 pmAdjective means unnecessary and chosen by the user to convey something beyond the literal.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:30 pmStrawman.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:26 amCOVID-19 could have easily been called Wuhan virus. But given the political climate, that too would have been too charged. In order to focus on the task at hand, the generic COVID-19 was a good call. I suppose Kramer favors calling aids the African virus.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:20 amGiven names doesn’t mean they are inherent to their existence. You’re also mixing cultures and borders without acknowledging the difference. Makes the whole argument kind of valueless.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:02 amNot really. Foods have nationalities, dogs, and even other viruses are named after locations and given nationalities.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:44 amOr because viruses don’t have nationalities therefore there’s another meaning and politicization of a deadly disease which only stupid people would do.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:28 am Be careful. You are treading awfully close- Viruses shouldn’t be described as “Chinese” lest you want to get your hand slapped…
It's may not be your preferred practice, or preferred by those who are easily offended, but it's quite common for much of the world.
But if it is something that you would like to personally control in your life, to make a difference, by all means, go ahead.
Being named after isn’t the same as having the essence of. And if you believe this was manufactured then it’s really dumb to behave that way but go ahead.
Correct and truthful adjectives aren't always preferred or perfect. But it doesn't make them wrong.
By definition used to modify a noun. The noun works on its own.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
But it doesn’t make them right.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:30 pmStrawman.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:26 amCOVID-19 could have easily been called Wuhan virus. But given the political climate, that too would have been too charged. In order to focus on the task at hand, the generic COVID-19 was a good call. I suppose Kramer favors calling aids the African virus.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:20 amGiven names doesn’t mean they are inherent to their existence. You’re also mixing cultures and borders without acknowledging the difference. Makes the whole argument kind of valueless.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:02 amNot really. Foods have nationalities, dogs, and even other viruses are named after locations and given nationalities.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:44 amOr because viruses don’t have nationalities therefore there’s another meaning and politicization of a deadly disease which only stupid people would do.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:28 am Be careful. You are treading awfully close- Viruses shouldn’t be described as “Chinese” lest you want to get your hand slapped…
It's may not be your preferred practice, or preferred by those who are easily offended, but it's quite common for much of the world.
But if it is something that you would like to personally control in your life, to make a difference, by all means, go ahead.
Being named after isn’t the same as having the essence of. And if you believe this was manufactured then it’s really dumb to behave that way but go ahead.
Correct and truthful adjectives aren't always preferred or perfect. But it doesn't make them wrong.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Virtual learning is a disaster I can tell you from personal experience. You’re not thinking about the consequences of that making such a suggestion so easily.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:38 pmNo, shut down in-person learning if it's not safe or efficient.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:54 amShut down school? Do you have school aged kids while going through this? So no jobs have any different responsibility to society of any kind or just teachers? I don’t know the answer but it seems a bit reckless knowing that it’s ramping up based on what I already noted about our school specifically and then look at UGAs football team. School started early Aug here. If anything happens I think there should be no schoolkramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:51 am I'm not a teacher apologist by any stretch.
But your jobs aren't your life. If you want to control peoples lives outside their 40 hrs, write it into the contract, make conditions of employment, and pay accordingly.
IMO, this isn't on the teachers. Teachers are given vacation days via their contract. Let 'em use them (and their weekends) however they want.
It's on the school system and union to ensure the teachers are healthy-ish/following protocols while in the building. It's the school and union's job to ensure they are staffed. If the schools/unions can't put on a safe show, shut it down.
support for said teacher-shes ok her own. It’s her life but if she screws it up by choosing her personal stuff over her job then she gets no benefits, no platitudes, no applause for being an educator. It’s just a paycheck job, nothing more or nothing less under your view. Maybe that’s ok but imagine the teachers screaming for the platitudes and how they’re treated poorly because they do such social justice by teaching children. Cant have it both ways.
This is life under teachers unions. You likely can't legally penalize her. Want to have more control over that portion of their lives, write it into the next union contract. Want more leverage? It's gotta wait until next year. For the next teacher's contract, negotiate a vaccinated, vs unvaccinated, in-person and remote salary rates. Otherwise, no recourse. But lots of holier-than-thou teachers on Instabook.
I’m point of fact this situation allows extreme measures regardless of Union contract-thats a straw man. Biggie problem is the teachers have the principal by the short hairs over this incorrectly labeled segregation issue.
Turning this into a union issue is insane and lacks empathy for every family who has children in school. Or a completely lack of understanding.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Did you forget your proclivity to call it the wuhan virus?kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:38 pm"Coronavirus" is general, not specific.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:32 pmAdjective means unnecessary and chosen by the user to convey something beyond the literal.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:30 pmStrawman.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:26 amCOVID-19 could have easily been called Wuhan virus. But given the political climate, that too would have been too charged. In order to focus on the task at hand, the generic COVID-19 was a good call. I suppose Kramer favors calling aids the African virus.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:20 amGiven names doesn’t mean they are inherent to their existence. You’re also mixing cultures and borders without acknowledging the difference. Makes the whole argument kind of valueless.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:02 amNot really. Foods have nationalities, dogs, and even other viruses are named after locations and given nationalities.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:44 amOr because viruses don’t have nationalities therefore there’s another meaning and politicization of a deadly disease which only stupid people would do.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:28 am Be careful. You are treading awfully close- Viruses shouldn’t be described as “Chinese” lest you want to get your hand slapped…
It's may not be your preferred practice, or preferred by those who are easily offended, but it's quite common for much of the world.
But if it is something that you would like to personally control in your life, to make a difference, by all means, go ahead.
Being named after isn’t the same as having the essence of. And if you believe this was manufactured then it’s really dumb to behave that way but go ahead.
Correct and truthful adjectives aren't always preferred or perfect. But it doesn't make them wrong.
By definition used to modify a noun. The noun works on its own.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
It was the gay virus for quite awhile, sent by God to punish homosexuals.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:30 pmStrawman.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:26 amCOVID-19 could have easily been called Wuhan virus. But given the political climate, that too would have been too charged. In order to focus on the task at hand, the generic COVID-19 was a good call. I suppose Kramer favors calling aids the African virus.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:20 amGiven names doesn’t mean they are inherent to their existence. You’re also mixing cultures and borders without acknowledging the difference. Makes the whole argument kind of valueless.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:02 amNot really. Foods have nationalities, dogs, and even other viruses are named after locations and given nationalities.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:44 amOr because viruses don’t have nationalities therefore there’s another meaning and politicization of a deadly disease which only stupid people would do.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:28 am Be careful. You are treading awfully close- Viruses shouldn’t be described as “Chinese” lest you want to get your hand slapped…
It's may not be your preferred practice, or preferred by those who are easily offended, but it's quite common for much of the world.
But if it is something that you would like to personally control in your life, to make a difference, by all means, go ahead.
Being named after isn’t the same as having the essence of. And if you believe this was manufactured then it’s really dumb to behave that way but go ahead.
Correct and truthful adjectives aren't always preferred or perfect. But it doesn't make them wrong.
Fear and hate, bigotry.
Same thing was meant by those calling this virus “Chinesee”
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
It is "right" if it's correct and truthful in terms of accuracy. Writer has the discretion, even if the reader/listener doesn't think it's necessary.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:41 pmBut it doesn’t make them right.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:30 pmStrawman.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:26 amCOVID-19 could have easily been called Wuhan virus. But given the political climate, that too would have been too charged. In order to focus on the task at hand, the generic COVID-19 was a good call. I suppose Kramer favors calling aids the African virus.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:20 amGiven names doesn’t mean they are inherent to their existence. You’re also mixing cultures and borders without acknowledging the difference. Makes the whole argument kind of valueless.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:02 amNot really. Foods have nationalities, dogs, and even other viruses are named after locations and given nationalities.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:44 amOr because viruses don’t have nationalities therefore there’s another meaning and politicization of a deadly disease which only stupid people would do.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:28 am Be careful. You are treading awfully close- Viruses shouldn’t be described as “Chinese” lest you want to get your hand slapped…
It's may not be your preferred practice, or preferred by those who are easily offended, but it's quite common for much of the world.
But if it is something that you would like to personally control in your life, to make a difference, by all means, go ahead.
Being named after isn’t the same as having the essence of. And if you believe this was manufactured then it’s really dumb to behave that way but go ahead.
Correct and truthful adjectives aren't always preferred or perfect. But it doesn't make them wrong.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
I leaned more toward Chinese CoronaVirus the way the newspapers did in those first few months. Although Wuhan is the place where it was first noticed...so that would be an accurate take also.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:43 pmDid you forget your proclivity to call it the wuhan virus?kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:38 pm"Coronavirus" is general, not specific.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:32 pmAdjective means unnecessary and chosen by the user to convey something beyond the literal.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:30 pmStrawman.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:26 amCOVID-19 could have easily been called Wuhan virus. But given the political climate, that too would have been too charged. In order to focus on the task at hand, the generic COVID-19 was a good call. I suppose Kramer favors calling aids the African virus.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:20 amGiven names doesn’t mean they are inherent to their existence. You’re also mixing cultures and borders without acknowledging the difference. Makes the whole argument kind of valueless.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:02 amNot really. Foods have nationalities, dogs, and even other viruses are named after locations and given nationalities.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:44 amOr because viruses don’t have nationalities therefore there’s another meaning and politicization of a deadly disease which only stupid people would do.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:28 am Be careful. You are treading awfully close- Viruses shouldn’t be described as “Chinese” lest you want to get your hand slapped…
It's may not be your preferred practice, or preferred by those who are easily offended, but it's quite common for much of the world.
But if it is something that you would like to personally control in your life, to make a difference, by all means, go ahead.
Being named after isn’t the same as having the essence of. And if you believe this was manufactured then it’s really dumb to behave that way but go ahead.
Correct and truthful adjectives aren't always preferred or perfect. But it doesn't make them wrong.
By definition used to modify a noun. The noun works on its own.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
No need to use Chinese. It’s inefficient to say and therefore should be stopped like in person learning by your same logic. If you care about consistency of thought at all.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:48 pmI leaned more toward Chinese CoronaVirus the way the newspapers did in those first few months. Although Wuhan is the place where it was first noticed...so that would be an accurate take also.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:43 pmDid you forget your proclivity to call it the wuhan virus?kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:38 pm"Coronavirus" is general, not specific.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:32 pmAdjective means unnecessary and chosen by the user to convey something beyond the literal.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:30 pmStrawman.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:26 amCOVID-19 could have easily been called Wuhan virus. But given the political climate, that too would have been too charged. In order to focus on the task at hand, the generic COVID-19 was a good call. I suppose Kramer favors calling aids the African virus.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:20 amGiven names doesn’t mean they are inherent to their existence. You’re also mixing cultures and borders without acknowledging the difference. Makes the whole argument kind of valueless.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:02 amNot really. Foods have nationalities, dogs, and even other viruses are named after locations and given nationalities.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:44 amOr because viruses don’t have nationalities therefore there’s another meaning and politicization of a deadly disease which only stupid people would do.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:28 am Be careful. You are treading awfully close- Viruses shouldn’t be described as “Chinese” lest you want to get your hand slapped…
It's may not be your preferred practice, or preferred by those who are easily offended, but it's quite common for much of the world.
But if it is something that you would like to personally control in your life, to make a difference, by all means, go ahead.
Being named after isn’t the same as having the essence of. And if you believe this was manufactured then it’s really dumb to behave that way but go ahead.
Correct and truthful adjectives aren't always preferred or perfect. But it doesn't make them wrong.
By definition used to modify a noun. The noun works on its own.
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Absolutely. “Chinese virus” would not have any precedent for naming a novel virus. It wouldn’t be truthful, slick.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:47 pmIt is "right" if it's correct and truthful in terms of accuracy. Writer has the discretion, even if the reader/listener doesn't think it's necessary.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:41 pmBut it doesn’t make them right.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:30 pmStrawman.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:26 amCOVID-19 could have easily been called Wuhan virus. But given the political climate, that too would have been too charged. In order to focus on the task at hand, the generic COVID-19 was a good call. I suppose Kramer favors calling aids the African virus.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:20 amGiven names doesn’t mean they are inherent to their existence. You’re also mixing cultures and borders without acknowledging the difference. Makes the whole argument kind of valueless.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:02 amNot really. Foods have nationalities, dogs, and even other viruses are named after locations and given nationalities.Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:44 amOr because viruses don’t have nationalities therefore there’s another meaning and politicization of a deadly disease which only stupid people would do.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:28 am Be careful. You are treading awfully close- Viruses shouldn’t be described as “Chinese” lest you want to get your hand slapped…
It's may not be your preferred practice, or preferred by those who are easily offended, but it's quite common for much of the world.
But if it is something that you would like to personally control in your life, to make a difference, by all means, go ahead.
Being named after isn’t the same as having the essence of. And if you believe this was manufactured then it’s really dumb to behave that way but go ahead.
Correct and truthful adjectives aren't always preferred or perfect. But it doesn't make them wrong.
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